City Pays Out Again
We suppose the media will count this $2 million against their running total the police have cost taxpayers:
- The city has settled a lawsuit filed by two police officers who alleged they were retaliated against for helping to expose corruption.
That $2 million settlement, announced Tuesday as the trial in the lawsuit was about to start, means there will be no need for Mayor Rahm Emanuel to testify about statements he has made in recent months denouncing a “code of silence” inside the Chicago Police Department.
“That’s an amount we concluded makes sense for the city and for taxpayers,” Steve Patton, Chicago’s corporation counsel, said Tuesday at the Dirksen Federal Courthouse after the settlement was announced.
But what exactly is at the root of all this?
- But lawyers for Echeverria and Spalding claim Internal Affairs Chief Juan Rivera blew their cover. Spalding and Echeverria were branded “rat motherf——” and told that their bosses didn’t want them in their units. Their actions allegedly made the brass so angry that Spalding was warned to “wear her vest” so she wouldn’t be shot in the parking lot for crossing the thin blue line.
Patton said the city wants to encourage such whistleblowing, not discourage it — and, he said, “there was no dispute that the employment actions that they complained about actually occurred” — though, he noted, all the alleged retaliation all took place before Emanuel took office.
That would be the multiple "merit" pick Chief of IAD? A bureau so corrupted that no less than six individuals "scored" high enough on a compromised exam to make the first class of lieutenants after a secret study group at HQ studied the actual test. And how many more in the class coming out this week?
And bosses at Homan Square? A place so full of clout and connections that a supervisor roster would match up closely with every "merit" list of the past decade while the rank-and-file would be a "Who's Who" of connected families and favors owed. Even the plaintiffs are connected for Pete's sake.
So the penalty against Rivera will be......oh wait, he retired with a 6-digit pension. And the personnel dumps at Homan Square begin when?
Code of silence? Among the connected, clouted and political.
And bosses at Homan Square? A place so full of clout and connections that a supervisor roster would match up closely with every "merit" list of the past decade while the rank-and-file would be a "Who's Who" of connected families and favors owed. Even the plaintiffs are connected for Pete's sake.
So the penalty against Rivera will be......oh wait, he retired with a 6-digit pension. And the personnel dumps at Homan Square begin when?
Code of silence? Among the connected, clouted and political.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
110 Comments:
That "code of silence " includes the media. Don't ask any hard questions and they will still get access to the politicos for sound bites and fluff piece stories.
Amen ssc and please get rid of the Green
This girl had no business being on this job anyway. Always bragged about how her clout would put her somewhere where she wouldn't have to do anything. People didn't want to work with her for a whole bunch of other reasons before the fact that she was labeled as a snitch.
Oh darn...
We wanted to see Rahm The Weasel
get his shitty little ass skinned
and cooked on the witness stand.
You know... Since he waxed so eloquently
on a supposed Police Code of Silence
after rushing to cut a check for LmcD's
Ghetto Lotto winning survivors.
What about snatching the covers off the
Political Code of Silence seeing as how
the City Council voted in virtual secrecy
to approve payment?
If the entrance to the council chambers
were a crime scene, one would be
greeted by the visual of some frayed and shitty,
turned inside-out drawers, the remains of a vibrantly colorful wig,
a set of dentures with some teeth missing and a stiletto
pump with a broken heel...
"The Police are the problem..."
The city only wants it encouraged as long it doesn't involve the clouted.
These two were in heavy phone call units for years. If it was such a hostile work environment why didn't they leave? And other then their word what proof did they have that any of this occurred?
Rivera had the handwriting skills of a 3 year old. He threw me under the bus as soon as he had no need for me.
The City is so full of shit. How about a ribbon award for whistleblowers?
Speaking of paying out, many of us were detailed to the Beyonce concert this weekend, and no we did not volunteer, but while there a certain employee of Soldier Field let it be known that the deva known as Beyonce did not like the carpet in her suite/dressing room so the powers that be had it replaced to the tune of $25,000! Yes, thats a TWENTY FIVE with THREE ZEROs!!!
Oh, and relating to the two individuals receiving the above settlement, one only needs to talk to their co-workers from about a dozen years ago to find out that this is truly a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Question is, Are their any more cases that the City and Department are covering
up on?
