IPRA Re-opening Cases
- It's been 100 days since Sharon Fairley, a former federal prosecutor, was appointed to head the Independent Police Review Authority (IPRA).
Mayor Rahm Emanuel appointed her in December amid the protests that began with the release of the shooting video of Laquan McDonald. Wednesday Fairley announced a number of new reforms for the agency.
Fairley has been spotted on scene at recent incidents in which police officers fired weapons. She introduced her team of investigators, attorneys and community liaisons at a press conference, as well as announcing changes to how the agency reviews allegations of police misconduct.
And what else?
- A team of former prosecutors, some from the Chicago area and some from other parts of the country will randomly select 20 to 40 cases to review. While they are all closed, Fairley says she will make changes or take action if there is cause.
Witch hunt and show trials.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:31 AM
149 Comments:
Why the fuck would anyone want this job? Why the fuck would anyone be proactive?
What the fuck is an IPRA "community liaison"?
We are lucky that mostly lawyers are involved. We can be assured that any investigation or review headed up by lawyers will be fair and above board.
"Randomly select" riiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
Stay Fetal
No good can come of these cases being reopened.
It's ok we got the FOP. Ha!! Kidding.
Get a private attorney if you have to answer questions. Our FOP attorneys don't give 2 shits about you. They work with the city and play both sides of the fence.
I'm going to make every effort to keep my weapon holstered and not take it out unless absolutely necessary. I will take take care of my police duties in the most safe manner possible. I am well aware that if I discharge my weapon the State Attorney, IPRA, DOJ and the fine members of the "community" I strive to keep safe will make every effort to put me in jail. In the mean time, the person upon whom I discharge my weapon will be heralded as a pillar of the community who should be afforded every benefit of the doubt due to his (it is usually his) inauspicious upbringing.
Well,
fuck the police department,
fuck this city
and fuck the pandering politicians, whose only care is about a bunch of criminally inclined voters.
Former Prosecutor=Current Defense Attorney
Wow!
To anyone who is being pro active out there I pray for you
Please just answer your jobs and go home safe to your loved ones.
This shit is getting real deep .. They have the balls to basically admit their digging for gold and I'm afraid to say they will probably find it.
Remember all these new people at IPRA are trying to make a name for themselves.
And tell me again why we should run right out there and do the job. No, no I think I'll just write my reports and watch the crime permeate the city until it's knocking on everyones door.
I suggest that everyone involved in a previous incident gets a lawyer NOW!!!! Even if you were a witness, or an investigator!
All to feed " the community's" desires and demands.
It's a political witch hunt at our expense.
I can't wait to put this hell hole in my rear view mirror.
Hey more good news for the police. Now let's go get em! Be proactive. Good times
Gees could we get some good news someday? Can't remember when the last time the police got some good news. How about just some good news about the pension? That's all that really matters
A city that works to fuck officers because of one son of a bitch who was gun happy !!!
Rahm commits the offense of suppressing a video, in order to help him win an election he was about to lose, then any contractual agreements are thrown out the window and old cases made into showcases for a misinformed public of idiots that run about chanting stupidity spoon fed by communist agitators. This is the New Chicago.
Go to 3339 S. Halsted and sign up for the Communist Party where it was born, right here in Chicago in 1910. It took them as long as the Cubs to win, but by golly, they stuck it out. You paid for their teachers to brainwash your children for decades, tolerated their crimes, and now you have the city they always wanted you to have. Don't forget to check with your apparatchik alderman before you make any moves that could be contrary to Party teachings or principles.
Sharon Fairley is looking to make a name for herself and show the black community that she has their back and not the police. We all know that people of color do not commit crime or lie about their conduct when interacting with the police, we the police are the devil. Too all the run and gun police you have nothing to cry about if you become part of the witch hunt, stay very very FETAL boys and girls
OT- Once again the infamous 012 dist Bobblehead is berating good Sgts in the common areas of the station in full view of PO's. Very classy commander.
It's open season.
So let's say they find a reason to change the findings of a closed investigation, what discipline will the IPRA investigators recieve for their mistake?
Stay Fetal.
what about the group of retired officers that include such famous crime fighters as Patricia Hill, Richard Wooten, and a slew of others, who are bending the DOJ's ears? Maybe the DOJ should pull up their activity records and make sure they really were not police impostors. I believe the records will show they were, and their agenda is simply we want everything run by people of color.
Real police work is dead. RIP The dial has been moved from proactive to reactive. God Help this once great city!
more bs smoke and mirrors...surprise surprise- we did not find any cases that needed an alternate finding----or maybe they find a couple for show, but the involved member is dead.....all nonsense
It's time to jump in Deano.
No such thing as random...
Specific officers with more then one shooting incident or lawsuit will be targeted...
Specific detectives who handle the police shooting or have more then one lawsuit, who they have a hard on for, will be targeted.
And,,, I mean targeted... These officers and detectives have had bulls eyes on their backs for years and here is the city's chance to go after them.
FOP should be notified of each case that is being re-examined and track to see if specific officers are being targeted
It should also be spelled out if the cases are being re-opened just for training purposes or will discipline or criminal charges be sought based on new findings.
Keep working hard assholes. Keep being proactive and gung ho.
That's how they do it, can't fuck u state wise, they go fuck u Fed style!
But please continue to be proactive and remember those ISRs. The mayor, the new superintendent and the new head of Ipra all have your back.
IPRA is also investigating old lawsuits resulting in the City paying out a cash settlement for any type of incident.
Chicago's Black Caucus making a lot of noise and pushing their guy GW for Supt. So far we have heard from the Hisoanic Caucus and the Black Caucus. Not a peep from the White Caucus. Oh wait....
They may want to start locking up those exempt in the Koschman case!
I always laugh when they retire and still think nobody will come after them.
So what up IPRA those were obvious Obstruction of justice cases/official misconduct.
But RAHM does not want those cases opened up because the bLACK LIVES MATTER DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THAT CASE.
OT - I'm surprised to see that yesterday's IL SUP CT decision on the pension case wasn't your lead story.
As a Republican, I was actually sorry to see the City lose this one. But as an attorney, I am here to tell you that that case was correctly decided as a matter of law. What does "shall not be diminished or impaired" mean. It means exactly what is says. Duh.
Grab the lube baby, cause that great big locomotive of Democratic taxation is headed straight for your brown eye.
If this isn't enough to send cops into orbit over the residency requirement, I don't know whatever will be.
Call the next case. Not a cop.
Witch hunt. Blame the coppers for the destruction in black and brown communities. Nothing is ever their fault.
