The Death of the Street Stop
Should this pass, why would anyone perform a street stop again?
- Illinois Senate Bill 1304 which passed the House on 28 May 2015 and is
back in the Senate to vote on the House amendments thereto. This Bill
has a real nice addition which is the equivalent of passing out a Ghetto
Lotto Ticket at each police encounter.
(b) Upon completion of any stop under subsection (a) involving a frisk or search, and unless impractical, impossible, or under exigent circumstances, the officer shall provide the person with a stop receipt which provides the reason for the stop and contains the officer's name and badge number.
So you hand them a "receipt" with your name and star, redeemable for a payout from the city once they get three or four witnesses to claim you violated their rights and used naughty language and spoke ill of their parentage. Brilliant.
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:31 AM
178 Comments:
Welcome to the end of policing, if this passes. It's bad enough, the citizens have no idea how bad it would get
I am retired. And with the current political climate if you can, join me.
Wont need no cameras, wont be nothing to record. No one will be doing any police work at all.
"...the officer shall provide the person with a stop receipt which provides the reason for the stop and contains the officer's name and badge number...."
..as well as a pickle-in-a-bag, a chilled purple drank, and a voucher for CTA/taxi/party bus transportation back home, to cover a radius including Ford Heights, Robbins, Maywood, and Gary, Indiana.
SCC you missed the other part of that bullshit knee jerk reactive legislation them morons also outlawed choke holds and now it appears ISP and or the sheriffs department will be doing the investigations on police involved fatal shootings. The one good thing out of this as a CPD detective I guess I no longer have to worry about the Lovey & Lovey cover up lawsuit looks like ISP and Sheriff Dart will be getting them now.
Once again , if you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about .
The department has your back . Now get out there and put people on the hood .
You guys amaze me, 14 comments regarding the BS pension legislation, we are doomed
Lmafao..........
This whole country has become a joke.
Should this pick get a receipt too?
http://patch.com/illinois/palos/palos-park-man-shot-death-0
Arrest Made in Palos Park Man's Shooting DeathThe 25-year-old was killed and robbed of his cell phone on Chicago's North Side at about 2 a.m. A Chicago man has been charged with murder.
I wouldnt stop anybody unless they are openly carrying a fucking rocket launcher or AK-47 and even then........I'd probably look the other way. These filthy fucking politicians and media types want this so just give it to them. Makes my life and job a whole lot easier. I'm not gonna stop anyone!!!!!
Since we are going to start handing out receipts, let's start charging for all the B.S calls we respond too! Hopefully we will get department issued swipe attachments and start charging on link cards! Our pension will be funded with the quickness...
The whole idea is that stops will be few and far between. It upsets the gentle savages in the ghettos to be stopped and frisked.
This will be the demise of what's left of the morale if passed...
To the average citizen, reading this says - cops are not going to be doing ANY pro-active police work, SO you better be prepared for more crime on the streets.
That translates to - you better be packing ALL the time you leave the house for any "encounters" you might have at the gas station, the store, or just parking your car.
You are on your own as far as safety.
The "average" citizen better start buying some guns and going to the range to practice, so they can "carry" effectively in order to compensate for the lack of pro-active policing.
No Problem. Looks like everyone I stop will get arrested or written a ticket. When they ask why I will tell them they can thank their elected Officials for mandating their arrest. By the way, if we have to wear body cameras why shouldn't politicians be required to wear them too?
I expect nothing less!
The final shootings in Baltimore brought to an end one of the most violent months the city has seen in decades, with 43 people killed and 108 people injured in May alone. More people have been shot to death this month than any month since August 1972, when 45 people were killed.
I've said many times before that eventually it will come to the point where we hand the public " how was your experience" cards, not unlike what resteraunts do.
However policing and running a resteraunt are very, very different.
The liberals that are behind complete nonsense like this should be forced to live in the ghetto for a few days.
Just call me a ROD. For Retired On Duty! Proactive police work is dead!
This has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever read... God help this state.
At the last meeting Dean was asked for a list of bills that the Fop sponsored. He looked around like he was lost and finally said that Fop submitted no bills this year. Not one. This has never happened. Many time bills are submitted by Fop to stop bad legislation from getting past. Legislation that keeps us from doing our job. How does this happen? Even Mike Shields submitted bills sponsored by Fop.
LMAO.... I stopped doing streets stops long before this! I know I Know. Im a dog and what not. You go ahead. Im not letting some no balls boss jamm me up!
Until voters toss out the idiots in Springfield - wholesale - we will have more of this.
This is a death blow to law enforcement in Illinois, particularly in Chicago.
although unrelated to this thread this is news
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/646805/lori-lightfoot-chicago-police-board
Any copper who continues to vote the same fucks into office should not be bothered by this.
So they do not have to provide you with their name or info. (Which can be confusing because it's illegal to provide false/misleading I.D.) and yet, I, as the poleece must write down my identification even though it is clearly printed out on my badge and name tag?
Oh that's right, CPS edumacated !boing!
Fuckin ridiculous
Jesus Christ!! Time for a few "The Purge" days!!
That is about the stupidist law I've EVER heard of!
How about the name and badge # of the supervisor who compelled me to submit contact cards so that "we" can beat the other watches and help the commander at comp stat? Lady policing is moribund. Wait until the body cams arrive. Oh yeah, they're coming. You'll hear her last breath like Baltimore just witnessed. Make life less stressful on yourselves. Give society the police department it desires. Try it. It's liberating! -Signed "Retired on the Job"
SUNK
The demonization of the police continues, not only in Illinois, but nationwide. The decline in crime that has been going on for over 20 years now seems to be coming to an end. The police in Baltimore have shut down and it looks like the NYPD is doing the same. With the passing of this bill Chicago will be next. A lot of people don't know that the violent crime rate in Milwaukee is far worse then in most major US cities ( homicides up 180%). Every major US city is seeing a spike in violent crime. If you break down a cities crime rate by neighborhood you will see crime has risen by spectacular numbers. The most evident and plausible explanation is the demonization of the police and the suggestion that the greatest physical threat to black males are the police, thanks to President Obama, Eric Holder Al Sharpton and Mayor of New York city. People in the coming years will be appalled by the violence which will set upon our cities and it will take many years for this to turn around if it ever does. Officer morale is in the tank everywhere. Yes, the police are to blame for the crime, their tactics, street stops, broken windows policing is at fault. Even here in Cook County the racist elected officials are blaming mass incarceration of blacks as the real problem. The people harmed by all of this will be the poor and the black of the inner cities. Police shootings and killings could end today and it would have little impact on the black death rate. Glad I am retired and my heart goes out to those still patrolling the streets of our cities.