We all know that the closet is deep and full of rumors of this kind of misconduct
by Department Supervisors who believe that moving personnel out of job assignments without cause.
This is standard procedure for management when they
want to limit officers just because they can not because they have proof.
Sounds more like official misconduct since the supervisors did these actions to
promote themselves and for their own benefit.
Not a cop.
It does not matter, right now, all the police, rightly or wrongly are assumed to be corrupt.
The Koschmann coverup? No patrol officers were involved. Doesn't matter, you wear blue, you are assumed guilty.
Laquan McDonald coverup? Everyone knows it was Rahm and his minions. Doesn't matter you wear blue, you are assumed guilty.
It will take years for the CPD to overcome the distrust, and if Chicago keeps electing crooks and criminals, the police will never recover their reputations.
All you can do perform your job with integrity. Demand your partner do the same.
(Drop a dime anonymously to the DOJ on the clouted clowns and the alderthieves.)
Called it. No way would they let him be questioned under oath.
Plus Rivera now is head of security at Pete's produce now unreal....
dummies settle
should have gone thru all the way
and would have received millions
This would make a great story for any press outlet, however nobody will talk to them but an anonymous police blog. Catch-22, anyone?
The Daley-Emanuel Democratic death spiral continues.
That's 7 million dollars paid out to cover Rahm's ass.
If the aldermen are so set on transparency and fixing the system you must start at the top w/ the Mayor. Let's see if the reject the settlement and force Rham to testify. I highly doubt it. Last minute pay out = Rham won't testify to anything. I guess the lawyers and the cops involved don't really believe in change - just a quick $.
Business As usual!
I did not get into natcotics because I was white and my white commander was only putting in African Americans for merit Sgt's. I want a million dollars also.
Rahm skips testifying = Rahm avoids perjury. City pays, Rahm stays slippery enough to always wriggle free
Rivera.....was and always will be a triple POS; gargle my sac! And to that fat toad that started juan's meteoric rise after he should have been terminated.... thanks for forcing that jag upon the Dept. He wasn't qualified to sell retried beans on 26th street.....so let's make him the ADS of IAD!!!! Fucking joke, a sad one at that.
I wonder if criminal charges could be filed against the real rat for his alleged actions? This reminds me of the movie Serpico. Al Pacino played the role of an honest NYPD Detective in similar circumstances who was shot after being exposed as a "rat motherf*#cker" and ended up living in Switzerland. It seems the clouted and connected are the problem. The statement that city "saved money" by settling this case is a joke. Malfeasance cost the city big money. It wouldn't have cost the city anything if the suspicions of honest officers were dealt with properly in the first place. I t seems that looking the other way and and keeping ones mouth shut is what they are encouraging. Almost like an official endorsement of ignoring corruption and staying fetal. Fortunately these ifficers prevailed and can hold their heads high while the city "saved money" and others ride off into the sunset with their gold braid pensions and retirement stars.
If the one officer was retaliated against, why did they cover-up a sustained CR against her?
Looks like those two showed their true colors, they could not make it as cops so they went for the ghetto lottery pay out. They did'nt even get much money for having ruined their reputations. These two had the ability to make a difference and they just took a few bucks and ran off when rahm told them to. What was up with them holding hands during the press conference??
The bottom line in everything is politics, but not just ordinary politics. It is the politics of racial and ethnic clout. There must be numbers of hispanics, blacks and women promoted and put into positions of authority. If they are competent to hold those positions, well,that is an added bonus. But, nevertheless this will happen. And, on the other side, there are many incompetent whites who are promoted , some with merit and some make it on their own. There must be a better way?? Surely there is.
I still can't figure out why anybody would do any work for one of those bosses.
OUCH.
I welcome RAHMbelina to the code of silence unit.
Mighty midget Emmanuel was so scared to cross the thin blue line he offered 2 million in pay out money from the City Coffers.
Is the DOJ calling in anyone on this case that just cost the taxpayer 2 million?
Doubt it.
Once again IAD is found to be corrupt with merit appointments but i Did not see anything about merit picks in the Fibune.
The paper hollering about what needs to be out of a contract yet the mayor can't test-a-lie about corruption he hates?
You media types have just witnessed that CODE of City hall throw money at the problem and it will not testify.
So FOIA all those files for that case and witness nothing because IAD is the problem.
