Graham Wins
Word coming in that Graham has knocked off Silent Dean in the FOP runoff. Waiting for official word from somewhere. Interesting days ahead.
UPDATE: From the FOP site:
UPDATE: From the FOP site:
- Run-off Election Results, Kevin Graham-56.21% Dean Angelo-43.79%
Labels: FOP
posted by SCC at 4:31 PM
139 Comments:
Hopefully the new president will learn from this. Speak up for the troops, show the men and women in blue some support..
Dean angelo had funny quote. This quote goes to show he was on his knees the whole time when dealing with our Contract and rights and CBA agreement. Dean your a scum bag.
But Angelo said: “It’s easy to make statements that you’re going to do A, B and C. But when you get in that room, your temperament changes. It’s easy to write on a blog that you’re going to bring down the walls of Jericho. But when you come outside from your keyboard, you don’t have the wind to make a sound through the horn.”
The only air Dean had left was to blow the the city on his bad knees and not the horn for our officers.
Does this mean Dean is going back on disability?
that's some big news, if true.....now, time for the FOP to stand up....big time!
I had little faith in Dean.....I have none in Kevin. God help us
Fuck Dean. Good riddance. I hope Jrs bite at the merit apple was worth it. Rot in Hell, the both of you.
Hooray, lets not get caught up in the City Hall - Feet to the Fire rhetoric again and start negotiating for something we can keep and not water downed benefits.
As they shuffle the chairs around, switch nameplates and send in the decorators, I got a feeling something is going to get messed up in the transition ...again.
Change of address coming and/or will we have a Retired new FOP president soon?
Get some professional help for contract
Hope he remembers some day everyone retires. Don't forget those who served before you.
Russian Influence!
It was time. We looked really weak. The city lost respect for us because they didnt fear us and knew we wouldn't fight. The committee structure was in shambles. Members were paying $500 in annual dues and couldn't get services.
Go Kevin make the changes we need leadership the rudderless FOP now will be a force to be reckoned with looks like the 3 stooges friends of deans on the campaign committee are done, they tried to disqualify you never forget done let Bella talk you into giving the spies jobs! God bless you KG!
Unfortunately this is one of the fuckers that kept his mouth shut when he should of told shields to send the letter. This guy is all donahue. Which is bad. Not that dean was better but at least it takes jr out of the equation.
I voted for Graham. With that said, we as a members of this union need to let him know that we are watching over his shoulders and hold his feet to the fire.
bye,bye dean don't let the door hit you as you exit loser .
We were fucked either way
In 6 months the members will find fault with Graham. The only way for the FOP to be successful is for the members to attend the meetings and get involved with your union. Good Luck Kevin but you ain't a match for the Ballerina and his tricks. ♠
Wow trade one guy in rahms pocket for another guy in rahms pocket, guess Donahue is back running the union.
Sue for residency day 1 !!
Thank God! Anyone is better than Angelo. He doesn't fight for us and gave us a shit contract. No go retire and leave us alone. Hopefully Graham will ask for the world from the city. For starters how about residency lifted after 10 years of service.
You can bet the large majority of votes Angelo got were from the retirees. Active members know he'll give us a bag of shit.
Way to go guys. We just elected a President that moved everything to the burbs. Maybe he will negotiate the residency law for us?
Residency on the table now?
"Let the shames begin!"
Rank and file was heard loud and clear. Hopefully Graham doesn't stand by when we get shit on by the media.
Graham is going to do a great job. Change is good and Graham is right for the position at this time.
So who's in and who's out???
Rahm and the media got their guy. Watch how fast this guy rolls. Guarantees Rahm's reelection.
I hope ray casiano and dean Angelo take a deep swallow of humility. They treated the last administration like shit when leaving. Karma is a bitch fellas.
Back To School
We should have a LOUD voice in Chicago, not be treated like the enemy.
Congratulations Kevin! Don't let us down. Be the opposite of Angelo or you'll be a one term guy. Get better raises No more BS 10% over 5. No more 29 and a day. How about 25? No more last raise at 25 years. More vacation days. P-days. No more residency. Aim high. The city does.
Dean has left the building but he did get his kid made turn off the lights
Graham better use his head and clear out all the conniving harpies upstairs who sully the FOP year after year after year. Good luck!
"Silent Dean..."
