What's All This?
- The victim was identified as Joseph Graves, 19, of the 8400 block of South Green Street in Chicago, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.
Graves, who was killed Friday night in the 700 block of West 92nd Street, was one of 13 people shot in Chicago since mid-afternoon Friday, including six shot in a two-hour period early Saturday.
- A 5-year-old boy and three other people were injured Saturday in separate shootings on the city's South and West sides.
- Five people were seriously hurt Saturday in Englewood when a stolen car fleeing the police crashed into a van, the police said.
It happened around 5:45 p.m. when the car ran a stop sign and hit a van with eight people inside at 71st Street and Carpenter Avenue, according to the police.
When police caught up with the fleeing felons and attempted to put them under arrests while summoning and rendering aid to the eight other injured parties, do you think the neighborhood turned out to assist? Or even just gawk? Nope. They began to bottle and brick the police and squad cars, necessitating a rather large call-out of manpower.
Even more strangely, not a word of this attack on the police by the bystanders made it to either major newspaper. Why is that do you suppose?
Even more strangely, not a word of this attack on the police by the bystanders made it to either major newspaper. Why is that do you suppose?
Labels: crime, un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:41 AM
96 Comments:
Why the fuck are the police chasing anyone these days? DOJ just got their first case gift wrapped for them.
Obviously the chasing officers didn't get the hint that the cpd is slowing down for a few weeks. Scabs.. Stop doing work Rangers!!! I'm gonna start posting the arresting beat every night of coppers who are still making pro active non signed complaint arrests. Stop doing anything you idiots. You can't follow that simple rule for the next two or three months???? You have a whole career to do the police work, take a few months off kids..
Why the F@!# still chasing stolen cars what's wrong with u all don't u get it no one f" cares!!!
I think that the police should just pull out of 007 all together .
Let's see what they complain about then.
Let this be a lesson for the CPD rank and file. Bad things happen when coppers are not fetal. Could this near riot have been avoided if the responding cops had of been more fetal?
No big deal. Welcome to Chenglewood.
The 1st report in the paper just reported the accident. Of course they had to update it to say the car was being chased by the Police. I can smell the lawyers already. I mean, come on now you know you are not suppose to chase so it must be your fault.
Hang in there guys and gals....stay safe and fetal.
And channel 7 repeatedly referred to it as a VIOLENT CRASH.
They'll do anything to fan the flames, anything at all...
"Duty To Retreat/De-Escalate."
Will become law.
And inserted into the Use of Force Paradigm.
As we relished telling hard heads...
"M/Fer! This is a lawful POLICE ORDER,
not a Muthafuckin' request! You WILL
COMPLY!"
Absolutely hating this nonsense of Policemen and
Policing being driven into a corner.
And the people and folks who rejoice in it.
If only they used their ample energy and
funded resources to drive Dude Inc. into a
corner in the same manner Policemen have.
What will be the toll exacted by the armed wing of the
Catered-To-Constituency (Dude Inc.) this weekend?
The Police are the problem eh?
Viva Hate.
Continue to Police like you have no friends...
Protect yourselves, each other, your family and friends only.
Society has rejected you and your collective sacrifice...
The self-same sacrifice that the joyful haters love to say
is no big deal because it isn't THEM sacrificing time and
good years off their lives trying to Police the thoroughly
Un-Policeable that is Chicago.
However imperfectly and sometimes unartfully
it's done.
It's Police Work after all.
Sometimes it's horrible, nasty,
ugly, ghastly and defies all attempts
to make it conform to a shit-assed,
politically correct narrative.