There's no code of silence on this job anymore. People tattle on each other all the time. It's an accepted practice now.
Juan Rivera was undoubtedly one of the dumbest bosses I came across on CPD. He is the perfect example of what's wrong with the merit system. Triple merit and actually should have never been on the job.
It may be obtained in a dirty and distasteful way, but the intelligence that comes out of Homan Square is super valuable in the war on crime and corruption.
Just collect your money and go away losers
I don't believe that thier supervisors said anything to these 2 regarding thier safety. Especially knowing that these 2 were talking to the Feds. She will now sue for emotional stress and go on disability.
gee, if they are giving out money for this kind of conduct by the bosses, I think the blue shirts are owed at least a billion dollars.
Mr. Emmanuel you appear to have knowledge of a "code of silence" based on your comments in the past. Mr Emmanuel have you ever been part of that so called "code of silence", say on or about November 2014? Is it or is it not true that you in fact observed a video of a officer involved shooting and ordered that it be kept sealed while you were seeking reelection as Mayor of the City of Chicago? Mr. Emmanuel is it true that you observed the video the next day? Then authorized City of Chicago Legal Department to fight to keep it from the public while you ran for office in a heated race? In fact you authorized 5 million is "hush" money to keep it quiet? Isn't it true Mr. Emmanuel that only after the legal dept. lost its battle did you order the release of the video? Who has a "code of silence"? Did you really think city legal was going to allow Rahm on the stand, to run the risk of perjury? Not a chance, 2 million more in "hush" money. Nothing to see here, move along.
Maybe Rahm will use the Daley malady. Have a minor "stroke" every time a subpoena comes his way and be "unable" to co-operate.
Why not have doj signal juan back in? Why don't the whistle blowers lawyers look into this? just like the SOS scandal the coppers that suffered are all 9161 patrolmen, the bosses who obviously new about this just skated away! If you have a gold star you have a free ride, except for Glen "Gold stars got yo back" Evans, who they threw to the wolves so much for the gold star mushes brotherhood! Eddie there was thread about the massive data dump where your of course involved of dumping over 100 videos of working coppers caught doing their jobs,just in time for the hot months ahead "timing is everything" it is well said and this timing boom nothing like igniting another fuse!
This payout was done simply to save rahm, while coppers are compelled rahm freely throws taxpayers money at the problem after all it is not his money! Ever see rahms rolling thunder huge suburbans that banter him and his family everywhere, even rolling though "The light was jello officer" stoplights? The green mayor,enforces regulations like recycling and he shuts down coal plants like com eds on 35th and Pulaski that produced needed energy now our bills for that utility are skyrocketing! Who is getting the pac campaign contributions?
I don't know the two plaintiffs, what they did or didn't do within their specialized unit, but will the next lawsuit concerning those former mayor's security detail staffers garner a hefty "we better settle or we'll have to disclose secrets, settlement" as well ?
I agree that City Hall and The Merit Run Dept is fraught will their secret codes and favors aplenty, but sometimes it's just plain old sour grapes too, with a steady midnight tour in a shit-district to boot.
The mayor's office is still fighting a FOIA with the Tribune over Rahm's email usage that he refuses to disclose. Wonder what the cost of that is so far. Oh, could that be the Code of Silence he refers to?
The City is paying off, why not take advantage of it.
Good for them.
I'm not disputing this case was about CPD bosses screwing up and screwing these officers over.
However I do find it awfully ironic that in a trial where Rahm most likely would've had to testify about his boneheaded comment that the city magically settles just hours before the trial was to begin.
Regardless of what the talking heads say settling this case had everything to do with keeping that weasel Rahm off the stand.
This is due to the fact that he doesn't want this hanging over his head as he goes to dc with Hilary! This city will be our problem again come sept.
I don't think Rahm's testimony about the "code of silence" was the issue. It is the potential that the "code of silence" about how clout works in the police department and the city hall connection that the city was afraid to expose.
The lawyers...start with the IDIOT lawyer that files the motion agreeing to the code of silence
So the same old story continues. Why even bother writing or talking about it? Will anything ever change scc?
People who stand up to the political class minions always suffer retaliation. Standard operating procedure in all City departments. There are a lot of automatons in every department who'd throw their mother under the bus if they were instructed to.
