Sunday, September 03, 2017

FOP Responds to CPS

Here's a link to the Burge material that CPS is using to brainwash children.

Here's the FOP response (click for larger versions)



A so-so start.

How about a point-by-point refutation of the material.

A "fact sheet" with which to counter the propaganda? Something that concerned parents can use to justify withdrawing their kids from this slanted and biased bit of historical revisionism?

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150 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP and its friends need to make a sustained campaign to refute the lies.
Demand equal time to refute the lies, present the truth.

You are fighting for the hearts and minds of Chicago's youth.

9/03/2017 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Talking to these "educators" is like talking to a door knob. The Leftist police haters have an agenda. They will do as they please with the blessings of Democrat politicians. How about a class on corrupt self serving criminal Democrat politicians. Never happen.

9/03/2017 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Philly police union president spoke out against BLM stating they are a rabid pack of animals.

Way to go!!!

9/03/2017 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I doubt that anything Prieb wrote about in this letter will be addressed in the CPS' Burge curriculum, as facts and truths would be a distraction to whatever anti-police agenda is being implemented.

9/03/2017 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just shocking...........

9/03/2017 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Well crafted and artfully incisive rebuttal to
CPS SJW/Perpetual Race Grievance brainwashing by Marty Preib.

Facts tend to get in the way of prevailing
narration and the political agenda behind
said narration.

"Why can't you Cops just accept that what you
did in the past was bad and embrace "Police
Reform" in it's entirety to restore the community's
trust in the Police?"

Not until "Equal Time" is given more than mere
lip service?

Just a thought...

Police Like You Have No friends.

9/03/2017 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The letter is good, as are your suggestions. I hope that will be allowed. Also, I hope more people read Martin Preib's books and blog.

9/03/2017 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPS teach the Kids about the Executinon of Fahey and Obrien by the Wilson Brothers,I Will Never Forget.

9/03/2017 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just have to wonder where all that data was farmed from; did they scour all the trial materials from all the cases where there was a guilty verdict against this giant conspiracy of evil police officers? There are all kinds of specific "facts" used in the curriculum that I don't ever recall being proven in a court of law or even charges brought for that matter.
I'm not suggesting this is ALL bullshit, but accusations don't always equal truths.

I give this course a D.

9/03/2017 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's all just move out of here.

9/03/2017 01:40:00 AM  
Blogger Geek4Hire said...

Well this is the type of communication required in all aspects. And it does not have to take place publicly. It would really go a long way in resolving past bullshit between factions in this city. Though me personally I have questions, but realizing that number one, as cops you need to work together and that bond is strong. Fine, but this letter should be shown to the students as well. Fuck, just have this guy speak to the kids himself.

9/03/2017 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very well written however will fall on deaf ears. How many teachers cried and took time off when killary lost and you think actual facts will get in the way of them making the world right again? I say HA!!

9/03/2017 02:08:00 AM  
Anonymous IN THE KNOW said...

SHOCKING - but yet, not unbelievable.

When it comes to CPS, when did facts ever matter? When did teaching the right skills ever matter?

With a 50% graduation rate (or less), they need to work on a LOT of things. This Burge thing is NOT a priority.

9/03/2017 02:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP and the parents of the school children have a right
to all copies of materials to be presented in the Chicago School System.
That includes facts, dates, sworn testimony, all references for said
material and the names of the teachers formulating and composing this
"course."
What are the qualifications of the teachers? The material to be presented:
is it merely old newspaper clippings and "oral histories" obtained from people
with axes to grind?
Is it even legal to present an impromptu course written by local teachers and
not approved or reviewed by the State of Illinois?
The educational system was not designed to be hijacked by rogue teachers to
present personal points of view and opinions, package them as coursework, and then
pass that material on to impressionable young students as proven facts.

9/03/2017 02:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of these CPS teachers are pulling down 6-figure salaries
along with benefits. But they have no right to collude and dream
up a new course to essentially advance their own agendas, whatever
they may be. They may be qualified to teach proven material and
subjects, but they are absolutely NOT qualified to compile and present
new coursework which boils down to propaganda and amounts to the
brainwashing of children.
These teachers work for the taxpayers, at the pleasure of the taxpayers,
and under the supervision of the taxpayers.
The teachers are NOT qualified to teach at the college or university level,
let alone formulate new and unproven coursework for presentation.

9/03/2017 02:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fine, Daley better be in the lesson plan as states attorney at the time. Btw, why is the company who got the parking meter deal paying him 300k a year for life?

9/03/2017 03:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please, someone: obtain a Scope of Practice
for teachers from the Board of Education.
Are they entitled to petition the Board to introduce
new cirriculum to students on a subject of their
(the teachers) choosing?
Who ultimately is responsible for the review and
accuracy of a new course. Is the new course
really necessary or revelant for the educational
development of the students. Most importantly,
will this new course be recognized for credit towards
college or university admission by the College Board of
Admissions? Are we inadvertently holding back or handicapping
Chicago students by having this new course on their educational resume?
There are many unanswered valid questions concerning this course, the most
important being harming the Chicago students within a national educational system.
The world is bigger than Chicago and I fear that a College Admissions Officer will see
this course and interpret it as a "filler" or "cake" course with no practical application and
merely designed to raise the GPA of the student. The course smacks of local politics and
has no place in the preparation of the student for a complicated global economy.

