High Powered?
Here are some of the guns the State Police captured on the highways:
A great job by the Troopers, but we know that they don't write the headlines.
From one of our comments:
From one of our comments:
- That high powered assault rifle is a Mossberg 22 that you can pick up at your nearest Cabella's....
All that loose ammo at the bottom of the picture? .22 LR. Compare that to what most cops carry nowadays:
Will it ruin your day? Sure. Can it kill you? Of course, High powered? Not really. But it looks like a scary black "assault rifle" so you know the media is going to run with it to further an agenda.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:34 AM
69 Comments:
i don't think these idiots know anything about guns ; so the appearance of the gun scares them. Don't discriminate against black guns BLACK GUNS MATTER! BGM
Ah yes the three biggest ghetto guns... The "choppa" which of course just looks cool but nobody on the street or YouTube videos can tell it's only a 22, the bursa 380 and the biggest ghetto gun of them all a hi-point. Good work state good to see somebody still works, the lazy mopes on this job are the worst
Great Zombie killing gun all you need is one shot to the head.
I am not one bit impressed. These are not the weapons of serious gang banger's and thugs.
Wait Richard Flair lying and over promoting? He has done that his whole career. Why stop now?
SCC,
Thanks for the accurate description. It amazes me everyday how the media is either knowing or most likely unknowing turned into a propaganda tool by not doing ANY research or fact checking before publishing these days
How nice trying to make the city look safe lol !! These rocket scientist are something else . Chicago is the worst place to live in .
I wonder if Leo tried to make it look meaner?
More importantly, can someone find out why ISPeeved has not posted since November? WTF? I enjoy that site. You guys are as fucked as we are.
It has a bayonet lug. I can feel the vapors overwhelming me.
Little Joe Ward
'Reporter/Producer' needs to stick to carrying bags for band members instead of comparing BB guns to real sporting arms, which he knows nothing of.
Joe, Now Go Home And Get Your F**king Shinebox and work on your reviews of wine at NPR.
"Fun fact: Ever since receiving that Rolling Stone subscription, Joe has been an avid and dedicated music fan. He worked as an intern for WXRT, where he got to carry equipment for and meet David Byrne, and also worked as an apprentice to Greg Kot, Chicago Tribune music critic and NPR host."
I disagree. No way media would report the rifle as being "black"...merely a 18-24 inch long, 5-10 years old, using .22 long rounds. Any info call police.
To the commenters describing that ar platform as "high powered"....
either you are an ignorant non-gun owner, or easy-brainwashed.
In either case, you are doing the anti's dirty work for them.
please don't do that.
Additionally, it's not an "assault" rifle either. Is it full auto? No, it isn't. It is merely a semi-automatic rifle.....period.
We were told at our saturation "roll call" start doing isr's or we would be sent back to our districts and replaced. Our SGTs are shitting in their pants and trying to make us do them. Horrible leadership. Guess im going back
Ha, love ISP, but those guns came off of one stop. Leo don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Lets see if they get filings and pass muster at a motion to throw out the search. Not like writing a ticket or tc report. IN any case if convicted they will get sent home on Tom Dart OR complete with an ankle monitor nobody pays attention to
Where are the bangers getting .22 LR, that stuff is tough to come by!
I have seen the damage a 22 LR mag can do. A very dangerous and accurate weapon in the hands of someone who knows. And, very quiet. But, not to worry. When the democrats take over the White House and stack the Supreme Court, it will be the end of the 2nd amendment as we know it. Nancy Pelosi will be in charge of confiscating all privately owned firearms. Just like Australia.
"High power" can mean many different types of ammo. There are high powered .22 magnums with customized noses that can go very fast with a heavy kick. I just think it's funny that they spent so much resources and achieved so little. What were the people charged with? If some farmer from indiana just got his firearm taken, that shouldn't count. Just saying...
Serves the media "false narrative" as usual but on the plus side finally some good press! Then look at today's sun-times and the story about how police stops are down another fallen star series that will go on to infinity with the liberal press! The mayor was just on news radio talking about supporting good coppers, ahh mayor all coppers are good, maybe look at replacing the president to Republican possibly trump at least he is pro-police correct? mayor the old saying "a fish stinks from the head down" applies here! From your friend Barry all the way to your aldermen and elected in the corrupt state of Illinois have caused this!
