Friday, September 22, 2017

FOP Files Against COPA

And let the fireworks begin (click for a larger READABLE version):


Lest anyone miss the point, the entire new Use of Force policy, from construction to disciplinary enforcement, was put together without any input from the FOP and almost no input from the rank-and-file. Lawyers and bean counters failed to survey other Departments, and dismissed/disregarded the input from those who actually did seek out "best practices" to find what actually worked in real life.
  • Your fate is not your own;
  • Nothing is ever closed any more - ever - even years later;
  • You are tied to the political winds - extra heat = extra pain for you
  • Even if you're legally sound, you will be hammered administratively
Don't doubt it.

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99 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bunko in COPA, Chicago style

9/22/2017 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be strong. Some how be strong.

9/22/2017 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good finally a FOP president with cojones like our POTUS!!!

9/22/2017 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like a good time to take fetal to a whole new level.

9/22/2017 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Although highly disagreeable in regards to the new GO's—Let GOD be your guide and your judge for the prophet gave his own sons in the name of God. With this wording the media far ???side will burn with guilt. We are here to protect all including the godless. Let your conscience and faith be your guide and fuck all the piece of shit politicians with greed in their hearts!

9/22/2017 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you retire and leave the state, would that make it less likely they will come after you, or just complicate your defense?

9/22/2017 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

now go out and bring "me" some ISR's - OMG LOL

9/22/2017 05:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bout time!!!!

9/22/2017 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Good finally a FOP president with cojones like our POTUS!!!

9/22/2017 12:29:00 AM

___

You do realize that there is no legitimate fight here, right?

The employer is allowed to enforce the law and to make the guidelines very clear to the employees.

This is a dog and pony show to win over dumb people like you.

9/22/2017 05:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe people are still signing up for this job. I mean they've already cut your pension benefits and now this? I just don't get why anyone would take this job. My ex-wife and I coppers. My stepdaughter inquired about the job and we both put the brakes on that.

9/22/2017 05:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc you must live with a teacher or have some teacher friends at your house often, "best practices", no cop uses that term

9/22/2017 06:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

02:31am....... It will increase your costs, thus temporarily negating any savings gained by leaving. Airline tix,lawyers, and movers are all expensive. I would stay put until your nonsense is resolved.

9/22/2017 06:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let the masses commit mayhem upon themselves. Then record the names of the fallen for all to see.

9/22/2017 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a non-starter. FOP, and particularly Prieb, is jerking itself off.

9/22/2017 06:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just as I predicted Rahm would win his 'sanctuary city' case against the DOJ, I predict that the FOP will fail in their efforts to combat the new Use of Force training.

9/22/2017 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must say one thing.

I am damp glad to see Martin leading in the last few FOP matters.

Not like past members sitting and doing nothing.

By the way where is FOP president in this? His name is missing?

This was first news release that makes sense thanks Martin

9/22/2017 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to get on the tact team.

9/22/2017 06:53:00 AM  
Blogger Joker said...

If you retire and leave the state, would that make it less likely they will come after you, or just complicate your defense?

You should know the answer to your own question.

If you were dead and buried, they would dig you up, charge you administratively and then go after your family to recover any monies they believed "they" are entitled to.

9/22/2017 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Blacks holding Obama accountable

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/glanton/ct-obama-community-dahleen-glanton-met-20170921-column.html

9/22/2017 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A little birdy saw S. Fairley flipping out recently, on a CPD Lt. who kept his cool during her entire meltdown. Her True colors were already on display. Its no wonder her old man dumped her psycho-ass. I actually feel bad for her COPA co workers. Ahhh, then again.......not so much.

9/22/2017 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

stay fetal!

9/22/2017 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Five bottles of Powerade Zero: 89 cents each — plus 32 cents per bottle Cook County sweetened beverage tax. Zero calories, zero sugar.

Total shelf price: $4.45.

Total Cook County beverage tax, allegedly collected to fight obesity, diabetes and heart disease: $1.60.

Chicago beverage tax (3 percent): 13 cents.

At checkout, we tossed an impulse buy into the cart.

One Reese's Peanut Butter Cup: 200 calories, 12 grams of fat, 19 grams of sugar, 150 mg of sodium.

Shelf price: $1

Nanny taxes: Zero.

Merchandise total: $5.45

Sales tax (10.25 percent): 56 cents

Total taxes: $2.29, or 42 percent

Yes, 42 percent. (If you remember your algebra, you know the percentage would be even higher if not for that lightly taxed Reese’s cup.)