9/03/2017 03:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

every year more antifa and BLM morons will be created. thank you jabba the hut and the commie libs in shitcongo. anything to keep getting votes...SMH

9/03/2017 03:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice try....pretty diplomatic retort. Advocacy just raised it's head from the water. How's about a launch from the submarine that has been running silent and deep for months. It's contract negotiation time. Time to get ruthless.

9/03/2017 04:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPS is full of coruption.

9/03/2017 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many CPS students finish school and are unable to read?

9/03/2017 05:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

COPA is coming as of 15 September. Be careful. Twelve days to go. They will be on the hunt to establish their reputation. Here's hoping they fail miserably.

9/03/2017 05:23:00 AM  
Blogger Joker said...

How about a point-by-point refutation of the material.

I'm sure that will come next.......but will it be believed? Why let the facts get in the way of a good story? You are looking at a generation who has been taught that no matter what, the police are the bad guys.

9/03/2017 05:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Please, someone: obtain a Scope of Practice
for teachers from the Board of Education.
Are they entitled to petition the Board to introduce
new cirriculum to students on a subject of their
(the teachers) choosing?
Who ultimately is responsible for the review and
accuracy of a new course. Is the new course
really necessary or revelant for the educational
development of the students. Most importantly,
will this new course be recognized for credit towards
college or university admission by the College Board of
Admissions? Are we inadvertently holding back or handicapping
Chicago students by having this new course on their educational resume?
There are many unanswered valid questions concerning this course, the most
important being harming the Chicago students within a national educational system.
The world is bigger than Chicago and I fear that a College Admissions Officer will see
this course and interpret it as a "filler" or "cake" course with no practical application and
merely designed to raise the GPA of the student. The course smacks of local politics and
has no place in the preparation of the student for a complicated global economy.

9/03/2017 03:10:00 AM

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9/03/2017 05:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just own the Burge problem. They already hate you this is not going to make any difference. The FOP response is to little and way to late. Where were they on a hundred other issues over the last several years. You guys need to get smart and elect a real in their face spokesperson. Hire a public relation expert and go on the offensive against the BLM crowd. Call out the alder-creatures ion any deserving public safety issues. Get on national news shows and tell the true story. If more people nationally knew about SCC and Heyjackass the city fathers would be quaking in their boots. The real truth about the risks of visiting the city would definitely begin to affect tourism. Then and only then will you see some real positive change.

9/03/2017 06:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

History is written by the victors. The war on the police is not over but it will be if this kind of truth is fed to "skulls full of mush". The average Illinois citizen already believes the CPS version. This could be a teaching opportunity for all of the state and country but that would require the CPS to step up, what are the odd on that?

9/03/2017 06:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought the letter was excellent. Direct and to the point

9/03/2017 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay fetal, pay for private education.

9/03/2017 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One more year of catholic grade school and then off to "college prep"
Brothers of Holy Cross Midwest Province

9/03/2017 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mope-rah says all cops should be forced to take this course.
Fuck you Mope-rah

9/03/2017 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes please!!! A point by point refutation. I will print it off and pass out to parents at my kids school.

9/03/2017 07:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put cameras on the teachers so we can see what really happens in a class room,especially high schools. Total chaos in some of them. The teachers have no control over some of the students.Total b/s about Burge. The lawyers are the ones who invented the box and coached all the murderers about it . This will never end until FOP,and the police dept City start fighting back but it seems that won't happen either.

9/03/2017 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about a course on riot history in the U.S. and on the looting history in the country during times of crisis in major cities? Oops not our agenda to inform and educate about the "Black Crime Wave" which is akin to the "Dust Bowl" in the 30s

9/03/2017 07:37:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

It's nice to see that the FOP not rolling over to nonsense like in the Deano days.

9/03/2017 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What if they taught a course about all the sexual abuse teachers have committed to students throughout just the last 25 years.

9/03/2017 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A waste of union resources as this will go nowhere. Let's start writing letters about our contract and healthcare issues.

9/03/2017 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is exactly why over the course of my last nineteen years I never applied for nor accepted any of the several connected offers I was given to get into CPS. My family has certainly suffered for my choice as after 19 years of teaching in a Catholic school my 45K a year salary is less than half of what my CPS counterparts are getting for the same time and I have no retirement aside from the 9 Grand lump sum I will be getting for my 20 years of service, but I refused to sell my soul and I stand by that decision today. Roughly 80% of the students I teach are the sons and daughters of a city worker, as they are the only ones who can afford a private school tuition these days and there is always room for more so when you don't like the fact that your kid is being sent off every day to be told what a scumbag you (the police) are, please keep us in mind. As a Protestant in a Catholic school (says something right there) and the son of a 27 year CPD veteran I will attest In God and Police we still trust, the American flag still flies in our classroom and we never strike for "the good of the children". Please consider us when the bullshit gets nose high.

9/03/2017 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous IN THE KNOW said...
SHOCKING - but yet, not unbelievable.

When it comes to CPS, when did facts ever matter? When did teaching the right skills ever matter?

With a 50% graduation rate (or less), they need to work on a LOT of things. This Burge thing is NOT a priority.


9/03/2017 02:18:00 AM


Anybody possessed of clarity and mental acuity
KNOWS the "John Burge Curriculum" at CPS
is nothing but sufficiently hotted-up, diversionary,
perpetual race grievance bullshit that has been
artfully crafted to crowd out the fact that CPS is
an abysmal and stinking-out-loud failure.

