Teachers are Walking
Just a prediction here, but they're going out in April:
- The Chicago Teachers Union will gear up to strike as soon as April 1, if Chicago Public Schools follows through on its threat to unilaterally cancel the 7 percent pension pickup it has made for decades, a top union official said Monday.
CTU Vice President Jesse Sharkey made the comment just hours after 62 members of his union were laid off, a fraction of the number the union had feared.
As the school district has ramped up pressure on the union — via layoffs — to sign off on a contract proposal to replace the one that expired last June, the CTU countered with its own threat of withholding labor in the middle of the second semester, earlier than previous predictions when parents might still support a teacher walkout.
Another prediction - they're going to get a lot less support this time around. They only have to be more popular than Rahm, but that might be a stretch.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:33 AM
121 Comments:
I know that teachers, especially in CPS, have a tough time. I admire your dedication to the children. With that being said, I was surprise at how much you contribute to your pension. We put into our pension anywhere from 9% to 10% and the city contributes 1.5% to 2%. We do not receive Social Security benefits (SS benefits are greatly reduced if we did). That being said, IF the city DID pay into social security, they would be paying 6.75% and so would I. The city's costs would go up and mine would go down. However, I have a pension, which has very often been raided by the politicians as their person slush fund and my pension is in jeopardy because of it. YOU SHOULD BE PAYING SIMILARLY IN TO YOUR PENSION AS I HAVE INTO MINE! I have no sympathy for you on this regard.
Additionally, it would probably be in your best interest if you removed the communist head of your union for her throne. She is certainly no friend of yours and as long as she is the president of your union, I will find it very difficult to support you on this pension issue.
Fuck the teachers. We can make pension contributions, the teachers can too. Fucking pusses.
Are you saying our Chicago teachers will put a union contract ahead of children's education?
Do we need to take them back?
PATCO is a great model for this strike.
Go for it!
HEY HEY! Ho Ho! They REALLY have to GO!
Sorry, but there is NO more money and if they think they are going to get it - Good Luck.
This state is broke. Let me say that again, this state is BROKE.
Time for all these people to tighten up their belts like everyone else has in this state.
The magic money waterfall has run dry. No one wants to admit that and no one want's to take "no raise", let alone a cut.
So what is the alternative? Layoffs.
Good luck trying to find other jobs in Illinois. When they see the "job market" that all other Illinois residents have had to deal with, they will be saying, "Oh, I should have agreed to take less." Too late.
Oh and don't forget to vote Democrat in the upcoming Primary.
They walk my kids are not making up the days on their summer break.
Buh bye! Go ahead and walk. The State is Broke, the Shitty is Broke, the County is Broke. No one can afford these 'pickups' and 'gibs me dats' any longer. We're tapped out, done.
So go on strike - no one gives a shit. 60,000 certified teachers are ready and waiting to take your jobs at whatever the CPS offers.
Fuck the teachers and their police hating racist leader! I use to support them. Very greedy too.
No support from me this time..maybe the anti police/laquan crowd will have your back..hahahahahhahahhha
They should protest starting now make it the loudest and the largest ever seen the time has come , Rahm should have been gone wake up Chicago !!!!!
Jessie the communist Sharkey is a jackass. That whole communist teacher union can kiss my capitalist ass.
There weren't teaching kids shit anyways
Their students can't read! They cannot write! Give it a rest already!
When big head Karen Lewis walked with those blm pieces of s**t, she lost all support from police. F**k the teacher's union. When their union showed no respect for the people they call when their students are knocking the s**t out them, they lost mine. Close the schools who cares. Defund the whole damn school system. Make ALL CPS employees live in the city like we do. You'll get teachers quitting left and right.
RAHM HAS TO GO , Why Doesn't he start the Casino and a lot of other stuff that can make Money for the City and or Pensions , Still he puts all the Blame on Gov Rauner Also , Like If the Damn State is Not in Debt also. But then of course this is what they said about the Lottery when it started also , Ohhhhh YES Don't Worry , there will be no problem again for the City Schools with Money coming in from the Lottery,, Starting the Lottery will cover That NO PROBLEM , Dirty Rotten Bastard THIEVES. Let Them Strike the Hell Out of the City , Lets get rid of this Ballerina Weasel Mayor with No BRAINS at all , but only makes Money only for Himself , and Throw the Little Bastard In Jail Too. The State of Illinois is Only 127 BILLION in Debt and the Ballerina is asking the Governor for Money LMAO , Ohhhhhhh That Makes sense only for this Little Weasel. UN Fuckin Believable
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-drowning-in-debt-127-billion-and-counting/
Do teachers pay anything into their pensions? If not, time to suck it up.
Thanks, CPS and CTU. I'd really prefer to stay at my CPS teaching job that I'm fairly good at - despite all the clueless people who'd like to blame me for my students' low test scores. The contract offer made by the city wasn't great, but it could have been worse. However, the CTU's crusading bargaining team think they can negotiate a fix to Chicago's financial corruption. Plus, they made a serious misstep in holding hands with the Black Lives Matter folks. Stupid beyond belief. Thus, I've got my resume ready for the suburban districts - if I haven't been too poisoned by CPS. At this point I'd rather bag groceries than teach in Chicago.