It wasnt reported because of the mainstream media who is liberally biased. If people dont know that by now then they dont care enough about the real truth in America
This would be the time to release the Body Camera and Dash Camera footage. Show the people of Chitcago just what kind of Zoo the CPD has to clean the cages
One person from the crash in the police chase for a STOLEN CAR(against general orders to chase for) has since died. Guys and girls... Remember everything in the media over the past three weeks?? Work slow down!! Don't do a damn thing! You go out and do proactive work and this is now the spot you are in... In a time where everything we do is seen as a "conspiracy" or "collusion" to cover stuff up I hope you didn't pull the lame "I was just following" garbage. Don't do it. If you refused to abide by the work slowdown everyone has been preaching for the past week or two maybe you will now pay attention because you now have years of civil wrangling in federal court to deal with, negative press, civil lawyers, depositions, IAD investigations, traffic review board crap and the inevitable suspension for chasing a hot car which is a no no. You do pro active work and this is what happens. Think and use your head and lay low for a few months.. If you wanna work wait till the summer till this all calms down, until then just relax and hibernate till this storm passes..
Cause that doesn't fit the media's bias and agenda.
So why chase a stolen van? It's property. Let it go.
"...not a word of this attack on the police by the bystanders made it to either major newspaper. Why is that do you suppose?" -- SCC
Because it's not news. Now, an "attack on the bystanders by the police," that would be around the world in three seconds.
WBBM radio -- "All LaQuan, all the time" -- has no problem with vague stories about how "the city is bracing for violence" and how "warm weather brings people out onto the streets, and that creates the threat of bloodshed."
You know. Like along the Riviera. "Vo-o-la-re..."
We'd better close those beaches, huh?
"What's all this?" Really, sir. Etiquette requires that one unass the car, walk up on the wildest scene -- half-naked people rolling out barrels marked "XXX," moon rockets going up, winged alligators chasing panicked goats-on-roller-skates -- sharply tap one's swagger stick, and inquire in a brisk, no-nonsense tone--
"What's all this, then?"
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Why would you chase a care over there at this point in time? Why not just let them do what they do? Are you fools? That was a rhetorical question, because you clearly do not understand what is going on all around you. That is precisely the neighborhood where you take no action whatsoever if you want to make a difference. Some fools will never learn.
Q. "Not a word of this attack on the police by the bystanders made it to either major newspaper. Why is that, do you suppose?"
A. Because it is perfectly alright to throw rocks and bottles at the police. You can snatch their radios and phones, grab their bikes away, put a powerful bullhorn an inch from their face and blow their eardrums out, Anything you like. Nothing will happen to you.
Punch them in the head -- on camera -- and the State's Attorney will let you go "for the good of the city."
Hell, dive into a squad car window and wrestle them for their service weapon. Even if it doesn't go quite as planned, a bronze memorial plaque designating you a great guy, a hero, and a martyr will be embedded in the sidewalk, right at the very spot.
It is NOT alright, however, to throw rocks at an ALDERMAN'S house.
3 in custody after rocks thrown at Ald. Cardenas' home on West Side
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1176757/three-people-custody-protest-west-side
I hope that clears this up.
Which idiot cop is chasing some car?? Really?? In Englewood? Please punch yourself in the eye, so Malcolm The Poet doesn't have to.
Let me guess---the press has forgotten about reporting all the news. They only want to report the news that follows their own liberal agenda
There is an agenda with the media and with many of the protestors. Incidents like this do not fit into that agenda.
Those poets will get off easy, Anita will not prosecute for the good of the city.
Why chase anything. This is what they want, so let it go.
Why is anybody working !?! Fuck that stolen car and its occupants. News flash .... no one cares anymore!!! The titanic is sinking and the people still not reading between the lines and still playing police will be the first to drown. I understand that some police still want to work, but here's the reason why you shouldn't. The pursuing officers will probably get sued and opened up to more scrutiny by our department. Any violation of the vehicle pursuit order will result in a hefty suspension. Now, the other thing, numerous thugs throwing bricks and bottles at police personnel on scene. Someone could get injured or even killed if hit with one of those objects , then the police have to put hands on someone to affect an arrest. Guess what !?! No one gives a fuck if you had bottles and bricks thrown at you , all they care about is that you had to kick booman's ass to get him to go to jail. Then , your faces are now on the news and you could be facing criminal charges or losing your livelihood . It's not worth it. Please don't get caught up in this shit storm for pride.It's not worth it anymore. Give these ungrateful cock suckers the police department they want. Collect your check and be stress free.
