Friday, September 11, 2015

More Grand Juries

  • Cook County prosecutors have been avoiding judges in the early stage of gun cases — opting to have grand juries approve their charges — to make sure the defendants are headed to trial, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned.

    In a major policy shift, State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez ordered her prosecutors to present felony gun-possession cases to grand juries about a month and a half ago. In the past, they typically brought those cases before judges in preliminary hearings.

    Grand juries and judges can both decide if probable cause exists for a defendant to go to trial. But grand juries almost always agree with prosecutors and indict the defendant, while judges are less predictable, according to officials in the state’s attorney’s office.

    The new policy sends a message to criminals that prosecutors are serious about taking gun-possession cases to trial, the officials said. Criminals don’t view the possibility of punishment in gun cases as certain or swift, they said.
You want to send a message? Look up a little thing called "Project Exile" or "FACE 5," both providing that gun crimes by prohibited persons (felons) meant 5 or more years in the Federal system, usually 1,000 miles from home, sometimes 2,000 miles away. Gun crimes dropped by almost one-third across the board - homicides, robberies, the works, in the first year alone. And both programs were (and remain) supported by the NRA and the Brady anti-gunners. You can guess who opposed it.

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34 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

And with more convictions will come the need for more prison space. So be it. That's one of the few tax hikes we actually need, in my opinion. Enough with the home-monitoring bullshit.

9/11/2015 01:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Guns are now "ham sandwiches?" Is that what I'm to understand?
The Blue Hairs are vote PC just in the name of Judge Judy. That & Angela Landsbury are their programs Ya know.
Around bed time they night cap w/Pat & Vanna watching The Wheel too.

9/11/2015 02:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More Grand Juries?

I think you need to get rid of some judges too!

9/11/2015 04:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you imagine the caterwauling if Rahm and US AG Lynch tried Project Exile?

You can't send my little angel to Kansas!
He dint doo nuttin!
Five Years!? That be more than if he killt dat N-word!

9/11/2015 04:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Democrats would rather let the blacks in the ghettoes kill each other in job lots than admit the NRA has a good idea.

9/11/2015 04:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Cook County prosecutors are just following the Second Amendment. They don't want to infringe on ones guns rights.

9/11/2015 05:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT -
The gp of R&D is out of town with Calea folks/people trying to iron out more ways to fuck the CPD. All this from the gp who IS NOT the police!

9/11/2015 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It also lock in the testimony of the witnesses, if there are any, so they can't change.

9/11/2015 06:55:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

It's a step in the right direction.

9/11/2015 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Using prelims in Cook is a way to let judges dump cases they don't like. If the Cook SAO presented all of their cases to GJ no one would waste time in prelims and almost all charges would move forward on indictments.

Cook Co is so backwards.

9/11/2015 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My guess is that the black legislative caucus has opposed any increase in sentencing. Just way too many blacks in jail. Well, as far as some parts of the south and west side are concerned, there are not enough blacks in jail.But, as far as liberals and the media are concerned, black criminals are not the problem. Fix the police and all will be well in the community.

9/11/2015 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Justice" is arbitrary and capricious. Someone with one decades-old domestic and an old .22 half-forgotten somewhere in the basement for an emergency is far more likely to get kicked to death by Anita's pointy little shoe than someone pumping God knows how many handguns onto the street to fuel the unending bloodbath -- and 27 weapons was just the batch he got caught for this time around.

As was recently reported here on SCC, the a__hole got...probation.

"[U.S. District Judge Rudolph Randa gave] probation with no jail time to a Milwaukee man charged with 55 counts of buying firearms with fake identification and dealing them without a license...

"Dontray Mills, 24, purchased a total of 27 firearms, mostly handguns, between December 2012 and April 2014 and pleaded guilty to one of the charges on April 22, 2014, after an ATF investigation. As a result of the conviction, Mills will never again be able to buy firearms legally.

"Mills, Randa said, did not come across as a typical defendant because of his good behavior since the charges and his life ambitions, which include becoming a rap musician."

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/milwaukee-man-to-be-sentenced-on-gun-fraud-charge-b99560011z1-322283481.html

Yeah, right.

"Study to become a reverend," too, and "plan to enter a community college next month," just to be on the safe side.

*

9/11/2015 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 38-2. So far every case has been indicted. Why do we even need judges anymore?

9/11/2015 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another last minute political dog and pony stunt.
It's been well over 20 yrs since Daley ordered ICE out of CC Gun Courts to do status checks of alien offenders, same applied to Sex cases. The Sanctuary Ciy is a Safe Haven for outlaws, just like Juarez. The rest of the gun toting, drive by, who you be about population seen the CC Court system as an opportunity to seek out rivals in the lobby. It's so comical to watch the CC guards oiling the revolving doors every other day.
Who drafted this statement..."The new policy sends a message to criminals..." ? I don't believe these folks care about messages. I don't believe The Sanctuary City is willing to incarcerate brown folks anymore. But the foolish media reports it anyway.

Maybe it would be more effective if the Deputy Chiefs, District Commanders and the. CC ASA's start delivering this message to the "at risk" folks personally.

9/11/2015 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That means what? judges will still throw out the cases this si Toni's county and she won't allow felon black and brown criminals to be in jail! Anita is doing this simply because she is running for another pathetic term in office how about "term limits?"

9/11/2015 10:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gangs are problem, right. Gangs are an organized criminal entity. Why no RICO cases files against them?

9/11/2015 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One judge commented in the Sun Times but wouldn't give his name and said, "It's less work for me to do". What a piece of shit. More grand jury's and less work for judges. No gives a fuck about theses judges tossing out gun cases. No one will conduct an investigation into why these judges are tossing cases. Unfucking real. Cook County courts need another Operation Greylord to straighten this shit out.