Black lives Matter + Chicago Public School Teachers Union = April Fools Day is coming
Fuck "em. CPS should start looking for replacements NOW, so that they can dump their sorry asses when they go out.....AGAIN. A lot of taxpayers are sick and tired of these overpaid, underperforming babysitters.
The public is fed up with the teachers union. Rauner has a mandate to break the system and fix it. We don't need the same amount of teachers that we had twenty years ago. Let the pink slips flow just before they decide to strike. You'll see a change in attitude .
OT sort of:
Check out (Google) Open Letter to Oklahoma written by a teacher there - many similarities to the Chicago schools. AOL has it on their homepage.
Since my wife is a teacher, she is very popular in my house. Imagine how we would feel if our uniform allowance and shift differential was taken away?
Get rid of school janitors. Make the teachers sweep their own floors..
The teachers should pay into the pension system thats why there is such a problem , the police pay 9 percent.
Good. No one gives a shit!! The teachers have annoyed every fucking supporter they once had, especially in this arena. No one sympathizes with greedy assholes who pay 2% into their pensions make $80k+ to work straight days, weekends/holidays off, and a nice 6 weeks off in the summer! Strike you assclowns! I'll be sure to be there to boo your asses! Oh and when we get down to it, YOU are more part of this destructive culture of violence, dugs, gangs, and murder than anyone wearing blue! So yes-YOU are the failure! So go stroke you greedy pricks! Enjoy zero support
Years back, Daley averted a CTU strike by, instead of giving individual raises, the city will make 7% of their personal contribution. Of course, the city never did that as well as not paying their own contributions.
I'm not a big fan of their politics as a whole, but they have a point here
Boo hoo. Go dig up Laquan McDonald's corpse and have him March with you dicks.
Buh- bye!
No wonder there going broke their making the teachers contributions also! Are the teachers that greedy they can't make their own at least a 9 or 100 percent minimum contribution.
Fuck all of them!
Our system of government is flawed and corrupt, because we have no means of Removing Incompetent Elected Officials. Rham has clearly shown that he is a failure! A teachers strike, and a second one coming, a reelection that was based on withheld evidence. A police force restrained by federal scrutiny and a lack of support from City Hall. A head of the school system, on her way to prison, a financial manager in prison, a Police Superintendent who did major damage to the Department, and then was fired; at what point does somebody pull the plug on this arrogant little suburban Putz? Illinois needs legislation to control and REMOVE Incompetent elected officials, and Term Limits. We should have learned our lesson with Blago, and Rahm is cut from the same rags. "G"
I can support the teachers with their cause because they have a true bargaining unit with a "strike" clause in their contract. How many parents have jobs they have to go whereby "junior" is dropped off from 8:15-4:30 mon-fri and is babysat. They are the first wave of contract negotiation that spills over to CPD and CFD. What roasts my stones is the CTU magazine with teaching McDonald expose'. As a police officer that was bullshit. Having Karen Lewis tell her flock to go march with Father Phlegm and his blacklivesmatter crew on Michigan Ave. to disrupt everything is idiocy to say the least. That was bullshit too. We all know that Lewis has it out for the Rahmfather, but to draw a line in the sand between Police and Teachers is detrimental. It does more damage than good. Karen Lewis has to rethink her strategy with the Rahmfather and to not divide us like she did. The streets and sans,cfd,cps strikes are all real of the past.
The city / state wants them to strike so they can replace them plenty of teachers looking for a job. Don't believe it ask the air traffic controllers from the 80s.
Oh Goody!!!
Thousands of teenage thugs on the streets in April,
What is the worst that can happen?
About that vacation you wanted in April....
The Summer S4!tshow is going to be starting a few months early?
Union busting, every Union in Illinois should be concerned. First teachers then police then fire.
I hope the teachers walk. and, maybe the citizens of Furguson will come up by the bus load to protest with you. Thug life and the Chicago public schools go so good together. STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE !!
If the teachers walk and strike, who will educate the children?
It too bad the CPD does not have a retirement option like the Thrift Savings Plan that Federal workers have. This is a 401K that is totally outside of Government control and is managed by the large private pension plan actuaries. Presently is it BlackRock Institutional Trust Company, N.A. My investments have done very well over the years. This fund was instituted during the Reagan administration. One of the interesting things they did was too keep the Congress's hands off the fund is in an emergency they could borrow from the fund but that immediately after the funding emergency the money had to be paid back with interest at market rates.
Although I agree the teachers "should" have been paying their share into the system the WHOLE time, that wasn't the agreement. That would be like what the city is trying to do to us, change the rules in the middle of the game. Sorry, when I came on the deal was I pay 9% and the city pays 9%. How about they come through now and say all coppers pay 18% and the city will still pay 9%, would you agree to that? So, I guess the teachers union does have a point.