Listen FOP, you better step up on this and be public about it or we as members will get together and in mass, call the state and national FOP lodge and voice concern of lack of best interest for the Chicago membership and let them know if FOP can't step up then maybe it's time to consider a new union.
Don't give us guns. We're not allowed to shoot them or if we do, we're going to be investigated until something can be pinned on us. Fuck this fucking joke city.
Now go out there and get some ISR's and some guns of the street.
randomly select...lol..ya sure
Victimize the victims. All PO's from past shootings should go on IOD and claim PTSD due to this witch hunt.
"Randomly selected"
I warned you about this 3 days ago. They arent just "re-opening" they are issuing fresh CR#'s and starting fresh investigations with the DOJ and FBI in tow. Do not ANY OF YOU, if your involved, discuss this shit with anyone but a Lawyer who is on your side. Not your co-workers and certainly not your fucking supervisors. All these pricks want is fodder for their gossip breaks...at best.
And it might be time to consider hiring your own attorney. These people want to take everything from you. This isnt some "suspension" shit. This is more like "lost pension and three years with big dick Bubba" shit. Dont say "boo" with the FBI there because guilt or innocence dont mean a thing to these cocksuckers.
They do "numbers Policing" too. Thing is "were" the numbers. They didnt come to Chicago for the pizza.
OT.
Alderman blames 'poverty' for a shooting. Are these goofs ever going to quit? DOesn't everyone live in a grass hut in Africa? Are there a lot of drive-bys there? I don't know. And you'd think the impoverished would steal candy bars to relieve their plight, not shoot each other.
YAWN
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160325/north-center/north-center-shooting-details-emerge-divide-city-cause-for-alarm-pawar
"However, the increase in violence and shooting we are experiencing across Chicago is not solely attributable to police manpower," he continued.
Pawar pointed to poverty, income inequality, poorly funded and/or diminished social and mental health services, the lack of affordable housing, inequitable funding for public schools and the ease with which guns flow through the city as "systemic and institutional" issues that underlie the violence and need to be addressed.
Mayor Murderer lost in court yesterday......
¶ 44 Since members of the Funds already have “a legally enforceable right to receive
the benefits they have been promised” (id. ¶ 46), the clause already guarantees that
pension participants will receive the money due them at the time of their retirement.
By offering a purported “offsetting benefit” of actuarially sound funding and
solvency in the Funds, the legislation merely offers participants in those funds what
is already guaranteed to them—payment of the pension benefits in place when they
joined the fund. To put it simply, in 10 years, the members of the Funds will be no
less entitled to the benefits they were promised. Thus, the “guaranty” that the
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benefits due will be paid is merely an offer to do something already constitutionally
mandated by the pension protection clause. Since participants already enjoy that
legal protection, we reject the notion that the promise of solvency can be “netted”
against the unconstitutional diminishment of benefits.
....
For all of the foregoing reasons, the judgment of the circuit court declaring
Public Act 98-641 to be unconstitutional and permanently enjoining its
enforcement is affirmed.
DOJ panelists* 'listening' to retired officers.....was not-diversified*!
Dog'n Pony show.....
Who are the "former prosecutors"? What agencies are they from? State? Federal? Lawyers who spent 1 month as prosecutors in traffic court then for the rest of their lives claim to be "former prosecutors"?
If these people are anything like that Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Moseby, be prepared for a lot of accusations with very little successful follow up.
The "Show-Trial" is one of the social fascist's most effective organizing & educating tools...LOL, educational in terms of letting 1,000,000's know where not to go with their thought or action. The current line posited by the high preists & preistesses of the social fascist POlitburo, must be toed totally even when the line pivots 180 degrees
+++++ A team of former prosecutors ... will randomly select 20 to 40 cases to review. While they are all closed, Fairley says she will ... take action if there is cause. +++++
Just my opinion but that doesn't sound exactly kosher.
Granted, the political atmosphere (that is, the politically correct atmosphere) today is that police don't have the same Rights as citizens OR criminals. Be that as it may, Fairley's statement *seems to violate* that U.S. Constitution thingy, the Fifth Amendment to be precise.
Here's the relevant part: ......
---- '... nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy ...'
Ergo, since the cases are all "Closed" those involved have already faced 'jeopardy'. So contrary to the wishes of whiny libtards and the 'catered to constituency', there are no do-overs in the USA. You get one bite at the apple and that's it -- period, end, stop.
That's how I see it anyway (your mileage may vary.)
More importantly, the Illinois Supreme Court ruled against Emmanuel.
You can bet your ass this review will yield at least a few sacrificial lambs so as to justify this new IPRA's existence... not to mention further pander to the Gibs-Me-Dat populace.
Guaranfuckinteed.
Randomly select/ Somehow I think they have some cases in mind.
Great, they can start by re-opening the CR against EW & unNOBLE for the cheating they are trying to cover up from the Lt's exam. They would get 100% support from many unhappy Sgts!!!!
Will the FOP provide everyone with legal support?
If they don't, the FOP is a useless flop.
Good just in time for spring weather they wanna play games. I guess they want the homicide rate to Sky rocket even more!
How many of these people are ACLU Members in good standing?
Watch, the guy or girl on the end of the table at your "interview" that didn't introduce themselves?
DOJ.
Want to bet they'll be happy to jam you up with a lying to the Feds charge?
Over something that happened ten years ago, and you remembered differently than you wrote down?
Why nothing about the IL Supreme Court ruling from yesterday?
Doesn't this decision set a precedent for our diminished benefits?? Especially the outrageous increase to retiree health care for officers who want to retire prior to 55! Family premiums went from $800/month to almost $2300/month in the last 3 years! If that's not considered in the category of "significantly diminished promised benefits" I don't know what is! This needs to be addressed quick! Because we all know 55 insurance option will gone probably on the next contract....
Those in the know, please explain.
This and these pos "retired police officers meeting with DOJ" nothing like adding more fuel to this fire, retired STFU, now your going to try and burn active coppers,and no your not just attacking "white" officers idiots your attacking all coppers:
http://abc7chicago.com/news/retired-police-officers-meet-with-doj-investigators/1261704/
Pat hill lets look at your published history to see how great you think you were:
Foreclosure Fraud:
http://abc7chicago.com/archive/8602354/
Suspension for failure to follow direct order:
http://www.austinweeklynews.com/News/Articles/7-19-2006/Officer-Pat-Hill-awaits-ruling-on-suspension/
calling for federal investigation of Chicago police department:
http://chicagoreporter.com/for-black-officers-in-chicago-citys-police-crisis-calls-for-action/
You say here you had 21 years on the job and were retired CPD and were Harold Washington bodyguard lets see 21 years published in 2014 do the math patty you came on in 1993 according to this story and Harold was not the mayor correct?
http://www.columbiachronicle.com/metro/article_18202566-3599-11e4-b17a-0017a43b2370.html
And an interview showing how racist you are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Z9eAkRov4
Now pat Hill lets see your history of accomplishments on this department! How many bad guys put away? The media better check who they have talking lies are lies!