The enemy has infected every aspect of society. Greed.
Doesn't matter. As long as contact cards remain essential to the procurement of VRI, coppers are going make street stops. It really is that simple.
My partner's become dependent upon VRI money, I don't work it at all.
For him it's always "I gotta get parkers for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some school absentees for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some contact cards for my VRI!"
"I gotta write some ANOVS for my VRI!"
He paper-jumps whenever possible. All in the interest of that VRI check.
Then, he drags his ass in on our Mondays...complaining how tired he is.
No way that is not a hoax
Let the tact and gang folks do traffic stops if that's the case. I'll just drive around and answer my calls only.
How else are they going to set up the need for martial law? They tie our hands and then ask why we aren't doing anything. The cry will be that the problem is now so big that the police can't fix it but the military will.
Good I'm glad. Let the never made a street stop, can't articulate why, just do it bosses figure out new roll call speeches when this passes.
I'm sure McDonalds will have a PROMOTION to Redeem the receipts for a Happy Meal or something..............
I'm not stoping anyone, today my new point of view is to let it happen; that is let the motherfuckers kill each other I could give a fuck presently. Three years and one month left before I leave this shit hole.
"Hello city printer? Can we change our order for the next 10,000 contact cards and make them in triplicate?"
Believe it or not, there are plenty of strokes on the job who will continue to work. No matter how much this department and politicians mess with us, there will always be strokes. In my district the bosses keep fucking with us. Yet I see the citation bin full and over flowing every single day. I see the tow bin full and every single night guys bring in a head or two.
Will the back of the receipt offer a five dollar coupon for KFC?
Paul Kersey said...
To the average citizen, reading this says - cops are not going to be doing ANY pro-active police work, SO you better be prepared for more crime on the streets.
That translates to - you better be packing ALL the time you leave the house for any "encounters" you might have at the gas station, the store, or just parking your car.
You are on your own as far as safety.
The "average" citizen better start buying some guns and going to the range to practice, so they can "carry" effectively in order to compensate for the lack of pro-active policing.
6/01/2015 01:58:00 AM
Guys like you keep predicting the same old shit- that guys will stop doing proactive police work. I call bullshit. A lot of officers still love their job and will still be proactive. They know how to evolve when the conditions change. It seems to me that guys like you will use any excuse to not do any police work.
I have no issues with this new law. So big deal. I need to give the subject I just stopped a receipt. I do every single thing by the book and I still bring in at least two to three arrests per night. I also bring in other activity and when the next period comes, myself and my partner will be working the plain clothes car permanently. Proactive officers will always be proactive. Lazy officers will always be lazy.
Wow, this is F'd up! Unfortunately there will be coppers out there that will still make street stops to impress the bosses or get VRI or both. Also, if you stop the same person 2, 3, 4 times he will now take his "receipts" to IPRA and get a number on you for harassment. All you young coppers get out now while you still can.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm sure McDonalds will have a PROMOTION to Redeem the receipts for a Happy Meal or something..............
6/01/2015 07:01:00 AM
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you might be able to use them to get into a Sox game
Okay, now I get it. They want us to turn it around. Now we are the ones who have to slip a sawbuck to the driver of the vehicle.
Doesn't matter. As long as contact cards remain essential to the procurement of VRI, coppers are going make street stops. It really is that simple.
My partner's become dependent upon VRI money, I don't work it at all.
For him it's always "I gotta get parkers for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some school absentees for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some contact cards for my VRI!"
"I gotta write some ANOVS for my VRI!"
He paper-jumps whenever possible. All in the interest of that VRI check.
Then, he drags his ass in on our Mondays...complaining how tired he is
Statistics will plummet and medical use will rise once VRI comes to its ultimate end.........There's a large percentage of our department that does some level of "work" for VRI. Once that opportunity ends, police will end whats left of their productivity ending their incentive.
Who will get the contract for the receipts? A "Minority" front man/woman?
It's true! Here is the link to the bill that just passes the house.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=1304&GAID=13&GA=99&DocTypeID=SB&LegID=87784&SessionID=88
Look carefully at how the FOP Lodge 7 represented their members when this went through in Springfield....they didn't oppose the bill!!!!! They were "NEUTRAL", how does that work????
What a bunch of bull shit
This is where Bruce Rauner has to show his mettle and exercise his veto power.
The thugs are declaring war on police from the Peoples' Law Office to the White House.
I've always wonder of these "activist" are all connected to the gangs and are intentionally pushing for legislation to prevent us from interfering with drug sales. It's not that far fetched. Joe Columbo and his Italain American civil rights league had the same plan. He pushed the agenda that Italians were being harassed for being Italian at the same time he was one of the heads of the 5 families. It would be ashame if today's "leaders" met the same tragic end as Columbo.
Look at crime in New York and Baltimore.
And to top all this off, they are on the road to basically eliminating our pensions, or at least paying us just above the poverty level.
Remember HERO cops arrested that POS ghetto scum who killed that kid in Lakeview. Please keep GHETTO scum away from us law abiding tax payers. What they do to each other is really not my worry as anarchy and lawlessness seem to be on our doorsteps thanks to a ghetto culture of violence and anger.
Can't hold suspect more than 24hrs
Can't make witness stay for questioning
Must film line ups
Must question murders with video
Must fill out race in traffic stop
Now receipts!?! I'll do whatever the city wants but don't ever believe that crime will be solved. I took that oath but it seems like the pension laws are pretty flexible when it comes to starving my family.
I can't wait for a camera on my neck so i can post selfies with may tact buddies.
the death knell of modern aggressive policing...the beginning of the end for urban (some) communities...
This is old news!!!!! De-policing started under J-fled and continues to this day. Proudly drive your squad car past the thugs dealings drugs on the corner and tell your bosses "all is well" and collect your paycheck. It's really not that difficult even though you signed up for something entirely different. Give the public and media what they desire.
This would make our job more difficult no doubt, but adapt and overcome. Stop whining and get out there and do your job the best you know how. Follow the rules and work hard with good intentions and you'll be fine. You still have one of the best jobs in the world and if you're ever doubting that, go look at McCormick Place during the next police test.
I'm still scratching my head over the legislation (01 JAN 2015) that forbids me from showing photo arrays on my own cases. Misdemeanor or otherwise. I guess I'm a rogue detective. (SMH).