Our $5.45 purchase ends up costing $7.74.

So tell us again, Cook County commissioners, that the beverage tax will make residents healthier. Tell us how adding more than a third to the price of a sugar-free sports drink protects our children. Tell us why that candy bar is OK.

Or tell us the truth, which is that you didn’t set out to reduce obesity, diabetes and heart disease — you set out to make $200 million a year without raising property taxes. That health shtick is a pretense plainly contradicted by that untaxed Reese’s sugar-and-fat bomb. Do you think taxpayers are stupid?

Think again.

Think long and hard.

Next month, you’ll have a chance to repeal this disingenuous ordinance. You can replace it with a fair and honest tax, if you can make the case for one, or you can sharpen your pencils and cut expenses. What you can’t do is leave the beverage tax in place and hope your constituents will forget about it. It’s right there on the receipt, and too big to miss.

This tax is a whopper — in more ways than one.

Taxpayers, check your receipts.

Then check this list of commissioners who voted “yes” for this tax in November. If you’d like to offer guidance, give them a call:

Luis Arroyo Jr., D-Chicago, 312-603-8530.

Jerry "Iceman" Butler, D-Chicago, 312-603-6391.

John Daley, D-Chicago, 312-603-4400.

Jesus “Chuy” Garcia, D-Chicago,

312-603-5443.

Edward Moody, D-Chicago Ridge, 312-603-4216.

Stanley Moore, D-Chicago, 312-603-2065.

Deborah Sims, D-Chicago, 312-603-6381.

Larry Suffredin, D-Evanston, 312-603-6383.

The late commissioner Robert Steele, D-Chicago, was in the hospital during the vote, forcing board President Toni Preckwinkle — 312-603-6400 — to break an 8-8 tie with a “yes” vote. Steele was replaced by Dennis Deer, D-Chicago, 312-603-3019.

Pick up the phone. And share your soda tax totals on Twitter: #TweetYourReceipt to @Trib_ed_board.

Join the discussion on Twitter @Trib_Ed_Board and on Facebook.
Copyright © 2017, Chicago Tribune

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9/22/2017 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you get out of the car and put hands on these people you're completely insane. Who cares if they kill each other. Unless it happens to you, your partner or your family let it go. This is what they wanted now they can have it. 3 more years of doing nothing and I am gone.

9/22/2017 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If you retire and leave the state, would that make it less likely they will come after you, or just complicate your defense?

9/22/2017 02:31:00 AM

You can run but you cannot hide, COPA will spare no taxpayer's expense to extradite you back so seek justice for the oppressed...

9/22/2017 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a retiree who woke up this morning and found myself with the same status as a Confederate monument. To all those that remain, get out now! You can find other work to do and you will live without the apprehension of wondering when they will come for you.

9/22/2017 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Although highly disagreeable in regards to the new GO's—Let GOD be your guide and your judge for the prophet gave his own sons in the name of God. With this wording the media far ???side will burn with guilt. We are here to protect all including the godless. Let your conscience and faith be your guide and fuck all the piece of shit politicians with greed in their hearts!

9/22/2017 01:37:00 AM

All good and well, but will God pay my mortgage when i get put in no pay status for some B.S i couldn't avoid !

9/22/2017 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This joke of a Dept and the politians who are trying to run it, just ISN'T funny anymore...

9/22/2017 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Copa..... copa cabana!!!!!!

9/22/2017 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Valiant Knight said...

Seems to be a little too late. This was coming for a long time and now that most of the training has been done, with no one being adversely affected, it doesn't seem like it'll be stopped. I applaud Kevin for trying, but any judge in this state beholden to the likes of Rham will not reverse the idiotic course we are on.

9/22/2017 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we fight back we might just win. Rham is on the ropes. You can see it on his face at every appearance. Keep the pressure on push for more not less and never give in.

9/22/2017 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm a cabana (He formed the Copa)" (To the tune of Copa cabanna)

His name was Rahm, he was the mayor
With 50 thieves in his lair and taxes up to there
he would legislate and do the TIF funds
And while he tried to be a star
Madigan always tended bar
Across the crowded city, they stole without pity
They always asked for more!!