Gee, who deserves a $547,862 a year pension?
http://www.bettergov.org/pension-database
Looks like Tapas Das Gupta got himself 2 pensions.
"...randomly select 20 to 40 cases to review..."
Everything has to be endlessly "reviewed" these days.
Why not just start back in 1900, or as early as you can find, and do every single one in a leisurely manner -- thus guaranteeing lifetime employment for bloated, fluid-sucking aphids of the sort illustrated here?
http://tinyurl.com/gt7askv
No wonder that everything good and decent seems to wither and die.
Anonymous said...
It's ok we got the FOP. Ha!! Kidding.
Get a private attorney if you have to answer questions. Our FOP attorneys don't give 2 shits about you. They work with the city and play both sides of the fence.
3/25/2016 01:16:00 AM
If you don't agree with an FOP appointed attorney you have the right to hire your own and have the lodge pay, so long as that attorney is willing to earn the rate all FOP attorneys agree to get paid.
With that said, be careful about paying for your own advise and counsel. Some attorneys will tell you anything you want to hear as long as you're paying them. I've known many officers who were either dead wrong, stupid, or too arrogant to just accept the fact they fucked up. Instead everyone else is the enemy instead of mitigating the damage.
Lastly, you should always get a second opinion. I laugh at coppers that endlessly shop around for a deal on an automobile, but when it comes to their profession and freedom, they ask the cop sitting next to them in a squad car.
The Fop doesn't want residency lifted
screw this city and department. Good chance the pension funds are gone in 12 years anyway. Get me out of this hellhole.
I'm still amazed at the amount of people doing pro active work just to stay in their hoodie.
the upcoming Show Trials could be a great financial boon to Chicongo. Once started they'll go on to perpetuity which means that they rate being a bonified "reality" TV show & probably even merit their own Cable Station or at least a good chunky daily slot on one of the city of Chicongo's propaganda cable channels. make them ppv or sell some ad time on them & they could fund the cpd retirement system especially with thousand of cpd thrown into political prison camps & denied their pension rights....pension problem???? what stinkin' pension problem ???? Show Trials with 99.9% conviction rate solves the cpd pension problem...our social fascist political elite are geniuses....course you knew that when you voted for them & kept voting for them year after year
nonymous said...
Great, they can start by re-opening the CR against EW & unNOBLE for the cheating they are trying to cover up from the Lt's exam. They would get 100% support from many unhappy Sgts!!!!
3/25/2016 11:31:00 AM
I empathize with you on many different levels. I have been down your road over the years of my career, now retired. The rigged tests, answers given out, secret code words, secret study groups etc. etc and on and on. Frankly, no one outside of the department really cares. NBC and the BGA did an expose on the rigged 1987 lieutenants and sergeants exam and the evidence was overwhelming that they were rigged. No one cared. The federal courts approved the " merit selections" despite all of the evidence that they could easily be rigged as they were in Atlanta and Detroit. And, look at what the merit promotions provided? Just about the entire command staff of the department are " Merit" promotions. No one cares, period and no one will ever do a damn thing about it. It is my opinion that these rigged promotions and political patronage is what really has done in the department and killed morale and the incentive to ever do any work. It has contributed to corruption and coverups, incompetence and wasteful management. No one cares
I know that I am a retired old fart. I have tried to say it nicely in past posts, some seem to ignore all us OLD guys giving advice. Don't say anything to them, two feds makes an interrogator and a witness you lie you go to jail. Don't trust this IPRA they are comprised of the same mindset, go fetal play dumb take a page out of Shortshanks book (Daley). Everyone ridiculed him when he testified " I cant recall what I don't remember", including the media. But that SOB was probably smarter than many of us. Play dumb go fetal.
Ergo, since the cases are all "Closed" those involved have already faced 'jeopardy'. So contrary to the wishes of whiny libtards and the 'catered to constituency', there are no do-overs in the USA. You get one bite at the apple and that's it -- period, end, stop.
That's how I see it anyway (your mileage may vary.)
3/25/2016 10:26:00 AM
wrong , wrong and wrong again. These files and investigations are internal and there is nothing internal that prohibits double jeopardy. Unfortunate, that is . The department can do what it wants. How a grievance arbitrator will see it is another matter.
Pawar pointed to poverty, income inequality, poorly funded and/or diminished social and mental health services, the lack of affordable housing, inequitable funding for public schools and the ease with which guns flow through the city as "systemic and institutional" issues that underlie the violence and need to be addressed.
3/25/2016 09:56:00 AM
more poor whites and Asians then blacks and you don't see them killing each other at this rate. More wrong then mentioned by the alderman
Anonymous Anonymous said...
what about the group of retired officers that include such famous crime fighters as Patricia Hill, Richard Wooten, and a slew of others, who are bending the DOJ's ears? Maybe the DOJ should pull up their activity records and make sure they really were not police impostors. I believe the records will show they were, and their agenda is simply we want everything run by people of color.
Hahahahaha - this statement is pretty much the truest thing I've ever read on the blog and that says a lot because scc hits the nail on the head pretty often. These impostors' careers were complete jokes. Everyone knew it then, everyone knows it now. DOJ is interviewing some of the laziest, most utterly useless "cops" that have ever put on the uniform.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT- Once again the infamous 012 dist Bobblehead is berating good Sgts in the common areas of the station in full view of PO's. Very classy commander.
3/25/2016 06:04:00 AM
It's BUbblehead, with a "U". If you're going to rip on Ed (and you SHOULD, cuz he's a jerkoff), at least address him by his proper nickname as given to him in 011 in the late 80s. Your hairgel is showing, kid.
The FOP is for sure in bed with city and not out to help. Example Being that in regards to Dean Angelo. In Dec of 2013 Chicago police started the "Sworn Limited Duty Program" where officers who are unable to return to full duty and unrestricted police duty can return to work in a limited capacity provided they can do all 4 requirements below.
Safely handle and Use their firearm
Walk independently without the assistances of crutches or canes
Safely arrest a person who is actively resisting
Drive a vehicle
This example speaks volumes about the FOP and the President selling us out.