Dummies settle
should have gone thru all the way
and would have received millions
Hope they didn't just take the cash. I would of asked for 2000 hrs on the books. Meritorious promo to captain with 3 years on so u can retire with that pension.. Now had is gonna uphold all their numbers if they stay on and get them fired so as to not collect a pension
So does everyone at IAD and IPRA deserve a whistleblower settlement? Unreal.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
dummies settle
should have gone thru all the way
and would have received millions
6/01/2016 04:11:00 AM
I see some merit promotions in their fitures.
So the city pays out the clout heavy snitches and rham doesn't have to testify.. Looks like everyone gets what they want in the end. Hold on let me 19p my job and go eat my chicken taco And try not to get any get on my blue shirt!
Sue Gene Williams and get a deposition under oath from all promoted to Lt. Then decertify and fire everyone of the cheaters. Let's see how they sing.
I love it. Only in Chicago.
The city pays HUSH MONEY to keep the Mayor off the witness stand in a case about the CODE OF SILENCE.
Question from long time retiree what units are at Homan Square
OT but very significant --
Polish Population Plummets On Far NW Side As Residents Head To Suburbs
June 1, 2016
"Portage Park, the community area that's home to the city's largest number of Polish residents, has lost about 41 percent of that population since 2000, according to U.S. Census data. The shift was even more pronounced in neighboring Belmont Cragin, where the Polish population dropped 55 percent, according to the data.
"In Dunning and Edison Park, the Polish population dropped 20 percent in each community area, according to the data.
"The story is much the same in Jefferson Park, where the Polish population dropped 17 percent, and in Norwood Park and Forest Glen, where it declined 14 percent, according to U.S. Census data..."
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160601/portage-park/polish-population-plummets-on-far-nw-side-as-residents-head-suburbs
That is the template for any other P.O.. Find a coverup, sue the city, claim a code of silence, subpoena the mayor buy new home somewhere warm
Anonymous said...
I did not get into natcotics because I was white and my white commander was only putting in African Americans for merit Sgt's. I want a million dollars also.
6/01/2016 07:25:00 AM
The fact that many people are put in for merit promotions by people for whom they have never worked should tell you a whole lot about the process.
That's 7 million dollars paid out to cover Rahm's ass.
6/01/2016 06:49:00 AM
To Rahm, Laquan was nothing more than a political hurdle to overcome and these two had a suit that came up for trial at exactly the right time Rahm needed to cover his ass again.
So, he authorized multi-million dollar settlements to cover himself. What the hell, it's not HIS money that he's flinging around.
Having all the City's treasury to play with is waaaaay better than having a meager campaign chest fund.
Their old commander from the fugative unit called them out on Perry Small WVON this morning. How they were both catered to, given Cush assignments at the academy and they weren't happy. Said that many would give their eye teeth to have had the opportunity these two had. While they may not be RATS they sure as hell are whiny ass CRYBABIES. Wah I didn't get to be a Sgt. Wah I wanted to be a cool Det.
Take your dirty money and walk.
2 million? They bought them off cheap! This tells me that they probably never intended to even fight the city or really expose the corrupted bosses involved in this whole mess. If what they claim really happened, they should have continued on mere principle. Everyone has a price in this shit town.
OT, Hope his veto holds!
P&I
Minnesota governor vetoes bill to cut COLAs for 2 large state pension plans
Rick Baert
June 1, 2016
A Minnesota bill that would have cut cost-of-living adjustments for retirees in the Minnesota Teachers Retirement Association and Minnesota State Retirement System, both of St. Paul, was vetoed Tuesday by Gov. Mark Dayton.
Under the bill, the retiree cost-of-living adjustment for the $20.4 billion teachers pension fund would have been halved, to 1%; while the adjustment for the $22 billion SRS would have been trimmed to 1.75% from 2%.
The bill had also included cutting the teachers plan's long-term assumed rate of return to 8% from the current 8.5%, which would then have matched the state retirement system's return assumption. But a proposal by MTRA to increase its employer contribution rate 1 percentage point to 8.5% was omitted from the bill passed by the state House and Senate on May 22.
Mr. Dayton in a letter to legislators said the COLA cuts, without “shared commitments” from employers and current employees, led him to veto the bill. He said the pension bill “contains only one piece of the overall sustainability plans, placing sole responsibility for reducing plan liabilities on current retirees. It is not fair, and I cannot agree to it.”