Mayor question for you? When the heat is in full swing and blood in running everywhere will you admit it is because of people like you? liberalism is a mental disease look around mayor open your eyes!
Sun-Times is reporting that Escalade is claiming he straightened out all of the police officers and they are back to making street stops!
I hope that this is not true. If it is true you are a chump and a fool. Yea, the department has your back!
Tell that to you kids when you get sued and have to put them in public school and move in grandmas basement cause you just got fired!
Those guns were taken off gang members, the ISP doesn't write the headlines. People are more likely to read on if it says "high powered" as opposed to ".22 rifle." We know that we aren't going to stop the E-way shootings but we are just trying to slow it down. The guys volunteered to come and help the Chicago troopers, because like every other ISP district and CPD, we are undermanned. The budget battle in Springfield has caused no academy classes to be put through but we still have retirements. All we are trying to do is help each other out. Nothing will change until a relative of one of our beloved politicians is driving down the E-way and gets caught in the crossfire, maybe then something will get done. King Madigan is dragging this whole state down...........
Former Tactical Officer gets 2 yrs for slapping a drug dealing gang banger in "Terror Town".
Anybody who stops a fool on the street and completes the ACLU suit sheet. Deserves to get fired and sued.
Policing is dead, get it. Loose you cool or have to get control of a situation that you step into and you loose pal not the gangbanger
Escalade has you back so does Anita hey!
Did any detectives ever get aggravated battery charges and a two year prison sentence for someone slapping a police officer?
She ordered that protester released with out charges
Wise up my friends.
imagine if aldo brown was white?
Isn't that .25 ACP ammo above and to the left of the .22LR ammo. This really put a dent in ghetto fire power.
That's a Bersa? Thought it was a Jennings or similar ilk. The hi-point I'm not surprised about.
That high power .22lr probably has a 30 caliber magazine clip which can get emptied in a half second.
I'm not sure if the reporters are idiots though or what they printed was just boilerplate to make it look actionable.
It's funny Leo hasn't made one arrest since taking over Isp yet he already has every award there is.
Remember a few years ago, when the bosses showed off a machine gun they had grabbed. Turned out to be a movie prop!
o/t: so Aldo Brown gets two years in prison for "kicking, punching" some clown in possession of a firearm...and the liberals wonder why the police are fetal?...the next time they need the police, they should call the guy who had the gun....maybe we "ain't" coming
Guys and girls in "units" are being forced to do ISR's when they are not needed. Sgts are going along with the program because the bosses are all over them.
Kudos to the ISP troopers. At least some cops are working for their paycheck. They get our zones and are always there to help us if they can. They are always professional. The expressway is no joke. How many have been killed in the line of duty just in crashes alone?Very dangerous place to work and one man units usually. They are more strapped then we are. How long do they have to wait for an assist? Seriously how many of us would work the expressway at night by ourselves. Yeah sign me up for 79th and the Ryan on midnights by myself. Screw that. Instead of bashing officers for doing their job just don't say anything at all. Be safe everyone.
Anonymous said...
Ha, love ISP, but those guns came off of one stop. Leo don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
3/02/2016 08:21:00 AM
Give the ISP a break. They are you friends not your enemy. They are working under the same restrictions that you are under ; low manpower and restraints on stop and frisk along with cameras everywhere.
See the video of the gun shop burglary in Houston? The coppers in TX better be alert.
It's a shame new po's can't carry a 45 anymore. Going to 9mm was the brilliant idea of the then lieutenant at the academy who sold this idea to mccarthy as a way to reduce costs. What a stroke. You're probably only saving the department pennies at the expense of forbidding new po's from carrying a round with superior stopping power. And all for what - you sold yourself out to get that captain promotion. Even the feds still let their agents carry 40 and 45.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wait Richard Flair lying and over promoting? He has done that his whole career. Why stop now?