Why any so-called man would kneel and
adopt a subservient posture before a
malignant, mentally and emotionally
misshapen manling like Rahm Emanuel
is beyond us.
Dean slavishly followed Rahm's
"Busyness" script...
A lot of intentionally meaningless
and unproductive actions that over time,
ultimately proved to be harmful to the
membership of FOP.
No sizzle and definitely no steak
except for Dean and his kid only.
Sleep well.
Both of you.
As for the new president?
We, not just the 3rd person us,
but WE, have got our eyes on YOU
and everything you do.
Betray this membership at your risk.
Congratulations Mr. President.
Shame on you Mr. immediate past president.
You're nothing but a low-down traitor and
the aid-er and abettor of the one who has
seen fit to be the cause of much grief to
our retirees and widows.
What about all the new police cruisers that we were promised?
Somebody better freeze Dean Angelo's FOP credit card before he runs it up like last time he lost!
I guess Dean retires as of his birthday?
Or, will he get the customary Springfield job?
Donahue is back in the driver's seat!
As the saying goes..."be careful what you ask for, you just might get it"! Graham the prez. Murray the 1st V.P. (his articles should be interesting. Hope he spells better than he speaks. Then there is Garza. A man with a serious gambling addiction who went to FOP conferences and had to be given an allowance so he would not piss all the money away on the slots or at the boats. Oh yea, he's now the FOP financial secretary.
Let's not forget who really runs the day-to-day FOP operations. It's the ladies in the office. I will bet Garza though they will be leaving in short time. Don't think they will put up with Mark and Bill who will really be running the FOP. Kevin is just the face for TV.
Good luck to you young officers. You have now made your bed. Try to get a good rest.
Don't wake up pissing and moaning from now on how you thought and were promised things will change.
Salute, Dean Angelo. Ciao!
Goodbye Gulfstream G500,
Hello King Air 350i.
(Get your golf shit off the plane, son)
(We be tired of dry cleaning bill for
your satanic Mason's apron)
Now get a flute and pipe the rats out of
The City.
Residency now!
Audit the Lodge
Did someone charge their Netflix sub.
to a non-residential address? Heard he was
really into 'Breaking Bad.'
Face it guys, you paid for a lot of things right down
to the nutmeg on the Thanksgiving pumpkin pie.
Residency! Residency! Residency!
now accepting wagers if D.A. gets airport
duty sitting in SUV with full-on AC
Does that mean he has to move back into the city or since he'll be on leave from the department can he live in his mansion on the north shore?
Thank goodness! Rahm's puppet is outta here! Adios Dean! You'll receive your just desserts in the after-life for what you did to us! Scumbag
does Graham have any children in the department with promotional aspersions?
Bye Felicia!!!
Dean, we seen Kevin with a Russian spy earlier 2day id ask for congressional
hearings that the election was hacked by the Russians?
He has a chance to prove to everyone he was the correct choice... not by vote count, by satisfaction of the MEMEBERS!
Let's put our differences aside- what matters now is unity in the FOP.
My Russian neighbor told me to vote for Graham. Is that considered meddle?
I guess my vote counted.
What i'd like to see is transparency on contract issues at hand. Not the jack in the box surprise like changing the pension for new guys ( 55 yrs minimum) or the surprise 70%/30% reimbursement rate for the ppo medical negotiated by dean in silence. How about guys utilizing second city and publishing our wish list for the next contract so the new regime can't say or more accurately sell us down the river. Retired members post here too.
Out with the old, in with the new. Good luck to the men and women in blue. Maybe this guy will have some balls and stand up for you guys, rather than be a hamster in that asshole mayors pocket.
Check out DNA Info's article on this.
Both Rahm and the Black Caucus are quoted in the article that they both want a lot of our contractual protections taken out of the next contract.... of course all in the name of "reform"
Graham needs to hit the ground running cause all Rahm and the Black Caucus want to do is take, take, take.
Pensions- make the city contribute.
