Exceptionally Cleared/Closed
- Tests show that the remains in a suburban Philadelphia grave are indeed those of a 19th century serial killer, quelling rumors that he’d conned his way out of execution and escaped from prison.
A judge approved the exhumation of Dr. H.H. Holmes’ grave earlier this year. Descendants requested it for a series called “American Ripper” on the History Channel. Part of the show looked at whether Holmes escaped, and scientists’ findings were revealed in this week’s final episode.
Holmes, the pseudonym of New Hampshire-born physician Herman Webster Mudgett, is believed to have killed an undetermined number people at his hotel of horrors during the 1893 Chicago World’s Fair. It featured a bizarre labyrinth of windowless rooms, secret passageways, false floors, trapdoors and a vault. Most of the rooms had gas vents that were controlled from Mudgett’s bedroom. Many of the rooms were soundproof and could only be locked from the outside.
The Area is claiming to have cleared nearly 200 homicides, mostly dating from the 1893 World's Fair. Numerous awards are being prepared as we speak.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
46 Comments:
Yayyy 007. As those homicides happened on 64th and Lowe, Englewood gets the credit. Go SDSC!!!! Oh wait, those clearances go to 620. Dammit!
200 imaginary murders from 125 years ago?
Now they try to hide them, not find them.
Saw it, very interesting show.
The title of the book alone is simply racist. /s
Beat of Occurrence: 722.
Now how about exceptionally clearing seven more on Beat 1814? Death of offenders John Scalise and Alberto Anselmi on behalf of one Alphonse Capone: The St. Valentine's Day Massacre. February 14, 1929 in the garage at 2122 N. Clark St.
Too bad the good doctor isn't alive today.
He'd be able to stamp out a good chunk of Englewood's problems singlehandedly.
He could promote monthly "Wasssup, Holmes!" FreakNic-like events, plummeting entire herds to the soundproof basement vault via a false floor, never to be seen or heard from again.
It featured a bizarre labyrinth of windowless rooms, secret passageways, false floors, trapdoors and a vault. Most of the rooms had gas vents that were controlled from the bedroom. Many of the rooms were soundproof and could only be locked from the outside.
Isn't this a description of the "black site" Homan Square ? LoL.
A postal worker at the Evergreen Park site on Kedzie told me that she worked midnights at the Post Office at 63rd&Lowe (where Holmes's castle was located). She had to get out of there...the place was haunted. There was a short documentary on cable about the basement of the Post Office being haunted. The building engineer took the visitor to the basement and pointed out where he saw the ghosts (all victims I assume) walking around at night. Old Timer
Definitely time for another Worlds Fair, in Hyde Park this time !!!
Leo will get another award or two for this case.
Scary stuff.
Hey Citizen Richard...sounds like 35th and Michigan.
If you clear dead bodies form a century ago it's still applied to this years clearance rate
My Maternal Grandmother, born in 1878, told us kiddies all about HH Holmes and his Murder Castle, about the 1893 Worlds Fair, and how it was called 'White City' due the breath-taking display of electric lights.
And like it says in the TV series, how thousands of young women traveled to Chicago alone looking for jobs, only for hundreds of them, they just 'disappeared', never to be seen nor heard from again by friends or relatives.
And there was something in the TV Series, episode 2 iirc, that I had to chuckle at -- though people (and folk) who don't read SCC regularly wouldn't get -- It was how the CPD handled some of the Murders of women they were finding: .......
--> They were finding dead women in Hotel rooms, in alleys, all with their Throats Cut, Cut ear to ear, and they would classify them all as SUICIDES! <--
I just had to chuckle at that. And thought,'Damn, CPD Brass has a long Tradition of screwing with Murder Stats'.
Then I thought of some Keystone Cop looking character saying to the Chicago press, "Crime Is Down".
several years ago, had a call to the post office at 64th and Lowe, the janitor was alone in the bldg. and totally freaked out because he was hearing screams and moans. many usps employees believed the bldg. was haunted. it was creepy and at the time I did not know about the propertys past.