Who gives a **ck about a stolen vehicle? Why chase it? Charges end up being misdemeanors, and now coppers dealing with shit for years. They don't want police, don't go there. A chase over a property crime? Unless some mutt shoots one of my family members in front of me, I'm not chasing anyone. This is a new world, and we police are the cockroaches.
Ah, it's just another video to hide, for election purposes. There's always another election. What the Royals don't understand is, the participants would watch the video with glee, "Look Mammy, that's me throwing that wine bottle at the po-po!"
The media only reports what sells. Police officers under attack does not fit their agenda. How many of the bottle and rock throwers were arrested?
Why are the police chasing a stolen van in the first place? Don't you know that is a moving art installation and the people in that van are expressing themselves. You must look past their saggy pants and into their SOUL.
Will we become like Europe? There are places in England and France where the Police must ask permission to enter. Areas dominated by Sharia Law. Will Chicago have such places? Areas dominated by the Justice and Culture of the Gangs? This may have sounded far-fetched 20 yrs. ago but it is reality in Europe today, and may become reality in Chicago tomorrow. If it occurs, look at the Bright Side, the crime stats for that area would not be included in the regular crime stats, so it would be a Win for Compstat. "G"
De-Police GUYS! Stay Fetal!
It's always the police fault no matter what!
So to hell with these people!
Where's Father Phaker, and Jesse Jackass to talk about how their peoples act at a crime scene and police trying to help the injured!
Crazy. Bottle and bricks. Can you imagine doing this. Fucking animals. Please stick to protecting non ghetto areas. If you arrest the assholes breaking into my garage on the north side you don't get bottles but rather a nice letter to your boss thanking him for your help and I'll buy you coffee at Starbucks any time I get the chance. Ungrateful ghetto scum bags.
goes to show you that the news media really doesn't want to hear anything positive regarding the police and won't most definitely print anything negative about the black community attacking the police, the media is really distraught that the city is not going up for grabs. But as the police we still need to do our jobs and I'm sure that the command staff is already looking into why there was another stolen car chase. Officers please remain vigilant and I realize that it is very hard not to do your jobs but we really need to evaluate and think prior to acting out. just go to work on time, look sharp and don't give your supervisors a reason to make you look NEGATIVE. Times will most likely be coming soon and the days of cowboys are over.
just give them the minimum period. Stay Safe and Merry Christmas. PS. No matter how you feel or think, please remember those officers less fortunate during the holiday season, a small donation and a card left in the mailbox at Jeffery Van Dykes can really help out his family.
Guess people don't wanna slow down....now vehicle pursuit ends with alot of injuries and one death ( per news ). Lawsuit for sure to follow. For what? 3 psmv juveniles. Wake the f' UP!!!
Where is the video? You can't go anywhere without people filming the police. I am sure that the new body cameras would have made everything better. Maybe I should go out to the west side to protest the violence today just after church lets out. Be safe out there.
My heart breaks for the police officers of this city and all over this country. It is quite obvious that the general public views the CPD as evil doers thanks to the liberal media, who each and every day make it a point to omit reporting any criminal acts against the police. It is quite amazing that the criminal element of this city, and the store front ministers now dictate how this city will be controlled.
To all police officers....may you stay safe and free from the low life parasites who now run our city.
Who are the idiots doing proactive police work?
If the police didn't do shit they would not have been attacked but they keep on working. chasing stolen cars with an unmarked car no-no #1. People injured one dead = more lawsuits against city and officers. So much for staying fetal. Some will never learn.
Sue your alderman and bishop!
No protests from the revs? the main stream anti-police media covering this? Heard on radio granny carol marin is retiring finally, bye no loss to good people of this city! rahm is having his festival of course taxpayers paying for it, Chicago Rising hmm rahm no money we are broke correct? Will you and the 50 have pockets stuffed with green like a stuffed pita?
Interesting. My wife and I were watching the news and the reporter from the scene said that 11 ambulances and 50 officers responded. I said to her, "Not likely." now it makes sense.
I'm pretty sure (NBC. I think) reported it like the police started to chase the stolen vehicle, but then gave up for some reason...almost like the police got lazy or they just don't care about catching bad guys. No matter what happens, the media will make sure to convey police = wrong.