Do teachers pay anything into their pensions? If not, time to suck it up.
2% Supposed to pay 9% like us, but the CPS(the taxpayers) pay the other 7%
Teachers have lost their steam this time around. Who do they think they are?? They work 9 months of year and in those 9 months they are off plenty of days in between. Who the fridge do they think they are? Teachers are part of the problem...thinking they can strike when things go wrong....others are fired if they walk out....Calm down Teachers, return to the Classroom and take your licks like the rest of us. Why should the world continue to pay for your pension? Will you pay for my pension???
Unless your wife or girlfriend is a teacher who fuckin cares. Fuck the teachers. They support black lives matter. Our property tax dollars. Half these fucking idiot teachers don't even live in Chicago.
So go on strike - no one gives a shit. 60,000 certified teachers are ready and waiting to take your jobs at whatever the CPS offers.
3/01/2016 02:04:00 AM
There four certified teachers for every job opening in Cook County.Give vouchers to every one and let them put their kids in a school that the parents want, a school that will actually teach them something. I am tired of the public teachers blaming the kids for the lack of education. So they are saying that black kids cannot learn? I hope not. If you listen to Karen Lewis she blames the white teachers for not relating to the black children. These are two questions that need to be looked at further but everyone is too afraid to approach the subject. Time to sit down and really look at the problem. CPS teachers among the top paid and compensated in the nation along with their grueling 36 week schedule.
let them strike. might be the best thing they could do.
The problem is that the CTU has failed to communicate the proper value of the pension pick-up since Day One. Since 1981, that pickup has resulted in a 3.75% increase in net pay EVERY YEAR for CTU members. 1981 was the only year in which the pick-up was given IN LIEU OF a raise.
Since then, raises (and fairly good ones, considering step + COLA can amount to as much as 7% raise in one year) were given every year since then on top of the pick-up. Over the years, teachers grew accustomed to the benefit and therefore felt entitled to it for perpetuity. Many CPS teachers retired after spending an entire career contributing only 2% towards their retirements, or 1/3 of what most taxpayers contribute for SSI alone.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/steps-and-lanes-understanding-how-chicago-public-school-teachers-get-multiple-pay-raises-each-year/
Each CTU contract specifically states the pension pickup is only good for the term of the contract. It is not a permanent benefit.
http://contract.ctunet.com/article:583
If CTU members perceived this as such, then it is union management's problem for not properly communicating to their members. CTU leaders are to blame. Unfortunately, accountability is not one of their strong points.
Here's what the 7% has cost the taxpayers of Chicago through the years:
CTU president concedes possibility of CPS ending annual multimillion-dollar practice of teacher ‘pension pickups’
We must feel bad for the part time seasonal workers, the teachers. My neighbors are teachers and during their "in service" paid time off, they worked on their house the last one. Every day, one of them--a female teacher, comes home around 12:30, reappears at around 2pm, then goes back to her job.
poor part time seasonal workers....we should hold a bake sale for them.....
If the teachers want a pension they should have to pay for it just like the coppers have been doing all these years.
Anonymous Anonymous said
Illinois needs legislation to control and REMOVE Incompetent elected officials, and Term Limits. We should have learned our lesson with Blago, and Rahm is cut from the same rags. "G"
3/01/2016 09:56:00 AM
Yes indeed. As Mark Twain said "politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often and for the same reason."
Why you cheap cops send your children to crappy public schools is beyond me. I know from watching neighborhoods change that if your parish church and school are strong you have a good neighborhood.
No mayoral election this year so Rahm does not care if they strike or not. Maybe he can use that crisis to blame Rauner and the Republicans to his advantage in the November elections.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Union busting, every Union in Illinois should be concerned. First teachers then police then fire.
3/01/2016 10:32:00 AM
Sounds like they are trying to bust their own union.....
If the teachers don't like their working conditions they can go get a FULL time job.
Years back, Daley averted a CTU strike by, instead of giving individual raises, the city will make 7% of their personal contribution. Of course, the city never did that as well as not paying their own contributions.
I'm not a big fan of their politics as a whole, but they have a point here
3/01/2016 08:37:00 AM
Well stands to reason that they shouldn't look to the city to pay their share of the contribution. If they failed to do so once why would they do it now? 7% is a lot for taxpayers to pick up. They should pay their 9.5% like all other public employees.
The CTU will not be able to have their teachers strike April 1st as CPS has their balls in the vise now. May 15th is the earliest teachers could strike as they have to go through a process and file an unfair labor practice with the stae first over the 7% pensiuon deductions to be taken out of their paychecks starting with the next paycheck.
So, what does a strike do this late in the year like this? Absolutely nothing! Nothing, but, give graduating high school seniors a break in days they need to graduate, especially as they have to graduate on pre-planned days already because of the money involved in renting out facilities.
What are the issues others than 7% pensions contribution teachers will have to pay now that they're been skating on paying in the past? Classroom sizes, charters?
The CTU and teachers are going to end up losers in this deal, especially with CPS already reporting 300 schools are underutilized and most will close soon, meaning more teaching positions wil be lost.