Rahm lost more in this than Dean! Rahm just can't face the reality, that the Clinton/Obama eras are over. Rahm had his way with Dean on the last contract, but that was when Rahm still had a political career and could still play "Da Godfather", Pre-McDonald video. Today, Rahm is a political liability, as demonstrated by major Party leaders declining to even be seen with him, as was the case with when Hillary would come to town and avoided Rahm. And the old tactic of feeding some dirt, real or not, to his buddies in the Media, "Me Thinks";Backfired! Coppers were sharp enough to realize that if IAD had the goods on Graham, they would have suspended him on the spot. And the only time coppers read the two Chicago rags, it is when they stop a newspaper delivery truck or get a free copy at the Station. So now Rahm desperate for Black support will do what the Black Caucus tells him to do on the next Contract, which we all know is to coin Rahm's favorite word these days is: "Unacceptable". The Contract will probably be in arbitration when the Mayoral Primary comes up. So the only thing now is to see who will be the next Mayor of Chicago. Because one thing is for sure: We know who will NOT be reelected! Watch for each other, trust few. Congratulations Kevin! Baby "G"
Finally rid of Dimaria as well.
Why are all these guys calling for getting rid of residency? Correct me if I'm wrong, but residency isn't going anywhere so long as it continues to be state law. So that's gonna change at contract time.
But like the one guy on here said, AIM HIGH! Ask for it all.
Subsidized insurance for the maxed out but not yet 55!
Giving up residency is like getting your balls chopped off when you're in front of 9.5 finger midget negotiating your new contract.
DO NOT NEGOTIATE RESIDENCY!!!!!!
Negotiations would mean we have to give something up for it. Fucking file a suit like all the other major departments.
All right! Arbitration here we come!
Give nothing to this crooked, jagoff city!
1295 a month he gone
Cancel any Lodge-issued credit cards
Ask for a full audit.....tell them you suspect
Skifing (Explain he was "de-elected")
We want the same benefits the mayor, alderpeople, all the elite politicians seem to get but we just pay for!
The meritocracy dynasty comes to an end:
Grandfather, father (D.A.), son, daughter.
Kind of like Brexit and Donald Trump victory.
People fed up with govt. by and for the elite
Families: Bush, Clinton
Upset so ground shaking, coverage showing up on
Telemundo and RT
anything to the rumor D'Angelo was buying
hair gel at cost, then gifting certain TAC guys?
if you can be swayed with Brylcream, you have
no soul
Anonymous said...
We were fucked either way
4/12/2017 05:25:00 PM
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That is a perceptive point.
Blogger john said...
Pensions- make the city contribute.
4/12/2017 08:50:00 PM
Thant is the most important item by far!!
Does this mean that Dean can get back to hallowed halls of academia and shape the minds of the unknowing?
Hey Dean, enjoy your retro check !
There's a lot to fight for this upcoming contract (health for both active members and retirees, raises, time off, pension contributions, protections and due process for officers etc.) The LEAST of my worries in residency, the city will ask the world for that and it shouldn't be a priority for anyone on this job unless you're that much of a blowhard.
way to drain the swamp you idiots. Kevin Graham is as bad as the Clintons in Washington. And if you guys all think that Marty Prieb is going to be awesome for you think again. Yeah he is a great guy, writer and investigator on the wrongful conviction movement but that's all marty knows about and its all he cares about. Marty thinks that he will be able to fight the media... in the media. You cant fight the media in the media if they wont even give you a second of facetime on their station or paper. The public cant hear you when the media refuses to give you the time of day. Who are you going to yell at marty??? The only people who will be listening are coppers and we already know what we know, the public needs to know and they will never hear about it. Also, Marty will focus on nothing but the wrongful conviction movement 90 percent of the time. Kevin Graham ran on the Citywide ticket when they were in power. You guys just opened the door again for Donahue and Dougherty. THEY USED PRIEB SO THEY CAN GET BACK INTO POWER! They know marty was popular and they know people listened to him. Why do you think he was only offered A 2nd VP spot on the ticket? Why not president? Why not 1st VP? Because they only needed him to push the ticket through. You cant pass a contract when you stand firm all the time like a mule as these guys will try to do so they can "prove" a point to the membership but in the end the ENTIRE contract will go to arbitration and we will get destroyed. I know you guys think graham is the new guy but hes not.. Hes the old guard who got us in this situation. He is the gate keeper of the swamp and cost the state lodge over 100k dollars because of his incompetence. good luck to us all, were gonna need it.
Out with the old, in with the new. Good luck to the men and women in blue. Maybe this guy will have some balls and stand up for you guys, rather than be a hamster in that asshole mayors pocket.