3/02/2016 01:07:00 AM
Say what you want personally it's great more troopers close had an assist call in 011 2 troopers on scene and backed us up! Send more Leo thank you!!
Anonymous said...
Ah yes the three biggest ghetto guns... Good work state good to see somebody still works, the lazy mopes on this job are the worst
3/02/2016 12:46:00 AM
I disagree / don't see it as laziness. Quite the opposite.
Frustration. Fear. Self preservation. The critical, biased "oversight" of the lawless ACLU on every move you make, every word you speak, every glance that seems awry. They are open about their anti police agenda and this is evidenced on their website as well as the handouts distributed and posted around the hoods. They are corners (I work in 10) next to the guys selling loosies - soliciting police cases. ... 'did the mean policeman(was he white?) hurt your feelings? tell me more ...'
The active solicitation of complaints against police by ACLU & the Only Some BLM folks/people is part of a deal brokered by white shirts and the corrupt administration. Where was FOP?
The deal is not only unfair to cops but is incredibly divisive. These anti police methods clearly pit Police AGAINST the community.
AND: the lying and lack of support by the administration and CPD leadership. Well, a decent union might make a case for "hostile work environment" complaint.
I don't see the current trend as LAZY - If you are a Chicago cop, that comment doesn't make sense. Sure there are lazy bums but that is NOT what is going on here.
Off Soapbox.
"For Us, By Us" -- hopefully this program will result in massive police and EMT defunding as large sections of our cities are turned into free-running "urban prairie." Perhaps "bankrupt rapper" 50 Cent can chip in to help save the Black Lives That Matter.
http://www.highlightzz.com/50-cent-shows-off-stacks-of-cash-in-freezer-after-bankruptcy-filing/
High-crime Philadelphia neighborhoods offer gunshot first aid classes using military BATTLEFIELD tactics
* Temple University Hospital is enlisting neighborhood residents in the program called 'Fighting Chance'
* The doctors and nurses conducting the training have plenty of experience, as the hospital treats at least 400 shooting victims a year
* The program is part of a national campaign by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security called 'Stop the Bleed'
* It recognizes that no matter how fast emergency responders get to a scene, bystanders will be there first
* Homicide is the leading cause of death for black males between 18 and 34 years old in Philadelphia and the rest of the U.S.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3473013/For-high-crime-neighborhoods-class-gunshot-aid.html
Q. Will victims be expected to "represent" for the correct local street gang before receiving a bandage?
31 years with Cpd. Just allow me to say I have the utmost respect for the troopers of the ISP, ric flair excluded. No doubt you guys and gals are putting up with a lot of the same shit we are. I'm sure there's other places you'd rather be patrolling than this shithole and the savages that inhabit it.
Be careful out there
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the commenters describing that ar platform as "high powered"....
either you are an ignorant non-gun owner, or easy-brainwashed.
In either case, you are doing the anti's dirty work for them.
please don't do that.
Additionally, it's not an "assault" rifle either. Is it full auto? No, it isn't. It is merely a semi-automatic rifle.....period.
3/02/2016 07:55:00 AM
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Ehhhhh there are .50 BMG single shot uppers. They kick like a 12 gauge with the breaks they have.
Also the lowest pistol is a Bryco/Jennings/Jiminez J-22/JA-22
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennings_J-22
Ah yes the three biggest ghetto guns... The "choppa" which of course just looks cool but nobody on the street or YouTube videos can tell it's only a 22, the bursa 380 and the biggest ghetto gun of them all a hi-point. Good work state good to see somebody still works, the lazy mopes on this job are the worst
3/02/2016 12:46:00 AM
Settle down,gramps. The "choppa" is generally a term for a full-auto ak47, not a semi-auto ar, especially a .22. As for the "lazy mopes" on this job, I guarantee you CPD got more than 7 guns in those 7 days. How many did you get? I'll assume none, just like your arrest numbers. Keep on criticizing while not doing shit yourself. Maybe I'm wrong though. Impress us with your stats. I can't wait.
The Jennings/Bryco might be a .22, it's got a heel mag release. The Hi Point could be a 9 though.