WTF?!?!?!? Seriously guys a fucking stolen car in englewood who fucking cares why would you guys put yourselves in harms way these people hate the police did you really think it was worth it or that the outcome would be positive you guys working out there just don't fucking get it! Well you probably very well have a lawsuit in your hands as well! Leave the streets alone this is no time for proactive policing especially in fucking englewood! STOP!
Here's a Crime Fighting technique which though is effective, is rarely used: ......
Burglary suspect hides in Florida lake, gator eats him
'A suspected burglar jumped in a Florida lake apparently hiding from law enforcement before an 11-foot alligator killed him, investigators said Monday. His hand and foot reportedly turned up inside the animal's stomach.
Brevard County Sheriff's Maj. Tod Goodyear says 22-year-old Matthew Riggins told his girlfriend he would be in Barefoot Bay to commit burglaries with another suspect. Authorities received calls Nov. 13 about two suspicious men in black walking behind homes and investigated. Riggins was reported missing the next day.
Goodyear said sheriff's divers recovered Riggins' body 10 days later in a nearby lake, and that the injuries suggested the alligator had pulled him below the surface. "He hid in the wrong place," resident Laura Farris... '
(continued at link -- Fox News)
I laughed my ass off when I read this yesterday. It's too bad we don't have alligators around here to help 'take a bite out of crime'. BUT!!...all may not be lost, when that Global Warming/Climate Change kicks in Illinois will have a Florida climate --- and ALLIGATORS :-)
Why do you even police the ghetto anymore? I'm on the northwest side and we appreciate the police here. In the ghetto take reports and do nothing. Fuck them.
Dog bites man- no news, man bites dog- headlines!
my question is WHY are these coppers chasing these shitheads anyway? let em go, let em go, let em go....
Officer's need not bother shooting thugs.
They're doing a good job on their own.
Let them be; save yourself. Fk the gangsters.
Stop making traffic stops!
STOP CHASING CARS!!!
Why risk it?
Do you want to get fired?
DO YOU WANT TO GO TO PRISON???
Why chase anyone in the first place? You catch them you will be wrong, they crash you will be wrong! Anything that happens you will be wrong! Not worth my health or career. "Here is your report have a great day"
From a troll: Hey, the hell with these people. The van was probably stolen and carrying a burglary crew or a wilding party on their way downtown. NOTICE to the media: most people in this city do not care about shootings. Thats right, MOST people. Forget it already. We are Detroit. It started there in the neigborhoods of the government uneducated, improverished and unemployed people living a life of subsistance government handouts and stealing what they could from others. The people who could left the shitty neighborhoods and moved to Southfield and other suburbs and prospered with othe like minded people of all races. As Detroit continued to deteriorate, they moved downtown. Once there, businesses left because the crime spiked and the corrupt city governement did nothing but capituate to the hoards. When the businesses left because they could, the corrupt government stole the federal aid meant for the poor people of Detroit. When Kuwame and his cronies were indicted, Detroit went from about 1.8 mil people to about 600,000 or so today. Someone explain to me how Chicago differs. Rest in peace Neil Wells. I think about you often and such a waste. A guy who believed he could make the difference.
Slow down everyone.....why are you chasing a bullshit hot car? Wtf. Now you are F'-ed.....cr#, pending lawsuit for sure....for what a psmv arrest? Seriously...use your head!
Nothing you do will ever be right. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you stood in the middle of the street, and passed out hundred dollar bills, you'd be offending someone. Then that person would be on tv, front page of the paper screaming how awful a person you are.
Take care of yourself and each other. No one else is going to do it. Good luck guys and girls, glad I'm not there.
J.J.
"Five people were seriously hurt Saturday in Englewood when a stolen car fleeing the police crashed into a van..."
...but the whole story is that "in all, 13 people were taken to the hospital after the crash, which dispatched 11 ambulances and more than 50 personnel to the scene.
...so the whole manpower was, what, 120 or something? Not counting hospital staffs.