Dumbass teachers!!!
Cook County jail is over crowded w cpd students, great job teachers!
Word on the street is if the teachers strike again a new movement called BSM,
"Black students matter" will march on their union HQs. The BSM movement is tired of the teachers union denying them their constitutional right to an education. They also say that a strike has a desperate impact on the black community
Obvious they have way to much money that the cps union can wasted it by giving it away to protesters.
There is no way they will strike!! Rahm will tell Karen and Jesse to shut up and sit down and the teachers will begin to pay their pension contributions just like everyone else. Simple as that.
Who cares? They stabbed us in the back!!
Fuck cps teachers. I would love to hear the things that they say about the pooleeces in da classrooms. Another political stink job in this city. Try making ends meet on a catholic school teacher salary. Please stop with the bullshit cps.
If the teachers walk and strike, who will educate the children?
3/01/2016 11:36:00 AM
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Nobody. Just like when they are at work.
Since my wife is a teacher, she is very popular in my house. Imagine how we would feel if our uniform allowance and shift differential was taken away?
Shift differential??
Nice try, Troll
Since my wife is a teacher, she is very popular in my house. Imagine how we would feel if our uniform allowance and shift differential was taken away?
We get a shift differential check now?.
Let the marxists walk all the way to hell.
If they were paid according to their talent, they'd make minimum wage without benefits.
To the first poster.. the city pays 18pecent into the pension fund of salary.
Yeah the state is broke. They take in $34 billion a year. Keep thinking that the state has NO money. It's the company line they want you to believe....
Year is almost over, children have most likely learned nothing so far and a short school year will save the city money. School's out for summer, now go get those summer jobs kids.
If its in the contract that the city has to pay the pension cost then they should until the new contract says they dont. We would be upset if the city stopped paying us our duty checks,just saying.
The city made the deal and they need to honor it. Make cuts somewhere else, don't care where, not my problem.
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If the teachers walk and strike, who will educate the children?
3/01/2016 11:36:00 AM
On it's face?
The teachers have a tough job trying to educate the
mostly uneducable.
You can't put pottery made from shit in a kiln and expect fine, sturdy,
useful earthenware to emerge.
Even Rahm has said: "They're not gonna learn anything anyway."
(Funny... Everything a Policeman says is scrutinized, contested &
protested by the media, the Feds, the ACLU and the #blm mob
while the North Shore Shit-Ass rides free and easy.)
With that said...
The teachers union have massively overplayed their hand and
and will find themselves standing alone for their cynical political
alignment with the likes of "Lemon Record" et al...
"Why bother showing any solidarity with the cops?
We don't need them..."
...Until you do.
"Why are you guys so pissed-off?
We're all in this together, right?"
Anonymous said...
When big head Karen Lewis walked with those blm pieces of s**t, she lost all support from police. F**k the teacher's union. When their union showed no respect for the people they call when their students are knocking the s**t out them, they lost mine. Close the schools who cares. Defund the whole damn school system. Make ALL CPS employees live in the city like we do. You'll get teachers quitting left and right.
3/01/2016 05:28:00 AM
Karen Lewis makes close to $250,000 per year as head of the union and as an executive vice-president of the Illinois Teacher's Federation. She owns a condo in Hawaii and a home in SW Michigan (not too far from Rahm's vacation retreat). She tries to pass herself off as the great protector of teacher's benefits and rights but she's nothing but another politician.
They don't pay a fair amount into pension considering they get the summer off. Screw them. I was horrified the first time I heard all the staff at a grade school in the second district speaking ebonics to the kids. What a great example! Then they protest against us....what nerve. They're suffering from delusions of grandeur.
If the teachers walk and strike, who will educate the children?
3/01/2016 11:36:00 AM
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Let's see - The Internet, the Library, YouTube, Television, Radio - there are MANY outlets that they can listen to or watch to get something educational out of their time spent.
The BIGGER question is, have the teachers been educating the children in all this time? Based on test scores and graduation rates, I don't think so.
So why do they get paid so much for such a flawed product???????
All i can say is I've met too many CPS students who are promoted through grades with very little proficiency in the basic fundamentals of education and don't get me started on that silly ass "core math" crap that is only Making our children dumber
CTU's antics are going to backfire on their members, big time. As a teacher in CPS, the sentiment among many teachers is a growing frustration with CTU's moralizing over long term fixes for a corrupt Chicago and their extremely misguided support of the Black Lives Matter movement. They've further continued down the rabbit hole with marches that clog traffic and protests outside of Bank of America. Teachers do not want to strike. Had CTU's ad hoc "Big Bargaining Team" not dismissed the contract offer out of hand, members would have voted to accept it. Successful, competent teachers will be leaving as soon as they can for greener pastures.
Will the teachers be held accountable for the effectiveness of their students?
Wouldn't that be fun?