Saw retired "Sergeant" Joe Mosely on tv woth other retired black officers saying there wasnt enough blacks in supervisory ranks....this from a guy who got 2 merit promotions and a command spot at CHA becaise of his sister. Quit the job cause
He was afriad of compstat. Lifelong benefactor of his blackness and he is on tv complaining.
The newly hired Director of IPRA said she was not planning to open 'more than 40' cases. That's not a lot. Be patient. We'll ride this storm out as well.
If you haven't yet, I reccomend reading the de-escalation article on the Fibune's online site.
If you haven't been staying fetal you should start now. Read the comments and you will see the tide has turned, good=bad,
bad=society failed this poor child.
Apparently every situation encontered on the street is easily quelled by verbal judo.
The "experts," politicians, bosses, and citizens all believe so.
However, the increase in violence and shooting we are experiencing across Chicago is not solely attributable to police manpower," he continued.
According to Black Lives Matter logic: Since we are down in manpower there should be less shootings not more? I now ask every shooting victim, Did you get the name and star of the officer that shot you? I don't drink very often,... but when I do,........ I drink Similac formula.........I am the most fetal man in the world.
How's the picnic planing coming? It should be a great one this year what with all the time the FLOP is puting in to it. Haven't heard anything from the flop other than regergatated legal and grivence findings.
Chicago's Black Caucus making a lot of noise and pushing their guy GW for Supt. So far we have heard from the Hisoanic Caucus and the Black Caucus. Not a peep from the White Caucus. Oh wait....
That's not exactly true. The Black Caucus has publicly stated that they want to speak to ALL of the candidates, and that they are not supporting ANYONE. Williams does not have many friends within the caucus. They don't particularly like any of the black exempts. Since the McDonald video has surfaced, the caucus members feel betrayed by all of the Black exempts, since it's likely that many of them knew of the existence of the video but did not share that knowledge with members of the caucus. Now that Rahm is in the proverbial shithouse with the Black community (and the caucus), they are beginning to flex their newly found political muscle in a whole lot of new directions.
Why nothing about the IL Supreme Court ruling from yesterday?
Doesn't this decision set a precedent for our diminished benefits?? Especially the outrageous increase to retiree health care for officers who want to retire prior to 55! Family premiums went from $800/month to almost $2300/month in the last 3 years! If that's not considered in the category of "significantly diminished promised benefits" I don't know what is! This needs to be addressed quick! Because we all know 55 insurance option will gone probably on the next contract....
Those in the know, please explain.
It's not time to take action until they decide to refer to the ASA
11:31 AM:
Whoa!
Have you no pride? Obviously, you don't realize that along with BRIBERY, LYING and STEALING, CHEATING is at the very core of our sacred "Chicago values". It's our "gold $tandard". How dare you imply otherwise.
VIVA CLOUT!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT- Once again the infamous 012 dist Bobblehead is berating good Sgts in the common areas of the station in full view of PO's. Very classy commander.
3/25/2016 06:04:00 AM
Is this the same goof who told the DSS they couldn't lock the doors and prevent the protestors from taking over the 012th district lobby last Sunday?
Every other district in the city prevented the protestors from entering their stations.
I wouldn't worry about these trivial matters as i'm sure Lodge 7 will be right there to protect our members. no, really. really.
ISR = I Stopped Reporting
I live in Jeff Park. Nobody from my community is on that panel.
The retired black officers are truly mutts. Look at their work history before you talk to these assholes.
Fairley & Foxx tag team is going to be the World Champs of fucking the coppers. Be frikkin careful and fetal !
In response to 02:58am. Maybe not a bad idea. At least on retainer.
Someone with credibility !! Maybe a group discount?
Be safe and come home to your loved ones . God bless all of you. Thank you.
Blackhawkdown! Repeat; Blackhawk down!
Coming this spring.
Drive 10 miles per hour to call with lights and sirens activated. Document cat 3, advise warrants. Go back to hole; dawn extra dark sunglasses.
Repeat.
If you were THE Police once upon-a-time
and have been involved in any number of
shootings/lawsuits/major incident, you're
fair game for the Feds and the "new and
improved" IPRA, at the behest of the new
owners of CPD, the ACLU...
Police like you have no friends...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT- Once again the infamous 012 dist Bobblehead is berating good Sgts in the common areas of the station in full view of PO's. Very classy commander.
3/25/2016 06:04:00 AM
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I hope these sgts don't just sit back and take his shit!
If he doesn't have the decency to address them in private, he's free game!
"...will randomly select..."
Beware the word "random" - this word has had its meaning altered in recent years. It now very often means, "when whites are somehow targeted."
Anyone who believes no previous cases are going to be re-opened and sent to the NEW State's Attorney Office must be smoking medical marijuana.
I am the walrus said ... IPRA needs written authorization from Superintendent in writing to reopen investigation if original CR was initiated more than 5 years ago (6.1 of contract)-- file unfair labor practice, grievance, lawsuit, etc against the inept IPRA clowns and ARDC complaint to boot if any lawyer from IPRA and/or DOJ is involved. Rise up and fight back against these degenerates...
Here's the relevant part: ......
---- '... nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy ...'
Ergo, since the cases are all "Closed" those involved have already faced 'jeopardy'. So contrary to the wishes of whiny libtards and the 'catered to constituency', there are no do-overs in the USA. You get one bite at the apple and that's it -- period, end, stop.
That's how I see it anyway (your mileage may vary.)
3/25/2016 10:26:00 AM
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Uh, well, maybe you can tell LAPD how their jail terms were unwarranted or ANY case that a state case that fails and the Feds come in and try a new case for a new charge like you violated someones civil rights.
Now, on these charges, maybe they were exonerated or unfounded in an administrative level and now they can charged criminally. When the Fed is involved there is no telling how hard you'll be fucked, but count on being fucked.
Former Prosecutor=there is money to be made here having trouble bringing business in the private world using old contacts let's go to Chicago where we can bill for all sorts of hours.
Federal over sight will be phase two there will be plenty of high paying jobs for members currently working in the Justice Department who otherwise would be looking for work when a new President is sworn in.
If any of you do any "Proactive Policing" now with the climate the way it is you are a complete fool. Don't be the next example by trying to be the hard charging hero out there. The department, the bosses and city hall do not give a shit about you. You better wake up now and protect yourself and your family. The flashing neon sign is now lit. The days of the "working police" are OVER. Get it through your God damned thick skulls will ya ! How many more times do you need to be warned. Its a new time now and the police are the enemy. Even honest mistakes now will be thoroughly scrutinized and judged by people who have no training or a clue about police work or investigations. Everything now is going to be judged by lawyers and politicians and they will be looking to fire and or put you in jail.