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Who is new? Graham? Dougherty? Donahue? hahahahaahah, in with the new, that's a funny one. Guess you never heard of the citywide ticket from the early 2000s and mid 2000s. same crew, all of them.
"You can bet the large majority of votes Angelo got were from the retirees. Active members know he'll give us a bag of shit.
4/12/2017 05:50:00 PM"
You can't substantiate your claim, So STFU. Retirees weren't happy with thieving Dean either. It's now up to us collectively to hold Grahams feet to the fire, or send him packing in the next election.
I have yet to receive my election ballot. What's up with that?
now accepting wagers if D.A. gets airport
duty sitting in SUV with full-on AC
4/12/2017 07:38:00 PM
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Dean is retiring and more than likely getting a high spot in the state or national lodge.
"For starters how about residency lifted after 10 years of service.
4/12/2017 05:44:00 PM"
Residency should no longer be a condition of employment at the date of hire, it should be offered to all Officers regardless of tenure.
Salute, Dean Angelo. Ciao!
Goodbye Gulfstream G500,
Hello King Air 350i.
(Get your golf shit off the plane, son)
(We be tired of dry cleaning bill for
your satanic Mason's apron)
Now get a flute and pipe the rats out of
The City.
^^^^^
You got something against the King Air 350i??? The king air is a beautiful aircraft and is quite capable.
The membership should hold a referendum every two years so we don't have to wait so long to boot FOP leadership if they're not doing right by their members.
Fuck it....make it once a year !
Does that mean he has to move back into the city or since he'll be on leave from the department can he live in his mansion on the north shore?
4/12/2017 07:40:00 PM
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He will still be employed by the department.
Reassigned to "Detached Services / FOP"
Residency , pensions. Force them both
two legit questions for Kevin Graham
1. Will you succumb to the pressure to save your own ass and pension (due to living in Lincolnshire) in exchange for selling out the rank and file?
2. What will be the influence that Mark Donahue and Bill Dougherty will have over you?
For all of you residency hacks, it is law that the union cannot negotiate our residency. look it up!!!! Find a new topic to bitch about.
Angelo's legacy- winning tattoo grievance😂
Congratulations are in order. President Graham will turn this union around and will do so quickly.
It's time to stop with the Donahue is running the union again mantra. Would anyone want a president who wouldn't seek out the advice of an experienced leader? That is exactly what Angelo and his guys didn't do. They were so full of themselves that they thought they could run the largest lodge in the nation without anyone's help.
Shame on National President Chuck Canterbury and State President Chris Southwood for trying every trick in the book to influence our election. I can only hope you get squashed like the roaches you are come election time.
Anonymous said...
I guess Dean retires as of his birthday?
Or, will he get the customary Springfield job?
Donahue is back in the driver's seat!
4/12/2017 07:05:00 PM
What? Dean's birthday is during the Summer. That would mean that he has to go back to WORK now until he turns 63. Dean hasn't worked in well over a decade, though he did heal miraculously to get off disability.
Get rid of this b.s residency rule. Start the fight on day 1. Our health care was already sold off and never coming back so at least let us move.
Betting odds DEAN has erased the computers at the lodge already!
If you have a grievance in the pipe line a strongly recommend you make an appointment to go to the lodge and make sure the paperwork is still there.
Graham has a big problem who to put in the office spots?
Do you put people who lost their elections but paid into the campaign fund?
Or do you put people who have no loyalty to you but have won there office spots?
is Donahue going to be pushing for laws part time still?
IS Doughtery leaving pushing a beat car to handling grievances at the FOP hall for that 6 figure salary?
And what the hell are we asking for in the next contract? Grahams campaign literature was extremely light in specifics.
And DEAN is the past president is he going to show up with his lift shoes and stir the pot?
And Finally what becomes of junior who was a merit pick and RAHM was keeping it secret till after the election. Will DEANO jr become of full time processor of juvenile at area central? (kid still has not processed a felony case yet!)
We're doomed the blind leading the blind!
Awww mannn does this mean that I have to stop bribing Dean Jr. into buying my lunch for my vote?
Will Dean come off of leave? He's been doing a lot of traveling lately.
I hope deano Jr.'s merit bump was worth it that along with his utter silence up until election time sealed my vote.Baya con dios d-nasty
How come nobody is brining up our healthcare? That's what's we need to fight for..