[Chorus:]
He formed the copa, To screw the Coppers
The crookedest spot of all , next to city hall
Where Lying with a passion is always the fashion
At the copa.... Rahm lost his police

His name was Van Dyke
He wore a Star
He responded to a call, he saw Laqan dancing there
And when he saw the knife, he yelled drop it or your life.
But Van Dyke went a bit to far
He should have stayed in the car
And then the bullets flew and Laqan was smashed in two
There was Cop and 16 gun shots
Rahm Knew who shot who
But he lied to you

[Chorus:]
He formed the copa, To screw the Coppers
The crookedest spot of all , next to city hall
Where Lying with a passion is always the fashion
At the copa.... Rahm lost his police

His name is Rahm, he was a mayor
But that was many years ago, when he used to have a show
Now it's a Black lives matter, but not for rahm
Still in suit he used to wear
The thieves have fled his lair
he sits there so refined, and drinks himself half-blind
he lost his teachers and he lost his cops
Now he's lost his mind
At the copa... don't lose your job
Don't vote for Rahm

9/22/2017 09:03:00 AM  
Blogger Baby"G" said...

It appears that FOP finally has realized the term: "Competent Counsel", is more than just words strung together. At this point, as I have stated before, Rahm's hatred of the Chicago Police Department knows no bounds.He has thrown CPD to its enemies. CPD destroyed Rahm's dream of being President. And the Van Dyke trial will be the last nail in Rahm's Political Coffin, whatever the outcome. The destruction of the morale of the Chicago Police Department will have an impact on everyone who resides in this City's quality of life. And the influx of new officers is not going to change that direction. Because millennial cops have far greater expectations than their predecessors, and with the exception of those with prior military or college sport experience; are far less disciplined. The Legacy of Rahm will be ugly, but it won't matter to him, because he and his family will not be living here. Be Careful, and think of YOURSELVES First! If they really need help, have them call the ACLU. Baby "G"

9/22/2017 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the deal:
Rahm gets to do whatever he wants.
He doesn't play by the rules of silly Contractual Agreements.
Political pawns are expendable.

There will be no injunction, temporary delay or freeze until an appointed judge rules on the validity of the new disciplinary rules.
It will stand and remain in effect right up to the decision, weeks-months years, whatever.
This is a Police Reform effort and City Democrats across the board are standing by their intentions and it INCLUDES Jugghead Special Ed.

If some pro-active hard-charger wants to "test" the Acting Stupidly™ Rule, expect to be COPA'ed first and foremost.
There will be no appeal process to the COPA findings.
FOP can sue all they want, trying to get a win will be next to impossible.
Never trust a Democrat to lean in our favor.

So bottom line:
Is that ghetto CB Number going to be worth it?

9/22/2017 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Minimize your impact on the job and enjoy going home without the stress of litigation hanging over your head and disrupting your personal life. you'll still get paid for writing a report afterall the dogass cops have gotten away with it for years. United we stand divided we go to jail and that is the objective of this city hall, jail a Cop and k fuxx is their to insure it.

9/22/2017 09:13:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Go get 'em FOP. Your job is not just about the golf outing.

9/22/2017 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liberal democrats are famous for wanting to swap horses in the middle of the creek.
Something agreeable yesterday is outrageous today.
This is not the way to run anything, a city, county, state or a country.

J.J.

9/22/2017 09:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, probably won't go anywhere. FOP will have to show a pattern of discriminatory actions by COPA down the line for it to get anywhere. FOP has a legal defense fund. Time to start suing COPA investigators like P.O.'s get sued. Once the director and a few of the "investigators" get sued a bunch of times, it may work.

9/22/2017 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Today is Friday...

BOLO for a City Hall weekend anti-Police doc-dump
into the anxiously awaiting mouths of local media
which will then squat and blow it all over everything
in order to foster the narrative of The Police being
out of control and in need of being reformed into a
corner.

It's a good day for FOP to punch back
against Rahm al-Ghoul and his wholly
owned, riotously rotting to a skeleton
like something in a ghetto catch basin
("Been stankin' for a few months, ossifer!")
media propaganda apparatus.

What's really funny is when the local newsies
come here to mine the blog and hit back against
the counter narration posted here.

To note; there's a nasty undertone in the media
of, "Well if you guys were more humble and more
public servant-like and stopped being so mean
and snarly on that blog and stopped trying to
fight US back, we might be more supportive of you."

Heh...
They wouldn't infer such nonsense to Dude Inc...

Dude does shit like crash flaming cars through
the front doors of domiciles and take up shooting
positions at the back door to deal with the survivors
fleeing the flames in the front.

Chicago newsies know which side of their bread is buttered.

Policemen more or less have rules of conduct,
conditions of employment and an intact moral compass
that keeps them from settling scores like Dude Inc. does.

So you can forget any notion of local media running
at Dude Inc. as hard as they've been running at The Police.

But...

