Hiring Lull
There's almost no chance Rahm is going to hit his "100 a month" goal.
There's even less of a chance that the media will call him out on it.
The Academy is almost vacant due to the run-up to training the entire Department in a three-month span on the new Non-Use of Force. And prospects for hiring aren't looking good once the training is over:
There's even less of a chance that the media will call him out on it.
The Academy is almost vacant due to the run-up to training the entire Department in a three-month span on the new Non-Use of Force. And prospects for hiring aren't looking good once the training is over:
- Rahm claimed that 15,000 people signed up for the latest police test, touting minority outreach and recruitment;
- Final tally? Only 7,437 tests were graded.
That's under 50% participation, even with the City waiving the fee in many cases. From past experience,
- around 60% pass (down to 4462)
- half of that total don't bother with any further testing (2231)
- 25% fail background and drug testing (1673)
Unless Rahm is lowering the bar completely, this list is done by winter.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
83 Comments:
The academy is pretty filled with recruits right now actually...
- a guy who works at the academy
I have been told that there are 500 recruits in the academy at the moment...
power test? -25%
Lift residency requirement for better application pool
Do you really think that 60% will pass. With today's CPS graduates?
7437 passed the test.
I have spoken to and know of many that would like to be a Chicago Police officer but the residency requirement is a deal breaker. Educated and qualified people that live outside Chicago DO NOT WANT TO LIVE HERE! Chicago is losing great applicants due to the antiquated residency requirement. It's the year 2017. We need to get with the times and attract better and more applicants. Especially since law enforcement has become a less desirable career.
My good friend took the test... waiting awhile to hear back from CPD, in his wait he was hired by another police department and moved out to the boonies to get away from double sirens on ambulances making noise by his apartment.... so too late To trap another one there Rahm
Don't forget many of those applicants don't have 60 credit hours yet or are not 21.
Get rid of the college requirement like Louisville did recently you learn everything in the academy!
I bet their going to lower the POWER test requirement like Cook County Sheriff did it's like 30-39yr old woman category bench half your bodyweight? IDOC is so desperate they don't even do a physical test anymore.
How can you tell when Rahm lies? His lips move.
Rahm is a lying sack of shit.
Are these numbers and percentages factual or estimates?
Academy is very full. Every classroom in the building is filled. Do not know where you got your information.
I just want to put it out there that I'm in the hiring process, starting academy this summer pending the outcome of the final hirin steps. I have a lot of respect for you guys for sharing your opinions and being honest about the situation. I know it will be tough, but I also know it will be worth it. Despite all the negativity, I know a lot of good people, friends & coworkers that still want to be the police. Thanks & stay safe.
-Soon to be CPD (hopefully)
Make way for
Coming soon to Chicago??
http://sorendreier.com/last-police-station-in-no-go-swedish-suburbs-forced-to-close/
Anonymous said...
7437 passed the test.
6/30/2017 01:36:00 AM
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So, according to Rahm and SpecialEd, 15,000 took the test.
But only 7437 passed it?
That makes sense.
Given the pool of applicants that they had.
" Anonymous said...
I have been told that there are 500 recruits in the academy at the moment..."
6/30/2017 12:19:00 AM
Do you still believe in unicorns, and everything Rahm says?
25% fail background and drug testing (1673)
I'm not sure the "new" CPD will be doing background and drug tests anymore
Agreed get rid of college requirement. Get some bodies on this job. If the military can accept people with no college so should the police. These kids are trained to use multi million dollar equiptment. This is a blue collar job. You don't need college to be the police.
About 15,000 took the test, 7400 passed. If past performance is any indication, we'll hire about 1500 from this test. Another test is planned for the end of the year.
And there's several hundred recruits in the academy now. BTW, the academy will not be the facility used to train the use of force policy.
I tell potential applicants all the time.
Better to leave Chicago and Illinois then to be stuck here for 30 years, for a dept. and city that basically fucks over their police officers, out of benefits and pension!
Chicago Police really sucks as a dept. to work for!
KMA
The academy is full, teaching non-use of force tactics? Is this the Marilyn Mosby class called "Give'em room to destroy"? Or Kimmie Fox's "Let them kill"?
It's all bullshit. A Police Officers very presence should be enough to calm an unstable situation, and he's only effective when people believe he will take control of any situation, by force, if necessary.