I have worked through the Rodney KING riots, the O.J. trials, the Jeremiah MEARDAY fiasco, and now the poor unarmed black victim shot by police riots and looting. I have heard the police say "I aint gonna do s#@t anymore" more than I can count. But we always do. The fact is, arrests are up over the last few years. Our current strategy of policing is a combine for arrests of no consequential value. Most are never prosecuted, and many never see a day in court. They are just dots on a map to ease compstat. Well officer you are the police now...will you jeopardize a day off time due because you don't make contact cards/street stops anymore? I think we all know the answer.
And the band plays on....
You guys talk a lot of shit, I will still hear you guys on the radio getting event numbers, giving gang dispersals, and doing foot chases for dope. You should really take the example from Baltimore PD and let the community police itself.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=1304&GAID=13&GA=99&DocTypeID=SB&LegID=87784&SessionID=88
Ironic that some of the Sponsors of this bill live and are raising their own brood in the very neighborhoods that will see an uptick in violent crimes as a result of its passage, much like we have witnessed in Baltimore.
But then again, the Police are the problem, right? (not)
Compost created this monster. Contact cards are a great tool for working police. Compost ruined this by forcing them to be written in order to work special employment. 30 to 40 percent of the police in the department did the heavy lifting and put their hands on people and made the arrests. The other 60 percent write reports, answer their calls, direct traffic, work school crossings, eat. This is necessary to make policing work as a whole. This 60 percent would write a contact card once in awihile. Now for them to work special they were pressured to write contact cards. Most of these were usually written on average citizens they came into contact with (normal everyday joe citizen). This loads up the contact card base with information this is not useful to the police who want to make arrests. The contact card system is an investigative tool to catch bad guys. It is now a vast wasteland of useless information for investigative use it takes hours to sift through. Mc stupid and dick Tracy have destroyed a great tool and has now become the albatross of the department. Mc stupid is leaving soon and the city will pay out millions to victims of contact cards. I think mc stupid should give back the money he has been paid to help ease the financial loss of the citizens money.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Baltimore here we come!!!!!
Dean was down in Springfield and was no where to be found when this bill was up in Committee. Ask him for his receipt from the Senate Committee showing he opposed this bill. I have mine. Oh, and dont let him say "they snuck it in on us". It was on the Senate calendar in the morning.
010,011,015,025 say goodbye to stopping the open air drug markets on street stops. think dope dealers are rich now?
Would you rather be in LA?
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-deputy-shortage-20150531-story.html#page=1
To make up for the shortage, deputies are sometimes working back-to-back eight-hour shifts, leaving them exhausted and raising safety concerns.
from the Speaker of the House Mike Madigan (Democrat) and Senate Floor Leader John Cullerton both predict that there will be free reign on Lake-View residents when the have nots' will arrive from every side of this City and the halve nots' will be free to roam, pick and choose their prey without getting street stopped!
This Rauner's way of sticking it to Rahm? This mostly affects Shitcago and surrounding areas. Fuck both of these jag bags anyways.
Time follow Baltimore's lead. Sit back and watch the bodies pile up.
FOR SALE 1000 BUSINESS CARDS FOR $10. Have the preprinted cards for the mucks you stop. That way, they will have the correct spelling. Maybe we should have baseball type of cards with your picture and your arrest statistics on the back. Great for those group stops. They can swap them to have a complete collection. Also put your phone number, address and family information. And your net worth for law suits.
Forget any and all proactive policing. Only arrive afterwards, take a report, and clean up the mess on the sidewalk.
So I once worked at a politically correct oriented PD that actually had their officers do this. They were to issue a receipt to each person they stopped (even if they were not frisked)after the stop. The receipt explained how you could complain about the officer's conduct during the stop. At first officers didn't give out the receipts as ordered. Then pressure was brought to bear when someone didn't get their receipt. So the word was, if you stop someone, you better have issued a receipt to them. I'm not sure why (and I know you're shocked!) but all of a sudden there was a significant drop off in street stops as well as enforcement numbers went down significantly. A new chief came in and stopped the receipt issuing practice, however, the Department has never seen their enforcement numbers come back near where they were before the receipt policy was enacted.
You guys amaze me, 14 comments regarding the BS pension legislation, we are doomed
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15 including yours.
Who is the sponsor of the bill?
I heard this from downtown. I know a lot of people at headquarters, I'm in the loop. The part of this legislation that they're not telling you is, after you give them the receipt we're going to have to give them a hand job.
If it passes nobody will get a break!
Just another installment of the secular, liberal, progressive nonsense that affirms the attitude that the people that we stop are not responsible for their actions. The government, or in this instance, the officer, as an agent of the government, is to blame for your violation.
Be safe out there. Do what you must to protect the sheep, but nothing more. The wolves inhabit the chambers of the legislature and continue to change the rules so they'll win the battle.
On the back will it say compliments of peoples law office jon lovey and company? Will their phone number be on it also? Talk about a "trick bag" for police! Insanity? Most of the so called "lawmakers" drafting this nonsense are black, not a flame but a reality to who did this! Are the people that drafted this bad piece of legislation out in lets say englewood talking to people that are doing the murders? the shootings? Thought so!
Give them what they want, slow it down.
Watch this 60 minutes Cleveland police chief and officers, the part where 60 minutes did a study and said "Police officers all over the country live an average of 10 years less than other people!" Better get that pension money Dean!! Officers do whatever you have to do to destress, eat better, join a gym-health club, go to doctor,watch your blood pressure, go on vacation, enjoy your family!
http://www.cbs.com/shows/60_minutes/video/?ftag=ACQ518ad43&vndid=60%20Minutes&ef_id=VWyIGQAABFy1VB6w:20150601164517:s
Retiring in September, am active at the gym, try to eat right, laugh a lot at work, Went to doctor everything was good except the "silent killer" high blood pressure getting it under control now! Going to miss the coppers we had a great time but retire when you can!!
Sounds like a plan . Ask citizens of Baltimore and ferguson how the new , improved report writing police department is working .
$85k a year to write reports , a few parking tickets a day . I'll never retire now , raise the age yo 70 . Straight days , summer furloughs , holidays off , a few medical days when needed , forget that 75 % pension , I'll keep my uniform allowance , court time for traffic once a month and special employment , made over $100 k last year .
What about... How's my driving? Bumper sticker. Can stick it next to... Driver Has No Cash. Bumper sticker.
