Saturday, October 28, 2017

Still a Secret

  • Will Chicagoans ever find out what then-Mayor Richard M. Daley knew about the Chicago Police investigation that enabled his nephew to escape criminal charges in a homicide case for a decade?

    The Illinois Appellate Court’s answer: No.

    A written statement that Daley gave to a grand jury regarding the investigation must remain under lock and key because grand-jury secrecy trumps the public’s right to know what Daley said, a new ruling from the court states.

    The statement Daley crafted four years ago came as he and other Daley family members were being interviewed by lawyers working under attorney Dan K. Webb, the court-appointed special prosecutor who ended up putting Daley nephew Richard J. “RJ” Vanecko in jail for throwing a punch that caused David Koschman’s death in 2004.
This will be like the JFK files - released long after anyone who might end up being even remotely responsible is dead, buried and forgotten. We will be leaving detailed instructions in our will for significant dates and locations of graves to piss on over the next century.

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46 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, You re saying the guy on the grassy knoll punched the kid?

10/28/2017 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley helped elect all the judges. If that were anyone else they would print what was said along with there name all known addresses and all their relations.

Continue as you were nothing to see here.

10/28/2017 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing to see here...... Keep the cameras focused on Trumps every word... Let’s continue letting this state go to complete shit.

10/28/2017 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope the drainage is good at the Daley Family plot.

It will be popular, but not as popular as Jane Fonda's and Jimmy Carter's.

10/28/2017 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The winners write the history books, that poor kid had no chance.
There are many people on this job who have sold their souls.

10/28/2017 01:14:00 AM  
Blogger Leonard Hamilton said...

Daley must have never used email or phone. Kwame Kilpatrick got 28 years federal time for far less than the Daley crime family did in one year. Look it up. I had to read the book Boss by Mike Royko in school. Daley followed that book like a damn blueprint. The main character in the movie Pursuit of Happyness himself said once Daley left office he was leaving Chicago. And sure enough, he did. The business leaders knew that whenever they needed something Daley did it for them. Period. Citizens be damned. Now we get people bitching and moaning when he is gone, but during the reign of mismanagement and terror he won elections by landslide.

10/28/2017 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Freedom of Information Act...unless you live in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. Then, the laws do t seem to apply.

10/28/2017 02:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God, it's so corrupt here. Just think, maybe when Hillary Clinton was growing up in Park Ridge she studied the workings of the Chicago Machine. She learned her chicanery from the best of them. From one swamp to another.

10/28/2017 02:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"secrecy trumps the public’s right to know"

do the assholes in the machine even begin to comprehend how fucking hated they are by the commoners?

10/28/2017 03:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Government covering for government. The protected remain protected even after death. If Joe average knew the truth he might revolt and bring in a new group of thieves. Pissing on graves will be all the justice you get.

10/28/2017 04:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a surprise.

10/28/2017 04:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Asshole Daley knew that night that the a-hole venecko hit the kid and the jag-off detectives played dumb the whole time for a promotion. Sad thing is if koschman punched that a-hole venecko, he would've been arrested that night.

10/28/2017 04:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Business as usual in cook county.

10/28/2017 05:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trout mouth was right in bed with Daley. The fix was in from the beginning. Richie's testimony was written not spoken. He couldn't put a sentence together while he was mayor. Do you remember when he said"I didn't know what I said when I said it".What? I'm sure it was worked out and Richie told the nephew to give it up and we'll put all the heat on the police. Count on it.Richie can't testify in court but he sure can get out on the town and continue living that comp life,dinners, travel, and being on numerous corporation boards that he helped with city business. He can't even spell ethics.Its Chicago,were fucked.

10/28/2017 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The God-King does no wrong.

10/28/2017 06:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who were the judges on the Appellate court when that happened? Mormons?

10/28/2017 07:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was no problem unsealing the jack ryan divorce papers vs obama senate race.

10/28/2017 07:43:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

The assholes in the machine know how much is commoners hate them. However, we are outnumbered by the great unwashed, who can turn any election.