WTF? How blatant can you be?!! Its in plain view, the mayor had the taxpayor's payoff his accusors- so that coward of a mayor wouldn't hit the witness stand!!!!
Maybe I am stupid, maybe so gullible.....code of silence huh?
I know there is issues with nepotism, favoritism, test cheating and other nuisances that come with working in a politically motivated environment,.......but Code Of Silence!?!
That is a bunch of media stirring, socialistic pot stirring!!! This is such an old big lie!!! And those who don't know it better wake up.
I see no code of silence, worked with many different areas with various officers, and all though I've met some weirdos.....I have never seen anyone attempt to cover up...........I can't even write ....this pisses me off.
Between the code of silence, and this rampant racism, the obvious police brutality and secret detention camp at Holman square, we are playing world of Warcraft, or a brilliant Harry Potter game!!! Who's buying into this crap?
As for the cry babies saying the police are so mean and sneaky that it facilitates a lawsuit......... You are both punks, and I'd tell you where to get off but I can't be obscene on SCC......
Let's see medical abusers....and now punks!!
Prince Valium
Went to Lewis College with Rivera . About as arrogant as one can be . That was when he was a sergeant . I heard Zorro is looking for the Spanish sergeant . U don't need a costume !
This lawsuit was as ridiculous at the Mayor's detail handjobs. Cry, cry, cry, over their political spots shifting. Get the fuck out of here and learn how to be a police officer.
These 2 assholes got "dumped" to Fugitive after the Narcotics stint if I recall correctly.
Boo Fucking Hoo.
Wait until Toni precwinkles is mayor.
The bottom line is it was reported that their attorneys took app. one million which leaves them with one million to 'split' between the two or 500 K each. People (or folks) get five million clear just with an unproven allegation vs. the City/PoPo.
Just sayin'.
Every sustained CR# and the subsequent suspension or termination that happened under Rivera's reign at IAD should be investigated by the feds. Rivera should be in prison for fucking with people's lives.
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This department is completely mismanaged. You have bosses in positions they should not be in and competent qualified blue shirts that should be bosses but don't have any clout. Corruption and clout rule this department and it will never change. Homan square, HQ, detached services, etc. are all full corrupt clout babies and politically connected supervisors. Wait until the next federal corruption lawsuit works its way through the pipeline. Rahm better get his checkbook out again.
HEY! How about a "Second Chance" from our Honorable Crook County Court Clerk Office. See the list of sponsors -
http://12.218.239.52/newsite/GI_NEWS/Expungement2016flyerFINAL.pdf
Nice to see that once again the Chicago Police Department is a primary sponsor. Isn't this in complete contradiction of what Superintendent Johnson is saying now at every press conference and our core function?
WTF!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-superintendent-eddie-johnson-met-0601-20160531-story.html
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2016/05/eddie-gets-thissort-of.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-officer-shot-met-0324-20160324-story.html
Almost like an official endorsement of ignoring corruption and staying fetal. Fortunately these ifficers prevailed and can hold their heads high while the city "saved money" and others ride off into the sunset with their gold braid pensions and retirement stars.
6/01/2016 07:32:00 AM
Naïve simpletons like you are the reason we keep paying out on these ridiculous lawsuits. You don't know a thing about these two or their case. All bad news, but you think it's OK to give up $2 million of the tax payers money so our Mayor doesn't have to testify under oath.
Serpico, by the way, was no angel and the movie was pure fiction as most are. Ask our New York readers to chime in on him.
Do some homework before you give your opinion next time.
The $2 million settlement for Shannon Spaulding and Danny Echeverria is a disgrace! They did not deserve a single penny. They both were horrid employees, talented liars, con-artists and the worse police officers and human beings that I have ever met in my entire 30 year police career. These two should be counter sued for defamation and slander against the Defendants. Let me have a media contact and I will "Blow the Whistle" on those two. I have facts about how they used their police career to plot, plan and orchestrate this entire lawsuit to get money from the City. The city attorneys were made aware of these facts and wanted them out in trial, but Rahm ordered settlement. Shame on all the former police exempt members who catered to them and kept them in prime police units after hundreds of complaints on their unethical and unprofessional behavior in each unit....you know who you are!