Well here is some more crap to add to this city spiral downward.
You may recall her name Lori Lightfoot, when she ran OPS before being called IPRA.
Now she is being appointed to Chicago Police Board by 9.5......
I hope no Department members go infront of her in the future. She was a disaster at OPS and ran off to private practice after her in effective management in OPS.
ANOTHER attorney connected to D.C.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=1304&GAID=13&GA=99&DocTypeID=SB&LegID=87784&SessionID=88
Illinois senate bill 1304
This will be the pretext.
Next will be the nigh near total disengagement by The Police
to protect themselves from this intentionally vile legislation.
Seriously...
Even if you're right as rain in you justification for the stop and
or arrest, these customer service "receipts" will go into the big
Bozo Drum and be catalogued/tabulated for use against YOU.
Guilty of committing a changing by the day "something" and
you'll have to prove yourself "innocent."
It gets even better...
Watch for the department to crank up trick-bag discipline for
"not enough/no activity" behind this silly shit.
They're not content with the bland and flavorless, by the numbers
reactive Policing I they've precipitated... This is so the reality
of bland and flavorless, by the numbers reactive Policing
hurts at both ends.
"How dare you try to protect yourselves from US!"
Or as a family member sarcastically remarked:
"Who the fuck do you guys think you are?
You want to be free to be The Police without
any politically inspired impediments?"
Can i put my home address on the receipt too in the interest of full disclosure? what a joke!
Do as I say.
Not as I did.
I have rank and you have to listen to me. So, if you and your partner want to stay on your car, keep your start time, or stay on this team or even think about working with your partner then you'll go and get me those contact cards, give the citizens their receipts, and go along with the program. And don't ask me about getting time off. I don't like anymore than you do. It's just the New York way.
Now, I gotta go home. My wife will be mad if I don't go to this family party and my kids need me.
Doesn't matter. As long as contact cards remain essential to the procurement of VRI, coppers are going make street stops. It really is that simple.
My partner's become dependent upon VRI money, I don't work it at all.
For him it's always "I gotta get parkers for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some school absentees for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some contact cards for my VRI!"
"I gotta write some ANOVS for my VRI!"
He paper-jumps whenever possible. All in the interest of that VRI check.
Then, he drags his ass in on our Mondays...complaining how tired he is.
True dat!
Give em a receipt via traffic ticket. How many of us have called or E mailed the Senators telling them to vote No
what's next How am I driving call 311 on police vehicles
Haven't done a street stop in a year...I take pride in that...I also have never gotten sued or arrested..there's other ways to get contact cards without jumping out on ten jagoffs. ..work smarter not harder.
I am not seeing why this is such a horrible idea.
How is any copper harmed by this?
The neighborhoods with roving bands of animals will feel the pain of this stupidity the most. The very definition of ironic.
Just the other day, my son told me that when he grows up he wants to be a policeman. Hearing those words should have filled me with pride knowing my son wants to follow in my footsteps. Instead, it brought me sadness because I knew I had to explain to my son why his dream of being a "hero" and helping others for a career would be a very bad decision. I admit there was a time when I shared my sons vision of what being a police officer in Chicago would be like but after over two decades of "serving" the public, I have experienced enough to know that he would be making the worst decision of his life in pursuing a career with the Chicago Police Department. The facts are just too many to list here and let's face it, we all know which way the department and city is heading. My goal is to convince him not to become a public servant. I have always encouraged him to follow his dreams but I simply cannot do it this time and it makes me sad because I take great pride in being a police officer.
I wish I was 50 so I could retire...well ill just layup and ride out the next 5 yrs and retire.
April Fool's Day.
Who gives a fuck about street stops?
Pension disaster looming.
They put the bondholders ahead of us.
In plain English, Rahm can now spend the city into bankruptcy and put us at the end of the line.
Death of Street Stop = Birth of Anarchy
300 shot 37 dead in May in Chicago way up!
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150601/west-englewood/more-than-300-people-shot-35-fatally-during-may-chicago
Streets stop receipts yea that will work won't kill crime but will kill trees!
Arrest Made in Palos Park Man's Shooting DeathThe 25-year-old was killed and robbed of his cell phone on Chicago's North Side at about 2 a.m. A Chicago man has been charged with murder.
6/01/2015 01:16:00 AM
The book arrested was released on Bond after a prior for threatening a PO with a Machete and a Dog the previous year. Made the news.
Hennessy Williams (Ghetto playwright) stood atop his milk-crate and surveyed his neighborhood, his battlefield. Standing up there make him feel like one of the great leaders. Yes, that's who he is, he felt like Eisenhower addressing the paratroopers before Normandy.
He looked down at the coterie gathered in front of him. Standing there was the affable Ivy "Peanut" Carver, BwWheel (pronounced Bill) Jones and last but not least, the steadfast Soup Coolers Watkins.
Hennessy had read about SCC having it's tenth anniversary. He contemplated about what when on in his hood the last ten years. In that 10 year period, 373 black men were killed by other black men. THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE! During that same time the police killed two black men. Those stats even caused the unshakable Hennessy to let out a long ululating moan.
Hennessy turned to his flock and stated, "The raycess Po-Lice villin, has been killin, too many of our chillin', Ya Dig!?"
and so it goes.....
This should finally bring an end to pro-active policing and prove a blessing to all armed thugs in this city. This may also be the beginning of the end for District Tac Teams. Predators are allowed to roam the streets at will because, by law, the CPD will only stop you if a description of a WANTED OFFENDER is given AFTER A CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED! Just as the new contact card format has forced good policemen to become bad liars (all for the sake of "activity" and quotas), this new legislation will force good policemen to become criminals themselves (at least those who ignore this law and still choose to stop and search hoodlums and gangbangers). The radical left has won...the war is over. Why do we even try anymore SCC? And then the follow-up question: What's the definition of insanity?
2015 policing at its best--
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_9gwipPFNEc
The dicks in the area will love not having to work police shootings!
ISP overtime will shoot through the roof And that is not counting follow up either you know the court and the fed lawsuits that come after a shooting. Sheriff Dart doesnt want to do anything he is elected for you actually think he wants sheriffs doing investigations?
If you are stopping ghetto thugs to generate contact cards for this department, then you should be sued and you deserve the resulting punitive damages.
Stopping people because they are in a high crime area is against the law and violates the U.S. Constitution. Stopping people because they are "known felons" is against the law. Stopping a bunch of people on a "known narcotics spot" is against the law.