9/11/2015 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Better late than never, Anita. Besides Prickwrinkle has her former chief of staff kimberly foxx waiting in the wings to be our version of Baltimore's Mosby. Don't forget goofy John Fritchey is also ready to keep more thugs on the street. If the republicans could find another Jack O'Malley .... If we would also VOTE next election ... If FOP would stop endorsing these politicos ...

9/11/2015 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CROOK County Judges are nothing more than elected political hacks who owe their allegiance the CROOK County Democratic machine!

9/11/2015 03:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) NYC Copper takes down tennis star here is video:

http://nypost.com/2015/09/11/video-shows-aggressive-takedown-of-james-blake/

What video does not say is that "tennis star" was identified description wise as the wanted guy, and also no one is saying if the guy taken down was known to have a gun! Wrong guy OK then why is copper wrong? Did the sissy tennis boy claim he was injured? Look at how the commissioner is bowing down to this tennis star, it happens! someone is identified guy fits description,copper does not want to potentially fight does the job now is stripped before a complaint? nice job Commissioner throwing the copper right into the lions den! Lesson her is that why bother doing police work don't be next CPD copper on the media's list! Do you think gary would protect the copper if anything like that happened here?

9/11/2015 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The revruns would never allow that to happen here. It would affect their campaign contributions.

9/11/2015 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) black lies matter thug lands Yale teacher gig! 30 year old punk teaching more anti-law behavior let's keep filling skulls full of mush with more lies!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/11/black-lives-matter-activist-to-teach-special-course-at-yale-this-fall/

9/11/2015 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grand Jury doesn't mean shit in Cook County. Cook County court system just goes easy on shit head at the next level. Takes the probable cause burden off of prelim judge and ASA's.

9/11/2015 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

America needs it's own version of Devil's Island...

Can we rebuild Alcatraz?
Make it bigger and better?

Betcha we can...

Or maroon the assholes on an Aleutian fly-speck.

Can you imagine Pooky's surprise when he finds out
he's going to be cooling his heels for 10 years in Alaska?

No gym.
Forget about going in at 155 pounds and coming out a 230 pound monster.

One hour of Internet a day.
Plenty of books.
Nothing but educational and self improvement TV.

Prison loaf and water six days a week.
One real meal one day a week.

Prison should be punishment for anti-social hard heads.

10 years mandatory exile for a gun related fuck-up.
20 years mandatory exile if shots were fired during that fuck-up.
25 years if somebody was wounded. 5 additional years for each person.
Life for a life...

Watch whole urban areas get quiet when a bunch of assholes get plucked
off the game board.

"Maannn... Dude gone on the Exile tip cuz he banged off a gun
when he went up North to hit a lick..."

9/11/2015 09:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the end the judge will give them 2 years probation or or a little time in IDOC with time considered served. Cook County is a fucking joke. Too many liberal judges.

9/11/2015 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David kochsman mother gets $50,000 from states attorneys office as payout to drop charges on others since Daley nephew vaneko killed her son! Vaneko got 60 days in luxury jail wtf city council paid out 6 million to thugs who accused John Burge of bs nothing proven just gave away our money! Is this vaneko or his brother along with Patrick Daley who got 60 million from police pension funds and lost it all? No indictment no jail for this! Wow!

9/11/2015 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the guy who thinks that once someone is "locked in" after testifying at the grand jury, you are wrong. I've seen it happen any number of times that testimony is changed and no one is ever charged with perjury.

The state says the reason is because they would have to put on their whole case at the perjury trial.

My response is, so what!

9/11/2015 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anita is doing this because her election is coming up.She needs to burnish her reputation as an hard-nosed Cook County States Attorney.Nothing more,nothing less.

9/11/2015 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anita is doing this because her election is coming up.She needs to burnish her reputation as an hard-nosed Cook County States Attorney.Nothing more,nothing less.

9/11/2015 11:35:00 PM

$$$

9/12/2015 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually GArry is right on the gun crimes thing. Commit a crime with a gun, get punished

9/12/2015 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I listened to some interview of Preckwinkle's pawn Kim Fox who is running against Anita for State's Attorney. She criticized the plan because it will keep more offenders in jail. Is she insane? Where does she think these gangbangers belong? Out on the street? Maybe they should move in with her or Preckwinkle! God help us if she wins. I'm moving!

9/12/2015 04:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) NYC Copper takes down tennis star here is video:

http://nypost.com/2015/09/11/video-shows-aggressive-takedown-of-james-blake/

What video does not say is that "tennis star" was identified description wise as the wanted guy, and also no one is saying if the guy taken down was known to have a gun! Wrong guy OK then why is copper wrong? Did the sissy tennis boy claim he was injured? Look at how the commissioner is bowing down to this tennis star, it happens! someone is identified guy fits description,copper does not want to potentially fight does the job now is stripped before a complaint? nice job Commissioner throwing the copper right into the lions den! Lesson her is that why bother doing police work don't be next CPD copper on the media's list! Do you think gary would protect the copper if anything like that happened here?

9/11/2015 04:22:00 PM

Go tell this to all of the know it alls who think "oh if you do your job by the book then the department has to support you". Sure they will support you- by throwing you under the bus. Notice how the bosses and politicians throw one officer after another under the bus as soon as the media artificially creates a firestorm of negative publicity. You are 110% right. Do your job as in respond to your calls and hand out RD numbers.

9/12/2015 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Anita was not going into a heated election cycle this would not be done, she is looking to stand out from the pack, how about term limits that is what is really needed here and needed NOW!

9/12/2015 06:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two positives may come from this: PC on all cases and the public will hear how bad it is in real life. Whether the juries actually listen is a different matter.

9/13/2015 01:01:00 PM  

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