People call the Police when the shit hits the fan. They don't call their local church and ask for choirboys. When assholes are being assholes, the "long arm of the law" should be a strong arm. (And maybe just a little bit unpredictable.)
J.J.
If they lower the physical requirements then those who failed because of that should be offered the job again, just like when Tracy Ladner was messing with coppers kids and said they failed the Psych test. Many good people were knocked out. Even now that they lowered standards some of these mutts still can't pass the background but private vendor KENTECH wants to pass them thru anyways, just ask guys that work there, right Max?
No one wants the job Detroit is just around the corner
Washington DC lowered their hiring standards in the 80's and had a disaster. I would not bet against the mayor and the black alderman doing the same in Chicago. It seems they are on a hard road to believing that the answer to their problems is more and more minorities on the police force as only minority cops can relate to the minority community. Besides being a racist theory with no proof or validity at all, this end result will give them power and control which is what the political class currently in power in Cook County really want.
It's your own fault: the City is not
being proactive.
- no friendly cop visits to grade schools
- no "meet the drug dog" events
- no summer films in the park showing
classic cop flicks
- no sidecar rides at grade schools
- no visits by under-cover cops with tats
demonstrating that you too can be a cop
He could just put their names on cards and try to toss them in a hat. It might be just as effective.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
First, residency is not going anywhere, so enough crying about it already
Second, the power test is a state requirement, departments can't just change the requirement
Lift residency and people will take the job
CPD just graduated a class Only stat I don't believe is that only 60% pass the test. You can't develop an easier test
Took the test in 2016, passed power and poly with nothing in my background for a dq. My app has been sitting in city review for months already. Guessing they can just sit on mine and not make a decision.
I have spoken to and know of many that would like to be a Chicago Police officer but the residency requirement is a deal breaker. Educated and qualified people that live outside Chicago DO NOT WANT TO LIVE HERE! Chicago is losing great applicants due to the antiquated residency requirement. It's the year 2017. We need to get with the times and attract better and more applicants. Especially since law enforcement has become a less desirable career.
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Well said. This outdated residency rule needs to go! The union needs to address it...maybe first by taking a poll from it's members. I guarantee most in the FOP want residency lifted.
The Reason Residency was put in was because City jobs were Patronage jobs,Remember the term Patronage Army, You called your Alderman for a job then your family Voted for him for Life.Its not about taxes.
Who want to be a cop nowdays??? Unless you are really juiced up this job blows.....
The reason I never tested with the city was residency and my permanent address at the time was in 022. I graduated school but never moved back and feared I would get a last minute call telling me to start the academy and force me to move back in my mom's house for immediate residency. Said screw it and just went with the burbs. Worked in a town with a graduated residency and told them hasta la vista also.
My nieghbor took the test and scored really well. With all the stuff going on and the hatred towards the Police, they decided to take a pass. Shocker. I am sure more people might rethink taking this job.
IG Joe , rumor has it a few in academy without the military , 60 college credits , just CPS graduates ??
Who did the background investigations ?
Hello fed investigation required ?
You forgot to add that 55% of those who pass the written test,fail the power test. Your final # is even lower.
I'm sure plenty of beyond low standards filtered through the inept HR, they hire by social merit now.
Rahm is Phony as the proverbial $3 bill.
Before every election, Democrats like Rahm lie and everybody forgets what was promised.
Nobody challenges his broken promises. Unlike obstructing the Governor, 48 Alderthieves give him a free ride when he panders to their constituants. He's holding his re-election trick cards for the end of 2017 and into mid 2018.
The next Democrat for mayor will be even worse.
And all candidates will be using crime, racist whites polices and finances as the talking points.
The only thing we can do is vote to get a run-off and make them drain their war chests.
Rahm has nowhere to turn to but sell or giveaway whatever's left of the City.
He's only in it to now destroy the city for the next thief - no honor.
Carpetbagging thief only came back to Chicago to save ShortShanks and wait for Hillary.
He's as done as Dart.
Washington has been at war for 16 years. Why?
Fighting in the Middle East & North Africa.
You would think there would be plenty of potential
recruits coming back home.
Wait. You don't want guys with prosthetic legs, arms,
eyes? Guys with PTSD and addiction problems?