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Hope he remembers some day everyone retires. Don't forget those who served before you.
He should remember them, about as much as retirees remember the guys and gals paying their pension.
at least the dog got paid
Anonymous said...
For all of you residency hacks, it is law that the union cannot negotiate our residency. look it up!!!! Find a new topic to bitch about.
4/12/2017 11:37:00 PM
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I did smart guy and guess what? We can NEGOTIATE residency, we cannot ARBITRATE residency. The interesting thing about that law is that the law is based upon population, i.e. cities over one million residents. We should attack that law. The law you speak of essentially states that we cannot bring the residency issue to an arbitrator to have residency awarded in arbitration. The interesting part is that every other city in the state can. Seems a little unfair doesn't it perhaps even Unconstitutional. Don't know. I can say that that law can be challenged. Then the residency can be brought to arbitration and perhaps overturned. Nothing stops parties from negotiation like you allege. Did you actually look it up or did you post based upon urban legend?
For all of you residency hacks, it is law that the union cannot negotiate our residency. look it up!!!! Find a new topic to bitch about.
4/12/2017 11:37:00 PM
You're correct, the people clamoring for residency negotiations don't know what they're talking about. You're also correct that it's a law, but there have been plenty of laws that have been changed through legal challenges, such as secretly recording the police ruling a few years ago. Take it to court, not to the negotiating table.
Hope he remembers some day everyone retires. Don't forget those who served before you.
He should remember them, about as much as retirees remember the guys and gals paying their pension.
Somewhat old retiree here, I remember (and pray for) you guys and gals every day. Thank you. NO sarcasm here, I'm not the only one.
The facts are simple, with out a STRIKE clause , like the TEACHERS have you have nothing,and have no power over the city. Why does the little jag off always settle with the teachers ? Because if they strike he's fucked for not being able to run the CITY.... But we have a ace in the hole. The BLUE FLU boys and girls and until you realize the power you have in this FLU epidemic you will always be at the Mercy of Emanual's arbitrators !!!! Get organized with the new union president or reap the crumbs from Racoon Eyes and the 50 alder thieves !
File a lawsuit to remove residency and every time the city wants to take away something bring up residency.
To all you centurions beefin about retirees voting in the FOP elections. Us old guys got this union started and a lot of us have kids, grandkids and friends still on the job, so we still have a dog in the fight. So quit beefin about the retirees voting and get your lazy ass to an FOP meeting and get involved. ♠
Maybe Mr. 1295/month will someday realize that he simply retired too early.
FREE INSURANCE when you get to 50 with 25 years on !
Residency on the table now?
4/12/2017 05:55:00 PM
Who gives a fuck I can't sell my house !!!!!!!
@5:50...I've been retired now for 6yrs...I DIDN'T vote for Ole Dean and DIDN'T vote for him the last time either....
Air King 350i: comparison is made on basis
of cost and cabin size. The King is rather cramped
compared to the Gulfstream. Headroom usually not
a problem for Dean anyway.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
DO NOT NEGOTIATE RESIDENCY!!!!!!
Negotiations would mean we have to give something up for it. Fucking file a suit like all the other major departments.
4/12/2017 09:33:00 PM
You know that you can't change a state statute in a union contract. Right?
What are they going to do about all those new vehicles from the current contract?;)
Love how people are saying fight for more $, better health care, earlier retirement, etc...
You know what rahms response will be, stay fetal my friends.
Coppers have always been their own worse enemy.
Yes the city, media, government has basically blamed all the woes of Chicago on the cpd, but guess what you're still getting paid and paid well.
If we're going to focus on one thing it should be discipline and how the city can strip, fire and separate officers just about anytime they like. This rule 14 has to go or at least be amended, it is too broad and easily used against us. They want to create copa/ipra, police boards, blah blah blah, how about regular policeman in these groups to fight for our members?
They used to have a panel made if of po, Lt/capt, and exempt to go over bigger suspensions. Not sure if this is still around but it seems officers are guilty until proven innocent just so the powers that be can save face. Funny how rule 14 applied to the officers from 8 but not the cheaters. Both are allegations that are still being fought, but one group is struggling to pay their bills and the other is living large and fat.
As a group we are terrible at standing together, and that's why the other side always has the advantage they know we are easy to divide and conquer.
I don't know graham, Angelo, shield, etc. but graham needs to focus on us becoming a team again, because it seems to many people are just out for themselves and not the overall membership.
