Please Stop-and-Frisk Us!
- A surge in New York City murders — including four people slain in just five bloody hours as the weekend began — has grieving family members begging Mayor de Blasio to bring back the NYPD’s right to search for guns.
“We need stop-and-frisk,” Stacey Calhoun, the devastated uncle of one of the four fatalities, said Saturday afternoon, tears filling his eyes over the nephew he had just lost.
Jahhad Marshall — a charismatic 23-year-old with a promising future as a chef — had died of a stray bullet to his back early that morning outside the Queensbridge Houses in Long Island City, police said.
“Somebody has to put their foot down,” the anguished uncle said.
“A lot of people would agree with stop-and-frisk if it’s for the safety among us,” he said.
Really? So you're willing to have the police conduct wholesale violations of Civil Rights in the name of taking illegal guns off the street and save the lives of innocents?
- “It’s scary how many guns are out here now,” said a resident of the Brownsville project, who gave her name as Ann and her age as 72.
“They shouldn’t just stop and frisk any of our young black men — but they need to do something about these guns,” she said.
Well Ann, if we were NYPD, we'd tell you "too damn bad." It looks like you'll be going to a lot of funerals in the foreseeable future.
And do you know why? Because you perpetuate the stereotype that NYPD was stopping young black men indiscriminately and tossing them up against the walls and going through their persons violating all sorts of laws, procedures and Civil Rights. And nothing is further from the truth.
NYPD operated in a very narrow legal window involving reasonable articulable suspicion and probable cause - as do the vast majority of Departments. That's not to say there aren't officers who choose to operate outside of the boundaries set by the Law and the Courts, but that is a miniscule percentage. But hey, Al and Jesse and Eric and BO say that police are the problem and minorities are being picked on and the deck is stacked against people and blah blah blah. It's all bullshit. No one legit study or survey indicates anything like that. But the perpetual victims need someone to blame for their inadequacies and failures as non-functional societal castoffs.
And do you know why? Because you perpetuate the stereotype that NYPD was stopping young black men indiscriminately and tossing them up against the walls and going through their persons violating all sorts of laws, procedures and Civil Rights. And nothing is further from the truth.
NYPD operated in a very narrow legal window involving reasonable articulable suspicion and probable cause - as do the vast majority of Departments. That's not to say there aren't officers who choose to operate outside of the boundaries set by the Law and the Courts, but that is a miniscule percentage. But hey, Al and Jesse and Eric and BO say that police are the problem and minorities are being picked on and the deck is stacked against people and blah blah blah. It's all bullshit. No one legit study or survey indicates anything like that. But the perpetual victims need someone to blame for their inadequacies and failures as non-functional societal castoffs.
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Dear SCC,
Might want to consider linking to this article from The Baltimore Sun. Baltimore ended the month with 43 homicides, the most in 40 years. And it's not even summer yet!
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-shootings-20150531-story.html
Mr. SHARPTON RESPONSE:Crick, CRICK!!!
Hate to say it, but I remember many years ago( the 70s) stop and frisk, searching of cars, stopping people walking down an alley and going thru them, and searching project apartments yielded results, found many guns, reduced violence for awhile. People used to be searched, going through metal detectors going into and out of project buildings. A decision needs to be made. Won't be a popular one.
Too bad SCC your right-on-statements here can not be preached. The choir is out and so are the preachers.
The problem is the refusal of the City to put what they owe in the pension. When they follow the law I will enforce the law.
"Stop-and-frisk", as might be implied by the phrase, is somewhat of a repugnant concept. I don't like that this sort of thing has to be done. BUT, I just have this sneaking suspicion that the police aren't implementing it willy-nilly, and that the scumbags who are "stopped-and-frisked" probably aren't on their way to or from choir practice. There are fine lines in a society that at once prides itself on the freedoms it was established under, and at the same time, has a problem with a certain subset of its population, unidentifiable by any particular characteristics, of course that insists on acting like savages. Similarly, I don't like huge jails that are filled with our young'uns. One answer is to stop putting the kiddies in jail, the other is for the kiddies to stop acting like criminals. Stop-and-frisk and massive jails shouldn't have to exist, but neither should the activities that necessitate them.
Ha, F'in Ha
Better suck it up protestors, you're in for a rough ride
You guys think the agg batt/homicide rate is high now? Just wait, you ain't seen nuthin yet!
The problem with NYC Stop & Frisk was simple: DEMOCRATS!
They created the problem. Now look where they've gone! One of those NYC Dems came here as Superintendent. His cohort went to Spokane. Both are of the dirty NYC mentality of playing The Crime Numbers Game.
It's corrupt as bringing Holder to The City as an Inspector General type of Rahm low-life crony.
The same folks that complain about stop and frisk, are the same ones usually involved in gun violence. Never hear of all this gun violence in Norwood Park, Edison Park, or Forest Glen.
Oh Dear. The Genie of Crime + Centrifugal Forces of Racial Animus are easier loosed then bottled back up...