I remember the last time they walked out. Many on this blog were saying we should stick by the CTU. They were negotiating basically the same points they are now. The opinions here were about 75/25 divided in favor for us standing by a fellow union. I was among those disagreeing. Warning of the dangerous animal that a union can become to a city like Chicago. What's changed? Why now is there such a call here for the CTU to fold? Because their leadership is extremely liberal? You didn't already know that the last time when you were crying "fuck Rahm, go get him Karen"! No, I think you've jumped on the bandwagon once again. It was popular here to say "yea CTU" in their fight against the city and now it's popular here to say "damn you liberals, pay your fair share". It's the same then as it now. Teachers should not be averaging $75k a year (that figure is from the CTU themselves). If they wanna work year round like other adults, then maybe. The bottom line is the vast majority only work 8 months a year but are paid as if they work 12. Put them on an hourly wage. Contribute to your own pension. Stop using the children's' education as a bargaining chip like the scum politicians you say you're so different from. YOU'RE OFF OVER 3 MONTHS OUT OF 12. Even if they worked a full year, a teacher should not be making the same as a first responder. Those are some of the issues. Not the absurd support of blm being trumpeted by their leadership. Get off the bandwagon and bring up some real points.
"YOU SHOULD BE PAYING SIMILARLY IN TO YOUR PENSION AS I HAVE INTO MINE!"
And if your contract called for the city to put in 7% because something else was given in negotiations for that, you'd be insisting the city pay what it agreed to.
"Their students can't read! They cannot write!"
Your criminals can't obey the law! They shoot each other!
" At this point I'd rather bag groceries than teach in Chicago."
Anything stopping you?
Since my wife is a teacher, she is very popular in my house. Imagine how we would feel if our uniform allowance and shift differential was taken away?
Ok Louie we know your wife is a teacher who cares. How about you go get another part time if you can't make ends meet on your families six figures combined. Gee if only the rest of us were so lucky.
Why you cheap cops send your children to crappy public schools is beyond me. I know from watching neighborhoods change that if your parish church and school are strong you have a good neighborhood.
3/01/2016 02:08:00 PM
Because $12,000 a year for fucking tuition so my kid can get the same exact education with bullshit religion classes is a waste of fucking money. If all you idiot city workers would send your kids to your neighborhood public school, the schools would be a paradise. Instead you and your wife both work, you work all the overtime you can get, your kids don't know you and hate you, and your health deteriorates. All so your little sissy kid can avoid the scary public school.
"I am tired of the public teachers blaming the kids for the lack of education. So they are saying that black kids cannot learn?"
Nobody's saying that black kids can't learn, dumbass. Where are you from? Here's why CPS kids are behind:
1. Big cities have a lot of concentrated poverty and broken homes.
2. Kids from these homes enter kindergarten way behind kids whose homes are not poor or broken.
3. All kids of all colors make about 1 year of academic progress per year.
4. By the time kids from poor and broken homes are old enough to take standardized tests, they don't do as well as kids whose homes are not poor or broken.
Although the charters are great at number manipulation, there's no magic cure for the above. And Karen Lewis's comment was directed towards disciplining black kids without being too mean about it.
That 7 % puts them in line with all the other city workers.
They won't get any sympathy from the public on this one.
I'd watch it with these strike threats. Forest "The Hatchet Man" Claypool will use it as an opportunity to cut even more jobs. Any where he has worked CTA and the Chicago Park District he cut a lot of jobs and benefits. That's why they bring him in.
From what I understand the pension pick up has continued contract to contract. If they are asking you to forego a raise for the pension pickup it would probably be a good time to accept it. I'm sure they would give you the 7% back over four years of a new contract.
Your Union leaders need to come off their high horse and be reasonable. The public is sick of hearing their drum beat.
In my neighborhood the principal actually sent out emails asking local businesses to write a check to cover a funding cut the school received so they didn't have to pay teachers off. She stated she did not want to "burden the parents" and decided to go to local businesses. Really are they paying tuition? Are there kids getting free breakfast and lunch? Where the hell is this burden coming from? They could close every CPS school tomorrow and turn them into parks for all I care. Never used them never will. Good luck teachers.
Anonymous said...
Why you cheap cops send your children to crappy public schools is beyond me. I know from watching neighborhoods change that if your parish church and school are strong you have a good neighborhood.
3/01/2016 02:08:00 PM
Cheap cops? Hardly. A catholic school education costs around 7-8 grand a year, that is in a white neighborhood. In black and Spanish areas the churches and schools are considered mission churches and receive a lot of money from parishes in white areas and from the suburbs. The teacher's union and the democrats are the ones keeping the voucher programs from becoming a reality so parents can send their kids to the schools of their choice, not the underperforming local public schools. Many parents are now saving their money for a catholic high school education which is over 10 grand a year. I worked three jobs to send my kids to catholic schools and then to college so they would have a chance in life. It is time for vouchers paid by taxpayers so concerned parents can put their kids in good schools. Competition should give the teacher's union a wake up call. For them, it is all about power and money for themselves.
