Great Training
Remember, these COPA Cabana Boys (and Girls) are getting the FINEST training:
- They had COPA investigators in the exempt Use of Force 5 hr training. One guy was knocked out asleep a female was checking her Facebook. When the scenario was done someone posed a question to them as to if they believed the shooting in the scenario was justified. They refused to answer the question only saying, "there's much more investigation that needs to be done before that can be determined". The whole room wanted to choke them. They were told the officer has a split second to make the determination but they are going to sit there and tell us it might take weeks for THEM to make that same determination?
Hopefully, one of the Exempts at class took notes on which Investigators were preoccupied present in case there's ever a question about the quality of the training taking place for the railroading investigating of police actions.
Fetal.
Fetal.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
43 Comments:
I always said this--- "know who you work for"--- in order to dodge run away buses and meat grinders... now it basically "every man for himself" --- referring to protect your OWN ass--- cause from the JVD deal... it's apparent
POLICEMEN!
Protect yourselves from THESE people.
Stay the fuck out of "da communerty's" business.
Obey all traffic laws responding to their bullshit.
Drop a report.
Notify the dicks.
Whistle for the body snatchers.
Oversee CFD hosing the blood, brains,
skull fragments, teeth and shit off
the sidewalk.
Roll to the next one and repeat.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Give them the arms-length/detached
Police service they've been demanding.
Watch them chase their own tails in an ever tightening
illogic loop until they disappear into their own asses.
Take your own notes. A little surreptitious video may be helpful. "I was recording the class for future reference."
Despite everything said, COPA will turn out to be a boon to the CPD.
Can't even shoot to save your own life without getting fucked over.
Can only hope these COPA investigators experience the effects of the ghetto rats criminal intent. When they call the police, will the COPA jagoffs tell the cops what they do for a living? Take the report, give them their copy and wish them a nice day. Oh yeah, tour the area for offender(s), yeah right.
Wake me when its over.
Boys and girls: COPA’s investigations are not going be about IF the shooting is justified; it will be IF the politically motivated persecution of the officers to satisfy the mob is justified.
Stay fetal!
Nothing is too good for them
including Dart in a lime green jump suit
and Rahm in a James Brown cape
(You know something? This society is going
to hell, because when I typed in "cape",
"Vape" came up in the spell check)
Can a supervisor order you to answer COPA's questions? Is there a lawyer in the house?
Well of course it may take weeks to make a determination.
Each shooting first must go through the Mayor, then city council, store front revruns and finally 'ol Kimmy herself.
She wasn't hired to enforce the law, just the policies of 9.5.
No different than what IPRA has been doing. Taking years to complete an investigation even with video evidence.
Idiots
6 dead yesterday, let's go Chicago.
Just follow UN directives, you'll be fine. Shoot only when fired upon.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can a supervisor order you to answer COPA's questions? Is there a lawyer in the house?
7/14/2017 06:39:00 AM
Yes, and those statements are Garrity protected. At least for now, until some Judge rules otherwise!
Can a supervisor order you to answer COPA's questions? Is there a lawyer in the house?
Yes.
I recently attended the supervisor training portion. Ifficers, I do not care how good you think your incident is... Go to the hospital immediately after. Say your chest hurts, tell doctor the stress from talking hurts. The Dr. Can order evrryone out and have them leave you alone, long enough to have your lawyer come and talk to you. Save your family and yourself pitential issues. Do it.
Are you expecting us to be surprised? These Brass morons go to a 5 hr class and fall asleep? Facebook? I would have videotaped the class and send it off to the media and see what they do with it...this is how much the department cares...stay fetal everyone! Lets just sit back, collect a paycheck, watch the numbers go up and laugh.
Invite snakes in your house and hmm...you might get bit!
They're not there to learn anything, they're there just to get their participation award. They already know the Police are always wrong.
J.J.
So the individual conducting this training allows people to sleep and play with their cellphones in class? I spent most of my career teaching adults and that cell would have been confiscated and the guy who went to sleep would have been woken up immediately and invited to leave. Whoever is doing this training needs to get control of the classroom.
I would get fired for less in my job during any type of training if I am on my facebook or not paying attention. WTF
Nothing will happen. The exempts are afraid of these clout heavy copas.
Can we request to check their phone/email/Internet usage during said event as they do to all officers on scene of whatever event they investigate
Do not answer ANY questions asked of COPA without an attorney present...
Heard that the new Use of Force Policy will state Police Officers will only be allowed to use deadly force only if the Offender has already fired upon the Police Officer...If he is pointing the firearm and/or making threats,you can't use deadly force...If this is true,the Brain Trust at CPD Headquarters should commit suicide in the manner of the Samurai..Seppuku...🔪🔪
Well if this is true, and it was being taught at our academy, then the instructor
should of called them out for not paying attention.
And every & any exempt in there should of been doing the same thing.
Actually regardless of where it was & who was teaching it, they should of been called out
One worked a McDonalds she also went to school a Chicago State but her MAP grant ended so she needs a job
The goofs will be looking to make a name for themselves quickly, don't be the stepping stone stay fetal they increasing budget exponentially and upped personnel by over 45% more! You want to get involved in savage animal nonsense it's on you, watch and learn from coppers of the past now with this new bullshit the targets will be easier with all the manpower they are granted, be a "tough target" enjoy the ride, take breaks be reactive, and if you want to be proactive use that on your face fro acne nothing else!