If you don't see it or believe it now you are an idiot !!!!!
Why do you need to hire outside attorneys to review past IPRA closed cases?
The new director does not believe that all the shooting cases were investigated
properly. And she now is throwing past and current investigators and admin
members under bus if she finds misconduct.....
OT
Mayor going to ask Fop members if they want raises in pay or Cost of living increase
for retired members.
Divide and conquer. ......
Hey IPRA why don't you open a case of cameras instead and put them in the tactical cars. That should make the city safer. Unless there's some reason we're intentionally leaving cameras out of those cars?
When is the next fop prez election? Cause this dean gotta go and yes I voted for him biggest mistake I've ever made on my 30yrs on the job
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"Listen FOP, you better step up on this and be public about it or we as members will get together and in mass, call the state and national FOP lodge and voice concern of lack of best interest for the Chicago membership and let them know if FOP can't step up then maybe it's time to consider a new union.
3/25/2016 09:00:00 AM"
Ha! That will be the day, you can even get 5,000 members to vote in the FOP Elections.
This costs how much again? More tax money "poof" gone! Another layer after police new kid on block director making a pathetic name for your self? Let's see go after police list: iad,DOJ,media,rahm,revs,these clown lawyer group,aldergoofs,gold star club,black lies groups, retired black coppers (see abc 7 report), etc ...
Hey boss you want activity yea ok we want to lose everything and go to prison! Most are staying smart staying fetal the rest see you at your fundraising event!
Does anyone know how bobble head can walk with Lt BF head up his ass all the time?
We are lucky that mostly lawyers are involved. We can be assured that any investigation or review headed up by lawyers will be fair and above board.
That is sarcasim correct. I sure hope no one actually believe lawyers are fair and above board.
We are in the situation we are in now because of Lawyers.
No such thing as as an honest Lawyer, they all lie.
OT.
Alderman blames 'poverty' for a shooting. Are these goofs ever going to quit? DOesn't everyone live in a grass hut in Africa? Are there a lot of drive-bys there? I don't know. And you'd think the impoverished would steal candy bars to relieve their plight, not shoot each other.
YAWN
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160325/north-center/north-center-shooting-details-emerge-divide-city-cause-for-alarm-pawar
"However, the increase in violence and shooting we are experiencing across Chicago is not solely attributable to police manpower," he continued.
Pawar pointed to poverty, income inequality, poorly funded and/or diminished social and mental health services, the lack of affordable housing, inequitable funding for public schools and the ease with which guns flow through the city as "systemic and institutional" issues that underlie the violence and need to be addressed.
3/25/2016 09:56:00 AM
Funny you mention this, because I was just thinking about this exact topic the other day. Poverty in correlation with crime in America and 3rd world countries. It's quite funny when know-it-Alls bring this example up. Well, in Africa, something as simple as stealing a chicken gets you a tire around your body, a lighter fluid bath, and a chance to borrow a lit match.
It's actually not hard to follow, unless your education is from some backwards school system like Texas: poverty leads to crime, that leads to more crime which leads to more crime.
Example: billy is poor(that is poverty), billy decides to sell what Nancy Regan told him to just say no to(that is crime), billy is robbed(his crime led to another crime), billy shoots robber a week later(Billy's crime led to a crime being committed unto him and he committed a crime unto his crime'e). Billy is then shot by the robbers friends in retaliation.
That is your lesson in poverty leading to crime. Sure, if as soon as people are pulled out of their mothers vagina they go right to college, graduate, & form businesses for their own communities this may be all avoided. But in the real world, where you are statistically more likely to stay poor if you are born poor, that doesn't seem as likely.
(Honestly,bno, everyone in Africa does not live in grass huts and I am sure South Africa has its very fair share of drive bys)
Think it is time for FOP to have a March in front of IPRA
"""Granted, the political atmosphere (that is, the politically correct atmosphere) today is that police don't have the same Rights as citizens OR criminals. Be that as it may, Fairley's statement *seems to violate* that U.S. Constitution thingy, the Fifth Amendment to be precise.
Here's the relevant part: ......
---- '... nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy ...' """
Yeah listen Im not a sheister or anything close to it but even I know a CR investigation is simply a administrative process. The shitbirds at IPRA are not cops and they cant charge, or even recommend charging, anyone with a criminal offense. Double Jeopardy is "A second prosecution for the same offense after acquittal or conviction or multiple punishments for same offense in a criminal trial". So if none of this happened then there was no criminal trial.
Again Im no Lawyer but Im guessing the DOJ/FBI are getting IPRA to get new CR#'s because if they fail to gather enough evidence to prosecute in a criminal case IPRA can still fuck you administratively, get you fired, and the Govt. assholes can leave town with them, and the dumb ass's in the public, calling it a "win".
Again Im reminding you fools that nobody is taking over Police stations cause blacks are shooting blacks like they were quail. Nor is anyone protesting because nobody is filling out ISR's or contact cards. Your all grown ups, figure it out.
That is if you want to get a few years of a pension before you croak from all the years of aggravation. Whatever you die from anything is better then choking to death on a 12 incher in Stateville.
Its coming!!!
OT.
Alderman blames 'poverty' for a shooting. Are these goofs ever going to quit? DOesn't everyone live in a grass hut in Africa? Are there a lot of drive-bys there? I don't know. And you'd think the impoverished would steal candy bars to relieve their plight, not shoot each other.
YAWN
These morons are completely lost. There are many more poor whites. I don't hear about drive by shootings everyday in Appalachia. I don't hear about executing opposing gang members 9 year old son in the Deep South. This is all complete agenda driven bullshit.
Come on, all of you who are saying, "FOP needs to jump in". Really? Havent there been dozens of topics Deano should of jumpedin on in the last two years? Or is it that yooze guys are just now waking your asses up?
Looks like the Emanuel Clan will have a new Havana address real soon. If not an appointment from our Sissy President on his way out, the Pant Suit Mad Women on her way in. Good riddance Fidel Asshole!
That is your lesson in poverty leading to crime. Sure, if as soon as people are pulled out of their mothers vagina they go right to college, graduate, & form businesses for their own communities this may be all avoided. But in the real world, where you are statistically more likely to stay poor if you are born poor, that doesn't seem as likely.
(Honestly,bno, everyone in Africa does not live in grass huts and I am sure South Africa has its very fair share of drive bys)
3/25/2016 09:16:00 PM
You make the presumption that being poor leads to the choice to commit crimes. There is a cultural aspect you overlook. Most poor people in the world do not commit crimes. In Chicago, that is not the case, because government socialist programs create an atmosphere that encourages the breakup of family, which leads to moral degeneration.