All my relatives have been told, do not go to the Chicago Fest or any of the concerts on the lake front. Other out of towner relatives have been told do not come to Chicago, its to fucken dangerous. My uncle is a NYPD Detective and he's saying the same thing, do not come to New York it's to dangerous. Funny, the shitheads get what their leaders are calling for and now you can hear them starting to sing another tune.
Some people have just had enough.
All you people who voted for Obama, de Blasio, and all these other Democrats quit complaining, you got what you voted for. Now enjoy.
How about we get all the cars off the streets since some people drive under the influence. It's scary the number of cars and trucks out there!!!
After all think of the children.
If it saves just one child's life than isn't it worth it?
BAN CARS/TRUCKS
So let me get this straight, people (folks) of "color" have the "PERCEPTION"( their word not mine even BHO said it) that the mostly white Police are racist bigoted harrassing abusers of power just waiting to hunt down & kill them...... The Police are accused of "stereotyping" folks (people) in their communities based "solely" on their color....... Unfortunately for them the "FACTS" don't back up the claims.......
They scream & are outraged by their "perceived" victimhood, YET they have no problem whatsoever "stereotyping" ALL POLICE
as evil civil rights violators! Talk about HYPOCRISY !!!!!
The sad part is, the "victims" strings are being masterfully pulled by their masters in the "Grievance Industry", with the liberal media carrying their water......
Oh and the definition of "Racist" is ONLY applied to white people (not many folks). Whites can be targeted based solely on the color of their skin by people of color. It's explained away as they are just "venting" their "frustrations" at the "perceived" wrongs done to them......
Lack of personal accountability has led us to where we are.......
Reactive only...I'm really tired of all the "handsup don't shoot" bullshit. The big cities falling apart because of liberal BS and idiots crying and whining about the guns killing people.....
Not sticking my neck out anymore....for what....a lawsuit is nothing compared to Baltimore.....
OK I feel.much better now. Thank you
Stop and frisk? Not a chance. Stop and have your head examined instead if you ever get the urge to stop someone not actively pulling the trigger on the street. Tell them to have a nice day and earn another day of pension credit. Every day not on the front page of a newspaper is a good day.
Anonymous said...
You guys think the agg batt/homicide rate is high now? Just wait, you ain't seen nuthin yet!
6/01/2015 05:55:00 AM
As a retired guy if I ever have to use deadly force in defense of my life or my family I no longer have to follow the department rules. No statement, no piss test etc. They will hear only "I invoke my right to speak to an attorney prior to any questioning."
So funny to see people running back to the cops after casting them aside.
I see a repeat of 1968 in the offing here. The presidential candidate who walks the walk on law and order will have a big year.
Anonymous said...
All my relatives have been told, do not go to the Chicago Fest or any of the concerts on the lake front. Other out of towner relatives have been told do not come to Chicago, its to fucken dangerous. My uncle is a NYPD Detective and he's saying the same thing, do not come to New York it's to dangerous. Funny, the shitheads get what their leaders are calling for and now you can hear them starting to sing another tune.
6/01/2015 07:20:00 AM
They have that huge country fest this year lets hope the people that attend can be protected! Got on the job in 1986, street stops were a fact of proper policing, police have an inert ability to sense trouble, and how many weapons have been recovered, how many shootings stopped, how many innocents spared? We went out "Hunting" for the bad guys and or girls, recovered many weapons,dope, warrants were served during a street stop name check! Will policing be put in the history books?
Remember also the CPS system as part of the Burge lie will be forced to implement the teaching of what the lie that John Burge did to 9th and 10th grade students! Will the teachers be required (forced) to teach respect for police officers also? You know like it a police officers tells you to do something you "Just do it!" oh you need examples ok:
* Police are behind you traffic and activate emergency equipment you pull over, put your hand on the steering wheel, passengers also comply and keep hands visible, officer asks you for license,registration,insurance you hand it to officer.
* You invite police to your home by calling us at our personal number 911, you don't answer the door and say "what the F**K do you want!" is that how you treat invited guests? Then you comply with what the police tell you!
* Never ever fight with police you will always lose, never ever point a weapon at police, or ever attempt to disarm an officer bad results will happen guaranteed!
* More can be added feel free to add your own!
Even more people will stop coming in to the city along with their wallets. Chicago residents will do their best to get out when crime just continues to spiral upwards in even the old "good" areas. Good luck people. Buckle up and be prepared to protect yourself since coppers will not be doing it anymore in fear of losing all they have worked for.
We go through the ones that need going through, bottom line. Mr. Out on the slow drive past the dope spot, Mr. Standing on the corner representing my gang, Mr. Aggressive panhandler, Mr. In the alley nowhere near where I live with no explanation, Mr. Throwing up gang signs.
Now you get the attention seekers telling anyone who will listen: "I've been profiled!!!". Michelle Obama, Eric Holder and Oprah crying about how they get a second look. People go with what they know. You don't want the second look? Educate your friends. Stop shooting each other. Stop rioting. Stop stealing. Stop robbing. You have a voice. Stop stirring the pot and be part of a solution.
Google that guy at Zo Nation. Here is a guy that is trying to educate, not tell his audience to stay in the victim mentality and embrace it, it's not your fault because it really is.