I used to support the teachers in this crap city because being an officer I've witnessed first hand the kind of subculture they have to deal with in their classrooms everyday. The black community has done nothing to improve or promote education for their children in the most basic sense, but instead continues to infantilize itself by making race and law enforcement the scapegoat for all its problems. It remains in this perpetual state of victimhood where every action or inaction is never held accountable or responsible to anyone and assigns fault to those public trusts like schools, police, human services, for not "doing their job" or blaming the state for inadequate entitlements and subsidies. Meanwhile, criminal elements are excused or martyred for their offenses and behavior. It would be impossible to see how anyone could maintain a stable learning environment when you are dealing with a mindset like this. That being said, I cannot fathom how the teacher's union would decide to commiserate with the McDonald/BLM antagonists. It was disgusting, to say the least, hearing of their support for this dog and pony show. Whether it was motivated by politics or just ignorance, I really don't care. I have no support for them now nor will I ever in the future.
Higher the new graduates. There are bleeding liberals right now willing to teach at half of current salary. Do it! Teachers union supports BLM!
Let them walk what their clown union did, support the thug Mcdonald in their magazine, sending and paying marchers to march against police in ferguson, using the stare down thug in Chicago in Karen assemblies! Sorry teachers we pay 9% don't get 3 months off in summer, how many 1/2 days,2 weeks off at Christmas (Which strangely should stop public schools no prayers why celebrate christian holiday), week off during spring come on and making 80-115K a year sorry pay into your pension! It's for the children!
30% are overpaid useless hacks, dump those and give their salary to the other 70%. Dump all of them that sit in the rubber room each day right now. Karen and her VP mouthpiece are nothing but anarchist, they can both KMA!
They need to get rid of Lewis. They need to contribute at least 9.5% to their pensions. They need to get rid of Lewis - I can't say that enough! With Lewis as the union president, I will not be as supportive to the teachers as I once was.
Crimes stats are up across the board.
"So why do (you) get paid so much for such a flawed product???????"
"The CTU will not be able to have their teachers strike April 1st...(blah,blah,blah)
Dumbass teachers!!!"
If you bother to read, the CTU is arguing that it's an unfair labor practices strike based on a CPS unilateral decision to not honor part of the existing contract and does not have to follow the failure to negotiate a contract strike timeline.
here four certified teachers for every job opening in Cook County.Give vouchers to every one and let them put their kids in a school that the parents want, a school that will actually teach them something. I am tired of the public teachers blaming the kids for the lack of education. So they are saying that black kids cannot learn?
All u have to do is go on YouTube and see what the teachers have to deal with in ghetto schools. Parents who don t give a crap what their kids are doing in school. Kids who roam the hallways or streets or causing disturbances in the classrooms.Just take a look at what happens to a school in a neighborhood that re gentrifies. Same teachers yet the test scores shoot up. What changed? parents and kids who care. Saw it 1st hand in bucktown.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why you cheap cops send your children to crappy public schools is beyond me. I know from watching neighborhoods change that if your parish church and school are strong you have a good neighborhood.
3/01/2016 02:08:00 PM
Because $12,000 a year for fucking tuition so my kid can get the same exact education with bullshit religion classes is a waste of fucking money. If all you idiot city workers would send your kids to your neighborhood public school, the schools would be a paradise. Instead you and your wife both work, you work all the overtime you can get, your kids don't know you and hate you, and your health deteriorates. All so your little sissy kid can avoid the scary public school.
3/02/2016 05:01:00 AM
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1. Why do so many teachers in the CTU send their kids to private schools?
2. Why did the CTU not take the city to court for not paying the proper pension payments since 1981? Because the CTU has been in bed with the city (11th ward politics) until Rahm came into office. Many many teachers take personal days to work the polls and thus get assigned to good schools.
3. Clout baby coppers should be taken out the schools. Assignments to work a schools should be just like VRI. Trump should make the CTU pay for the coppers.
4. CTU pensions should be put into the TRS with the rest of the state wide teachers.
5. Good teachers should get merit pay. If so half of the other teachers would just be at the poverty level.
6. A new law should take away the right to strike for teachers and force BOTH the CTU and the CITY into BINDING arbitration just like police, paramedics, and the crybaby firemen.
The CPS should start taking applications for teachers to take the place of striking teachers. Replace the strikers and let them walk the line as long as they like. I think you could bring in just about anyone with a college degree and do as good a job as the union members. When you look at the reading and math levels and graduation rates you will see what I am talking about. Let the teachers form a picket line at the school and then arrest any of those who interfere with the replacements. I would bet the strike will not last long. After all, it is for the children ! The first to be fired are the graduates of Chicago State who probably can not even spell their names correctly.
Teachers, members of the Chicago Teachers Unions are all registered to vote as well as their families and they do vote in every election.
blm members are all registered to and will cheat and vote multiple times in every election.
Therefore Rahm, Anita, Obama and every other Democommunist will listen to them cater to their wishes. They will get what they want.
Cops on the other hand don't bother to vote so they don't get what they want.
What would happen if Deano would announce that there would be voter drives at every district station. These would be manned by FOP volunteers and open anyone who would walk in but the idea is to register and convince every cop and every cop's family member to vote. Why isn't Deano doing this?