Wouldn't they still be death investigations. Let's keep the murder rate down
Believe it or Not:
This was the first time detectives used the term "Death Investigation" that later became the standard used to tamp down high murder statistics.
Also, during a search of The Holmes Castle, a box containing wedding attire was found in one of the many secret rooms of the basement.
I know it wasn't the 7th dist back then in 1893, I think it was a Precinct. My take, the area in question is cursed. I just retired and feel for the 11-12% clear-up rate Homicide Detectives. Not being silly, but with that kind of clear-up rate, job security is in jeopardy. It was a local HA HA, and has developed into the country now looking at that clear-up rate. When I was getting ready to retire from the Detective/Division, what I witnessed was a bunch of new and old Detectives not even trying to work a case properly. Granted, my last six months was ducking and dodging any potential problems prior retirement, but that's the norm with the new Detectives. They do little canvassing, lack of revisiting information or witnesses, hardly recheck the progress of evidence or report if there are any new developments or leads. They spend most of their time on smart phones, computers, going home, and some have part time jobs that are visited during working hours. They go to 26th street and sign in and milk two or three more hours and arrive at work late, saying they were in court. They take two hour lunches or spent working time with girlfriends or family. Their favorite excuses, Sgt. suspect is lawyered up, the witnesses are not cooperating, the crime lab fuck up, ASA's are asking to investigate further, and on and on. They do not get into the street and work a case, failing to do the basics, like who's who such as witnesses, or possible offenders. There is little or no effort and this started about 13yrs ago. I'm writing this because I've become disgusted with the way Homicide Investigations are be mishandled. If this fucks up your little do nothing life in the D, so what. You're letting murder's walk and that's what's troubling to me.
Tom Dart is going to be upset. After he has his crack team of investigators finish the Gacy murder investigations, he was going to get right on this.
Doctors are dangerous accept the price gouging or be eliminated.
63rd and just east of Lowe, part of his place was the vacant strip east of the post office and the other part of the foundation was what is the post offices parking lot.
There has to be some way the bosses can squeeze five or ten medals/ribbons out of this one. Just give them a minute.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Leo will get another award or two for this case.
9/04/2017 06:44:00 AM
He has no more room for medals his shirt is for you wonder how many of these are legit and how many of these are eBay style?
Another Expressway shooting hello Leo;
Man shot while changing tire on I-290 with woman, toddler in car
Katherine Rosenberg-Douglas
Ambulance
A woman and a 2-year-old child were in a car that was shot at late Sunday night as a man tried to change a car tire on the shoulder of Interstate 290, state police said.
At 11:08 p.m., near the stopped vehicle off the west lanes of I-290 at Manheim Road, the man, whose age was not immediately released, was shot in the buttocks, according to a news release from the Illinois State Police. No one else was injured, officials said.
State police troopers were sent to Elmhurst Hospital where they found the wounded man, who was driven there by the woman, officials said. He had been shot in the buttocks while changing the tire and told authorities he: “felt a sharp pain and realized he was shot.”
All lanes of westbound traffic were closed and reopened about 1:15 a.m. Monday.
Anyone with information about the identity or whereabouts of shooter should contact: (847) 294-4000
You can't even change a tire on the expressway which is a risky proposition anyway now you get shot doing that totally ridiculous but yet I was driving down the expressway about a week and a half ago I see all the state police lights and sirens going escorting buses full of people Later come to find out these were the thugs from NFL Who receive police escorts from the Illinois State police everywhere they go in the state! This needs to stop nothing but a waste of time these are the same people that protest against the police openly on the football field by taking a knee like the cowards they are just another reason if you're a police officer and you support this league you are totally out of your mind how can you support anyone that maligned The police officers and United States military?
If you carefully read the book about Chicago,The Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair That Changed America by Erik Larson, you will find out that Holmes was protected in Chicago by people in high places. That is why he was not exposed there. Not much has changed in Shitcago since then.
Good thing he wasn't related to the Daley's.