The educators bave sold out to the left and CPS
resembles more a Khmer Rouge re-education camp
than a place where children are taught so that they
can go out into the world and compete on equal
footing with the best the world has to offer.

Heh... Cultural institutions being overthrown?

Young skulls filled with God-Awful, corrosive,
hateful and ultimately useless ideology?

The merest pretense paid toward actually
teaching these children critical and useful
skills instead of drilling them on how to tick
the "right boxes" on a Scan-Tron because
ticking enough of the right boxes allows a
funding food pellet to clatter down the chute
only to be snatched up and carried away by
politicians and administrators with absolutely
ZERO due care paid to the children?

Well... Since the Khmer Rouge model is what's
actually being slid in place at CPS, we can only
hope the little darlings follow the Trotskyite/
Maoist script to a T and eventually take their place
in the apparatus hierarchy, round up their former
teachers and administrators, level charges like
"Organizational Cynicism" or some such, then
march their former teachers and administrators
off into the woods, never to be seen or heard from
again.

The loons in charge will have no standing to cry
or complain when it happens as these are truly
THEIR ugly ideological babies.

Failed product in a failed system but someway,
somehow, Policemen are being blamed for it.

Police Like You Have No Friends.
repeat itself in that regard

9/03/2017 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't fit the agenda.

9/03/2017 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Realistically, you will not be able to change the teachers and their unions ideas, see below

Public School Teachers Behind Violent Antifa Group

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/public-school-teachers-behind-violent-antifa-group/

9/03/2017 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about showing the actual video at a teachers rally in the shadow of the white elephant State of Illinois building with our lovely teachers saying, "fuck the police!"

9/03/2017 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will never forgive the CTU and it's leaders for the "Fuck The Police" chant at their wildcat strike rally last Spring.

9/03/2017 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When are schools going to teach the truth about the Irish Holocaust? Millions of Irish were killed in mass graves,tortured and forced into slavery. The Irish certainly did starve to death, not because of a potato famine, because they were stripped of their cattle, grains and crops. Where are my reparations?

9/03/2017 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teach the students how to read and think for themselves. Then teach them about the Jackson's, Bennett's and other famous Blacks who raped and robbed their own, for their own personal gain!

9/03/2017 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the teachers union is not a friend of the police

9/03/2017 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the teachers really want to make a difference, teach the basics with a big side of citizenship. How to be a good citizen, contributing to the community, what it means to put others needs ahead of your own, why worshipping criminals and being a criminal only makes them scum.
Maybe raising standards will help. Lowering them sure as hell didn't make things any better, thank you worthless liberal democrats!

J.J.

9/03/2017 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will be interesting to see the response at Mt. Greenwood school.
The enrollment is overwhelming with children of Chicago police officers. Speaking as a parent of a child at the school I plan on removing my child on the day/S those classes are to take place. Also, I'm aware of many others who plan on doing the same. The plan, is to remove the children at the strt of said class and then return the child to school after said class. Imagine several hundred kids being pulled at the same time daily for the course of a week.

9/03/2017 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop Marty and get my benefits back. I retired and have no health insurance. Go be a union and get out of bed with the city

9/03/2017 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much did CPS pay these organizations to help prepare this lesson plan?
How much additional tax dollars were spent?
How much money did these organizations get whether directly or indirectly from the city of shitcago? Always follow the money. Always.

American Bar Foundation
Black People Against Police Torture
Chicago Torture Justice Center
Chicago Torture Justice Memorials
Constitutional Rights Foundation Chicago

9/03/2017 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A better question is why anyone would send their kids to CPS ? To learn , that's to funny to respond to !! They are the creators of the problems we deal with regularly.

9/03/2017 09:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what that black-box would be worth Ior how much the New York Times would pay for it.

9/03/2017 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teach the students the facts? Teach the teachers the facts!

9/03/2017 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well over 100 years of liberal rule and people are still surprised when this alternate reality crap materializes. Clout, corruption, unqualified and overpaid morons dropped into positions in which failure is the guaranteed outcome, is the Chicago way. It's more like a quagmire than a swamp. The drain is plugged.

9/03/2017 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is just mind boggling.The liberal media has manipulated the news and the minds of people incapable of logic to the point now that 13% of our population gets to pick and choose what parts of history should be remembered.And the rest of America better believe it.Off to Cabelas -ammos on sale.

9/03/2017 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at your tax bill. 54% is for Chicago school systems. Most of the schools are like going to the zoo! P.S. have the teachers pay more than 2% into their pension. If they worked for a private company most would be fired the first day of school. Time to vote all dumbocraths out.

9/03/2017 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Very good letter.
CPS will ignor it.

FOP if your serious about this issue,
go into court and get an injunction to stop
this course from being taught.
Demand CPS prove every word they
teach is true. Setup a committee, overseen
by the court, of CPS and retired Dets (paid by CPS)
to review the material and separate facts from lies.
It's for the children, they must be taught the truth.






9/03/2017 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Civilian here.

I would suggest Martin Prieb readdress his letter and send it to the newspapers, hopefully, to be published in their "Letter tot he Editor" section or have him guest write a column that is occasionally printed.

Wouldn't hurt to try.