If The Police are the problem and they're "fixed" and/or
"Reformed," then we'll see the entirety of the narrative
apparatus slam on the brakes and perform a full-power
reverse to reform Dude Inc. into a corner just like
The Police.

Right?

>Crickets<

Protect Yourselves Against THEM.
First and Always...

Police Like You Have No Friends.

9/22/2017 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's just a nice letter with no teeth. Stop all non call related activity. Until further notice.

9/22/2017 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since when did an agency become an advertisement business that handles police investigations. I see Copa being advertize as if they were in the business of selling cable tv...ads all over bus stops wtf...is there no morals, respect and integrity for anything left...unbeleivable!!!

9/22/2017 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you retire and leave the state, would that make it less likely they will come after you, or just complicate your defense?

9/22/2017 02:31:00 AM


Don't think they care where you live. Would probably be an advantage for them, you having to travel back and forth
Doesn't Burge reside in Florida

9/22/2017 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

" If you retire and leave the state, would that make it less likely they will come after you, or just complicate your defense?"

"Burge was fired in 1993 by the police department. But it wasn't until 13 years later that special Cook County prosecutors found evidence of widespread abuse by Burge and detectives under his command .."

9/22/2017 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ILRB ILRB ILRB ILRB ILRB ILRB ILRB ILRB ILRB

That is the noise made when you wiggle your tongue on your upper lip and make noise - like when you are making noises and faces at a young baby trying to get that first laugh.

ILRB? Yeah, laughable, for sure.

This is just a charade to make people think it is binding, like a psuedo court setting (that really isn't anything, much less a court of law).

Stop being so easily fooled, by these obvious cons.

9/22/2017 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Good job FOP!

Please keep at them.


9/22/2017 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Up Next?

This new policy is dropped, for the reasons SCC points to here, and one more special reason - it was done the WAY it was done (the way SCC points to) in order to see it removed, for those reasons, with media whores salivating and drooling all over the place with already written articles about its demise......wait for it, here it comes.....

CPD Officers reject being held accountable; New Use of Force Policy tossed out on Appeal by the P0leeeece.

This was set up TO fail, so that cops could be construed ("reported") as being opposed to oversight and accountability.

Dems can then run their 2018 campaigns on "we tried" (like they always do with failed gun legislation) and pose it to voters as if their total lock on legislative action needs to be even more of a lock and THEN they will be able to reign in those out of control cops killing black men every night in Chicago! Or something.

See the idiocy yet? Meanwhile, the lawyers soak up that money - from all sides - and then a WHOLE lot of money is laundered for the upcoming campaigns for next year.

9/22/2017 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Before the Accidental Supt. had his transplant, he was interviewed on a news program and he went to great lengths to claim how much the rank and file contributed to this policy. More lies from the gold badge club. The Captains list is yet another example how this administration has no intention of real reform except to try and appease Rahmocide with his goal to bust the police union. If that entails false charges against officers previously cleared in an OIS or involved in a future OIS - COPA is ready to be Rahm's henchman/woman.

FOP's next step should be to assemble a team of competent attorneys to assist the members after an OIS. Don't utter a word - even to inquisitive co workers - except that you are awaiting your lawyer's arrival. Let the only squeals emanate from Fairley as Rahm fires her for not attaining her 8-10% sustained rate.

Retired .38 spl +P

9/22/2017 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) even this guy is turning down shitter bowl show:

Jay-Z reportedly turns down offer to perform at Super Bowl LII halftime show

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-jay-z-super-bowl-20170922-story.html

Hmm why:There has been speculation that Jay-Z said no to the Super Bowl offer as way to show support for former San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who has yet to land a job in the NFL after opting out of his contract with the 49ers in May. Some people think Kaepernick has been blackballed from the league because he refused to stand for the national anthem last season as a way to protest social injustice.

Jay-Z dedicated his song “The Story of O.J.” to Kaepernick during a performance earlier this month.

Mr "take a knee" is done, stadiums are 1/2 full this anti law and order nonsense will cost them serious cash! Sorry totally done with football it is done the real American people are tired of it don't watch it don't miss it! God bless the police!

9/22/2017 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/22/2017 02:31:00 AM
If you retire and they do charge you with something related to your employment, you could lose your pension. I been retired quite a few years and reading what has been happening have to say if you got the time and age, retire. I also left the state of high taxes and suggest you do too.

9/22/2017 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is amazing how fucked up this once great city has become.

Call the next case. Not a cop.