It is going to be a very rough summer for the police across the country. Yes there will be blood. Yes some of us will be hurt and some killed. The pendulum has swung far to the left and will take some time to swing back. I see the national guard being utilized in several states before the cold weather calms the masses. These are trying times. I am glad to be retired and yes I carry everywhere to protect myself and my family.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
You guys think the agg batt/homicide rate is high now? Just wait, you ain't seen nuthin yet!
6/01/2015 05:55:00 AM
As a retired guy if I ever have to use deadly force in defense of my life or my family I no longer have to follow the department rules. No statement, no piss test etc. They will hear only "I invoke my right to speak to an attorney prior to any questioning."
6/01/2015 10:36:00 AM
Hear Hear!
Shoot.
Scoot.
Don't say shit
to anyone but your lawyer.
Let the city come find YOU!
Don't voluntarily go to THEM.
It's a crying fucking shame when the good
and decent upright people have more to
fear from the justice system than criminal
shitheads.
"Please stop and frisk us!"
Nuh-Uhhh...
Ain't finna hap'n.
Y'all sent everybody else through a whole bunch of changes
to make The Police leave you alone.
Now you're whining because the urban death cultists are all
up in your ass like cheap toilet paper as you try to get in your
door with the three cans for a dollar third rate tuna, a small
jar of sweet relish and the last passable onion?
When "It" is clawing and screeching vile invectives
at the door you JUST barely locked, you'll have to
wonder if going back out for the mayo you forgot
will be worth the trip...
"Please stop and frisk us!"
Nuh-Uhhh...
Ain't finna hap'n.
Y'all sent the rest of everybody else through a whole bunch of changes
to make The Police leave you alone.
Now you're whining because the urban death cultists are all
up in your ass like cheap toilet paper as you try to get in your
door with the three cans for a dollar third rate tuna, a small
jar of sweet relish and the last passable onion?
When "It" is clawing and screeching vile invectives
at the door you JUST barely locked, you'll have to
wonder if going back out for the mayo you forgot
will be worth the trip...
Remember the she-ass that was braying at a homicide
scene about a couple weeks ago?
"The black community needs to run CPD!"
We'll take that as "A certain segment of the black
community (guess which one) needs to run CPD."
That segment already does...
Now what?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is going to be a very rough summer for the police across the country. Yes there will be blood. Yes some of us will be hurt and some killed. The pendulum has swung far to the left and will take some time to swing back. I see the national guard being utilized in several states before the cold weather calms the masses. These are trying times. I am glad to be retired and yes I carry everywhere to protect myself and my family.
6/01/2015 06:17:00 PM
Agreed may almighty God protect police everywhere from the savage mayhem brought on the innocent due to incompetent elected leaders who speak with forked tongue! Back each other up, listening to zone 6 why are you rushing to calls risking your lives more, unless a 10-1 or officers assistance calls don't rush not worth getting hurt killed for people that would in a second sue you get you indicted why bother?
As a retired guy if I ever have to use deadly force in defense of my life or my family I no longer have to follow the department rules. No statement, no piss test etc. They will hear only "I invoke my right to speak to an attorney prior to any questioning."
6/01/2015 10:36:00 AM
amen, brother....I will pray that the day I have to kill some s.o.b. who threatens me or my family never comes, but....somewhere, somehow, some day...
Worked VRI in engle wood the other day strange the residents wanted us to stay close offering us water and pop, think maybe they are scared of the animals among them? No did not accept anything but found it odd!
"Google that guy at Zo Nation. Here is a guy that is trying to educate, not tell his audience to stay in the victim mentality and embrace it, it's not your fault because it really is."
His name is Alfonzo Rachel.Here's a good example of his straight talk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kry_VfFSh4
Anonymous said...
As a retired guy if I ever have to use deadly force in defense of my life or my family I no longer have to follow the department rules. No statement, no piss test etc. They will hear only "I invoke my right to speak to an attorney prior to any questioning."
6/01/2015 10:36:00 AM
amen, brother....I will pray that the day I have to kill some s.o.b. who threatens me or my family never comes, but....somewhere, somehow, some day...
6/02/2015 08:45:00 AM
To add to that don't think for a minute (Have the NRA insurance plan great plan great price) I will not defend myself or my family or an innocent I know! Retiring end of year will always be ready if i am a victim I will go down blazing promise you that! We have concealed carry why citizens don't take lessons and obtain permit and carry I don't know, if not for you do it for those you love! It's not getting any safer!
Worked VRI in engle wood the other day strange the residents wanted us to stay close offering us water and pop, think maybe they are scared of the animals among them? No did not accept anything but found it odd!
6/02/2015 01:50:00 PM
There are good people in englewood who see what's happening and what's going on. Not all of the population is as lost or mindless followers as the media and politicians have you believe. We've been in englewood for the past month or so and l noticed a lot more young kids saying hi and waving and polite citizens. Don't get me wrong they still have their fair share of jag offs and thugs. My point, the anti police sentiment has always been there (everywhere) but it's not as bad in these neighborhoods as the media is making it out to be. The media and politicians have their own agenda and are trying their damndest to push it. Good people know it's bullshit.
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