"Five people were listed in serious-to-critical condition, four people were fair-to-serious and four others were in good condition" -- anyone want to total up the bill on this?
So here is the "911 overload that the south and west sides 'experience.'" I like the way they put that in the passive tense. PEOPLE IN THESE AREAS CAUSE THE OVERLOAD.
...and then are the first ones to point and scream "WHERE THE MOTHER____ING AMLANCE! DO YO JOB!"
The rocks and bottles are just a cultural difference, their way of saying "Thank You."
Right?
Rule -- You can never satisfy the insatiable.
Rule -- The more you do for some people, they more they hate you for it.
All so they never have to look at themselves.
Why bother being a pro active officer, pay is the same for writing a report and telling 'em to get a summons's.
No mention of the bottle & rock throwers at police, BUT... there was a NewsFlash on WBBM about a group of thug protesters walking along 26th St throwing rocks and things at AlderWeakman Cardenas' house. Guessing he called police and the Real Police responded and arrested three. There's a YouTube of the CPD response.
This is what SunTimes printed that the Alderman said, "My family was startled and scared...I work very hard to maintain law and order...".
Oh, and no thanks to the multitude of responding officers was mentioned. Just doing their job I guess.
Now is there a car detailed to his house 24/7 ?
Arresting three thug protesters that quick ? This sort of action needs to stop.
Stop being the Real Police until the City Hall blaming, backstabbing, lying, tearful speeches and the 2nd class treatment ceases.
Please wake up and Preserve the Disorder in these areas.
There was no attack on the poleeces, they were just recycling and cleaning up the hood.
The sad part of the whole thing is you have some moron chasing a hot car which is against is forbidden by the department, ends in a crash where people are injured. How many other good coppers are going to drag into this mess and disciplined.
Ummm..SCC...at least one dead in that crash..maybe you should update this story before those officers get stripped and fired. Enjoy call back guys.
Punch [officers] in the head -- on camera -- and the State's Attorney will let you go "for the good of the city."
12/13/2015 06:22:00 AM
"Give them room to destroy." -- Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake
"For the good of the city." -- State's Attorney Anita Alvarez
Looking like "Here today, gone tomorrow" in both cases...
Areas dominated by Sharia Law...look at the Bright Side, the crime stats for that area would not be included in the regular crime stats, so it would be a Win for Compstat. "G"
12/13/2015 08:08:00 AM
...and even better, the stats would only be compiled in Arabic!
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It's simple, don't engage in car chases, even low speed ones. In case of intersection wrecks, or car wrecks in general, don't arrive at the scene to soon. Give things a chance to cool down. Above all stay fetal.
Chicago has become a prime example of Obama's fundamental change. Soon all of America will be the same. Hillary will take over where O left off.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If the police didn't do shit they would not have been attacked but they keep on working. chasing stolen cars with an unmarked car no-no #1. People injured one dead = more lawsuits against city and officers. So much for staying fetal. Some will never learn.
12/13/2015 09:43:00 Am
true! What is wrong you coppers? are you skulls full of mush? Or just plain and simply stupid? Did the boss say "go get em boys?" Or are you just wanting Cr numbers, investigations of your dimwit brains? If its not police calling for help, why bother? what if you got into accident of innocents were killed due to your negligence chasing thugs? You guessed it we have no none nada indemnification from civil suits! Can you say bye pension, money,bank account,family job?? possibly your freedom for doing stupid things like chasing?? Fetal, the FBI director even said the Ferguson affect is causing us to be fetal, unless your a dumbass!
Just saw something that FOP talked DOJ about letting us keep our contract in tacted. I hope they null and void it! That means 2 things we can strike and we can move out of the city.
I left a comment one one of the news sites and they contacted me. They said they called news affair and that was not in the report. WTF.
Whoever works with these idiot cops needs to call them out.