9/03/2017 10:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: Fine, Daley better be in the lesson plan as states attorney at the time. Btw, why is the company who got the parking meter deal paying him 300k a year for life?

++++++++++

Please identify the name of the company and the primary source of the information (i.e., is it in a contract, in a shareholders' disclosure statement, etc?) I'm sure the feds would like this information as well.

9/03/2017 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NOBLE is preparing a test and answer sheet for this class as we speak...

9/03/2017 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about a course on the history of gang violence. About how gang members have killed, tortured, forced young people into prostitution, sold drugs, destroyed neighborhoods, and terrorized communities.

Lets teach about the connection between gangs and politicians in Chicago.

Lets teach about the race of victims of gang violence and the race of the criminals.

Lets teach about the prisons and how gang members spend their time.

Lets teach about the corruption and stupidity of the courts in Cook County.

Lets teach them about things that affect the children of Chicago everyday, that deny them an opportunity to have a future, that will destroy the life of someone they know, teach them that the politicians lack the courage to change things that they profit from.

Lets tell them the truth.



9/03/2017 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"slanted and biased bit of historical revisionism"

Uh...What's slanted, biased or revisionist, about men being released from prison, seemingly monthly, and their convictions thrown out and/or reversed after DNA evidence clearly proves they never should've been convicted to begin with?
God, I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the police department, (retired) and it's members who still chose to lick at the nuts of Burge and his crew. Despite all the evidence of their bullshit.
May he, his crew, and his remaining supporters all in the deepest depths of hell.

9/03/2017 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So,so response... "

At least there has been a response. Who signed off on this deal within the FOP in the first place? Retorical question. It was that dummy do nothing Angelo. I'm sure Prieb's future responses will have plenty of point by point arguments. The question is, will they allow that to happen. I would label this letter as a great first step, especially considering how the FOP show was being ran in the past.

9/03/2017 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Public school teacher unions are funding ANITIFA in california!

9/03/2017 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will CPS also cover Richard Daley's involvement?

9/03/2017 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God, I am so glad to have my kids out of CPS!

9/03/2017 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marty stay on script!

9/03/2017 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous In the know, or not. said...

Letters WILL NOT and CAN NOT rectify anything in this City or CPS. The UNION must call for a vote of no-confidence of RHAM & his hand picked SUP. The UNION must come out to ALL roll calls and dictate to officers that each job should be handled following the GENERAL ORDERS...acknowledge the job, turn on nights & sirens, follow traffic laws, protect the sanctity of life (of the offender, victims be damned) and cut paper. While educating the young (and stupid at times) PO's our UNION should have a list of officers/supervisors (with names) who've been fucked for doing the job (as examples of what this City, and this SUP do to PO's who wanna be the police). Only a complete work stoppage (which includes VRI) will get the right people to stand up and take notice or just get their heads outta the sand. We are our own worst enemy but unless we come together for our collective good we will ALWAYS be defeated by this Mayor (and all Mayors that follow him).

FOP, pick a month (while it's still warm) and call for a moratorium on VRI. Lets be heard by all at City Hall & 35th - loud and clear, that we are united. Anyone who signs up for that period loses the protections afforded by the FOP for 12 months in terms of legal representation for all matters but not collective bargaining.

9/03/2017 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical of CPS. Fail miserably at teaching the 3 R's and compensate with an anti police agenda. I gladfully pay to send my kids to private school.

9/03/2017 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey guys and girls. Don't turn this into a battle between the police and teachers. This was mandated by the courts. The teachers didn't choose this curriculum, it was forced on them.

9/03/2017 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gonna have to get this letter widely published outside the CPS institutional framework if there is to be any hope of telling the whole story.

9/03/2017 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And because of residency our tax dollars actually fund this garbage.

9/03/2017 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPS teach the students about cost of having a baby , raising a child , providing a loving , caring two parent household , how to keep your home , streets , alleys clean . Value of two parent family , respecting teachers , neighbors , elders , police and fire . Not to commit arson , murder , use or sell drugs .
everyday you can listen to parents , grandparents calling about their children from ages 14 to 40 , they need Police to respond because these so called children are tearing up the house , beating them up , high on drugs . Now that has been an on going problem for the last 25 years and gets worse .
Cradle to Grave is what they learn from crack head baby mama , sperm donor daddy
no life in the ghetto . do not see any of the so called rappers , politicians , activists rebuilding or moving in the ghetto . No they want to live with the rich , evil , law abiding Asians, caucasians , Hispanics

9/03/2017 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe cps should talk about al Capone, the vice lords and other assholes who have and continue to destroy lives in chicago. Picking on the evil police is low hanging fruit I guess.

9/03/2017 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prieb is the best spokesperson for that the FOP has had in years. However, is he being held back. I used to work with Prieb. Believe me he is a bull in a china shop when it comes to the various issues involving the men and woman of the department. I have a feeling that the current FOP President and some left overs from the previous administration is holding him back. Prieb is something like Trump, he wanted to drain the swamp. The letter was very well written but I think someone tone it down. Keep up the good work Martin and please keep up the fight.

9/03/2017 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't want a penny of my tax payer dollars paying for this blatant propaganda to demonize the CPD. This brainwashing of Chicago's youth is despicable and reprehensible. The leaders of the Chicago Teachers Union and political leadership should be ashamed of themselves. Leave politics OUT of the schools. Focus on teaching youth the skills that they will need to compete in the marketplace. What is dredging this up going to achieve? More animus and strain on racial relations?