Graham was asked about residency at a roll call. He gave a weak nervous answer about it being too difficult to get springfield on board, and said it's not on the table. Our union is in disarray. Our union head can live outside the city on the sneak, but not you.
Hey stupid healthcare isn't sold off - even at 2% it's a great deal!!!!!!
The only thing that should matter to each and every one of you is our fuckin pensions period!! Come the next mayor and I'll bet there will be no pensions!
Take residency rule to court don't bargain for it
Anonymous said...
Angelo's legacy- winning tattoo grievance😂
4/12/2017 11:39:00 PM
So now maybe Graham FOP legacy can be facial hair. We must fight for whats important!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For all of you residency hacks, it is law that the union cannot negotiate our residency. look it up!!!! Find a new topic to bitch about.
4/12/2017 11:37:00 PM
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right, it's a state law, but the FOP could push it w/ the mayor
Congrats but now is the time for the fight. Above residency and all that other shit #1 thing active members need to make sure we don't lose is any of our protections. Any loss in that department is unacceptable and should be fought against tooth and nail.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
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Hope he remembers some day everyone retires. Don't forget those who served before you.
He should remember them, about as much as retirees remember the guys and gals paying their pension.
Don't generalize about the retirees. Many of us are still active FOP members. Many and I mean many of us have sons and daughters on the job, not to mention brothers and sisters along with other family members. We had our day, but that doesn't mean we're are not concerned about the active CPD members
I personally would rather see my son reap the benefits of a new contract than me getting them
As my great grandfather would say. Smell ya later...
As long as it is state law, don't think residency can be arbitrated or asked for......
And am pretty sure it was the state that also allowed 9 1/2 to slow down his pension payments.....
Negotiate for what is realistic in this climate:
Raises, to meet the daily needs of the accelerated cost of living in the city
Health care for current and retired personnel (cuz at $2600 a month for married couple of 2) is a HUGE drain
Same rights as FEDS re: traumatic incidents
Seniority rights to remain re: watch, district, etc etc
Under-oath complaints vs. police to remain
You get the picture, Kevin et al? DONT GIVE UP ANYTHING........
Unions are dead. Especially this one.
Congratulations Kevin, fight for all of us and especially the beat coppers who have been constantly shit on for too long while Dean had his thumb in his ass.
Good Luck Graham, you will need it.
We will be able to tell if Graham is bought off by Rahm.
Just see if becomes lodge policy to publicly encourage every cop, every cop's family member, every cop's friend and neighbor to vote in every general election.
We need to make the politicians FEAR US.
Then we will get what we want.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
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Hope he remembers some day everyone retires. Don't forget those who served before you.
He should remember them, about as much as retirees remember the guys and gals paying their pension.
4/13/2017 03:23:00 AM
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Apparently, you don't plan on retiring someday. I'm retired. What would you like me to do in my remembrance of you, which I assure you, will come as soon as I press enter? Vote in the FOP election, the odds of which are high, that you did not? Oh, I already did that. Enjoy my healthcare that I receive from the city? Oh, wait, I don't have any. Hold your hand on your next job assignment?. Sorry, I did plenty on my own already. I'll do the one thing for you that I'm able to do, wish you luck and tell you to stay safe. Oh, and remind you that unless you quit, are killed, die of natural causes, or wait until you turn the age where you are forced off the job, you too WILL retire someday too.
raise mandatory retirement age to 66
many will stay for that vri
lobby to end gold braid pension and pension for merit political promotions
It's the Russians I tell ya..
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What about all the new police cruisers that we were promised?
4/12/2017 06:58:00 PM
Deano has them in a lot somewhere.
Gonna turn them into a fleet of Uber vehicles to supplement his retirement.
Forget residency. How about 25 years to max out instead of 29 and 1 day???
Hope he remembers some day everyone retires. Don't forget those who served before you.
4/12/2017 05:04:00 PM
He should remember them, about as much as retirees remember the guys and gals paying their pension.
4/13/2017 03:23:00 AM
You omitted the date and time (4/12/2017 05:04:00 PM) of the original post, which shows you are an idiot and made for your post to have little sense.
Regardless, your single-sentence comment of 4/13/2017 03:23:00 shows you are also an asshole.