Don't let this department tell you any different. The only reason the department gets away with this is because no one sues since their monetary damages are so low for a single street stop. But, that's all about to change with multiple class action lawsuits against the department's contact card kings.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Doesn't matter. As long as contact cards remain essential to the procurement of VRI, coppers are going make street stops. It really is that simple.
My partner's become dependent upon VRI money, I don't work it at all.
For him it's always "I gotta get parkers for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some school absentees for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some contact cards for my VRI!"
"I gotta write some ANOVS for my VRI!"
He paper-jumps whenever possible. All in the interest of that VRI check.
Then, he drags his ass in on our Mondays...complaining how tired he is.
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That is my kind of copper! A real man with his priorities straight, unlike you. Leave him alone and let him rest up for his VRI!
- VRI Guy
Collect them like S&H Green stamps and redeem
Them for a gift!
This sounds like B.S.
Good. Now I have time to Uber the squad car between calls.
Society is getting the police forces they want. Fuck them, stay safe and go home to your families.
A good read
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/ferguson-freddie-gray-policing-118348.html#.VWzOIs9Viko
"I'm not stoping anyone, today my new point of view is to let it happen; that is let the motherfuckers kill each other I could give a fuck presently. Three years and one month left before I leave this shit hole"
What if I take on this attitude, but I work the Beat where you live? How about I just ignore the shady looking character snooping around your yard at night? So my I don't give a fuck attitude leads to people breaking in your house, stealing your TV, Laptop....possibly doing harm to your kids? Yeah, not a great idea right? Just retire already. Or go work inside.
As far as this receipt thing, its pretty ridiculous, if actually true. We are required to give our badge and name upon request. We are also required to inform a person why we stop them. So its just redundant, again, if true.
I think its funny how people are bitching and moaning about it. Oh thats right, that means you cant just do your BS stops anymore? Can't Motherfuck everyone and walk away? haha. Its 2015, time to adjust your PO-LEECE tactics. You know it is possible to be proactive and NOT an asshole at the same time. Try it fellas. That is all I have...... (exit stage left)
Time to stop being the police boys and girls !
As a Tactical Officer , I will not conduct traffic stops , I will respond to in progress call , will not look through pants pockets for dope , will gather info from reliable informants and kick doors down to recover guns and dope . No more bs. Snobs dopw arrests , same pay , less bs
Not like 10 years ago , nobody wants my job , still not swiping ,
(OT) Could Rauner be on our side? On WLS890 news Rauner said he is not for rahms bill as it "kicks the can down the road!" OK Bruce you said you supported police pensions make him pay up thank you! Dean now what are you going to do? Resign today? Looks like Bruce is a businessman unlike rahm the deceiver!
Can't wait to get the fuck out of here!
It should've been dead a long time ago but I guess some people don't mind getting sued by some asshole who has been locked up 47 times.
This legislation, SB1304 (725 ILCS 5/124A-15) was introduced by Senator Ira I. Silverstein a Democrat and Majority Caucus Chair. He is a practicing attorney but only does petty law work, i.e. estate planning and small business issues like licensing etc. He is married to Debra Silverstein, a Chicago Alderman from the 50th Ward. According to a very quick internet search she is well known to be a huge lackey of your mayor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debra_Silverstein
Debra Silverstein is the Alderman of the 50th Ward of the City of Chicago, Illinois.[1] She defeated 38-year incumbent Bernard Stone in the 2011 runoff election, a race in which she was endorsed by Mayor of Chicago Rahm Emanuel. Debra Silverstein is considered one of Mayor Emanuel's strongest supporters.[2]
Silverstein is married to Illinois State Senator Ira Silverstein, with whom she has four children.[3] She holds a degree in accounting from the University of Illinois at Chicago. Before entering politics, she founded a small tax consultancy.
So.... where is this legislation really coming from? Any chance it's an attempt to force retirements? A helping hand to bankrupt the pension fund?
Good luck on holding a crime scene while waiting for the 2 investigators from the state police to show up, while the mob encircles the officers assigned to protect the scene. Also while the state police investigators await the State certified crime scene investigators speeding through rush hour traffic from either East Peoria or Sterling, IL
I told you long ago, it's hands off with these rats. Now give me my 30 minutes at Clyborn and Webster
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Doesn't matter. As long as contact cards remain essential to the procurement of VRI, coppers are going make street stops. It really is that simple.
My partner's become dependent upon VRI money, I don't work it at all.
For him it's always "I gotta get parkers for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some school absentees for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some contact cards for my VRI!"
"I gotta write some ANOVS for my VRI!"
He paper-jumps whenever possible. All in the interest of that VRI check.
Then, he drags his ass in on our Mondays...complaining how tired he is.
6/01/2015 06:45:00 AM
Sounds like your partner will collect about 2 pension checks before he drops dead. Unless he gets sued and fired first.
Giving these scumbags your name is a wonderful idea. It will make it all the more easy for them to Google you and find out where you and your families are. These really are fucked up times we're living in.
Time to put my fake star and name tag to use. It was a few bucks but it's all good. Thank goodness no one know has that number. Yet!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Doesn't matter. As long as contact cards remain essential to the procurement of VRI, coppers are going make street stops. It really is that simple.
My partner's become dependent upon VRI money, I don't work it at all.
For him it's always "I gotta get parkers for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some school absentees for my VRI!"
"I gotta get some contact cards for my VRI!"
"I gotta write some ANOVS for my VRI!"
He paper-jumps whenever possible. All in the interest of that VRI check.
Then, he drags his ass in on our Mondays...complaining how tired he is.
Answer: Get a new partner or quit bitching about him being tired.
Asshole POS politicians anyone doing street stops is plain nuts I'm retired but if I were working no f-ing way would I do it next to go tact teams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bOQitInC84
The future of policing in America....
Fuck that! NO MORE STREETS STOPS FOR ME AND NO MORE TRAFFIC TICKETS!
Stick that idea where the sun don't shine, stupid politicians!
Can we change it to "Here's your sign"............
Anonymous Anonymous said...
No Problem. Looks like everyone I stop will get arrested or written a ticket. When they ask why I will tell them they can thank their elected Officials for mandating their arrest.
By the way, if we have to wear body cameras why shouldn't politicians be required to wear them too?
6/01/2015 01:59:00 AM
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obviously NO dumbass... Public hates the police, not the politicians who hand them phones and link ups
Anonymous said...