12/13/2015 02:18:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
One person from the crash in the police chase for a STOLEN CAR(against general orders to chase for) has since died. Guys and girls... Remember everything in the media over the past three weeks?? Work slow down!! Don't do a damn thing! You go out and do proactive work and this is now the spot you are in... In a time where everything we do is seen as a "conspiracy" or "collusion" to cover stuff up I hope you didn't pull the lame "I was just following" garbage. Don't do it. If you refused to abide by the work slowdown everyone has been preaching for the past week or two maybe you will now pay attention because you now have years of civil wrangling in federal court to deal with, negative press, civil lawyers, depositions, IAD investigations, traffic review board crap and the inevitable suspension for chasing a hot car which is a no no. You do pro active work and this is what happens. Think and use your head and lay low for a few months.. If you wanna work wait till the summer till this all calms down, until then just relax and hibernate till this storm passes..
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The idiots on this job will never listen or stick together. It's a slow down for a few months, not an entire career... You can go back to the one bag dope pinches in a few months.. Law down for now
I'm suprised that police officers are wondering why the media didn't report the whole story on the car chase. The media are out to make news by screwing over cops. Quit being suprised, and use your head. Oh I forgot, unmarked, chasing,for property, have fun in court.
You should see the arrest reports these coppers are bringing in, in 007. They haven't gotten the message or just don't care because they are all still doing proactive police arrests. The scary thing is, they are all no time on the job officers and don't know what they are doing. They all really need to pick up a law book and read it and understand what probable cause is and search and seizure is. And their supervisors, for get it, they for the most part don't know what they are doing either. Just ask Sgt. Tool if a agg assault with a firearm to a citizen is a felony or misdemeanor? He also approves inventories for his guys for perishable foods. That's merit for you.And some of the supervisors on tact still think it's the oldtimes, still doing stupid things, like bending the laws and rules to gain probable cause for arrest or search and seizure, cutting corners to avoid getting search warrants signed and completed. If you are stupid enough to still be doing proactive police work in this climate at least know what you are doing or ask someone who does and make sure they are telling you the right thing. If you don't see it in print, it's not the right way then. If a supervisor tells you to do something that is illegal, you better refuse and report it. The Feds are here all ready boys and girls, smartin up or you are going to be the next headline in the news. You will be holding your head in a jail cell or call back and saying to yourself "I should have listened."
Rham if, NO I MEAN when you read this topic WAKE UP.THIS CITY NEEDS STRONG LEADERSHIP.If you can't do it step aside and let someone who can and really cares, take over. More at stake here then an overgrown ego. Signed : VERY CONCERNED CITIZEN
I won't argue whether they're right or wrong, but coppers in fast districts aren't going to lay down because of the comments section on the blog. It used to be citizens second guessed us but we stuck together. Now I come on here and all I read is Monday morning quarterbacking and shit talking the officers who had the misfortune to be part of a bad situation. If you hear about a tragedy like this and your first thought is to blame the officers, take a good hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if you should be the police.
Just an fyi to the let the city burn folks, there is police and family of police in every district in this city. Some of us are lucky enough to be untouched by the bullshit and some are not.
Throwing bottles at cops because you like them is reminiscent of that bar scene in The Blue Brothers where the hillbillies were whipping beer bottles at the chicken wire in front of the stage...
Except this isn't a movie. It's real life, it's serious, and someone can get killed or maimed with that nonsense.
Three choices:
1) Behave like humans when morons are being arrested. Watch if you want, video if you want, but no throwing of objects, no screaming or yelling, no blocking the police or ambulance.
2) Cops arrest EVERY asshole throwing something - put them all in jail. Call it mob action, file some kind of RICO action against the shitheads if they're all in the same gang, etc. Toss them all in jail for 90 days for that crap.
3) Just don't go. Forget the calls. Show up and take the report after they're all dead. Let the coroner clean it up. Don't even send ambulances. Give the assholes in those neighborhoods what they want.
Give them those 3 choices on television - show the video of the natives throwing things at the cops when the cops are trying to help. Put it on every blog/facebook you can so the Lamestream Media has to show it...
Enough with this nonsense.
I thought about chasing a stolen car once.
Get ready for huge punitive damages in federal court. Whoever initiated this chase, prepare for the impending headache. Its clear as day what the public expects of us. Chasing a stolen car just for being stolen... sorry to say but incredibly stupid. Administrative, civil , and in this climate maybe even criminal problems for these officers. Sad but true
What ever happened to the guy who drove drunk through the scene during the MAUI investigation?