The facts are simple, with out a STRIKE clause , like the TEACHERS have you have nothing,and have no power
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Wrong and a defeatist attitude. We can go to arbitration as we have in the past and win some lose some. Our power comes from our contract and past practices. As far as the teachers we have a much better deal and don't have to have the same level of education and they don't get a gun and radio when dealing with the same fine citizens we are.
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raise mandatory retirement age to 66
many will stay for that vri
lobby to end gold braid pension and pension for merit political promotions
4/13/2017 12:27:00 PM
Fire ended gold braided pension years ago highest rank is civil service which is lieutenant also that would mean rahms detail guys would not get sergeants and commanders pensions since they are all 9161 patrolmen! Stop the pension raiding!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Congrats but now is the time for the fight. Above residency and all that other shit #1 thing active members need to make sure we don't lose is any of our protections. Any loss in that department is unacceptable and should be fought against tooth and nail.
Attorney general Sessions helped us plenty today. As long as Rahm doesn't continue to implement that bullshit DOJ repor
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
DO NOT NEGOTIATE RESIDENCY!!!!!!
Negotiations would mean we have to give something up for it. Fucking file a suit like all the other major departments.
4/12/2017 09:33:00 PM
You know that you can't change a state statute in a union contract. Right?
4/13/2017 07:53:00 AM
Actually....since Chicago is a Home Rule city in the state of Illinois....
The City could legally choose to ignore the state law by refusing to enforce it. Like how some suburbs don't enforce the Rear/Front Plate required State Vehicle Code. Or how Chicago, for years, enforced a Zero % Window Tint on vehicles despite the State having (IIRC) a 35% max allowance.
But here is the thing...
To get the City to bargain away residency in a new contract, what would you expect they would want YOU, the Police, to give up?
Find a Lawyer to challenge the State law in court.
4/13/2017 02:00:00 PM
To all of you in the above thread:Respectfully, once you retire, no matter who you were, what unit you were in, white shirt, blue shirt, good guy or asshole you mean absolutely nothing to a majority of those OTJ now. You are of no use to them now, present day. Yeah you could probably still make a call, but it will be handled with the same indifference.
You are gone like a disposable Bic lighter, and we all made that choice for a reason.
It's hard to give up something that you have done for the majority of your life, but you gave it up. For a Reason. Enjoy the rest of your life, and keep the Police in your thoughts and prayers.
Who is new? Graham? Dougherty? Donahue? hahahahaahah, in with the new, that's a funny one. Guess you never heard of the citywide ticket from the early 2000s and mid 2000s. same crew, all of them.
4/12/2017 10:43:00 PM
Very familiar with the citywide ticket. I had 20 years on then. Just trying to say that the current crew pissed off enough people, and they got voted out. That's all.
"Apparently, you don't plan on retiring someday. I'm retired. What would you like me to do in my remembrance of you, which I assure you, will come as soon as I press enter? Vote in the FOP election, the odds of which are high, that you did not? Oh, I already did that. Enjoy my healthcare that I receive from the city? Oh, wait, I don't have any. Hold your hand on your next job assignment?. Sorry, I did plenty on my own already. I'll do the one thing for you that I'm able to do, wish you luck and tell you to stay safe. Oh, and remind you that unless you quit, are killed, die of natural causes, or wait until you turn the age where you are forced off the job, you too WILL retire someday too."
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Dear Mr. High and Mighty,
It's funny to hear you say all of this, when it was YOUR generation that negotiated for pay raises and everything else INSTEAD of protecting your pensions. YOU are responsible for exactly where you are now. So stop slamming everyone working now like they're the assholes. Also, you can come off of your bullshit about how you are the only ones who vote. The free lunch and wheelgun days of violating everyone's rights as you see fit and as it suits your mood that particular day are also gone, in case you haven't heard Mr. Badass. I don't know if you've also heard, but they even hire us black folk these days. So vote however you want, but don't make it sound like you did everything to make sure my generation had it better. I'm on 13 years and I can tell you my father was never let on the job by your generation because his name didn't start with "Mc". So speak up at meetings just like everyone is entitled to, but come off your attitude that you are owed anything. You got exactly what you asked for.
Don't worry about residency. Worry about keeping your job so you have a residence to go to. Fight for the what we have on board now and not loose anything like Deano gave away. Were not to be giving away anything but maybe attaining something more.
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