Just the other day, my son told me that when he grows up he wants to be a policeman. Hearing those words should have filled me with pride knowing my son wants to follow in my footsteps. Instead, it brought me sadness because I knew I had to explain to my son why his dream of being a "hero" and helping others for a career would be a very bad decision. I admit there was a time when I shared my sons vision of what being a police officer in Chicago would be like but after over two decades of "serving" the public, I have experienced enough to know that he would be making the worst decision of his life in pursuing a career with the Chicago Police Department. The facts are just too many to list here and let's face it, we all know which way the department and city is heading. My goal is to convince him not to become a public servant. I have always encouraged him to follow his dreams but I simply cannot do it this time and it makes me sad because I take great pride in being a police officer.
6/01/2015 02:31:00 PM
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tell him to go into finance--- those guys make mega bucks, and tell him not to forget to buy a lot of ant-acids too
Anything less than the legally obligated Pension Payments should lead to radical measures by the Rank and File and C.F.D. We are getting shit on and getting no response from our Unions. We have been sold out and Rahm is once again laughing at us and Rauner sees us as pathetic and vulnerable. Wake up people, we are one step away from Digbys Securitards.
Anonymous said...
I wish I was 50 so I could retire...well ill just layup and ride out the next 5 yrs and retire.
6/01/2015 02:35:00 PM
You must work at the JISC.
200 block W. 81st Street Woman shot in the head and 10 shots fired I290 E-Way at S. Kostner: okay. Let the Slow Down begin! June 01, 2015! De-Policing! CHIRAQ!
The death of the pension.
I think its funny how people are bitching and moaning about it. Oh thats right, that means you cant just do your BS stops anymore? Can't Motherfuck everyone and walk away? haha. Its 2015, time to adjust your PO-LEECE tactics. You know it is possible to be proactive and NOT an asshole at the same time. Try it fellas. That is all I have...... (exit stage left)
6/01/2015 04:39:00 PM
Well said, I love it! No need for me to add a thing.....
Anonymous said...
Just the other day, my son told me that when he grows up he wants to be a policeman. Hearing those words should have filled me with pride knowing my son wants to follow in my footsteps. Instead, it brought me sadness because I knew I had to explain to my son why his dream of being a "hero" and helping others for a career would be a very bad decision. I admit there was a time when I shared my sons vision of what being a police officer in Chicago would be like but after over two decades of "serving" the public, I have experienced enough to know that he would be making the worst decision of his life in pursuing a career with the Chicago Police Department. The facts are just too many to list here and let's face it, we all know which way the department and city is heading. My goal is to convince him not to become a public servant. I have always encouraged him to follow his dreams but I simply cannot do it this time and it makes me sad because I take great pride in being a police officer.
6/01/2015 02:31:00 PM
A friend of mine tried to talk me out of going on the police department 30 years ago. Then he helped me when it was apparent I was going to try to get on regardless. I wouldn't have missed it but it was a lot of bullshit. Any son or daughter of mine would be insane to get on now. Two weeks ago we attended our son's graduation from medical school. He's the first doctor in the family. Everyone is as proud as anyone can imagine. Now we can help to pay off the debt. He had the smarts and worked very hard and now has M.D. after his name. I shed tears of pride at graduation. That was a wonderful day.
So if a young person can, get as good an education as you can and do not come on the police department.
retired guy
"Anonymous said...
Just the other day, my son told me that when he grows up he wants to be a policeman"
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I went through the same conversation with my son, but I told him he should look into law school, practice through the states attorney's office -where he can advocate for police and crime victims, and then go into a personal practice of defending cops.
It killed me to say that to him, but it's for his own good.
I think its funny how people are bitching and moaning about it. Oh thats right, that means you cant just do your BS stops anymore? Can't Motherfuck everyone and walk away? haha. Its 2015, time to adjust your PO-LEECE tactics. You know it is possible to be proactive and NOT an asshole at the same time. Try it fellas. That is all I have...... (exit stage left)
6/01/2015 04:39:00 PM
Wrong, brother...
You can do everything right and still get set up, your head offered up on a platter. And the department, the public, the politicians, city hall, and the media will paint with broad strokes, and move on to the next story.
You of all people should know...
I'm not handing out receipts to subjects who prey and feed at the pond, who've gladly announced they have no interest in being considered human because they have no regard for anyone or anything.
No. I've given them too much already and have treated them better than they've ever deserved. For what? Dot your I's, cross your T's, and everyone let's them go, over and over.
You wearing a badge? You are now the bad guy with no credibility and presumed guilty.
On the other hand, if you are violating every law we've got? Aw, you poor thing! Come here, let's give you more and more.
Fuck that, enough. I'm done.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
At the last meeting Dean was asked for a list of bills that the Fop sponsored. He looked around like he was lost and finally said that Fop submitted no bills this year. Not one. This has never happened. Many time bills are submitted by Fop to stop bad legislation from getting past. Legislation that keeps us from doing our job. How does this happen? Even Mike Shields submitted bills sponsored by Fop.
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Thanks for the post Mark. But YOU endorse Rahm after he screwed the retirees. YOU let Daley take a pass on 35 million to our pension. YOU dropped the ball on the COLA bill. YOU were the puppet master in the Shields Coup. YOU sucked as a lobbyist!!!
PS you don't proposed bills to stop other bills. You lobby at the committee level, union work 101.
At least the Detention Aides will be happy with the Stop and Fisk law. Less arrestees heading to the lockup!
I wish I was 50 so I could retire...well ill just layup and ride out the next 5 yrs and retire.
6/01/2015 02:35:00 PM
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Best advice I ever received from a wise old retired sergent. Don't wish it away. Enjoy the job while you can. It will be over before you know it, finish the job strong and collect until the end. You only have one go round.
Bill sponsored by Silverstein. Silverstein and DiAmico are tied at the hip. NW siders run against Silverstein and DiAmico. Too bad FOP likes both.
That's the problem with the FOP. Drop Dean and elect non-clouted legit guys.
So sad that we are talking family, friends or anyone from being a copper. Society is fucked up and the people will be begging soon when this trend gets out of control and crime hits the stars.
But the JO' Rev' and race baiters will find some words to believe it is all the white mans fault. The media airs their BS and watch the media get their asses handed to them while they are reporting the news and the copper' got blinders on.