Nice try though, commie.
IPRA is fucking clueless on these shootings. At the one in 011 last week, they all stood around with their clipboards, looking stupid. Then they wanted us to hold the scene for over 5 HOURS while their "ballistic trajectory" expert got out of bed and drove up from Springfield. Only after the Lt asked how long it would, did they fess up that they didn't know who was responding. After an hour, they falled the ISP lab and they came out. What a joke. Oh and none of them wear any kind of ID, so make sure you see their credentials before you let them on any scene!!
#stayfetal Really seems to be working ............Figure like what end of June some parts of the "close the beach it's to hot" crowd will be practically begging for some Police intervention so it's all coming into focus now isn't it . When the police stop working the criminals turn it up now don't they.........Let em drown in their own tears.
Anonymous said...
I am the walrus said ... IPRA needs written authorization from Superintendent in writing to reopen investigation if original CR was initiated more than 5 years ago (6.1 of contract)-- file unfair labor practice, grievance, lawsuit, etc against the inept IPRA clowns and ARDC complaint to boot if any lawyer from IPRA and/or DOJ is involved. Rise up and fight back against these degenerates...
3/25/2016 06:46:00 PM
And any Superintendent appointed by Rham will enthusiastically authorize it.
Anonymous said...
OT - I'm surprised to see that yesterday's IL SUP CT decision on the pension case wasn't your lead story.
As a Republican, I was actually sorry to see the City lose this one. But as an attorney, I am here to tell you that that case was correctly decided as a matter of law. What does "shall not be diminished or impaired" mean. It means exactly what is says. Duh.
Grab the lube baby, cause that great big locomotive of Democratic taxation is headed straight for your brown eye.
If this isn't enough to send cops into orbit over the residency requirement, I don't know whatever will be.
Call the next case. Not a cop.
3/25/2016 08:15:00 AM
The city portion of your RE taxes is approx. 2/3rds of the tax bill.
However,there is a law in the books that limits increases.
Anonymous said...
Come on, all of you who are saying, "FOP needs to jump in". Really? Havent there been dozens of topics Deano should of jumpedin on in the last two years? Or is it that yooze guys are just now waking your asses up?
3/26/2016 12:18:00 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Actually, I think many people have weighed in on several topics over the past two years regarding the FOP's inaction.
Go back and read up on them here.
The rank and file will NOT re-elect Dean or any of the current FOP board for their failure to properly represent us!
OT
Mayor going to ask Fop members if they want raises in pay or Cost of living increase
for retired members.
Divide and conquer. ......
3/25/2016 08:03:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Stupid troll.
The courts have ruled, pension benefits cannot be diminished nor impaired.
The COLA stays!
Thanks for the correction.
But if that's the case, are you guys and gals ever off the hook for some bs beef? I don't mean a crime the feds can pursue, I mean a CR. If so, then....what the hell is the point of being Police, especially now.
Oh well, stay Fetal my friends.
(I used to say I wouldn't be a Chi Cop now a days for $250K. I think that may need revising --- upward.)
Saw retired "Sergeant" Joe Mosely on tv woth other retired black officers saying there wasnt enough blacks in supervisory ranks....this from a guy who got 2 merit promotions and a command spot at CHA becaise of his sister. Quit the job cause
He was afriad of compstat. Lifelong benefactor of his blackness and he is on tv complaining.
I would categorize Joe as someone who has benefitted mainly due to his moronic sister's connections, whatever they were. The same as any other offspring of the politically connected (like Vanecko, etc.). It's just too bad Joe's sister didn't have enough brains to save her own career.
OT.
Alderman blames 'poverty' for a shooting. Are these goofs ever going to quit? DOesn't everyone live in a grass hut in Africa? Are there a lot of drive-bys there? I don't know. And you'd think the impoverished would steal candy bars to relieve their plight, not shoot each other.
YAWN
On a side note speaking of poverty and grass huts and no drive bys....I remember one time back when I came on the job in Oct 1995. I was working with a black copper in 007 and I asked him why so many people in 007 did not clean up their yard and houses and why their was garbage everywhere. (Mind you I was new and grew up in Northlake) He responded "That's what happens when you are poor" (AKA the white man keeping you down is what he was getting at) then I responded that city garbage collection is free and it cost nothing to pick up trash in your home or yard and I explained how I didn't get the correlation between being poor and filthy. I figured if you were home all day, unemployed that you'd have a cleaner house and yard than mine because I'm working all day. Oh and since this time I went to Colombia and met my wife. She was poor as could be. Making $600/month living in a shack but a heart of gold and a good person with a pretty Colombian face to boot. Her $200/month home with plastic patio furniture in her home? Spotless. No dirt. No grime. No roaches. No garbage strown about. So being poor has nothing to do with shootings or cleaning up garbage. Oh and my wife never did any drive bys in Colombia (at least that I know of). Needless to say that cop asked the WC to not work with my anymore. The truth...Ah how it hurts sometimes.
Are they gonna interview Glenn Evans. At least they'll get an earfull
Looks like the Emanuel Clan will have a new Havana address real soon. If not an appointment from our Sissy President on his way out,
I have a feeling Jug Ears ain't leaving.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why nothing about the IL Supreme Court ruling from yesterday?
Doesn't this decision set a precedent for our diminished benefits?? Especially the outrageous increase to retiree health care for officers who want to retire prior to 55! Family premiums went from $800/month to almost $2300/month in the last 3 years! If that's not considered in the category of "significantly diminished promised benefits" I don't know what is! This needs to be addressed quick! Because we all know 55 insurance option will gone probably on the next contract....
Those in the know, please explain.
3/25/2016 04:13:00 PM
One word, OBAMACARE.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And tell me again why we should run right out there and do the job. No, no I think I'll just write my reports and watch the crime permeate the city until it's knocking on everyones door.
3/25/2016 02:38:00 AM
Thanks! Hopefully it knocks on your door first, hard charger...
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know how bobble head can walk with Lt BF head up his ass all the time?
3/25/2016 08:54:00 PM
Once again--it's BUbblehead, not BObblehead, you KNucklehead.
July 1st 2016 contract step #8 & #9
$89,130 (+15yrs)
$92,430 (+20yrs)
Show up to work..
Answer your 911 calls!
Give paper with a smile!
Go home safe!
Repeat!
Bwahahaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaa!
January 1st 2017
$90,024 (+15yrs)
$93,354 (+20yrs)
Enjoy your summer!
Wave to everyone!