If you want to teach students about their rights, focus on the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and subsequent Civil Rights statutes. Keep the propaganda out of it.

9/03/2017 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Marty's all about Marty said...

Marty can write but he's never been the police. If someone is allowed to teach a curriculum in concert with CPS teachers it ought to be retired VC detectives, not a dude that pushed the wagon in a slow district.

9/03/2017 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP can only put out a letter.
CPS will not bend nor will CTU or Uncle Rahmus...He's with Them.

Progressive and sub par CPS educational system (53% of the collected real estate taxes) will push the agenda any way they wish.
It's unfortunate we have to subsidize them.
NW side libbtards are increasingly coddling the Inclusive-Diversity bullshit too.
So the teachers here must be on board.
As for a "concerned parent".
Very few exist and they send kids to private schools that don't preach propaganda.

There should be opt-out curriculum, especially since we pay for the education system.
Going cheap and sending kids to these liberal brainwash camps is a shame.

9/03/2017 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why bother do you honestly think they have funding for this great class?
Its a show RAHM pushes just like the snitch boxes and the gun shot detectors all bullshit.

If FOP waste time on nonsense then it keeps them from studying contracts during talks!

9/03/2017 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The CPS is hell bent to destroy the CPD for Mayor Rahm, isn't Mr Sharkey a communist you know who he is. So birds of a feather flock together.

9/03/2017 03:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad to see fop write that letter. Curious to see a response if any.

9/03/2017 03:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

duhhhhhh, if you are on the CPS payroll as a brain-washer then having parents opt-out for their chillun is NOT an option.

Every l'il brain in Chicongo is dirty, filthy, just awful & in need of all the Brain-Washing available.

Please remember the job of CPS is not to Educate, it's to Inculcate & they are doing their primary task, the brain-washing task, very well. Thank you very much

9/03/2017 04:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If both sides of the story are told and students are able to chose for themselves what is real then how in the world do you expect the educators to build a stronger AntiFA cadre to commit increased violence? They need to prep their hate at a younger age so that college age students can beat people with pipes and boards because of their white guilt.

9/03/2017 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


FOP, pick a month (while it's still warm) and call for a moratorium on VRI. Lets be heard by all at City Hall & 35th - loud and clear, that we are united. Anyone who signs up for that period loses the protections afforded by the FOP for 12 months in terms of legal representation for all matters but not collective bargaining.

9/03/2017 11:16:00 AM


Hummina, hummina, hummina.....How am I going to pay for my new Harley and my cool tribal tattoos?

9/03/2017 04:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/03/2017 07:08:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Put cameras on the teachers so we can see what really happens in a class room,especially high schools. Total chaos in some of them. The teachers have no control over some of the students.Total b/s about Burge. The lawyers are the ones who invented the box and coached all the murderers about it . This will never end until FOP,and the police dept City start fighting back but it seems that won't happen either.

9/03/2017 07:28:00 AM

I agree.
Cameras for all teachers and CPS employees.
It'll help with transparency and accountability.

Why should they object?
If they're not doing anything wrong they should have nothing to hide.

9/03/2017 04:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey guys and girls. Don't turn this into a battle between the police and teachers. This was mandated by the courts. The teachers didn't choose this curriculum, it was forced on them.

9/03/2017 11:48:00 AM



Prove this.

Please.

9/03/2017 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to all those complaining about taxes
keeping voting democratic
sanctuary city , county
free education , free school breakfast , lunch , after school snack for illegals , students that are children of parents receiving link , wic other welfare to feed and house the kids
we the working class are paying for private tuition , breakfast , lunch , transportation for our kids
we are getting ripped off by this machine party

9/03/2017 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

r kids do not receive a safe passage , free book bags , school supplies
did rahm call to remind you when the first day of school was for your child

9/03/2017 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously, a parent would be better off home schooling your child, with occasional tutororial assistance until the child is eligible to take the G.E.D. Rather than putting him into a C P S high school. It would be safer, cheaper and qualify him for college sooner.

9/03/2017 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The president of a Pennsylvania police union responded to Black Lives Matter activists demanding accountability for the police killing of a black man by calling the group a “pack of rabid animals.”

Philadelphia Fraternal Order of Police President John McNesby made the statement Thursday during a rally held by and in support of police, according to NBC Philadelphia. The “Back the Blue” rally was in response to a protest the week before by members of Black Lives Matter held outside the house of Officer Ryan Pownall, who fatally shot a David Jones in June

9/03/2017 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a kid starting Kindergarten in CPS this year. If this "program" is still around by the time she has to take it, she will not be in attendance (or my sons after her). We will instead visit Gold Star Memorial Park and write a paper in honor of one of the hero's enshrined there.I would welcome the information to refute the information being used in this "program." I encourage all blue famimy to keep their kids away from this BS.

9/03/2017 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Hey guys and girls. Don't turn this into a battle between the police and teachers. This was mandated by the courts. The teachers didn't choose this curriculum, it was forced on them.


Did the court force them to say, "Fuck the police at their rally." Fuck them all.

9/03/2017 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley joining law firm he previously hired for city's meter deal and other privatization work

Katten Muchin Rosenman, a law firm that the city has paid more than $1.2 million for work on privatization deals and other matters since 2005, announced this morning that it's adding a new attorney: former Mayor Richard M. Daley.