10/28/2017 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley cost the tax payers 44.5 million dollars

10/28/2017 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need another Operation Greylord, or operation gambat type of toilet flushing in crook co. and chicongo. But only after Trump gets to appoint all of his new federal judges. And don't stop at local government, go after all these non-government organizations that enable graft and sedition. They could call it "operation shit can 'em all and let God sort 'em out" .

10/28/2017 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bernie Madoff is sitting in prison for bilking his clients out of their money....Daley bilked a whole city and he walks free. Karma is gonna be a MoFo. ♠️

10/28/2017 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Chief Judge had no problem releasing Grand Jury testimony in the Jon Burge case. Their point was that the public's right to know outweighed the Grand Juries secrecy rules. Of course in the Daley Crime Family Syndicate normal rules don't apply.
Scum Times reporter Dan M. at least had the balls to report that Daley family connected Judges refused to release information related to former Mayor Daley. All we can do is hope that the (?) Better Government Association will continue this fight and appeal this ruling. Of course in the corrupt State of Illinois the chance of getting away from the sphere of the corrupt Daley's is probably impossible.

10/28/2017 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fall out from this case keeps raining on this city like a rain of raw sewage.
Who got punished here, for a murder and a juiced cover up? NOBODY.
Every clout lackey walked away untouched.
WTF, it continues to this day with Cirone refusing to accept any responsibility.
Say what you will about the Sun Times. Much of it justified. But their guys Fusco and Novak were the ONLY reason any of this saw the light of day. They got death threats. Without them Richie Vanecko wouldn't have spent all those horrible 60 days in jail for killing a kid, running away, and lying about it for four years. Scum.

10/28/2017 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck shortshanks. Once he is on his death bead they will indict him like they did all the rest.

10/28/2017 09:37:00 AM  
Blogger Baby"G" said...

So once again, "Mumbles" avoids liability, while the taxpayers pay the bill for his failures and corruption. Yet, the people of the 11th Ward remain brain dead and support his nephew, who looks more like his son, than his real son. (Lovechild?) Apparently, some of us Never Learn.

10/28/2017 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Drain the swamp! Wherever you may find it!

J.J.

10/28/2017 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey pal, don't even think about it.......
those gravestones are electrified.......
National Inquirer has been pre-paid to
cover groups of rouge cops found dead,
pants down, dick in hand, found collapsed
and dead in semi-circle around grave....
Naturally, name of deceased won't be
mentioned. Story slanted to make cops
out to be pervs and Satanists Cult Members.
Wacko Cops Zapped After Midnight

10/28/2017 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scum on top in Chicago.

10/28/2017 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well let me tell you a little secret just in case you didn't know it was his son Patrick who did the killing of David Koshman not RJ fanatical.

10/28/2017 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is how we know that daley is dirtier than a New Orleans whore the day after Mardi Gras.

10/28/2017 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmm, so far 3 more people have died as a result of punches thrown yet not one peep from the media. No one is going to jail over these because everyone knows these are bar fights. Other then Daly's nephew name one person who's gone to prison for a similar crime. The dept got a black eye and good people lost their jobs for no reason.

10/28/2017 05:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just as a pray that these sob's that cheated on the Lt's & Sgt' tests get theirs, some how some way. Dirty MF's....

10/28/2017 06:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hizzoner probably answered questions in front of the Grand Jury the same way he responded to other inquiries: I don't know and I don't remember.

If you wanna know why it won't be released, just repeat that Daley is King and you're a commoner. Remember dat. Keep feeding the meters.

10/28/2017 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
God, it's so corrupt here. Just think, maybe when Hillary Clinton was growing up in Park Ridge she studied the workings of the Chicago Machine. She learned her chicanery from the best of them. From one swamp to another.

10/28/2017 02:58:00 AM

She wasn't paying attention or she would have won. Do you think that Richard J. Daley would have lost an election like that? Hillary thought she had it all wrapped up, didn't go where she needed to go, and Trump out hustled her.

10/28/2017 06:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And this too shall pass.........R. Daley

10/28/2017 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then C.R numbers should be sealed (if not destroyed) and kept from public scrutiny, opinion and bias.