Yes my camera and Mic work!
Bwahaaahaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa!
These are the conditions that they created for votes! Enjoy Chalkie!
Anonymous said...
The newly hired Director of IPRA said she was not planning to open 'more than 40' cases. That's not a lot. Be patient. We'll ride this storm out as well.
3/25/2016 03:48:00 PM
Unless...if poor investigations are found and a pattern shows up, will even more cases then be re-opened? Will any of these cases be referred for prosecution or separation? Is she looking at how well her investigators did in each case ? Something is in her mind and it sounds like fishing.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I know that I am a retired old fart. I have tried to say it nicely in past posts, some seem to ignore all us OLD guys giving advice. Don't say anything to them, two feds makes an interrogator and a witness you lie you go to jail. Don't trust this IPRA they are comprised of the same mindset, go fetal play dumb take a page out of Shortshanks book (Daley). Everyone ridiculed him when he testified " I cant recall what I don't remember", including the media. But that SOB was probably smarter than many of us. Play dumb go fetal.
3/25/2016 03:27:00 PM
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HEAR, HEAR!
@ 3/25/2016 09:56:00 AM Wrote ..."That is your lesson in poverty leading to crime."
Its a cultural thang fool !
The late political scientist James Q. Wilson debunked the theory that crime results from poverty. By pointing out that “crime rose the fastest in this country at a time when the number of persons living in poverty or squalor was declining.”
The notion that economic deprivation necessarily leads to lawlessness is widely believed but is not supported by empirical evidence. Human history is replete with examples of impoverished people—of all racial and ethnic backgrounds—who have endured extreme poverty without descending into criminal activity. During the 1960s, for instance, the residents of San Francisco's Chinatown were among America's poorest people—with the most unemployment, the worst housing conditions, the least education, and the highest rate of tuberculosis in their city. Yet despite such hardships, only five people of Chinese ancestry went to jail in the entire state of California in 1965.
Similarly, Jewish immigrants to America during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries also repudiated criminality despite having to face extreme economic deprivation. Historian Max Dimont describes them:
"The majority of these immigrants had arrived penniless, all their worldly belongings wrapped in a bundle.... Most of [them] arrived in New York. Some made their way into other cities,... but the majority remained in New York, settling in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, [which was] a neighborhood of the poor. Sociologists, with their impressive charts showing the number of toilets (or lack of the), the number of people per room, the low per capita income, paint a dismal picture of the Lower East Side Jewish slum. But their charts do not capture its uniqueness. Though it bred tuberculosis and rheumatism, it did not breed crime and venereal disease. It did not spawn illiteracy, illegitimate children, or deserted wives. Library cards were in constant use."
OT.
Alderman blames 'poverty' for a shooting. Are these goofs ever going to quit? DOesn't everyone live in a grass hut in Africa? Are there a lot of drive-bys there? I don't know. And you'd think the impoverished would steal candy bars to relieve their plight, not shoot each other.
YAWN
These morons are completely lost. There are many more poor whites. I don't hear about drive by shootings everyday in Appalachia. I don't hear about executing opposing gang members 9 year old son in the Deep South. This is all complete agenda driven bullshit.
I guess since you didnt hear about it, it never happened.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We are lucky that mostly lawyers are involved. We can be assured that any investigation or review headed up by lawyers will be fair and above board.
That is sarcasim correct. I sure hope no one actually believe lawyers are fair and above board.
We are in the situation we are in now because of Lawyers.
No such thing as as an honest Lawyer, they all lie.
3/25/2016 09:08:00 PM
Except, of course, when you have stepped in some deep shit, and need some help and don't know where to turn, then maybe it's time to call a liar.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT
Mayor going to ask Fop members if they want raises in pay or Cost of living increase
for retired members.
Divide and conquer. ......
------
The mayor can't do that, so it appears the only one trying to 'divide and conquer' is you.
3/25/2016 08:03:00 PM
So now your cleared been through the wringer, got on blood pressure meds due to extreme stress of "investigation" years ago, then you hear this, really like johnny says "we have your back" you may but that knife just twisted and will not come out.
How much more fetal do you want us to become? The elected have ruined policing from barrys beer summits and never attending or sending Washington types to police funerals he has a total lack of any respect for the thin blue line between peace and total anarchy and mayhem, rahm you have also opened the toll gates to allow police to be torn apart all beacuse you will not man up and resign!
"...will randomly select..."
Beware the word "random" - this word has had its meaning altered in recent years. It now very often means, "when whites are somehow targeted."
3/25/2016 06:05:00 PM
Random = they are just picking off one at a time.
Targeted = they are just picking off one at a time.
Either way, never mind the man behind the curtain. Don't worry, be happy. Not part of any general upward trend in slaughter, looting, etc. -- and they are going to keep diddling with CompStat, downgrading offenses or refusing to take reports altogether, to help keep it that way.
Looks like the Emanuel Clan will have a new Havana address real soon
Did the missus leave her wedding dress in a basement there ?
"There are many more poor whites. I don't hear about drive by shootings everyday in Appalachia."
3/25/2016 11:15:00 PM
It is rough, though. Morgantown, W. Va. is the heroin-overdose center of the U.S. right now. The Obama administration's War On Coal had pushed unemployment to over 20% in former mining areas. You see this downstate here too. It had a lot to do with the rural/semi-rural do-it-yourself meth explosion. I know people who moved to what they thought was going to be a "retreat" and the ones up the road turned out to be a bunch of crank zombies with the obligatory five dismantled cars out front, cooking away on that stuff, crawling around the fields at night burning the s__t out of themselves stealing ag ammonia for the process, flashing lights and yelling and shooting at hallucinations up in the trees all the time and endlessly "guarding their property" as though there was anything there but dirty diapers and busted chairs and so forth.
Not a pretty picture.
Get rid of 70% of alderman , biggest waste of tax payer money .
Return the 3% COLA at the mandatory retirement age , this will give Police Officers a reason to stay on on share knowledge with rookies .
Also get rid of duty availability , replace it with 6% pensionable pay increase for 3rd Watch and 8% for 1st Watch .
Incentive to get experienced officers off desk duty and off 2nd Watch . Win. Win . Last 4 years Officers will be bidding for 1st &3rd Watches.
Will open up spots on second watch .
Btw SCC off topic but just wanted to put this out there : my buddy from 015 told me couple days ago that a sergeant on afternoons told the troops in roll call that the reason the Dets got shot at in 011 the other day was because nobody is doing stops anymore in our district...