Guys who can shoot straight, but don't exactly appreciate
being turned into a grilled cheese sandwich after they do
their job and hit the target. Guys reading about litigation
after they do the job. Political hacks at the helm at the
whim and hest of a puppet master mayor.
The requirement these days: just show up and breathing. These recruits don't even run anymore.
(OT) looks like cheating democrats will not cooperate in voter fraud investigation guessing rahm here is breaking federal laws to keep illegals voting as we lose billions in federal dollars:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/30/dem-state-officials-refusing-to-cooperate-with-trump-voter-fraud-probe.html
Who cares !!!!! I want my pension!!!! Are these new hires paying into the
Pension ? If they are then hire as many as they can !! If not then who cares
If they hire one more , I need my pension!!!!!!!
Don't forget many of those applicants don't have 60 credit hours yet or are not 21.
Get rid of the college requirement like Louisville did recently you learn everything in the academy!
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I couldn't imagine a 21 year old with no college and no real life experience doing this job. Maybe in the 70's/80's when men were built differently. This generation though-yikes!
I think you're low on the number who cant pass a drug test....
The residency requirement kills the applicant pool. Why would someone that lives in the suburbs or another state want to be forced to live in Chicago? No other department in America has forced residency. With all the crap going on with the Chicago police department and then the pension mess, only a fool would move here to take the job.
A friend of mine who happens to be a male AA turned down CPD twice. He's a college grad and former Marine who's married with two small daughters. He didn't want to raise his kids in the city so he declined the job.
Who would want this job
Keep the residency. You need a take in it. The grass is not greener and so many cant get to work on time now. Get rid of the college. I got a degree but can tell you from my decades in the Department, it didn't make it better. Fire more numb nuts. They made it harder for the rest of us. My two cents.
Hey 2016 tester:
Maybe you ain't the right color or sex.
Just maybe Foxy Gabrini has some kind of influence.
It would not surprise me if they looked at voting records.
That's why SCC is on the air, to combat the Toxic Triad:
R-E-T (Rahm, Ed, Tom)
Anonymous said...
First, residency is not going anywhere, so enough crying about it already
Second, the power test is a state requirement, departments can't just change the requirement
6/30/2017 09:30:00 AM
You might want to take a closer look at
"departments can't just change the requirement"
part of your statement.
A whole shit-ton of stuff is being changed
in order to cause Policemen harm.
Just a thought.
6/30/2017 03:06:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Who would want this job
My guess would be the 7700 that took and passed the last test
We don't need to hire any more coppers. We're getting "about" 20 federal agents! That will solve all of Chicago's problems. Even though there will be an extra 1000 coppers on the streets this holiday weekend, there will still be 50-60 shot. Too bad all those won't be homicides.
slow down the hiring: Chicago police officers are now working as private security officers in uniform of the day at CHA PUBLIC HOUSING SITES!
LODGE # 7 what's up with that!
Michael Shields, once said at union meeting we're looking into that!
Any reason why Academy personnel was not RDO cancelled for the holiday weekend but all of Patrol was?!? Could this be true for 35th street personnel too?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We don't need to hire any more coppers. We're getting "about" 20 federal agents! That will solve all of Chicago's problems. Even though there will be an extra 1000 coppers on the streets this holiday weekend, there will still be 50-60 shot. Too bad all those won't be homicides.
An extra 1000 po's on the street this weekend won't change anything. You haven't learned that yet. It hasn't slowed down the murder rate. Last year we had an extra in quite a few weekends and the murder rate went up. What almost 800
Who is taking the test to begin with? Apparently people with no ability to watch the news.
If they lower the physical requirements then those who failed because of that should be offered the job again, just like when Tracy Ladner was messing with coppers kids and said they failed the Psych test. Many good people were knocked out. Even now that they lowered standards some of these mutts still can't pass the background but private vendor KENTECH wants to pass them thru anyways, just ask guys that work there, right Max?
6/30/2017 07:31:00 AM
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To the poster, you are so full of shit thinking that the private vendor mentioned has ANY say who CPD hires. In the process, They just check history of traffic issues, credit issues and situations when, "the the want to be police used narcotics and what kind."