Z13 had a pursuit this morning. I don't mind working but please stop the traffic pursuits...
In a sane universe, rocks, bottles, ball bats, hammers, etc. would be recognized as the deadly weapons they "can" be. Police would have every right to defend themselves. But that's in a sane universe. Probably one without diversity.
J.J.
Soon only federal law enforcement will have trust and acceptance by the people. In most places, and in all large cities local law enforcement will fade away. Some rural areas will retain county sheriffs. County sheriffs and deputies are popular in many low population rural areas. Feds are looked upon with suspicion in those same areas.
The supervisors are going to pay the price for this one.
So where will rahm get the money for this?
I'd like to personally thank those brave and valiant Officers for their pursuit of a CTTV! YOU are a shining example to us all!
P.S.
Please let us know how fast and far the D.O.J. sticks their probe in your ass!
Again, THANKS for the excellent work!
And Why are you chasing a stolen van?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
One person from the crash in the police chase for a STOLEN CAR(against general orders to chase for) has since died. Guys and girls... Remember everything in the media over the past three weeks?? Work slow down!! Don't do a damn thing! You go out and do proactive work and this is now the spot you are in... In a time where everything we do is seen as a "conspiracy" or "collusion" to cover stuff up I hope you didn't pull the lame "I was just following" garbage. Don't do it. If you refused to abide by the work slowdown everyone has been preaching for the past week or two maybe you will now pay attention because you now have years of civil wrangling in federal court to deal with, negative press, civil lawyers, depositions, IAD investigations, traffic review board crap and the inevitable suspension for chasing a hot car which is a no no. You do pro active work and this is what happens. Think and use your head and lay low for a few months.. If you wanna work wait till the summer till this all calms down, until then just relax and hibernate till this storm passes..
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First off these coppers will be fine, maybe take a day or two but that's about it. Yes, they will have to deal with iAd and the civil suit but oh well it happens. They offenders caused this, these coppers are just gonna have to deal with the headache of it all and the bs civil system for violating dept policy... Not a huge deal but a headache... But guys, abide by the work slowdown and this would have never happened... Not Monday mornin quarterbacking but there aren't many people in your corner feeling bad for ya since you scabbed yourself out with proactive work for the bosses
Stay unproductive. Why would you risk yourself and other p.o' s, emergency equipment and personal to be brought to a scene of savagery? These pieces of shit will once again be sought out by some white lawyer who will march them to the c.c. and get a hefty paycheck. Why continue to serve these assholes? Let them handle their own crime. Answer your calls only. Go home safely to your families who love and appreciate you. This mayor has made it quite apparent you are not going to be appreciated for your service, but rather put through a living hell which will ultimately put your loved one through that same hell. He and every politician in this city is ready to throw you under the bus for the black vote.
Family Guy sunday Dec 13th hahaha had this covered... to quote Cleveland "to get rid of media attention, just mention black on black crime"
Command changes!
In California thug with gun aims at police gets shot dead, justified community is outraged!
http://wgntv.com/2015/12/13/video-catches-two-la-deputies-fatally-shooting-man-as-he-walked-away/
Wtf is going on in America, are there more thugs and felons than taxpayers? Don't shoot your gun,turn on police this is a .45 cal this thug had yes Libs this is a deadly weapon!!! #bluelivesmatter #gohomesamewayyoustartedtourclub
First off these coppers will be fine, maybe take a day or two but that's about it. Yes, they will have to deal with iAd and the civil suit but oh well it happens. They offenders caused this, these coppers are just gonna have to deal with the headache of it all and the bs civil system for violating dept policy... Not a huge deal but a headache... But guys, abide by the work slowdown and this would have never happened... Not Monday mornin quarterbacking but there aren't many people in your corner feeling bad
for ya since you scabbed yourself out with proactive work for the bosses
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Not a huge deal? I think losing your house and having your wages garnished is pretty significant. Dirksen building is no joke especially when department policy was violated. Those involved should be shitting their pants
LMAO@ 06:35.