"This girl had no business being on this job anyway. Always bragged about how her clout would put her somewhere where she wouldn't have to do anything. People didn't want to work with her for a whole bunch of other reasons before the fact that she was labeled as a snitch.
6/01/2016 12:32:00 AM"
If she had the clout claim you claims she does, then she wouldn't have been dragged through the ringer. The call would have been made to back off and that would be it. Obviously you're white shirt one trick pony, bag man, who's crapping in his drawers that the next knock on your door will be the Eeds.
I hear alot of people commenting about disability for these two goofs. Sorry your two late. They were granted full disability in December or January. Thats right these two clowns will get full paychecks until age 63 on our backs plus $500,000 a piece. SS was a medical abuser beyond all belief. I worked in Narcotics for 8 years and had no idea who these two were. I was told you haven't seen them because they are never at work. The system of corruption created by City Hall and the Aldercrooks caused this not the police officers.
Now expose all their personal over ups and show what kind of idiots they are too.
Not a cop.
It does not matter, right now, all the police, rightly or wrongly are assumed to be corrupt.
The Koschmann coverup? No patrol officers were involved. Doesn't matter, you wear blue, you are assumed guilty.
Laquan McDonald coverup? Everyone knows it was Rahm and his minions. Doesn't matter you wear blue, you are assumed guilty.
It will take years for the CPD to overcome the distrust, and if Chicago keeps electing crooks and criminals, the police will never recover their reputations.
All you can do perform your job with integrity. Demand your partner do the same.
(Drop a dime anonymously to the DOJ on the clouted clowns and the alderthieves.)
Perform? I'm not doing a damn thing anymore. I could care less what citizens think. Demand? I'm demanding my partner do the aforementioned nothing. Drop a anonymous dime? Nothing is anonymous. Go away!
To the best of my recollection there are no units at Homan Square that are bidable. If they want to dump you they can dumb you they dont need a fucking reason. They want their friend in, your out. Thats how that shit works. You dont like it dont go there. Fucking whining bitches.
Is it true the female is Captain Karyn Murphy's sister??
Watch this Rahman mentor Obama from news event today stammering about Trump:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/wow-obama-tries-trash-donald-trump-turns-stuttering-mess/
Watch the video on page the leaders of other countries must be laughing Obama cannot even put sentence together then you hear Trump talk no fear go Trump!
Went to Lewis College with Rivera . About as arrogant as one can be . That was when he was a sergeant . I heard Zorro is looking for the Spanish sergeant . U don't need a costume !
6/01/2016 05:22:00 PM
Really because Rivera never went to Lewis you fucking moron
I'm a retired cop. Is it right to keep your mouth shut when you KNOW somebody is a thief? Come on, guys...this ain't the seventies anymore.
The only code Ive ever seen is the code of clout. I dont know WTF they are talking about with this silence thing. Boy this job and city is one big fucked up mess.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't think Rahm's testimony about the "code of silence" was the issue. It is the potential that the "code of silence" about how clout works in the police department and the city hall connection that the city was afraid to expose.
6/01/2016 10:44:00 AM
A 'code of silence' is a conspiracy to commit or cover up a crime.
Clout is something entirely different.
ENTIRELY different.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is due to the fact that he doesn't want this hanging over his head as he goes to dc with Hilary! This city will be our problem again come sept.
6/01/2016 10:34:00 AM
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The only way he's going anywhere with Hillary is as her valet. He's been a monumental failure as a big-city mayor and he isn't vice-prez material. Huma Abedin probably has the Chief of Staff job locked up, so the only place for Rahm is ambassador to Cuba. Maybe something to do with Israel. But he's a pariah right now and a political liability to a struggling Presidential candidate.
"Just another story in the Clouted City",,,,,,,,queue music.............
Preckwinkle doesn't want to be mayor, silly - she wants HER guy (or gal) to be mayor!
Every day that the promotional scandal goes unaddressed is another day closer to it being swept under the rug
OT, Hope his veto holds!
P&I
Minnesota governor vetoes bill to cut COLAs for 2 large state pension plans
Rick Baert
June 1, 2016
A Minnesota bill that would have cut cost-of-living adjustments for retirees in the Minnesota Teachers Retirement Association and Minnesota State Retirement System, both of St. Paul, was vetoed Tuesday by Gov. Mark Dayton.