9/03/2017 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Allow the students to opt out, if their parents want.

9/03/2017 07:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: We apparently now have the "Laquan Effect" [eyeroll].

http://interactive.wbez.org/everyotherhour/laquan-effect/

9/03/2017 07:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brainwashing kids? Like all these god damn leftist propaganda public schools funded by 2 out of 10 human beings that actually work and own a home for property taxes.

Yea okay

Oh, and fuck you rahm.

9/03/2017 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey guys and girls. Don't turn this into a battle between the police and teachers. This was mandated by the courts. The teachers didn't choose this curriculum, it was forced on them.

BS. Your wife must be a teacher. Open your eyes, look at the Teachers Union and their leadership. The teachers voted them in by a large majority so don't tell me the teachers don't want this
The union did nothing to try and stop this

9/03/2017 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/03/2017 11:24:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey guys and girls. Don't turn this into a battle between the police and teachers. This was mandated by the courts. The teachers didn't choose this curriculum, it was forced on them.

You're kidding right. Look at the majority of the teachers when they were out on strike and you can say with a straight face they didn't want this

9/03/2017 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Friendly Reminder: for those of you who work CPS part-time, if a situation arise the principal/ B.O.E are not going back you. They are afraid of their shadows. Principals don't want negative publicity involving the school. The staff don't have your back and never did. After the Burges course, expect to be tried by these little shits. Don't lose your CPD pension trying to work CPS.

9/03/2017 08:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The second poster 9/2/17 @12:15 said it all for me. There is a leftist social agenda that transcends any ability of the CPS to balance any sort of so called education. They operate with disregard for context, truth and relevancy in exchange for a predetermined agenda thinks this citizen reader.

Was it Marty who penned an article in the Reader years ago that gave a bio on Burge I recall as interesting and informative? I kind of understood how Burge thinks from that piece. I would not condone beating people and forcing them to confess to things they did not do but I understood to some extent how Burge became what you may call a crusader against evil people in the city. He followed the rules, the law and saw the law fail to administer justice. He morphed over his career into someone who may have handled things his own way to compensate for the systematic failure of the system. Stay safe and thank you for all you police do every day.

9/03/2017 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Prieb is the best spokesperson for that the FOP has had in years. However, is he being held back. I used to work with Prieb. Believe me he is a bull in a china shop when it comes to the various issues involving the men and woman of the department. I have a feeling that the current FOP President and some left overs from the previous administration is holding him back. Prieb is something like Trump, he wanted to drain the swamp. The letter was very well written but I think someone tone it down. Keep up the good work Martin and please keep up the fight.

----

What's holding Preib back from going out in the field and doing his job? Put down the novel, you have real work to do. FOP has more trustees and VP's and fluff than city hall has aldermen, and gets about the same amount of things done.

9/03/2017 09:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about class about teachers being pedophiles.

9/03/2017 09:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what that black-box would be worth and how much the New York Times would pay for it.

9/03/2017 09:54:00 AM

Put it on E-Bay, but first test it on Fat Head Ed, and Tiny dancer, they might like it.

9/03/2017 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are obviously failing to see that your disdain for teachers falls right into the road map of Rahm being elected again. The majority of the teachers are married to cops, firefighters and other city workers. They would be hellbent to stand against anything that each and every one of you do. Sadly, all of the articles that Rahm has planted has pitted you against them, them against you.

Don't believe the hype. It is only done so that Rahm can splinter the vote and cake-walk his way into another election.

9/03/2017 10:30:00 PM  
Anonymous 29 and aday said...

the CTU sent 4 busloads of teachers to Ferguson to support Michael Brown after he tried but failed to take Officer Darrin Wilson's service weapon.

With a VERY few exceptions fuck the CTU membership Fuck that commie racist bitch president of theirs, Karen Lewis.

The ONLY thing I like about her and her union is that Rahm hates her and hates them

9/03/2017 10:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey guys and girls. Don't turn this into a battle between the police and teachers. This was mandated by the courts. The teachers didn't choose this curriculum, it was forced on them.

9/03/2017 11:48:00 AM

Get your facts straight, this WAS NOT mandated by any court. This was the idea of the chicago city council when they came up with the 5.5
million dollar reparation give away.

9/03/2017 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this going to be taught at Oriole Park?

9/03/2017 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

knew JON BURGE from the old area 2 on Cottage, he was a mans man and was sacrificed on the alter of political expidency, you yuong guys,don't listen to the bullshit that the academy tells you about this man,its pumped up shit that the mayor tells them to do by his pc liberal agenda friends.

9/03/2017 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All my previous interactions with CPS teachers and their higher up has been hostile. Trying to do good for them gets you total shit. As a city wide dick dealing with teacher' on occasions of all races, the white females are the most militant working ghetto schools. Guess what ! Most are Northwest side residents. Tried to help their kid, and they let their kid take a slam cause they hate the police.
You guys and gals watch you self dealing with any CPS employee', they ill jam you ass up. They real think that they are getting through to kids that have zero manner', etc.
Glad my kids never seen the inside of Stain' school of revolutions, aka CPS !

9/03/2017 11:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the goofs who say don't turn this into a battle between police and teachers. The teachers union sent several buses with teachers to protest against Darin Wilson in Ferguson so fuck them. They drew it and they are not your friends.Same with the firemen. Stay the fuck away from both.