H H Holmes worked at the Medical Section. ♠️
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I know it wasn't the 7th dist back then in 1893, I think it was a Precinct. My take, the area in question is cursed. I just retired and feel for the 11-12% clear-up rate Homicide Detectives. Not being silly, but with that kind of clear-up rate, job security is in jeopardy. It was a local HA HA, and has developed into the country now looking at that clear-up rate. When I was getting ready to retire from the Detective/Division, what I witnessed was a bunch of new and old Detectives not even trying to work a case properly. Granted, my last six months was ducking and dodging any potential problems prior retirement, but that's the norm with the new Detectives. They do little canvassing, lack of revisiting information or witnesses, hardly recheck the progress of evidence or report if there are any new developments or leads. They spend most of their time on smart phones, computers, going home, and some have part time jobs that are visited during working hours. They go to 26th street and sign in and milk two or three more hours and arrive at work late, saying they were in court. They take two hour lunches or spent working time with girlfriends or family. Their favorite excuses, Sgt. suspect is lawyered up, the witnesses are not cooperating, the crime lab fuck up, ASA's are asking to investigate further, and on and on. They do not get into
the street and work a case, failing to do the basics, like who's who such as witnesses, or possible offenders. There is little or no effort and this started about 13yrs ago. I'm writing this because I've become disgusted with the way Homicide Investigations are be mishandled. If this fucks up your little do nothing life in the D, so what. You're letting murder's walk and that's what's troubling to me.
Prior to retiring why didn't you take all of your knowledge, experience and testosterone and clear up a fewHomicides? I was a Detective years ago prior to becoming a Patrol Sergeant. Nothing has changed in the D-Unit. You "seasoned" dicks are the biggest crybabies on the job. New detectives come out eager to learn. Unfortunately, they adapt to what's already in place. Seasoned detectives holding car keys. Crying and placing ownership on vehicles just to go to lunch and pick up their dry cleaning. How do you expect the newbies to canvass when you are holding the car keys? Seasoned detectives telling the sergeants which jobs they will and will not take. Seasoned detective hold 3 to 4 lockers and file cabinets filled with old street files and confidential information. Seasoned detectives watching YouTube. The newbies were your scapegoat while you were dodging jobs prior to your retirement. Furthermore. If what's going on in the department still troubles you, you should seek help. Walk carefully because the CPS Burges curriculium did not come due to the new detectives of 13 years ago. It's coming about due to detectives of your time.
Thought this was a bogus holiday fluff piece
until I checked it out.
Dr. buried in pine box in Philly with unusual
instructions. Pour cement into coffin; let harden.
He wanted a second layer after the first dried.
Buried 9 ft. deep.
Re: name change.
This was after Lincoln's death, so he did not like "Mud."
The cement part probably comes from the fact that Lincoln's
brother had the body removed, moved to another cemetery,
and incased in a block of concrete to prevent grave robbers.
They didn't know about DNA in his day, so the cement actually
preserved the body somewhat, as it did not fully decay.
I wonder if the Philly Soda Tax helped with this project.
That was a precursor,the prototype if you will for the secret facility on the west side. No name or location otherwise I'll have to ........you know the rest.
If that's the case the south and west side are full of ghosts
Didn't we have a commander H. Holmes. I remember something about the lake,a squad car and police hat. Now what was that exactly hummm..... Oh well I'm sure he was no relation ..wasn't his real name
Maybe the bad Doctor was a frustrated builder/
real estate developer.
The carpenters who put in the trap doors, secret
passage ways, ect.: did they disappear after their
work was completed?
Sadistic, psychotic, criminally insane, heartless
piece of human shit filthy with money to build a castle.
No, I'm not speaking ill of the dead Doctor.
I refer to the Mayor of Chicago who sold his soul to the
Devil a long time ago. He walks the streets and drives of
this town, a walking corpse, raccoon eyes Walking Dead.
The undertaker will need white line paint from Streets & San
to hide those black circles. Black as his soul. The first Black Mayor
of Chicago, Rahm "Cheech" Emanuel. A good Jewish boy gone
terribly wrong.