9/22/2017 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

time for fop , pbpa to start a law suit against cpd for retaining disciplinary records longer than allowed by contract
unions better get behind a mayoral and alderman candidates this election
where is the push , petitions to reduce number of alderman
get it on ballot and it will pass

9/22/2017 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We went several years without a contract in the 90's Vilified about everything you did or didn't do. It took Sept 11 For anyone to even think about lifting a finger to active! never mind pro active. Newbies on the job either went along with the program or were flushed down the administrative toilet when things went bad. you just waved bye, bye as they left voluntarily or not. And we didn't have nothing as bad as Chicago has it today, If you! officer don't leave and choose to perform any activity under these conditions you are simply Demented.
That being said, God Bless you all.
Your going to need it!

9/22/2017 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That no confidence vote not worth the time it took to present it. Its about time some people shook that place up bring in some new blood and tell the hangers on from tne inception of the union its time to get out. Dean and his kid and the vehicle they gave him can drive away

Oh speaking of that car, good old Dean decided to trade it in on a Mercedes. You know that piece of s*** Chrysler that was only worth $9,000 and needed 5000 worth of work? Yeah apparently the dealership was glad to take it on a trade.

9/22/2017 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you retire and leave the state, would that make it less likely they will come after you, or just complicate your defense?

9/22/2017 02:31:00 AM

Good luck finding us!! Plus, we are sighted in for the one mile mark when you top the hill........

9/22/2017 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Today I went to a probable cause hearing in felony court. Two cases for afternoon session. I guess the city is getting what they want. Hopefully some COPA investigators will soon be victims just getting reports.

9/22/2017 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hair gel arrow head says," who cares. I don't do anything and I can't get in trouble. My barber has my back"!

9/22/2017 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even those who try not to do police work will get caught up in the meat grinder. Obama's War on the Police continues.

9/22/2017 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Good finally a FOP president with cojones like our POTUS!!!

9/22/2017 12:29:00 AM

The above post has to be from either Graham or Preib. Neither has cojones. They are now called bb balls. Put out press releases to bs the troops but cave to the city. This all window dressing. FOP has already caved to the mayor in Springfield.

The union is in complete disarray. The general mtg this week a vote of no confidence was against Preib and 1st vice president Murray was held and passed. Last week the FOP board refused to to accept Murray's monthly report!

How soon before Murray flips out and punches someone?

You do know that a lawyer funded Murray's campaign and know Murray a Preib want to fire the current lawyers and hire their own? Will they share the kickback with the rest of the field reps?

You do know that Graham and the field reps are all stealing 21,600 each?

9/22/2017 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Stay Out Of Dodge said...

".............Anonymous said...
If you retire and leave the state, would that make it less likely they will come after you, or just complicate your defense ? "...............


Well - for starters --- unless you're in Fed Ct, it makes it pretty damned hard to subpoena your butt. Just don't visit the relatives in Crook Co.

9/22/2017 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like sharon has some things to consider! Sharon your political clout cannot help stupidity is stupidity! How can you say we will "squeal" that sharon is so ignorant and pathetic! How about you apologize? Maybe we need to call your ex-husband John Rogers and find out what happened with you? The days of people like you getting away with so much are over! Coppers today are a lot more aware of bullshit and lies and sharon the pandoras box will be opened promise you that!

So you know Sharon soon the chant will be by us "whose city our city"

Like the St. Louis police finally got tired of all the lies and stood up:
St. Louis Police Chant “Whose Streets? Our Streets!” as Protests Against Stockley Verdict Continue

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/18/st_louis_police_chant_whose_streets_our_streets.html

The time is coming, I know we need federal help they are coming in a big way soon be ready, President Trump is pro-police sharon and the rest "what you going to do when they come for you?"

9/22/2017 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wish we had FOP as a union in the jail. Seems like FOP actually does some work.

9/22/2017 03:04:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

Anonymous said...

Scc you must live with a teacher or have some teacher friends at your house often, "best practices", no cop uses that term

=========

Or we've been paying attention to the DOJ politics for the past year-plus. We aren't all as ignorant as you

9/22/2017 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shot only when fired upon. UN policy

9/22/2017 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger SCC said...

Anonymous said...


Scc you must live with a teacher or have some teacher friends at your house often, "best practices", no cop uses that term

09/22/2017 06:13:00 AM

=========

Or we've been paying attention to the DOJ politics for the past year-plus. We aren't all as ignorant as you

9/22/2017 04:05:00 PM

________________________________________________


Yay!
...Another "We don't want Cops who are THAT smart"
imbecile heard from.