Under the bill, the retiree cost-of-living adjustment for the $20.4 billion teachers pension fund would have been halved, to 1%; while the adjustment for the $22 billion SRS would have been trimmed to 1.75% from 2%.
The bill had also included cutting the teachers plan's long-term assumed rate of return to 8% from the current 8.5%, which would then have matched the state retirement system's return assumption. But a proposal by MTRA to increase its employer contribution rate 1 percentage point to 8.5% was omitted from the bill passed by the state House and Senate on May 22.
Mr. Dayton in a letter to legislators said the COLA cuts, without “shared commitments” from employers and current employees, led him to veto the bill. He said the pension bill “contains only one piece of the overall sustainability plans, placing sole responsibility for reducing plan liabilities on current retirees. It is not fair, and I cannot agree to it.”
6/01/2016 03:45:00 PM
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We get screwed on COLA's already.
If you were born before 1955 you get a SIMPLE 3%
After 1955 you get a SIMPLE 1.5%
Everyone else except the CFD get a compounded Cola = not us!!
Anonymous said...
Question from long time retiree what units are at Homan Square
6/01/2016 01:16:00 PM
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Ssshhh -
Didn't ya know it's a secret.
Serpico, by the way, was no angel and the movie was pure fiction as most are. Ask our New York readers to chime in on him.
Do some homework before you give your opinion next time.
6/01/2016 07:39:00 PM
There is always a " back story" to these events. About 10 years ago I was in NY talking to some coppers there. They did not say anything nice about Serpico and it had nothing to do with him trying for reform. I am long retired and do not know these two officers who recently won this settlement. But, I do know that having clout is not always all encompassing. Clout may get you into a unit, but sometimes cannot save you when you screw up. And, your clout can move on and not be able to protect you. The best clout is blood connections to the political class. B ut, I am sure the comments are correct. The mayor did not want to testify so the city settled. I did not know they were granted disability also. What a deal.
Anonymous said...
"This girl had no business being on this job anyway. Always bragged about how her clout would put her somewhere where she wouldn't have to do anything. People didn't want to work with her for a whole bunch of other reasons before the fact that she was labeled as a snitch.
6/01/2016 12:32:00 AM"
If she had the clout claim you claims she does, then she wouldn't have been dragged through the ringer. The call would have been made to back off and that would be it. Obviously you're white shirt one trick pony, bag man, who's crapping in his drawers that the next knock on your door will be the Eeds.
6/01/2016 08:09:00 PM
The original poster is not claiming she had clout. He said she bragged about her clout.
Shannon's bf is also a schemer.Is he still on the medical, too stressed out to work?
Too many , just don't want to work once they figure out a scam and run with it.
Bring back medical integrity unit. In my district , perfectly abled officer trying for disability. Two officers told to go on the street from the desk both hit the medical. Two officers off on iod after an accident so minor, no damage to i.e. car. It's ridiculous and people need to be fired!
Good for them. And to those of you who say they were clouted amd spoiled... if they were clouted they would not have been f*cked with. Also to those who encourage counter suing these two officers... at no time did they go public and name a list of personnel. Know your sh*t before you talk. To those of you who knew them and claim they were the worst of the worst. If you know them well you are also clouted and are in spoiled units. Enjoy what you got and stfu. There are two standards in the department and we all know it. Without clout you're not sh*t. I am not getting fired for anyone. If you do sh*t that's going to get me 30 pending, you better believe i will sing like a bird. Don't care what the public thinks nor what the department thinks nor other officers and bosses think. My family and I and that's it. Call me a dog pu$$y snitch jag off so on and so forth but if you are a jag off and put me in the spot light I'm going to sing before the lights even come on. If you want to protect those who do wrong intentionally go right ahead because you are going down just as fast. Keep it simple. Do your job and do it right. Always CYA.
I'm soory but fu$& them - what goes around comes you mutts! In units and it still isn't enough -FU punks!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I hear alot of people commenting about disability for these two goofs. Sorry your two late. They were granted full disability in December or January. Thats right these two clowns will get full paychecks until age 63 on our backs plus $500,000 a piece. SS was a medical abuser beyond all belief. I worked in Narcotics for 8 years and had no idea who these two were. I was told you haven't seen them because they are never at work. The system of corruption created by City Hall and the Aldercrooks caused this not the police officers.