Actually looking at the gun I thought was a Jennings, it might be a Boa or something like that. Judging by the mag, it's a .22 rimfire, has an oddball mag looks like.
Yeah, that's a regular arsenal there. I wonder how this will impact ISIS' weapons supply.
surprised the media didn't add eyebrows, with a mean looking expression, on that long "mouse gun", in order to make it appear even scarier..."oh the horror"
Escalate is delusionable, barking lies on TV about increase in isr reports,the morale is at its worst , bring back Cline
I'm sure the bad guys don't have to qualify every year!!! This Department is out of touch and behind the times. Every Officer should have a patrol Carbine, no exceptions.....
CPD has became a joke!
Kudos to ISP!
22's aren't deadly?? Why is it the weapon of choice for mob hits??
22's aren't deadly?? Why is it the weapon of choice for mob hits??
3/02/2016 11:44:00 PM
Efficiency, economy and neatness counts.
The weapon on the table is not an "AR" platform and can't take a .50 BMG. The gun is a standard Mossburg .22 LR that has a plastic shell that clamps over it to make it look like one of those dreaded black rifles.
That's a Bersa? Thought it was a Jennings or similar ilk. The hi-point I'm not surprised about.
That high power .22lr probably has a 30 caliber magazine clip which can get emptied in a half second.
I'm not sure if the reporters are idiots though or what they printed was just boilerplate to make it look actionable.
3/02/2016 01:46:00 PM
A 30 caliber magazine clip? Are you fucking serious? Emptied in a half second? That's 3600 rounds per minute. You're not getting that rate of fire out of anything you can carry in your hands. And then you criticize the reporters for being idiots! Priceless.
Take all your "magazine clips" and your various "calibers" of .22lr and go read a book about guns. Pay special attention to the part about the barrel shroud, better known as "the shoulder thing that goes up."
It's a shame new po's can't carry a 45 anymore. Going to 9mm was the brilliant idea of the then lieutenant at the academy who sold this idea to mccarthy as a way to reduce costs. What a stroke. You're probably only saving the department pennies at the expense of forbidding new po's from carrying a round with superior stopping power. And all for what - you sold yourself out to get that captain promotion. Even the feds still let their agents carry 40 and 45.
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It's a shame that people still believe the stopping power myth. There's no magical property of the .45ACP round that gives it "stopping power." Shot placement is the absolute most important thing when trying to stop a threat. Practice hitting where you aim, aim where it'll count, and use whatever round you can fire most accurately and carry in the greatest quantity. If you have perfect aim and lightning fast reloading skills, by all means, get yourself a badass single stack. 45 and blast away. However, if you're that good, why not carry a 9mm and put more than twice as many rounds into the bad guy before reloading. If you're that good, 16 or more 9mm shots to the face should sufficiently deter the threat.
Good times in Houston! Proceeds are OTW to a Mormon gangbanger near you!!!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35717096
I'm sure the bad guys don't have to qualify every year!!!
This Department is out of touch and behind the times.
Every Officer should have a patrol Carbine, no exceptions.....
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Slow down kid . . .
All you need is to make sure your squad can go in reverse and go back to "the hole".
"Kudos to ISP!
22's aren't deadly?? Why is it the weapon of choice for mob hits??"
3/02/2016 11:44:00 PM
Fired from 4" away. Ask Ken Ito how effective that was?
I'm curious.....
did Daley threaten to stick that up anyone's butt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHyeyJC524o
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Escalate is delusionable, barking lies on TV about increase in isr reports,the morale is at its worst , bring back Cline
3/02/2016 10:43:00 PM
Agreed but where is Charlie "$350.00 per hour" Ramsey hiding? We have a supt and Charlie over 1 million a year on these 2 top tier LOL guys but results? "We got no stinkin results!" You 2 need to back Blue, how about speaking on in favor of the travesty that happened to officer Aldo brown! "No justice no police!" Staying fetal best for your health,family,career you get paid the same why bother gathering animals?
"Remember a few years ago, when the bosses showed off a machine gun they had grabbed. Turned out to be a movie prop!"