Perhaps it's best that you practice not wedging your hat
so firmly into your ass while it's on your head?

Either that or you just somehow managed to
stumble upon this blog.

Sit back.
Pay attention.

You might accidentally learn something worthwhile.

Thank You to SCC for rebutting and providing the ONLY forum
by which such "Stinkin' Thinkin'" can be corrected.

9/22/2017 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT cancelled citywide without prior permission from the area deputy except for one special house mouse in the 006
District. How does this happen why doesnt everybody in DOG 64 file a grevance? This is why this
Dept is so screwed up. This person who has been taken care of since day one. Probably blowing the day Lt. To get this OT that everyone wants but cant get. When is the FOP going to do something my guess never. This is the second week lets see how much longer this person will continue to get to work their RDO

9/22/2017 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who says investigative reporting is dead in Chicago? The following footage was found on a laptop that once belonged to Geraldo Rivera. Could this be a glimpse of a COPA dress rehearsal? We report, you decide . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdL9wQdWZ9g&feature=youtube_gdata_player

9/22/2017 05:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you! marine unit for the hospitality today. 🐾

9/22/2017 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Scc you must live with a teacher or have some teacher friends at your house often, "best practices", no cop uses that term

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you have not been paying attention for the past many years. i retired 15 years ago and " best practices" was a term used at R&D back then regarding policies, testing etc. It has been around a long time.The city follows " best practices" only when it is to their advantage.

9/22/2017 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Even those who try not to do police work will get caught up in the meat grinder. Obama's War on the Police continues.

9/22/2017 02:25:00 PM

my conversation today with a person who was recently associated with IPRA and quit a week ago, is that COPA will be all about supervisor accountability. If you are a supervisor and show up on a scene and fail to immediately take action to the satisfaction of COPA they will hang you out to dry. The operative word is " to the satisfaction of COPA". Not what you think is the right thing to do, but what they think is the right thing to do.

9/22/2017 06:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...
Good finally a FOP president with cojones like our POTUS!!!

9/22/2017 12:29:00 AM

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You do realize that there is no legitimate fight here, right?

The employer is allowed to enforce the law and to make the guidelines very clear to the employees.

This is a dog and pony show to win over dumb people like you.

9/22/2017 05:43:00 AM
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Eat a bag of Roberts... I'm glad the FOP is making some noise, I hope residency is next up. Yes I hope you lose a ton of money on your house as well! Deuces girl!

9/22/2017 06:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe it's time to walk the line.

9/22/2017 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

125 Seattle Police officers filed a nearly identical lawsuit against their department-and subsequently lost it today. This lawsuit is a waste of time and money for the lodge. The city does not have to negotiate changes in operational orders with labor unions.

9/22/2017 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Good finally a FOP president with cojones like our POTUS!!!

9/22/2017 12:29:00 AM

The above post has to be from either Graham or Preib. Neither has cojones. They are now called bb balls. Put out press releases to bs the troops but cave to the city. This all window dressing. FOP has already caved to the mayor in Springfield.

The union is in complete disarray. The general mtg this week a vote of no confidence was against Preib and 1st vice president Murray was held and passed. Last week the FOP board refused to to accept Murray's monthly report!

How soon before Murray flips out and punches someone?

You do know that a lawyer funded Murray's campaign and know Murray a Preib want to fire the current lawyers and hire their own? Will they share the kickback with the rest of the field reps?

You do know that Graham and the field reps are all stealing 21,600 each?

9/22/2017 02:36:00 PM

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Here is someone with some brains. Bingo! A dog and pony show to swindle the dummies.... Kickbacks? Could be. But lawyers will gladly take the case to bill the union handsomely.

9/22/2017 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was the original Sugar Smacks - the cereal. There was Sugar Ray Robinson - the boxer. There was Sugar Babies - the candy. There was Sugar Ray Leonard - another boxer. There was Sugar Babies - the Broadway Musical. Now there is Chuy - Sugar Tax - Garcia - the answer to all of Chicago's problems.

9/22/2017 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT. Get the CTA out of the Credit Union

http://chn.ge/2xuWhCM

9/22/2017 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone think Graham does anything besides look confused on camera and sign his name to shit Prieb authors. This FOP isn't playing smart in my opinion Graham is to emotionally attached to a personal vendetta with rahm. This is a game rahm can play and I'm worried rahm has something up his sleeve. Could be as simple as tieing the union up in litigation for years costing hundreds of thousands of dollars in lawyers fees for the lodge. Remember Rahm is an old school machine guy he knows how to play dirty. And for the record I was no fan of Disabiltiy Dean, Loudmouth Shields or Mark 'the shill' Donahue

9/22/2017 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bosses at summer mobile told the boys and gals not to worry about ISR's when they street stop people. If this is not a wake up call to all you young bucks I do not know how you can be helped. No boss will have your back. If you keep working after being told something completely against rules then you're on your own. Good luck.