9/04/2017 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the FOP can't get this letter out in the classrooms - make sure cops get copies of it, and everytime a car passes a school - stick a copy of it on a lamp post, on the front door of the school, etc.

When a cop has to go into a school, leave a few copies behind. Stuff a few through vents of lockers.

None of these tactics would be beneath the people who designed this course were the tables turned, so they ought not to feel bad if the same were done to them.

Get your message out. Fight this bullshit with the truth.

9/04/2017 03:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marty You are a genius, do not let the business as usual FOL silence you. the rats in the hall and CPS will shit bricks when you use your knowledge of all the graft etc being brought up front. Your an honest man. Organize, you can bring change for the better. Start a movement, people will follow and see how we all been screwed for tens of years of misconduct. DC is watching for tips and clues.

FOP just plays changing names on Washington Blvd,

9/04/2017 04:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A better question is why anyone would send their kids to CPS ?"

Because some people have no other choice

9/04/2017 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/03/2017 09:57:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what that black-box would be worth and how much the New York Times would pay for it.

9/03/2017 09:54:00 AM

Contact the lawyer who invented and made it. He probably could get another one, if the fee is right$$$$$$$$

9/04/2017 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's part of the ANTIFA Manifesto. Destroy law enforcement.

You are either with them or you are a Fascist.

There is a copy of the ANTIFA Manual floating around, warning do no let this fall into the hands of law enforcement. This should be published by L.E., I have emailed copies around including to SCC.

9/04/2017 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have gone from the OFFICER FRIENDLY to this crap.

9/04/2017 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That thing is 112 pages long.My Us History textbook only had 400 pages.Who is shitting who?

9/04/2017 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about you teach the kids to read and wright and add and subtract? You can't teach the basics but you can teach lies. The Chicago teachers union is full of communist America haters. They are allowed to teach anything that will tear down America. Fuck Karen Lewis and any teacher that supports her.

9/04/2017 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't they have a class about how rahm hid the video for laquan incident for over a year. Just so he could get re-elected. The exempts who viewed that video and made it a justifiable shooting. Oh yeah I forgot they all walked away with their pensions.

9/04/2017 07:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe an ecomomics class could teach children why so many alderman/city council members have been indicted

9/04/2017 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real problem in Chicago The connection between politicians and gangs

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/173804/chicago-politicians-solicit-support-gangs-daniel-greenfield

9/04/2017 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prieb your awesome thanks for putting that out there.

9/04/2017 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP needs to sue and stop this anti Police propaganda!!!!!!!! Simple

9/04/2017 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This agenda is being pushed by Karen Lewis and her communist union. I don't care if your wife, sister or mother is a teacher and if your stupid enough to want to save a couple of bucks and send your kids to public grammar school. 'm coming out against this union. They even support BLM and other anti police groups. Screw them.

9/04/2017 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best money I ever spent was sending my children to catholic schools. I still feel that those of us who never used CPS (myself and siblings included) should get a tax break. I have friends who never had kids, they should get a break too.

9/04/2017 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Earlier I posted that the Burge curriculum was mandated and not chosen by the teachers. Someone asked for proof. Google: CPS to teach 8th, 10th graders about Jon Burge legacy as part of reparations. You can read the August 28th Tribune article for yourselves.

9/04/2017 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't they teach that our government has allowed drugs to cross our borders for years, so that the poor have some sort of income coming in, there are no jobs. How about an average of 200 black on black killings the last 30 years that the government hasn't stopped. How about black politicians and teachers doing nothing to help the plight of the black community etc....

9/04/2017 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is this going to be taught at Oriole Park?

If Oriole Park is a CPS, why wouldn't it be taught. This isn't only being taught at selective scool

9/04/2017 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We deserve all this negative propaganda, because FOP sleeps with the city, where they get their salaries. Hey FOP, how about a positive informational protest at the teachers union hall? And have signage about the positive things Police have done over the decades!!! It will get plenty of press coverage. Do something FOP!!!! Sue to stop project.

9/04/2017 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are obviously failing to see that your disdain for teachers falls right into the road map of Rahm being elected again. The majority of the teachers are married to cops, firefighters and other city workers. They would be hellbent to stand against anything that each and every one of you do. Sadly, all of the articles that Rahm has planted has pitted you against them, them against you.

Don't believe the hype. It is only done so that Rahm can splinter the vote and cake-walk his way into another election.

You sound like an idiot to blame this on Rahm. It falls on the CPU union
To make a statement that half of the teachers are married to police, fire and city is ridiculous And if there were, and didn't agree with Lewis, how would you explain Lewis and her Core caucus winning the CPS union election by 80%. Yea 80%
Not defending Rahm but during their protests he didn't say "fuck the police" and he didn't force them on the buses to Furgeson

9/04/2017 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are obviously failing to see that your disdain for teachers falls right into the road map of Rahm being elected again. The majority of the teachers are married to cops, firefighters and other city workers. They would be hellbent to stand against anything that each and every one of you do. Sadly, all of the articles that Rahm has planted has pitted you against them, them against you.

Don't believe the hype. It is only done so that Rahm can splinter the vote and cake-walk his way into another election.