Unf*king believable. Is this what passes as management the days? After my boiling blood cooled down I just realized it's not worth it anymore. I realized that we have a lot of house mouses out there that were never the police or worked the ghetto streets enough to understand what the troops go through out here. They've drank large amounts of the Kool Aide and they'll regurgitate anything just to stir up young watches to their mindless mantra of more ISRs.
Wednesday I took the stats from my district’s three tac teams and two mission teams and gave them to justice. The kid second from last got made meritorious Sgt. I showed the how clout babies get made Lt. and then only spend a few days in patrol based on who they were married to and who their parents were. Two parents were on the job gets you only two days in patrol! Pictures of shitty vehicles and C.O. book orders over the last couple of years that were bullshit/illegal. Glad I made copies because as soon as it was announced that justice was coming a whole lot of pages went missing from the old C.O. books.
Everyone wants fop to do something for them. Well how many of you hard chargers took the time to go to fop and talk to the justice department? Why was turn out was poor? Because all of the brave anonymous posters here were afraid to step up to the plate. But let’s see how many unqualified goofs decide it’s time to make a couple of meetings so I can run for treasurer or another office. Shit I almost can balance my check book that should qualify me for office!
OT.
Alderman blames 'poverty' for a shooting. Are these goofs ever going to quit? DOesn't everyone live in a grass hut in Africa? Are there a lot of drive-bys there? I don't know. And you'd think the impoverished would steal candy bars to relieve their plight, not shoot each other.
YAWN
These morons are completely lost. There are many more poor whites. I don't hear about drive by shootings everyday in Appalachia. I don't hear about executing opposing gang members 9 year old son in the Deep South. This is all complete agenda driven bullshit.
I guess since you didnt hear about it, it never happened.
3/26/2016 10:19:00 AM
Nice response.
Since you know so much about it, why don't you enlighten us?
Or are you gonna babble about serial killers and school shootings?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT.
Alderman blames 'poverty' for a shooting. Are these goofs ever going to quit? DOesn't everyone live in a grass hut in Africa? Are there a lot of drive-bys there? I don't know. And you'd think the impoverished would steal candy bars to relieve their plight, not shoot each other.
YAWN
On a side note speaking of poverty and grass huts and no drive bys....I remember one time back when I came on the job in Oct 1995. I was working with a black copper in 007 and I asked him why so many people in 007 did not clean up their yard and houses and why their was garbage everywhere. (Mind you I was new and grew up in Northlake) He responded "That's what happens when you are poor" (AKA the white man keeping you down is what he was getting at) then I responded that city garbage collection is free and it cost nothing to pick up trash in your home or yard and I explained how I didn't get the correlation between being poor and filthy. I figured if you were home all day, unemployed that you'd have a cleaner house and yard than mine because I'm working all day. Oh and since this time I went to Colombia and met my wife. She was poor as could be. Making $600/month living in a shack but a heart of gold and a good person with a pretty Colombian face to boot. Her $200/month home with plastic patio furniture in her home? Spotless. No dirt. No grime. No roaches. No garbage strown about. So being poor has nothing to do with shootings or cleaning up garbage. Oh and my wife never did any drive bys in Colombia (at least that I know of). Needless to say that cop asked the WC to not work with my anymore. The truth...Ah how it hurts sometimes.
3/26/2016 08:10:00 AM
Same here.
My mother's family was poor as could be.
But the house was always immaculate, the few clothes they had were always clean and the five children knew right from wrong and had good manners.
Education was valued above 'things' and every single one of them grew up to be stable, responsible citizens.
They had self-respect.
No one gives you that, or takes it from you. It's on YOU to have it, or not.
As of being charged for lying to Feds, no AUSA will take a case of the person has not been read their Miranda warnings. New DoJ guidelines, for FBI and ATF mostly, state that the interviews must be recorded. So..... If you find yourself in a room with a guy/gal that identified themselves as a DOJ agent, who tells you are being recorded and reads you your rights you should only have one response "I need an attorney" repeat as necessary.
Anonymous said...
OT- Once again the infamous 012 dist Bobblehead is berating good Sgts in the common areas of the station in full view of PO's. Very classy commander.
3/25/2016 06:04:00 AM
Is the Commander "berating" or is he "busting balls"? I hope you know the difference. Also, grow a pair of balls and you'll find a berating and or a ball busting won't bother you so much. For goodness sake you're a big city policeman, act like it!
Anonymous said...
Are they gonna interview Glenn Evans. At least they'll get an earfull
3/26/2016 08:14:00 AM
An Earful and a Mouthful!! Love G/E!
Anonymous said ...
Actually, I think many people have weighed in on several topics over the past two years regarding the FOP's inaction.
Go back and read up on them here.
The rank and file will NOT re-elect Dean or any of the current FOP board for their failure to properly represent us!
3/26/2016 07:14:00 AM
********
Let me guess YOU are running for office and you're qualified because?
Boys and girls never ever vote for anyone who was on the city wide team or even loosely associated with it.
PS if this is Marty please come back to another meeting and give another bullshit speech so we (even people who never agree on anything) boo you out of the building for the third time. PLEASE give it arrest till October.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT
Mayor going to ask Fop members if they want raises in pay or Cost of living increase
for retired members.
Divide and conquer. ......
3/25/2016 08:03:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Stupid troll.
The courts have ruled, pension benefits cannot be diminished nor impaired.
The COLA stays!
==========================================
I don't know if he/she is a troll or not, but whoever it is, is definitely not stupid. There is a class of retirees out here that were born after the last COLA law was enacted and went into effect that DO NOT receive one. I was born before that date and have the standard 3% non-compounding COLA and my partner who retired after me but is younger, DOES NOT have one. Not certain but fairly confident that it is up to Springfield anyways and is out of rahms hands, other than, perhaps, him lobbying on it's behalf.
Maybe understand or know your contract better before being so heavy handed with your comments.
3/26/2016 07:15:00 AM
Nice response.
Since you know so much about it, why don't you enlighten us?
Or are you gonna babble about serial killers and school shootings?
3/26/2016 03:41:00 PM
In the United States, the majority of reported and investigated serial killers are white males, from a lower-to-middle-class background, usually in their late twenties to early thirties. However, there are African American, Asian, and Hispanic (of any race) serial killers as well, and, according to the FBI, based on percentages of the U.S. population, whites are not more likely than other races to be serial killers.
Except, of course, when you have stepped in some deep shit, and need some help and don't know where to turn, then maybe it's time to call a liar.
Yes you are correct about that, but it still doesn't change they all LIE.
If I was one of the retired old-timers with the reputation of several under their belt, I'd be sweating bullets (no pun intended)!
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