9/22/2017 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) headline:Bolingbrook mayor's home vandalized; woman charged with hate crime

http://abc7chicago.com/bolingbrook-mayors-home-vandalized;-woman-charged-with-hate-crime/2443627/

Look at the picture they call this thing a woman? At least whatever it is got the politicians house not an innocent victim!

9/22/2017 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A day late and a dollar short, as usual. And why is Graham using Dean Angelo's lawyer? WTF, Kevin Graham. Roll with those clowns and you'll be one-term too. Just like tiny disability Dean.

9/22/2017 11:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I took the use of force class at wright tonight. I thought the po explaining deadly force gave a good un-biased explanation.

9/22/2017 11:15:00 PM  
Blogger FOP Genius said...

To the Anonymous imbecile who said...

You do realize that there is no legitimate fight here, right?

The employer is allowed to enforce the law and to make the guidelines very clear to the employees.

This is a dog and pony show to win over dumb people like you.

+++++++++++++++++

Where the hell did you get your facts? You must have been sleeping in labor law class or you’re not an attorney.

These orders equate to changes in working conditions. Working conditions cannot be unilaterally changed and/or implemented without negotiating the changes with the employee’s collective bargaining unit.

These orders have the potential to impact discipline and the disciplinary process that is protected by our contract.

Would you prefer the union pull an Angelo and sit idly by while the City steamrolls us?

Now go back to your apartment in your momma’s basement, have a hot cocoa, watch Golden Girls, and stop making comments if you don’t have even the slightest idea of what you are writing about.

9/23/2017 12:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

POTUS!!!

9/22/2017 12:29:00 AM

The above post has to be from either Graham or Preib. Neither has cojones. They are now called bb balls. Put out press releases to bs the troops but cave to the city. This all window dressing. FOP has already caved to the mayor in Springfield.

The union is in complete disarray. The general mtg this week a vote of no confidence was against Preib and 1st vice president Murray was held and passed. Last week the FOP board refused to to accept Murray's monthly report!

How soon before Murray flips out and punches someone?

You do know that a lawyer funded Murray's campaign and know Murray a Preib want to fire the current lawyers and hire their own? Will they share the kickback with the rest of the field reps?

You do know that Graham and the field reps are all stealing 21,600 each?
9/22/2017 02:36:00 PM

DEAN please stay off the blog. You are a has-been. You and your kid are done in this Union. Go get that Mercedes polished.

9/23/2017 02:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would anyone let alone a CPD. Lt. let S. Fairly "go off" on them? Get up and walk out. We don't work for them or her.

9/23/2017 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prieb is a one termer.
He and Murray's trick with Kathy Moore cost them dearly.
With that vote of no confidence in them, when are they gone?
And Marty if you are reading this, your writing is getting stale. You need to stop inserting into Everything those past Burge cases and innocence project cases. It is boring.

9/23/2017 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Almost any way you slice it the new Use of Force has much potential to “jackpot” you.
Don’t think for a second that it was unintentional.

9/23/2017 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous JUNIOR said...

Will all you guys please stop picking on my Dad? The poor man has a handicap and he had to raise me. That should be enough grief for anyone. And stop calling me Baby Dean or Junior! I’m all growed up dammit!

9/23/2017 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And people ask me why I would retire when I'm not nearly maxed out!!!

9/23/2017 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes dean stay the fuck off the blog. Three years ago u embraced murray and his votes now u bum rap him. Go home and get your shine box

9/23/2017 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's easy to get overwhelmed with negativity here in Chicago with the murder and mayhem and Lib Left Democrat, BlackliesMatter one party rule.

But there is lots of good news.

President Trump has replaced Obama.

Jeff Sessions has replaced Loretta Lynch and Eric "My People" Holder as Attorney General.

All the pro criminal, anti police, BlackLiesmatter policies demanded by Loretta Lynch and Eric Holder - that's out the window. For all I know Loretta Lynch is now a deranged homeless woman living under lower Wacker Drive.

For all the active Chicago policemen having to hear this left over Loretta Lynch BS - just treat it like the Kerner Commission Report in 1968 supporting Detroit, Newark Black riots as just protests over American institutional racism. A year later Otto Kerner was in prison for corruption and Richard Law and Order Nixon was elected President.