10/28/2017 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:
Thanks for the "used camel joke" from the yesterdays post, and to the Ret. Det with the Joe Curtin "Panama hat" story.
Remembering snippets of both of these are probably from working w/you at Spec Emp CTA tubes back in the late 80's.
It's a shame what happened to levity on this job.
They just don't make old coppers anymore like they used to.
Thanks.

10/28/2017 08:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Well let me tell you a little secret just in case you didn't know it was his son Patrick who did the killing of David Koshman not RJ fanatical.

10/28/2017 12:36:00 PM


This whisper has been popping up since the beginning
about it was actually Mike "Shameless Slovenly
Pantyless Media Whore" Sneed's beloved boy-crush
Patrick Daley.

Gah...

We still reflexively itch from remembering
how she used to gush over him.

10/28/2017 09:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

OT:
Thanks for the "used camel joke" from the yesterdays post, and to the Ret. Det with the Joe Curtin "Panama hat" story.
Remembering snippets of both of these are probably from working w/you at Spec Emp CTA tubes back in the late 80's.
It's a shame what happened to levity on this job.
They just don't make old coppers anymore like they used to.
Thanks.

10/28/2017 08:49:00 PM

Who was the boss who had the hub caps epoxied/superglued
to the rims of his car with a extra lug nut or two rattling
around inside each one?

>RATTLE-CLANK-CLANG<

Lol.

That sounded like some "Indian Burial Ground" kind of stuff.

God Bless The Police.

10/28/2017 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
There was no problem unsealing the jack ryan divorce papers vs obama senate race.



Amen...and that was just a civil divorce settlement. Somebody has to appeal this decision as high as it needs to go.

10/29/2017 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This department f@cks with FOIA requests all the time. They defy the time limits, non-communicative and blames some other source as to why they can't fulfill the request. Don't let that "transparency " rhetoric fool you, you would never know the DOJ investigated the CPD, business as usual.

10/29/2017 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley upped the fluoride which proves out the brain damage research. He robbed the city blind and got away with it.

10/29/2017 07:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The dept got a black eye and good people lost their jobs for no reason.

NO REASON? REALLY?
As I recall, it was because it was a concerted effort by a few City Hall backed hacks who held leadership positions within
the detective division that bent over backwards to keep DALEY'S NEPHEW out of this incident for years!!!
Had Vanecko stuck around and been honest about what had occurred, it is doubtful he would have even served a day.
The lies and deceit just caught up with him, along with the connected hacks who did the Mayor's bidding and swept
Vanecko's name far away from the incident.

NO REASON. My, how some of us on this job continue to function in their own little world of delusion.

10/30/2017 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The dept got a black eye and good people lost their jobs for no reason.

NO REASON? REALLY?
As I recall, it was because it was a concerted effort by a few City Hall backed hacks who held leadership positions within
the detective division that bent over backwards to keep DALEY'S NEPHEW out of this incident for years!!!
Had Vanecko stuck around and been honest about what had occurred, it is doubtful he would have even served a day.
The lies and deceit just caught up with him, along with the connected hacks who did the Mayor's bidding and swept
Vanecko's name far away from the incident.

NO REASON. My, how some of us on this job continue to function in their own little world of delusion.

10/30/2017 01:54:00 AM

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"hey if you're honest you won't spend a day in jail"

you're a complete fucking moron

10/31/2017 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hmm, so far 3 more people have died as a result of punches thrown yet not one peep from the media. No one is going to jail over these because everyone knows these are bar fights. Other then Daly's nephew name one person who's gone to prison for a similar crime. The dept got a black eye and good people lost their jobs for no reason.

10/28/2017 05:16:00 PM

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thank you. THe then head of Felony Review Darrin Johnson? had some balls at the time at least. Not like the ostrich coppers here. He said "we don't charge cases with negative information." And they don't. And every Det. knows this. Vanecko got charged BECAUSE he was Daley's nephew. Show me ONE, JUST ONE case with similar facts and the offender getting charged. SHow me ONE.

Until then STFU.

10/31/2017 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did other cases have missing files , calls to mayor ,commander of mayors detail ,chief of detectives ,crook county states attorney , ops, commander of area 3 detective division ,area 3 deputy chief
Inquiring minds want to know

10/31/2017 03:39:00 PM  

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