Yiu younfg copper' should work on your waving to the mutts. Smile -smile - smile for the I Phones.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have no issues with this new law. So big deal. I need to give the subject I just stopped a receipt. I do every single thing by the book and I still bring in at least two to three arrests per night. I also bring in other activity and when the next period comes, myself and my partner will be working the plain clothes car permanently. Proactive officers will always be proactive. Lazy officers will always be lazy.
6/01/2015 08:00:00 AM
And a do-nothings paycheck is the same as yours tuff guy.
Everyone who gets on here and claims they "aren't going to do anything" are just going to end up like the copper who got caught napping in his car a week or so back. you all are just blowing smoke. to be honest, 98% of the people on this job show up and do their job despite what's said on here. I probably speak for a small minority but I probably wouldn't allow anyone around me to just sit on their ass and collect a check. If you do everything by the books why would you not continue to do your job? It SEEMS the public doesn't appreciate us now, Well, tough shit. I'm here to uphold the law. you don't have to respect my profession.
I have no issues with this new law. So big deal. I need to give the subject I just stopped a receipt. I do every single thing by the book and I still bring in at least two to three arrests per night. I also bring in other activity and when the next period comes, myself and my partner will be working the plain clothes car permanently. Proactive officers will always be proactive. Lazy officers will always be lazy.
6/01/2015 08:00:00 AM
You are a fucking moron!! I have followed every Federal, State, county, and city law and have been found by a jury to be righteous, but they still awarded the bad guy who admitted fault money...have fun proactive policer,,,1811 is not proactive either..your probably a Northside stroke or have zero time on the job!!
My partial comment on the Highland Park PD "traffic stop receipt" fiasco should have followed with: where was our FOP [and the State] Lodge 7 lobbying the legislators on this vital issue? There was little media coverage as well. If this is an example of FOP's vigilance of the Springfield shanannagins with pension legislation we're in trouble. By the way, it was only last year that the Federal Court monitor stated that HPPD was "bias-free."
Finally:
Thank you SCC for 10 years of hard work!
to what Michael Mette said...
I think its funny how people are bitching and moaning about it. Oh thats right, that means you cant just do your BS stops anymore? Can't Motherfuck everyone and walk away? haha. ITS 2015, TIME TO ADJUST YOUR PO-LEECE TACTICS. You know it is possible to be proactive and NOT an asshole at the same time. TRY IT FELLAS. That is all I have...... (exit stage left)
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You sir are a fool...as well as any Chicago Police Officer that agrees with you. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't work inside, aren't in a special unit, don't wear a white-shirt and have more than 5 years on this job. Look around! We've been adjusting our police tactics so much in the past few years we don't know which way is up or down. And it's getting a lot of coppers I know fired, sued, hurt or killed. Face reality! No one on this thread is talking about MFing citizens or BS stops. Look in the mirror! Do your police tactics involve perjury, petty revenue generation and inarticulable reasonable suspicion and/or probable cause? If so, STOP IT! And learn the difference between complaining and bitching versus stating the obvious and predicting how this legislation is gonna affect Patrol. Our bosses are out of ideas and our politicians clearly want to sacrifice police for political expediency. You think you're one of the working heroes of the CPD? You sound more like one of those Japanese soldiers they find on a Pacific island somewhere, refusing to surrender long after WWII was over. You're not working, not honorable...just misguided and pathetic.
OT: To those CPD parents who are talking their children out of being a police officer one day: you are absolutely making the right call and you should be commended. And for all of you that dissuade family, friends and students from choosing the CPD: thank you for being the voice of reason. Oh, we understand the allure don't we SCC? This was an honorable profession, you still get to help people once in awhile and there are some great officers left. And it's tough not to hand down tradition and career to your offspring. However, as you stated, we all know where this Department is headed. Within the next ten years, the Chicago Police Department will look just like the CTA, US Postal Service or the Chicago Public Schools. Funny how, not too long ago, those jobs were examples of sound job security. Now they are pathetic examples of dysfunction and waste. There are still plenty of honorable professions out there, especially in medicine and technology. Help your little ones with their math and science studies. If your children insist on going into law enforcement, steer them towards Homeland Security, the DEA or the US Marshals.
I agree with this guy....
Guys like you keep predicting the same old shit- that guys will stop doing proactive police work. I call bullshit. A lot of officers still love their job and will still be proactive. They know how to evolve when the conditions change. It seems to me that guys like you will use any excuse to not do any police work.
On top of that, not quite sure what people are afraid of. Its basically a contact card in reverse. Almost 10 years on the job, STILL waiting to get 'jammed up' for doing LEGIT work. Follow Rules/Regs, GOs, SOs and Constitution, I thinkyou'll be ok if you play by the rules.
Guys like you keep predicting the same old shit- that guys will stop doing proactive police work. I call bullshit. A lot of officers still love their job and will still be proactive. They know how to evolve when the conditions change. It seems to me that guys like you will use any excuse to not do any police work.
6/01/2015 07:50:00 AM
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Paul Kersey is not a cop. Paul Kersey was the vigilante in Death Wish and actually worked with the cops to rid the streets of crime.
You should get out more and watch some old movies before calling "bullshit" on a good guy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have no issues with this new law. So big deal. I need to give the subject I just stopped a receipt. I do every single thing by the book and I still bring in at least two to three arrests per night. I also bring in other activity and when the next period comes, myself and my partner will be working the plain clothes car permanently. Proactive officers will always be proactive. Lazy officers will always be lazy.
6/01/2015 08:00:00 AM
That is too funny! Your killing me here!!! You are joking right? Right?
Guys just like New York and Baltimore, take 10 steps back. Darrin Wilson did everything every thing right and now look at him. Try to enjoy family if you are able to get time off and remember your family and house are more important. Do what is required for special employment and answer your calls.
Street stop, citizens that read this informational blog, the #1 police blog in the country, and you see what your elected are doing to destroy safety and destroyed moral and you sit and do nothing? You need to band together call visit your local elected idiot and make them do away with this stupidity! They have no idea how much more they have caused mayhem to Keep going forward, or do they and want this to happen?
I thought the beat tag was for identifying us?
Why do i wear a name tag?
Why does my star /badge have a number on it?
How come my crown cap has a metal shield with my star number on it?
My squad car dose not have a special plate on it that can be tracked?
I thought all squad cars have GPS that any SGT can easily find on a computer.
Dean you might want to start doing your job and fighting stupid laws and that FOP board who sucks up cash needs to start earning their keep!