They don't need Rahm to exploit the union. It's all there and how is exploiting the sustain for teachers going to get him elected

9/04/2017 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happened to flip to Chicago Tonight on channel 11. Horrible mistake. Standard liberals fixing the worlds problems. But they agreed that teaching about Burge was the same as teaching about the holocaust. Shit, who cares what they're teaching in the schools kids become "indoctrinated" just by watching tv.

9/04/2017 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BLM and their ilk never let facts get in the way of their agenda.
CPS will teach unproven facts as if they're gospel.
Absolutely sickening.

9/04/2017 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need more of these types of actions from FOP.
I assure you the only sound that would've been coming from Deano over this would've been snoring.

Mr Graham and staff I hope you keep up the good work and go on the offensive whenever possible.
Rahm, the lapdog media, BLM groups etc. are all dead against us.
We need a strong, motivated FOP to actively defend us.

9/04/2017 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets worry about pension benefits and retirees health care

9/04/2017 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://www.infowars.com/public-school-teachers-behind-violent-antifa-group/

9/04/2017 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

time to start turning in teachers that live in suburbia
oak lawn , evergreen park , hazel crest , country club hills

9/04/2017 01:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the goofs who say don't turn this into a battle between police and teachers. The teachers union sent several buses with teachers to protest against Darin Wilson in Ferguson so fuck them. They drew it and they are not your friends.Same with the firemen. Stay the fuck away from both.

9/04/2017 12:04:00 AM

I agree cps teachers are part of the problem! Did they protest this lying lesson? Of course not, so done with dealing with teachers, now anytime the pos kid is "causing trouble" inside cps the teacher will be named and sign a complaint, if a juvenile the teacher can take their ass to the station and meet with the detective, no more taking any chances this was the last straw! The last lie! the cps zoo can do what it wants!!

9/04/2017 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
9/03/2017 09:57:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what that black-box would be worth and how much the New York Times would pay for it.

9/03/2017 09:54:00 AM

Contact the lawyer who invented and made it. He probably could get another one, if the fee is right$$$$$$$$

9/04/2017 06:36:00 AM

A "Black Box" has been displayed by the Innocence Project or some other anti-police do-gooders.

As I recall it was an World War II army surplus crank telephone like we all have seen in old movies.

9/04/2017 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/04/2017 10:51:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Earlier I posted that the Burge curriculum was mandated and not chosen by the teachers. Someone asked for proof. Google: CPS to teach 8th, 10th graders about Jon Burge legacy as part of reparations. You can read the August 28th Tribune article for yourselves.

9/04/2017 11:04:00 AM
Yep.
Rahm and the other pansies from the city agreed to this as part of "reperations".
Thanks Rahm..... you're a fucking slithering asshole.

9/04/2017 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/04/2017 11:13:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is this going to be taught at Oriole Park?

If Oriole Park is a CPS, why wouldn't it be taught. This isn't only being taught at selective scool

9/04/2017 11:20:00 AM

Because Oriole Park is on the NorthWest side you think you should be exempt?
I agree the curriculum is wrong but Rahm agreed to this and now CPS will be teaching this ridiculous curriculum.
It has nothing to do with your South Side /North Side superiority complex.

9/04/2017 05:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Marty You are a genius, do not let the business as usual FOL silence you. the rats in the hall and CPS will shit bricks when you use your knowledge of all the graft etc being brought up front. Your an honest man. Organize, you can bring change for the better. Start a movement, people will follow and see how we all been screwed for tens of years of misconduct. DC is watching for tips and clues.

FOP just plays changing names on Washington Blvd,

9/04/2017 04:01:00 AM

DC is watching nothing about our useless FLOP. This writer should begin writing about pertinent issues like the pension, health insurance and our expired contract. Enough.

9/04/2017 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
We need more of these types of actions from FOP.
I assure you the only sound that would've been coming from Deano over this would've been snoring.

Mr Graham and staff I hope you keep up the good work and go on the offensive whenever possible.
Rahm, the lapdog media, BLM groups etc. are all dead against us.
We need a strong, motivated FOP to actively defend us.

9/04/2017 01:13:00 PM

I'm not sure what good work has been done. Enlighten us..........

9/04/2017 06:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys? I guess you aren't on the job. We just can't hire somebody we can't even get a "serious" i.e. Mean and nasty president. Say this..then the same ol stuff. Don't even say Teamsters.

9/04/2017 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Though it out when I moved.

9/04/2017 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think uncle Joe Stalin said "give me your children for twenty years and I'll take your country without firing a shot". I think we're in trouble. To all the cps students and teachers uncle Joe was a very very bad man.

9/04/2017 09:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am sure they will infer that it was all racially motivated. Oh yes white Det's solving black on black crime is racially motivated. The innocence project has never presented anything to show another offender committed the crimes. A real racist wouldn't bother arresting anyone.

9/05/2017 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Though it out when I moved.

9/04/2017 09:30:00 PM

"Thow it out" is gooder English.

9/05/2017 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5150 is a fantastic ingenious studio album by Van Halen

9/05/2017 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets worry about pension benefits and retirees health care

9/04/2017 01:22:00 PM

True, true, true! We should all, working and retired alike, be concerned about our pension fund and affordable healthcare because we know 9.5 will try sticking it to us at every turn.

9/05/2017 07:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No. I thought it out and threw it out when I moved. Their. No no no there!

9/05/2017 10:32:00 PM  

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