9/23/2017 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The bosses at summer mobile told the boys and gals not to worry about ISR's when they street stop people. If this is not a wake up call to all you young bucks I do not know how you can be helped. No boss will have your back. If you keep working after being told something completely against rules then you're on your own. Good luck.

9/22/2017 10:07:00 PM

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That is a great point, the bosses cannot override state law.

9/23/2017 02:45:00 PM  
Anonymous The streets are stained with blood said...

Its times like these I wish I worked at HQ.

9/23/2017 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

06:13 am - Hopefully, your remark was merely sarcasm and not serious. For several years, many loyal SCC readers have commented on the relevant and eloquent posts which emanate from a blog that contains "silliness and sarcasm." Some people have stated that the SCC authors are at least college graduates - if not a masters degree holder. An occasional tweak such as "asshat" was probably included to show that we are not reading some nerdy academician but a working copper pushing a blue & white. We all know that SCC's work is routinely plagiarized by our local "journalists." And more importantly, raises the blood pressure of our nefarious mayor, his fifty thieving AlderCreatures, and the dubious gold badge club. In summary, this blog will routinely question what is questionable. It will criticize when applicable. And it will do it with the usual aplomb without constantly relying on expletives.

Thank you SCC and the commentators who make this blog viable and readable.

Retired .38 spl +P

9/23/2017 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Idiots running this department! And they wonder why people like me that grew up wanting to be police HATE this job! If i wanted to be a f-ing marriage/family counslor or a physch doctor i would have gone back to school!!!!!!! WHAT THE HELL happened to this police dept? Nationally embarresing!

9/24/2017 02:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who made posts about Kathy Moore being fired ? Almost the entire Dean Angelo ticket . Dean ( lost ) , Ray Casiano (lost) Bella , Mcdonough (lost ) , Kilmer (lost), Ryan , Jaksavitch - Sgt at arms ( encouraging trouble), Dean jr. ( lost) , Lumpy Rutherford (lost ) ,
Les flig (lost ) , Al Francis (lost ) , Nick Duckhorn (lost ) , Ron Shogren ( handing out fliers in hall about attorneys ) , Harold Brown (same thing ), Mike Cosentino ( sorry election judge ) , and Paul Vitioli ( held Dean Angelo rally !.) Fraternalism and brotherhood ! Hey boys now that most of you LOST how bout helping the elected members who have a stake in this game out ! What a shit show ! What a display of here's our chance boys . Maybe if you rallied like that during your administration you may have got back in there. Don't worry about the next two and a half years worry about what's going in now !

9/24/2017 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I took the new Use of Force 4 hr. class.

For the life of me, I don't see it as any different than it used to be. Perhaps the instructors only taught basic deadly force scenarios and avoided all the changes? Ok, I do know of one change - supervisors must canvass now after a TRR is completed, is that new? I am pretty sure it is. Oh, and there is also something about tasing 3x only.

So the supervisor thing is really only a change to how use of force is investigated, but it doesn't change when we can use force.

Sorry, but I see this as a non change. Nothing has changed. Ya, they added terminology like "sanctity of life," but I am catholic, and life has always been sacred to me, in a sense. But either way, those would do not really change anything substantively.

Am I wrong here?

9/24/2017 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Graham is POTUS, then Dean is Hillary?

9/24/2017 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Idiots running this department! And they wonder why people like me that grew up wanting to be police HATE this job! If i wanted to be a f-ing marriage/family counslor or a physch doctor i would have gone back to school!!!!!!! WHAT THE HELL happened to this police dept? Nationally embarrassing!

So why did you become the police? To help people or to punch people?

9/24/2017 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, you’ve got it all wrong. If Graham is POTUS, Dean would be Monica.

9/25/2017 06:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Even if you're legally sound, you will be hammered administratively"


Ahhh yes...

The good old administrative jack-pot
that Policemen are going to be cooked in
because Department General Orders/Rules & Regs
have been pried from their footing in the law
to intentionally facilitate the administrative
peril that policemen now face.

Thanks Rahm, you little chickenshit.
Thanks big Empty Head Ed.
Thanks Kim "My Peoples an' Folkses Revenge" Foxx.
Thanks ACLU.
Thanks local media.
Thanks #blm.

9/25/2017 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

No, you’ve got it all wrong. If Graham is POTUS, Dean would be Monica.

9/25/2017 06:04:00 AM

NYAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
XD XD XD XD XD

9/25/2017 07:08:00 PM  

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