I think the state should issue cards that the gang members can wear around their neck and then issue the old transfer punches to the police. Everytime the police stop the gang member, punch his ticket. Ten punches entitles the gang member to a free drink at 7-11
This bill should be called the "Baltimore Stop Policing BIll" As Baltimoe descends into chaos, why would antoher city, teetering on the edge itself, want to replicate that disaster, where crime soars when the police can no longer do their jobs, and act only as by-standers to a surge in violent crime?
Who in their right mind would stop someone just to frisk and search. Are you dumber than you led to believe. If you are stupid enough not to do a Cc or traffic atop card, then you are stupid. As far as receipt go, you already hand them out moron. In the form of tickets if you don't than its also on your stupidity. If I decide to stop you, your either gonna a) get arrested, or b) get a shit load of tix and your car then and arrested, c) courtesy if you're decent but a traffic stop card. That's to cover yourself. If you don't do any of those, then you should fear the receipt. Because obviously you don't know what the hell you're doing
I think its funny how people are bitching and moaning about it. Oh thats right, that means you cant just do your BS stops anymore? Can't Motherfuck everyone and walk away? haha. Its 2015, time to adjust your PO-LEECE tactics. You know it is possible to be proactive and NOT an asshole at the same time. Try it fellas. That is all I have...... (exit stage left)
6/01/2015 04:39:00 PM
mike I love ya kid but when have you ever been proactive? When are you ever in branch 44? You are on a tact team and you are never in branch 44. Something tells me that your proactive police skills are lacking a bit!
Being stopped by the police is the most traumatic thing that could possibly happen to a black man, yet its ok that young black men are slaughtering each other in the streets. Hard data reveals that less police intervention equals more young black male fatalities. Yet the righteously indignant left, self proclaimed champions of minority civil rights, continue to attack the police. When will common sense prevail? When will the lies of the left be exposed and finally put these regressive reprobates on the defense?
Bruce signs that bill policing is completely over! Citizens call these goofs immediately and oppose this stupidity! If you don't you get what you deserve!
Anonymous said...
Just the other day, my son told me that when he grows up he wants to be a policeman. Hearing those words should have filled me with pride knowing my son wants to follow in my footsteps. Instead, it brought me sadness because I knew I had to explain to my son why his dream of being a "hero" and helping others for a career would be a very bad decision. I admit there was a time when I shared my sons vision of what being a police officer in Chicago would be like but after over two decades of "serving" the public, I have experienced enough to know that he would be making the worst decision of his life in pursuing a career with the Chicago Police Department. The facts are just too many to list here and let's face it, we all know which way the department and city is heading. My goal is to convince him not to become a public servant. I have always encouraged him to follow his dreams but I simply cannot do it this time and it makes me sad because I take great pride in being a police officer.
6/01/2015 02:31:00 PM
I never mentioned that I was the police to my kids. I didn't want my boy doing the whole my dad's a policeman deal and he is a friendly kid that likes to yap. One day at work, my wife calls and tells me that he just started talking about me being a cop to her. He told her about having a gun and chasing bad guys and she calls me because she was surprised knowing I don't talk about police anything around them. I get home and decide to have "the talk" with him about what he knows about police and guns etc. He proceeds to tell me how he wants to chase bad guys when he grows up and I must admit my heart sank. I try to tell him all the boring stuff I can think of to make police work sound like a drag. He listened intently and looked me dead in the face and said "I still wanna be one." And I remembered my own dad and all his awkward moments of silence, trying to convince me not to be the police...and deep down I wanted to relate to my dad and I ignored him. It makes me proud that my boy wants to chase bad guys so they don't hurt people...but also sad that I want him to steer clear of this job...and that he might not just because he's following me and his grandfather. I'd still be proud of him but a nervous wreck every shift.
Just give 'em your name and why they were stopped and move on. Seems reasonable to me.
"What about... How's my driving? Bumper sticker. Can stick it next to... Driver Has No Cash. Bumper sticker."
-- 6/01/2015 12:09:00 PM
Ah, that old one on delivery trucks. "ABECO AUTOMATIC ALARM SYSTEM" with little red lightning bolts around it.
"DRIVER HAS NO CASH."
Seems to have disappeared along with the grounding chains gasoline trucks used to trail along on the pavement...
This bill should be called the "Baltimore Stop Policing BIll" As Baltimoe descends into chaos, why would antoher city, teetering on the edge itself, want to replicate that disaster, where crime soars when the police can no longer do their jobs, and act only as by-standers to a surge in violent crime?
6/02/2015 08:19:00 AM
You can do your job, you just choose not to because of the myth floating around that a certain demographic doesn't want you in their neighborhoods. The public is "Anti-police" because of PERCEIVED (whether it is or isn't is not my call) instances of police brutality. If you can do your job with out beating or killing a person for no reason (once again, what is perceived to be for no reason by the public) you will have almost no problems on the job. I would never tell you to question a life or death situation, because the answer will always be to get home at the end of the day, but don't punch a guy because he's being an ass-hole and you won't get sued. Simple.
I mean, seriously, how many Chicagoans are up in arms over CPD involved shootings?
I've always wonder of these "activist" are all connected to the gangs and are intentionally pushing for legislation to prevent us from interfering with drug sales. It's not that far fetched. Joe Columbo and his Italain American civil rights league had the same plan. He pushed the agenda that Italians were being harassed for being Italian at the same time he was one of the heads of the 5 families. It would be ashame if today's "leaders" met the same tragic end as Columbo.
6/01/2015 08:48:00 AM
Well duh!
Hahahahahaha, yeah right. You can already guess who introduced that bill.
Tell your kids not to even think about getting a job where the elected officials (scumbag politicians) can have any influence over their pension or retirement accounts. You cannot trust a thief with your future.
NUTS, I mean NUTS.
Who sponsored this bill or addendum??
The Jackie Robinson League was coached by a Chicago Police Officer, so, why are cops saying "they" still do not think anything wrong was done? They meaning, who, blacks? You are blaming the wrong people. in this case, you do not need to do proactive work becuase you are blaming the wrong people and poor people do not have money to get a good lawyer when you fuck up as usual, then curse everybody as being wrong. Stop blaming the wrong people.
" I also bring in other activity and when the next period comes, myself and my partner will be working the plain clothes car permanently. Proactive officers will always be proactive. Lazy officers will always be lazy."
6/01/2015 08:00:00 AM
You forgot to mention, "And suck holes will always be suck holes".
I can give you thirty minutes at Clybourn and Western....or would you prefer my pretty loft?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
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