Anonymous said...
I won't argue whether they're right or wrong, but coppers in fast districts aren't going to lay down because of the comments section on the blog. It used to be citizens second guessed us but we stuck together. Now I come on here and all I read is Monday morning quarterbacking and shit talking the officers who had the misfortune to be part of a bad situation. If you hear about a tragedy like this and your first thought is to blame the officers, take a good hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if you should be the police.
12/13/2015 02:51:00 PM
They didn't have "the misfortune to be part of a bad situation." THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN THE BAD SITUATION. And they did so by knowingly violating the pursuit order. You don't have to argue whether they were right or wrong. They were wrong. I'm no fan of the pursuit policy, but I'm smart enough to realize it exists, and abide by it. If you look at this situation and don't blame the police for the situation they put themselves in, you won't be the police for long anyway, so you won't have to worry about looking at yourself in the mirror and wondering. Get a fucking clue already. Violating orders is violating orders. They've been written to put all of the blame on you when shit goes wrong. You can flex your "working police" and "real police" muscles all you want, but you're still gonna get fucked in the ass with suspensions, lawsuits, etc. Then you'll try to shift the blame to any and everyone you can, all while knowing YOU were the one who fucked up. You'll whine about how no one has your back, how your supervisors hung you out to dry, how you did the right thing, and you'll cry and beg at your benefit, expecting the rest of us to bail your dumb ass out. We've seen it all before, and we're losing the ability to give a fuck when you deliberately step on your own dick. Smarten up and protect yourself.
First off these coppers will be fine, maybe take a day or two but that's about it. Yes, they will have to deal with iAd and the civil suit but oh well it happens. They offenders caused this, these coppers are just gonna have to deal with the headache of it all and the bs civil system for violating dept policy... Not a huge deal but a headache... But guys, abide by the work slowdown and this would have never happened... Not Monday mornin quarterbacking but there aren't many people in your corner feeling bad for ya since you scabbed yourself out with proactive work for the bosses
12/13/2015 08:49:00 PM
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The balancing test comes from state law. The department dumbed down the state law into policy for people like you.
There are at least four criminal charges that I can think of, without even trying.
I hope that you are not a police officer. If you are one, then have some pride and learn about the job.
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Not a huge deal? I think losing your house and having your wages garnished is pretty significant. Dirksen building is no joke especially when department policy was violated. Those involved should be shitting their pants
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They were still acting properly under the law which is why they will be covered. They broke department rules, not state laws. You can legally chase for anything. Policy gets guys jammed up. They will take time and the city will pay out. Even if punitive is awarded initially it will be ruled out on appeal.. They acted within the law. Compensatory damages will be big for sure
"When police caught up with the fleeing felons and attempted to put them under arrests while summoning and rendering aid to the eight other injured parties, do you think the neighborhood turned out to assist? Or even just gawk? Nope. They began to bottle and brick the police and squad cars, necessitating a rather large call-out of manpower.
"Even more strangely, not a word of this attack on the police by the bystanders made it to either major newspaper. Why is that do you suppose?"
Sounds like a Muslim no-go zone. This is exactly what happens in Europe.
They were still acting properly under the law which is why they will be covered. They broke department rules, not state laws. You can legally chase for anything. Policy gets guys jammed up. They will take time and the city will pay out. Even if punitive is awarded initially it will be ruled out on appeal.. They acted within the law. Compensatory damages will be big for sure
12/15/2015 12:02:00 AM
You don't have to break state laws to be found civilly liable. You can't legally chase for anything. Breaking department rules sometimes also means breaking state laws. What do you mean by "they will be covered?" The department won't cover them for violating policy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just saw something that FOP talked DOJ about letting us keep our contract in tacted. I hope they null and void it! That means 2 things we can strike and we can move out of the city.
12/13/2015 01:37:00
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SORRY it's still part of state law. As long as we taxes they will never let us go.
I wonder what would happen if the police were pulled out of these "unpoliceable" areas? Would the surviving residents FINALLY figure out it's "their own"--NOT the police--causing the vast majority of the problems??
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