Believe me, I know tenured retired dicks that are on contract to do the home interviews. All the questions are what the "want to be the police", entered on the form they filled out and sent to H.R at CPD. Want to find out who makes the decision to hire or not, look no further then the powers to be at headquarters.
Just as simple when the CPD used to do it in house. So get your facts straight buddy ! Did your kid get rejected because he is on an anti psychotic drug from his shrink. Ever hear of HEPA law, all medical issues are not covered by background people. The M.D who does the physical exam and the shrink ask those questions.
You wants people with a star and gun on street that are unstable ? All coppers !
Anonymous Anonymous said...
First, residency is not going anywhere, so enough crying about it already
Second, the power test is a state requirement, departments can't just change the requirement
6/30/2017 09:30:00 AM
Cook County Sheriff did
Anonymous Just Say'n... said...
I think you're low on the number who cant pass a drug test....
6/30/2017 02:46:00 PM
Hair test can go back a long time
Quite a bit about this job sucks, but hey, go find another job with the benefits and pay we get. You have to really fuck up to get fired. I worked in the private sector, after 1 year, you get 1 week vacation. After 2 years, you get 2 weeks vacation. After 5 years, you get 3 weeks vacation. How many paid holidays, BFD and Pdays do we get? But I have to work on holidays! The grill man at McDonalds does also.
These jagoffs that say residency will never get lifted are dogs. Don't wanna work for anything and better the contract. Have fun with ur 500,000 dollar 900 sq ft house
Then there's this.... I'll just take it as a blessing, I'll continue with my 90k per year job😘
Re: Minimum Qualifications – Maximum Age/Disqualified
Pursuant to the Municipal Code of Chicago, no person may be appointed as a probationary Police Officer after the person's 40th birthday.
Based on your current age, the Chicago Police Department will recommend that your name be removed from the City of Chicago, Department of Human Resources eligibility list for the position of Police Officer.
Sincerely,
Chicago Police Department
People still want to be cops? After reading this blog for a month you couldn't give me your job at twice the money. Put up with the shit you do then be shit on by the city No Way!
Does anyone knnow what the current numbers are? How many members are we down?
You could always recruit from the Department of
Streets and Sanitation, but then you would have to
replace and retrain the gap.
Applicants are being eliminated on psych test. Applicants that have met all requirements and done everything correct, no background issues, educated, however are not a minority. Why do they ask race of applicant on psych test. Funny isn't it??? So if you don't get totally disgruntled with having to take days off with current employer missing days of work and lying and making excuses, for psych test and psych interviews and polygraph and in the end being eliminated to have to do all over again with no guarantees...cod investigator tells applicant will probably be in upcoming class, to be eliminated on b.s. psych. Heard of others take pass psych test get hired by another dept. Go back take psych test within months with same vendor for Cpd and now do not pass.
Agreed get rid of college requirement. Get some bodies on this job. If the military can accept people with no college so should the police. These kids are trained to use multi million dollar equiptment. This is a blue collar job. You don't need college to be the police.
6/30/2017 06:32:00 AM
Can you image in the reports their gonna be righting they all reade luke like crap...
You need the college requirement.
Anonymous said...
Agreed get rid of college requirement. Get some bodies on this job. If the military can accept people with no college so should the police. These kids are trained to use multi million dollar equiptment. This is a blue collar job. You don't need college to be the police.
6/30/2017 06:32:00 AM
Um no. There is much more direct supervision in the military, more mentoring and you are not sending 24 yr old kids into private homes trying to break up fights between couples and resolve disputes with children 3 years younger than them. There is no comparison. You don't need college to be the police but you need it to be a competitive candidate, same as the military. Get in without it easy. Stay around and get promoted without it? Good luck.
recruits in police academy now without the 60 college credits or military background
needed to hire minority applicants from cps pool of applicants
someone look into this , something stinks
Is it "Hiring Lull"
or "Hiring Lol," SCC?
7/01/2017 03:25:00 AM
TO: Mr. 40YOA making $90K too old for CPD
From: Questioning
Question: Why the he!! did you even apply for and test for this job? Take a 50% pay cut to put up with this?