Rahm, Rahm, how do you sleep at night?
Johnnie Walker Blue Label, sleeping pills,
and ether. I don't mind a morning bender,
I just chase it off with Beefeater. Nutmeg,
oh sweet nutmeg, bring me sweet dreams.
In broad daylight the only car on the road
using high beams.
F the N-F-L. No-nothing high school jocks
encouraged to develop mediocre athletic
talents. Used and abused in high school &
college. Legends in their own minds until
CTE takes over and they can't remember
their own names.
Parents getting wise: h.s. football participation
is down nationwide. Who wants to be a vegetable?
Enjoy the ISP escorts for your party busses while you
can. When you see blue lights after age 55, it will be
because you slaughtered your family, then morphed into
a scoped-out sniper killing the Viet Cong running rampant
in the neighborhood.
And all this science
I don't understand
It's just my job
Five days a week
A Seasoned Detective here Sgt., your right on almost all points, but believe me, the newbies are useless and don't want to learn. On the point of Detectives telling their supervisors what jobs they want or not want is a pipe dream in your own mind. If I would tell my Sgt that I did not want an assignment, I'd be written up, reprimanded or worst. The guys debating about assignments are the Sgt suck holes and you know fucking well that's the why it is. I come to work and in my mail box are jobs assigned to me, you know Sgt. the fucking case load we Seasoned Detectives Carry. And don't forget about the paper you have to put together and if your late there's that late list hanging over your head. The shit you're talking about ownership of vehicles doesn't occur much in a Homicide unit. Therefore Sgt., you must have been a property fighting crime Ace's in your day. Bruge and his bunch were running around more the twenty years ago, and no one here cares about the CPS curriculum or is threatened in any why. There are not many new dicks coming out eager to learn as you have insinuated. Excuse me for now Sgt., I have to hit the street in a pool car that needs a brake job.
"Walk carefully because the CPS Burges curriculium did not come due to the new detectives of 13 years ago. It's coming about due to detectives of your time."
What on earth are you talking about? The Burge era has been gone for decades.
And for the "newbies", Burge was a hero cop of our city, targeted by SDS and wealthy socialists - who have won after decades of law suits and political pay offs.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A Seasoned Detective here Sgt., your right on almost all points, but believe me, the newbies are useless and don't want to learn. On the point of Detectives telling their supervisors what jobs they want or not want is a pipe dream in your own mind. If I would tell my Sgt that I did not want an assignment, I'd be written up, reprimanded or worst. The guys debating about assignments are the Sgt suck holes and you know fucking well that's the way it is. I come to work and in my mail box are jobs assigned to me, you know Sgt. the fucking case load we Seasoned Detectives Carry. And don't forget about the paper you have to put together and if your late there's that late list hanging over your head. The shit you're talking about ownership of vehicles doesn't occur much in a Homicide unit. Therefore Sgt., you must have been a property fighting crime Ace's in your day. Bruge and his bunch were running around more the twenty years ago, and no one here cares about the CPS curriculum or is threatened in any way. There are not many new dicks coming out eager to learn as you have insinuated. Excuse me for now Sgt., I have to hit the street in a pool car that needs a brake job.
9/04/2017 11:24:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Walk carefully because the CPS Burges curriculium did not come due to the new detectives of 13 years ago. It's coming about due to detectives of your time."
What on earth are you talking about? The Burge era has been gone for decades.
And for the "newbies", Burge was a hero cop of our city, targeted by SDS and wealthy socialists - who have won after decades of law suits and political pay offs.
9/05/2017 12:40:00 AM
Hey Sgt., come to one of the south side area's and get a real taste of what being a seasoned Detective is all about. No one debates with our Sgt. about assignments, assigned vehicles, and we work together under the worst conditions the department has ever experienced. And yes we seasoned Detective try to impart our experience to these newbies, but some are merit and that speaks for itself. And this Burge mention, like that's something I should be some how in fear; is so far off the mark in this present day it makes me think we are dealing with an IAD snitch.
Again l. I worked Area two and four and nothing has changed since I left the Area.