3/02/2016 02:05:00 PM
Oh, yeah, the "M60" on the famous Table Of Guns they brought out every week. I was beginning to recognize some of those weapons from having seen them so often. I think they thought an S&W Mod. 49 looked especially dangerous, so they kept putting it in front. Understand that reporters were kept away far enough so they couldn't read the date on the evidence tags...
>snicker<
"Fired from 4" away. Ask Ken Ito how effective that was?"
3/03/2016 09:28:00 AM
I missed getting my souvenir Purple Brick.
Fired from 4" away. Ask Ken Ito how effective that was?
3/03/2016 09:28:00 AM
a 22 short round fired from a pistol with a homemade bs silencer saved the live of Ken Ito. But, his brain still scrambled. A 22 LR magnum will cause a lot of damage and has a good distance and velocity. The slug won't break bones ( Itos head bone was dense and blunted the round? and the slug will bounce around inside of you damaging a log of organs.
Set up LPRs around Independence Boulevard and you won't believe what you haul back in the net. A lot of the s__t that keeps the ERs busy day and night is caused by one big s__t-cluster. Clean it out and then hose down.
Oops. ISRs. ACLU. Forget it.
So let them keep killing each other, as the "activists" desire.
It's a shame that people still believe the stopping power myth. There's no magical property of the .45ACP round that gives it "stopping power." Shot placement is the absolute most important thing when trying to stop a threat. Practice hitting where you aim, aim where it'll count, and use whatever round you can fire most accurately and carry in the greatest quantity. If you have perfect aim and lightning fast reloading skills, by all means, get yourself a badass single stack. 45 and blast away. However, if you're that good, why not carry a 9mm and put more than twice as many rounds into the bad guy before reloading. If you're that good, 16 or more 9mm shots to the face should sufficiently deter the threat.
3/03/2016 06:36:00 AM
Seriously? Where have you been since the McDonald video was released? Try putting 16 shots on someone's face and see what happens tough guy. Whether justified or not, guess what, in this climate you're gonna have to justify each single shot and NO ONE in power will find that justifiable. Sure, a 45 is not for everyone, but why take it away as an option for those who are proficient with it. If a 45 equaled the stopping power of a 9 then no one in the world would use it as its more expensive and possibly harder to handle. So, yes a 45 definitely has been proven to have superior stopping power. Practice shooting at metal targets and observe how a 9 does not knock them down whereas a 45 does. A well placed shot with a 45 better than a well placed shot with a 9 too.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Kudos to ISP!
22's aren't deadly?? Why is it the weapon of choice for mob hits??"
3/02/2016 11:44:00 PM
Fired from 4" away. Ask Ken Ito how effective that was?
3/03/2016 09:28:00 AM
Better still...
Ask the two guys who were sent to kill "Tokyo Joe..."
They were found strangled and making
"Trunk Music."
Our money is still on a .45 ACP bonded hollow point
driven at vigorous to formidable (1000 to 1200 feet per second)
velocity.
.45 Long Colt with heavy (250 to 270 grain) hard cast
Keith slugs @ 1000 fps.
Ditto for .44 Special.
.38 Special 158 grain soft lead, gas checked hollow point "gumballs"
@ 1000 fps or a hard cast Keith of the same weight at 1200 fps.
Keith slugs in .44 and larger caliber are designed for killing
large, vicious, angry, tenacious of life, four legged critters at
close to contact distance.
The most vicious and tenacious of critters are of course,
human beings...
>Making like Rahm and ignoring the butcher's bill being
cashiered on the West and South Sides and the increasing
ill-smelling spill-over into formerly off limits areas of this city<
Rahm showing up at roll calls:
"Heh... Hey guys, I was just bullshittin' about
fucking you out of your pensions, pay raises and
pay no attention to me surrendering YOU to the
ACLU, #BLM and the Feds so why don't you play
along and knock off all this talk about withholding
proactive Policing to protect yourselves. I got your
backs as long as you're 100% right..."
He's a tone deaf little manling,
isn't he? He'd be amusing if he
weren't so toxic and dangerous to us.
Police like you have no friends.