They used the age to turn you down. In reality, you are just too soft.
recruits in police academy now without the 60 college credits or military background
needed to hire minority applicants from cps pool of applicants
someone look into this , something stinks
That would be interesting if true. Would open door for all that didn't take the test because they didn't have the requirements. Tough to uncover
Um no. There is much more direct supervision in the military, more mentoring and you are not sending 24 yr old kids into private homes trying to break up fights between couples and resolve disputes with children 3 years younger than them. There is no comparison. You don't need college to be the police but you need it to be a competitive candidate, same as the military. Get in without it easy. Stay around and get promoted without it? Good luck.
Difference in the military is qualified get promoted, not clouted. They compete for promotions on a level playing field, not with special classes hosted by test makers
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anyone knnow what the current numbers are? How many members are we down?
Depends on who you ask and really doesn't matter. They will who they want when they want and the number they want. Just because we are down doesn't mean they will be replaced
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Quite a bit about this job sucks, but hey, go find another job with the benefits and pay we get. You have to really fuck up to get fired. I worked in the private sector, after 1 year, you get 1 week vacation. After 2 years, you get 2 weeks vacation. After 5 years, you get 3 weeks vacation. How many paid holidays, BFD and Pdays do we get? But I have to work on holidays! The grill man at McDonalds does also.
So do drs, nurses,cab drivers, grocery store clerks people in the restaurant business and bars. The list goes on and on. We are not the only ones working holidays
Washington has been at war for 16 years. Why?
Fighting in the Middle East & North Africa.
You would think there would be plenty of potential
recruits coming back home.
Wait. You don't want guys with prosthetic legs, arms,
eyes? Guys with PTSD and addiction problems?
Guys who can shoot straight, but don't exactly appreciate
being turned into a grilled cheese sandwich after they do
their job and hit the target. Guys reading about litigation
after they do the job. Political hacks at the helm at the
whim and hest of a puppet master mayor.
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Fuck you, snowflake. So all or the vast majority of vets are physically, mentally and emotionally damaged and don't think critically with foresight for the actions they take?! I'm a cop and a combat veteran that is proud of my service, despite disparaging remarks by weak keyboard warriors like yourself. Also, it's not "Washington" that has been at war for 16 years; the U.S. has been at war with global terrorist networks. Let me gues "bu bu bu buuuuuut Iraq...". Yeah, dickhead, other enemies existed aside from Iraq. I just don't see how you managed to work a whole post about horribly disabled veterans and a monolithic assertion that most of all vets are unstable and make bad decisions when there was no mention by SCC pleading for or mentioning vets coming to take this job. I do know you're a moron. Don't worry, those terrible veterans aren't the ones that you should be losing sleep over.
Recruits in academy now... without the 60 college credits... Yes this is true.
Anonymous said...
Took the test in 2016, passed power and poly with nothing in my background for a dq. My app has been sitting in city review for months already. Guessing they can just sit on mine and not make a decision.
6/30/2017 10:38:00 AM
Try this....took test in 2013, passed everything including background through kentech and poly, not dq'd. My app has been sitting in city review for a year. Already hired elsewhere and couldn't be happier! They don't respect who you are as an applicant now..what makes you think they will respect you as an employee? CPD is not worth waiting around. ever. Apply, apply, apply. (elsewhere)
Anonymous said...
The academy is pretty filled with recruits right now actually...
- a guy who works at the academy
6/30/2017 12:08:00 AM
He' right. It's also looking like more applicants are getting polys lately. Also, a class of anywhere from 80 to 100 new recruits comes in every month.
Anonymous said...
Any reason why Academy personnel was not RDO cancelled for the holiday weekend but all of Patrol was?!? Could this be true for 35th street personnel too?
6/30/2017 10:19:00 PM
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Different bureaus, different responsibilities, different rules. You asked. It's kind of the same reason, I can be told tomorrow that my start time is 2200 hours then the next day 0900. It's happened to me before. I can also be sent on out of unit details with over 25 years on the job when there are people in the building who aren't required to go. I am not crying a river. You asked.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Agreed get rid of college requirement. Get some bodies on this job. If the military can accept people with no college so should the police. These kids are trained to use multi million dollar equiptment. This is a blue collar job. You don't need college to be the police.
6/30/2017 06:32:00 AM
Can you image in the reports their gonna be righting they all reade luke like crap...
You need the college requirement.
7/01/2017 08:45:00 AM
You need more street smart Officers who have been on the edge of the law.
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