You are full of shit and have no idea what you are talking about. Quit lying I see the guy everyday in Fugitives and he is working Idiots like you start this shit just to work po's up
Just so you now, these goofs applied for and may be receiving a disability benefit. Check it out. Your 9% pension contribution hard at work. (for them)
Who was there lawyer?
Love how everyone is biitchin about the settlement with the city of Chicago, but not a word about all the money that is being stolen from ya (in a much smaller pot of gold) by all the exempts called a pension for the rest of their lives.
Now that is a crime!
Anonymous said...
Juan Rivera was undoubtedly one of the dumbest bosses I came across on CPD. He is the perfect example of what's wrong with the merit system. Triple merit and actually should have never been on the job.
6/01/2016 09:07:00 AM
He can't possibly be more dumb than Eugene Roy.
Let's not forget the the Superintendent's fiance cheated on the test. Fast Eddie was part of the cheating scandal! What is the DOJ doing about it! Nothing, because Eddie probably votes democratic.
These 2 shouldn't have gotten a dime, why didn't IAD look into the strong armed robbery they committed, once again Rivera protected them. No unit wanted them that's why they kept getting dumped. NO ONE wanted to work with them whatever unit they went to. I'm so disgusted that these 2 got anything, Karma is a bitch!!!!
To 6/2/2016 @ 743am, this is a definite Karyn Murphy post. Defend your sister who is a total piece of crap. She's getting what she deserves, a miserable life..just look at her...a pathetic hot mess. She NEVER suffered one day on this job, because she never worked an 8 hour day. Watch out you look like your headed for the same miserable path!
Capt. Karyn Murphy has no sister named Shannon
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just so you now, these goofs applied for and may be receiving a disability benefit. Check it out. Your 9% pension contribution hard at work. (for them)
6/02/2016 09:03:00 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
She is getting an ordinary disability (NOT duty) for stress.
So, she is getting 50% of her salary.
The fact that many people are put in for merit promotions by people for whom they have never worked should tell you a whole lot about the process.
6/01/2016 01:48:00 PM
Right on. This was always the first and most obvious part of the merit process that should have never been allowed. But then the entire merit process would have not worked the way it was truly designed to work for chicago politicos. The merit process was solely designed to promote clouted shit to higher ranks. This is exactly why the chicago police department has fallen to such despair over the past 20 years. The merit promoted clouted shit has been running the department, and their only focus is to retire early with a big pension. Not one of them have the intelligence to change the department, nor do they care to.
Rivera is presently under investigation by justice department for stepping on iAd complaints and Welch is next. Also watch what happens to some financial crimes detectives.
Working in HQ I find it so ironic that after these TWO filed their lawsuit and depositions were done why did The Brass involved leave the Department? Riddle me that? Coincidence or were they givien the opportunity to save their pensions? Common practice for those who F-Up!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just so you now, these goofs applied for and may be receiving a disability benefit. Check it out. Your 9% pension contribution hard at work. (for them)
6/02/2016 09:03:00 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
She is getting an ordinary disability (NOT duty) for stress.
So, she is getting 50% of her salary.
6/03/2016 06:45:00 AM
Free from income taxes...
so more like getting 75% of her actual salary?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just so you now, these goofs applied for and may be receiving a disability benefit. Check it out. Your 9% pension contribution hard at work. (for them)
6/02/2016 09:03:00 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
She is getting an ordinary disability (NOT duty) for stress.
So, she is getting 50% of her salary.
6/03/2016 06:45:00 AM
Free from income taxes...
so more like getting 75% of her actual salary?
6/03/2016 08:00:00 PM
Non-duty disability is taxable. That's what I was told.
Non-duty disability income is taxable. You get 50% of your salary. Getting it now.
Let's look at the big picture here. These 2 didn't tarnish the Badge they wear it was the ones that did Fed time for robbing dope lines! Let's not hate them for what many others knew what was going on and did nothing about it. I'd like to hear who really thought Nick Roti was a good boss? Or James Ogrady? Juan Rivera? Oh let us not forget Ernie (downtown) Brown! With all his sexual misconduct beefs? All these bosses were clout heavy! And all left the Department once this lawsuit got heavy!
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