Don't be so easily dissuaded from your
anger and hatred for the ongoing treachery
and willful intent of the powers that be to
see you shoved off your hard earned place
on the social hierarchy ladder to a place
below the m/fers spraying death, destruction
and willful ignorance throughout this city.
Always remember.
Viva Hate.
Just you wait until the summer killing season.
They'll suing for peace and pleading with
The Police to let bygones be bygones...
It is good, that every living ass is now
equally in danger.
"We don't understand why you guys are so
hostile and angry for no apparent reason.
Aren't there rules against that?"
"Forbidding the 45". You are aware recruits have a 9 because of the ammo costs for the training? After probation recruits can upgrade to a 40 or 45.
"Superior stopping power". Christ...
The California highway shooter was using a 22 and everyone he killed had their window down. All the people he shot with the window up lived.
Fired from 4" away. Ask Ken Ito how effective that was?
3/03/2016 09:28:00 AM
An exception to the rule.
Kenny had a really, really, really thick skull.
Plus he knew them lightening fast, imperceptable to the eye, head jerk moves, learned from his youthful activities dodging papa-san's ire.
Seriously? Where have you been since the McDonald video was released? Try putting 16 shots on someone's face and see what happens tough guy. Whether justified or not, guess what, in this climate you're gonna have to justify each single shot and NO ONE in power will find that justifiable. Sure, a 45 is not for everyone, but why take it away as an option for those who are proficient with it. If a 45 equaled the stopping power of a 9 then no one in the world would use it as its more expensive and possibly harder to handle. So, yes a 45 definitely has been proven to have superior stopping power. Practice shooting at metal targets and observe how a 9 does not knock them down whereas a 45 does. A well placed shot with a 45 better than a well placed shot with a 9 too.
3/03/2016 04:26:00 PM
At least you've confirmed that you're a complete moron. My point, which I made extremely obvious, and which has been proven time and time again, it's that the .45 round does not have this mythical "stopping power" you choose to believe in. A secondary point, which you also missed, though it was also blatantly obvious, is that you should carry a round that you can fire most accurately and in the greatest quantity. McDonald didn't get 16 shots to the face. The whole problem with the McDonald scenario is that people viewing the video believe McDonald was walking away from police when he was shot, and that he was shot several times after he was no longer a threat. If you drop a guy with a knife after a few shots, then proceed to empty your magazine into him when he's no longer presenting a deadly threat to anyone, lube up your asshole and head down to county, because you're in for a hell of a ride. Just because someone presented a deadly threat at the time you fired your first shot, doesn't give you license to keep shooting until you're in slide lock. Shoot until the threat is eliminated. If it takes 16 rounds, use them, and be able to justify using all 16. My point was that having more ammo available with fewer reloads is better. Only a complete moron would argue against that logic, which is what you did. Have you ever been involved in a shooting? Did all of your shots hit your intended target? If there are multiple threats, isn't it better to have more rounds to send their way? How many people can you shoot while reloading? I'll take a wild guess and say that number is 0,just like for everyone else. I've seen 9mm knock down metal targets all day long. I don't consider that to be the test for "stopping power." You've also made the mistake of arguing against your own point, when you stated that .45 may be harder to handle. Why would you want a gun that you can't control as well? I'm sure you'll only read half of this and understand none of it, but at least I tried. Good luck shooting your tough metal targets with your magic "stopping power" rounds.
What happen to the good old .44 cal, no court time when used!
Navy SEAL Kyle DeFoore who now owns a firearms training company has several videos up on Youtube. In one of them he shoots cinder blocks with both 9mm and 40S&W. You can clearly see the 40S&W knock the cinder block down, make a huge hole and penetrate the block while the 9mm hardly moves it and makes a small hole that doesn't penetrate all the way through.
Make mine a 40S&W or 45ACP please.
When someone starts making people out of cinder blocks, I'll be sure to watch that video.
22's aren't deadly?? Why is it the weapon of choice for mob hits??"
3/02/2016 11:44:00 PM
Fired from 4" away. Ask Ken Ito how effective that was
Is that why he has squinty eyes??
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