Hey Sgt., come to one of the south side area's and get a real taste of what being a seasoned Detective is all about. No one debates with our Sgt. about assignments, assigned vehicles, and we work together under the worst conditions the department has ever experienced. And yes we seasoned Detective try to impart our experience to these newbies, but some are merit and that speaks for itself. And this Burge mention, like that's something I should be some how in fear; is so far off the mark in this present day it makes me think we are dealing with an IAD snitch.
Another patrol sergeant here. I'm curious, if he comes and work a south side area what will he get a taste of? What lesson are you going to show him when the clearance rate is less than 13%?
The Area is claiming to have cleared nearly 200 homicides, mostly dating from the 1893 World's Fair. Numerous awards are being prepared as we speak.
This just in........The channel 7 I Team has investigated the original police officers and detectives who actually worked on this case and has found that they were totally incompetent in their investigation. The I Team then went to the new civilian police investigative group, COPA, with their findings. The new head of COPA immediately called a news conference to state that their investigators found several current officers, who are related to the original investigators, who will be stripped and charged with the crimes of their ancestors.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Sgt., come to one of the south side area's and get a real taste of what being a seasoned Detective is all about. No one debates with our Sgt. about assignments, assigned vehicles, and we work together under the worst conditions the department has ever experienced. And yes we seasoned Detective try to impart our experience to these newbies, but some are merit and that speaks for itself. And this Burge mention, like that's something I should be some how in fear; is so far off the mark in this present day it makes me think we are dealing with an IAD snitch.
Another patrol sergeant here. I'm curious, if he comes and work a south side area what will he get a taste of? What lesson are you going to show him when the clearance rate is less than 13%?
9/06/2017 04:28:00 AM
i don't normally comment on others personal beliefs or opinions, however, too the patrol sergeant who is curious about a south side area detectives comment on what will he get a taste of; the sgt. who made the comments about detectives telling a sgt. what assignments they want, having their own fleet of vehicles all to themselves, and hoarding lockers is just a bunch of BS. The taste I believe he was referring to, is the area sergeant basically runs the unit, he is almost never challenged on case assignment matters. The taste he would get, a busy well organized unit, not the crybaby detectives he was attempting to sell. So patrol sergeant, even you should be aware of his last comments, "Again, I worked Area two and four and nothing has changed since I left the Area." From what he described initially, and the Area's he claims he worked, are not as he described. So the question Sgt., who's bullshiting who and I will go as far to say, I would believe a hard working Homicide Detective over a real crybaby Sgt.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Again l. I worked Area two and four and nothing has changed since I left the Area.
9/06/2017 04:17:00 AM
I'm retracting all of my statements and apologize for calling Detectives crybabies. I've revisited the Area and can see many things have changed in a positive way. I guess some times you have to give and other times you have to take. Today I'm giving and manning up to being wrong.
about summer of 73 had a call to he post office at 63rd and wallace,all the employees out on side walk,supervisor said the over head lights through out the building going on and off, others saw ppl in basemebnt, shadows sounds the whole nine yards,partner and i went in and checked upper area then went to basement and the temp dropped twenty degrees and a vibe of sadness struck us both and hairs on arms stood up,didn't know at the time that when po was built that they kept the original foundations that Holmes put in,when we went back out we took the boss aside and told him the history of the building that he didn't know about,it is probably still going on,haunted???you bet.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
about summer of 73 had a call to he post office at 63rd and wallace,all the employees out on side walk,supervisor said the over head lights through out the building going on and off, others saw ppl in basemebnt, shadows sounds the whole nine yards,partner and i went in and checked upper area then went to basement and the temp dropped twenty degrees and a vibe of sadness struck us both and hairs on arms stood up,didn't know at the time that when po was built that they kept the original foundations that Holmes put in,when we went back out we took the boss aside and told him the history of the building that he didn't know about,it is probably still going on,haunted???you bet.
9/07/2017 11:28:00 PM
You and your partner should have taken TD on the front. That's what you do when visiting a bar before coming to work. Just saying.
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