This veteran officer says if you want to keep your job, keep your family,keep your freedom,keep your pension,keep your home stay fetal show the family how much you really love them, if you do stupid nonsense then have at it. Being the media sensation 24/7 as the dishonest media films your home, bothers your family,bothers your neighbors and destroys your health and career, as the old adage goes "use your head as more than a hat rack!"
If your insane enough to believe that exempt pension grabbing clout heavy clown wearing our uniform,and believe in the fallacy they tell you that is up to you,as your an "adult!"
60 Minutes Australia: Chicago without hope, part one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMJ1x4PuGeo
60 Minutes Australia: Chicago without hope, part two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N55EhtBARI
Our media is so enamored and in bed the elected who own them it takes Australia people coming halfway across the world to do this story! To think our media is more worried about protecting illegals and the thugs giving their handlers the elected a totally free pass as the bloodshed continues everywhere! The video shows an 80% drop in CPD stops,and the crime increasing.If this was any other place,any business the CEO in charge like rahm-toni-dart-the50-durbin-ducksworth etc would be thrown put quickly because the shareholders (taxpayers here) are losing money,and the company (city of Chicago) is painting everything in a terrible light due to extremely inept management!
Lastly as always God please bless the police and the hardworking citizens of Chicago that try everyday to be the change needed even though fighting a losing battle against the elected the powers of darkness!
They don't need much training to use Rahm's rubber stamp.
An LT who went to the training. If you work for me you will know who I am by the following: If you don't understand by now you never will and you deserve the hell you will pay. STAY FETAL! No arrests, no tickets. Don't get involved in vehicle pursuits, foot pursuits, only arrest on signed complaints, YES - even domestics. Unless violation of an OOP or bail bond remember the Dept policy is that the PREFERRED course of action is you arrest. It is NOT required. Just relocate the victim, advise a warrant and an OOP, write the report and move on. Be safe!
Nothing will change and no exempt cares! Get over it already, we are screwed.... and you can take that to the bank! Now go get me some activity kids!!!
Not Justified depends on the who (shotkilt that boy) and not the precipitating facts.
A one month investigation is going to become a six month cluster.
Tens of millions spent on biased, clueless political Hack appointees and then trying edgamacate community morons.
Another Rahm Emanuel Pandering Disaster.
Stay Fetal.
Don't do anything that creates work for them....let Rahm lay them off.
It's Them against Us.
Um... u have bad info. No copa in exempt training.
Every time I see "COPA" that song infiltrates my head and I can't stop it. I HATE That song. Is there no GOD??
Freedom of Information Act:
DEMAND a transcript, recordings, literature, ect.
that was instilled into this COPA board under the pretext
of guidelines for the judgement of police officers.
You have a right to know these standards, procedures,
and "trigger levels": just where does excessive force start,
at what point does the actor cross the line: verbally, physically.
The POLICE and COPA should be on the same page, otherwise
this is headed for a train wreck, more "misunderstandings", and
more street protests with lawless street violence.
In fact, an FOP member should be on the COPA board to serve as
an administrative monitor. Without this board membership, we are
headed for the same problems, only under a different name and COPA
label. Time to demand equal representation, equal rights. The POLICE do
not deserve to be judged and second-guessed by rank amateurs.
BLUE LINE FOREVER
10:44am
I have a bridge to sell you
It's in Brooklyn
There is a story about Portland, Oregon police in Multnomah County. Police involved in a shooting, cannot have statements that are compelled, used against them for criminal prosecution.
First of all, there were no COPA investigators in the exempt training. The two civilians in the class were the director of MLAS and Community Outreach (or whatever it's called).
Second, to the poster who wrote "Heard that the new Use of Force Policy will state Police Officers will only be allowed to use deadly force only if the Offender has already fired upon the Police Officer...If he is pointing the firearm and/or making threats,you can't use deadly force...If this is true,the Brain Trust at CPD Headquarters should commit suicide in the manner of the Samurai..Seppuku...🔪🔪" ---
You are completely wrong, and I would guess a troll. If, by some unbelievable chance, you actually are a member of the CPD, Dumbfuck, take the eLearning training on the new order!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I recently attended the supervisor training portion. Ifficers, I do not care how good you think your incident is... Go to the hospital immediately after. Say your chest hurts, tell doctor the stress from talking hurts. The Dr. Can order evrryone out and have them leave you alone, long enough to have your lawyer come and talk to you. Save your family and yourself pitential issues. Do it.
7/14/2017 07:38:00 AM
This needed to be repeated. This is great advice. Go to the hospital. Make a request to the doc that no one, not even the supt, bother or have contact with you because you're not feeling well. Wait for and follow instruction from counsil.
I'm calling bullshit on this one, I don't believe COPA has gone through this training yet, only command staff & now Supervisors. I was pleasantly surprised with the training. It seems like the new order is less restrictive in a lot of ways. Under the right circumstances we can shoot into cars, crowds and buildings, we can use chokeholds and still shoot people with knives. New policy isn't that bad. The new TRR & TRRI are going to be a problem though. Too many narratives, PO / Sgt. / Lt. it isn't necessary, all that info is already in the arrest, case report and ISR. It's trying to be sold as we finally have a chance to tell our side of the story. Bullshit, we've always had the opportunity to tell our side in the case & arrest.
3:46 PM I worked for you LT.
I live by your words of advise
Stay FETAL , write paper on every crime , peoples we deal with are VIOLENT Document it
What about videotaping their training?
The real question, will you find COPA under the Cabana at Oak st Beach?
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