Rahm would have a shit fit!
A strike will decimate the CTU. They have no parent support and members of other unions are tired of them crying over having to pay into their pensions.
I am a Catholic school teacher and my school on Irving on the North side is closing. Insurance, any retirement we have and the whole show- gone as if it never existed. I am in my 18th year raking in a whopping 40.2K a year on a Master's degree and I have stayed because that is what I am- an educator. I'll scab in a heartbeat. Let the greedy bastards walk and I will be the first in line to take their hardships with a smile from ear to ear. They have no idea what they have. Stand together, fall together and I know a hell of a lot of people with all the exact same credentials as these losers who would be more than happy to step over the fallen to fill the void. Funny thing is, every CPS teacher I know- every one- is not a product of the CPS and is a transplant from a suburb, or in some cases, another State who came here for nothing more than the paycheck and job security. Kids are not in the equation with these people. Let 'em go.
Why isnt the FOP looking into school vouchers in case our children do not get into selective enrollment schools. The tax for the public schools is very high look at your tax bill.
No wonder there going broke their making the teachers contributions also!
You misused "there" and "their" in place of they're. It wouldn't have hurt to throw in a comma and apostrophe in that sentence too. My guess is you were taught by these teachers.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why you cheap cops send your children to crappy public schools is beyond me. I know from watching neighborhoods change that if your parish church and school are strong you have a good neighborhood.
3/01/2016 02:08:00 PM
Because $12,000 a year for fucking tuition so my kid can get the same exact education with bullshit religion classes is a waste of fucking money. If all you idiot city workers would send your kids to your neighborhood public school, the schools would be a paradise. Instead you and your wife both work, you work all the overtime you can get, your kids don't know you and hate you, and your health deteriorates. All so your little sissy kid can avoid the scary public school.
3/02/2016 05:01:00 AM
You are delusional if you think that public schools offer the same level education that parochial schools offer. Perhaps you are an attendee of these public schools? Guess what, it shows.
it wiould be a short strike if the city fired a few hundred a day for striking. Saves the trouble and expense of layoffs. I remember when a certain president fired all the air traffic controllers when they went on strike. They thought they couldn't be replaced, boy were they wrong
Hey teachers let BLM block the schools like they did during Black Friday with the sboppers. Let BLM black and keep teachers, students and administrators out of the schools. See how that works, you pos.
You are delusional if you think that public schools offer the same level education that parochial schools offer. Perhaps you are an attendee of these public schools? Guess what, it shows.
3/02/2016 11:45:00 PM
I've got friends that attended and graduated from your overpriced parochial schools here in Chicago that can't even spell so color me unimpressed.
Oh and by the way, it's "the same level OF education". I can see grammar wasn't your parochial school's strong suit or yours either.
To the parochial teacher who claims that we CPS teachers "have no idea what they have," I think you're mistaken. Although our salaries are higher than yours, in exchange we have the following: fights in the classroom, fights in the halls, fights in the lunchroom, general all-around gang-banging, indifferent parents who don't give a shit if their kid is absent, dirty, tired, pregnant and/or unprepared, threats of violence against us by students, and the obligation to remain positive and supportive in spite of preceding factors and also to continuously manipulate data if we want to stay employed.
As far as this troll reader is concerned, the teachers can walk and keep walking right past Riverdale. The sooner the demise of the public school system in Chicago, the better. It is the only way positive change will come to how we educate children in Chicago. This mess needs to be crushed and re invented from bottom up and can no longer be a laundering operation of confiscated money from the taxpayer.
All u have to do is go on YouTube and see what the teachers have to deal with in ghetto schools. Parents who don t give a crap what their kids are doing in school. Kids who roam the hallways or streets or causing disturbances in the classrooms
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that's how I see it.
I went to a CPS for a case once and the kids just wandered around the hall after the bell rang. You'd never have seen that at Gordon Tech. It was bizarre. The teacher we were looking for didn't show up to work that day. Just didn't show. The principal was borderline retarded.
The whole thing was a shit-show.
SO if you are a good teacher, how the hell are you supposed to get your kids to do well? You can't hold the teacher responsible. It is fucked up at every level.
So ya, some of the employees were the problem here, no doubt. But say you are an outstanding teacher .... you still don't stand a chance.
I would guess that quality teachers get eaten alive.
Anonymous said...
Since my wife is a teacher, she is very popular in my house. Imagine how we would feel if our uniform allowance and shift differential was taken away?
3/01/2016 06:31:00 AM
Your wife can invest into the pension. Your wife can also teach kids how to read and write. Your wife is in a union which will destroy the children and the city. They can fire the teachers on strike and hire new liberal graduates at half of the cost. What harm would that do? Kids cant read anyway. Tell us the truth... where do your kids go to school?
You are delusional if you think that public schools offer the same level education that parochial schools offer. Perhaps you are an attendee of these public schools? Guess what, it shows.
3/02/2016 11:45:00 PM
That all depends on what public school you're talking about. If you're talking about a public school in Englewood then you'd be right. If you're talking about public schools in more affluent neighborhoods, you'd be wrong.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You are delusional if you think that public schools offer the same level education that parochial schools offer. Perhaps you are an attendee of these public schools? Guess what, it shows.
3/02/2016 11:45:00 PM
I've got friends that attended and graduated from your overpriced parochial schools here in Chicago that can't even spell so color me unimpressed.
Oh and by the way, it's "the same level OF education". I can see grammar wasn't your parochial school's strong suit or yours either.
3/03/2016 04:12:00 AM
I don't know what schools your friends attended, but I can tell you from personal experience that it makes a huge difference. I went to both public and Catholic grammar schools and when I transferred from Catholic school to public school, I was at least two grades ahead of the dolts in public school. So yes there is a HUGE difference. In addition, leaving out the disciplinart factor is a big mistake. Without that, kids are lost. When I left the comparative safety of my previous Catholic school, I had to fight my way home every day for weeks at public school. The nuns at my former school would never have tolerated this behavior.
And your foolish attempt at correcting my grammar, i.e. leaving out a word in the
haste of typing doesn't count, grammar cop. It just makes you look petty and you miss the point.
To the public school teacher who apparently has his/her students imported from another planet- news flash for you...the same kids us parochial school teachers educate are the same ones who live next door to the public school students you educate. When they leave the building at the end of the day, they walk the same streets, have all the same shit heads on the way home and play with your public school kids. We have fights in the halls, alcohol being snuck in with the backpacks and all the same shit you do. We have all the same professional growth bullshit, certification hoops and SIP meetings that you do. Make no mistake about it. I do agree with you on the quality of parents however. It would seem parochial school parents definitely have a little more vested into the outcome of their children's childhood experiences and are a bit more "involved" in their kids world- but don't be fooled mistake- the kids you teach spend the remaining 16 hours of their days mixed in with the kids us parochial school teachers work with. The real kicker is on top of all the same crap you have to teach, we add a religion component- more to the day and still turn out a better product for half of the pay so you can stick that BS excuse. You chose the job, it didn't choose you. I by the way went to William G. Hibbard for elementary school and graduated from Von Steuben Metropolitan Science Center in the bloody 80's (and the 80's in Albany Park were quite bloody). For the record, my Mother spent 18 years riding around on beat 1724- and quite often locked up many of the kids I grew up with. Where did you go to school Mr or Miss Public School Teacher?
To 7:56 PM, Catholic teacher:
Part of the thinking teachers from any school need to overcome is the rush to martyrdom. Many people seem to pursue teaching because they get off on either being a martyr a hero, or both. As a teacher in a school overrun with martyr-heroes, it's frustrating and stops teachers from being seen as the professionals they are. As such, everyone makes their choice. Teach in the Catholic school, earn far less than you're worth, and deal with far less nonsense, and teach. Teach in the urban public school, earn a bit less than you're worth, deal with an inordinate amount of nonsense, and teach. Your teaching and my teaching may look different, but it still requires skill, knowledge, and practice.
We all need to contribute to our pension--Teachers included.
CPS just got their angry and crybaby teachers where it hurts most, in the pocket. CPS teachers were told they have to take THREE furlough days this year, based on an avg. teacher salary of $75,000 that means the crybabies will lose $1200 or 1.6% of their total salary. Plus, add in the 7% pension pickup teachers must now pay ($1750 for the rest of this year) and that's a 8.6% paycut for the poor teachers or close to a $3000 paycut.
Let's take a look at the furlough days. One is Good Friday where CPS has already reported that 8000 teachers have requested a religious holiday or other reasons for the day off. Why bother paying anyone, to work a day when kids will be sitting in auditoriums all day having movie-athon. Good choice for a furlough day here.
The calendar screwed the CPS teachers here due to placement of Good Friday being at the end of the third week in March and CPS Spring Break being the second week in April. Normally, if the CPS Spring Break started the weekend of Easter, teachers would have a professional development day or the day off altogether
The next two furlough days are at the end of the year, labeled PD Days, and two days where teachers walk into school with shorts, sandals, and shitass grin knowing they're getting paid to be hungover and sit and hangout all day and doing nothing. Another good choice for two furlough days here.
Three things screwed teachers here: BBB and SUPES, no snow or cold days needed, and the teachers and the CTU bitching about the waste of money and more work to have PD Days or the result of them.
Chicago teachers are some of the highest paid in the nation! If the rest of us have tighten our belts why not them! I had to take pay cuts as a lot of us! I also am upset that their leader is backing this BLM shit! My tax dollars should not be backing this up! A pissed off nurse!
CTU union organizer and sanders delegate Marty Ritter is working with Joanna the commie Klonsky who works on soft on crime Kim foxx campaign. Klonsky the commie represents the black caucus too as well as the new Daley alderman in Bridgeport. She is involved with the radical Chicago votes group. Now it's obvious the CTU, Kim foxx and BLM is all the same. These people must all be stopped.
Maybe they can get support from some liberal billionaire.
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