Referendum Nonsense
- Questions on the ballot in Chicago on March 8, 2018:
1: Do you love puppies? 2: How about kittens? 3. Isn’t Mom great?
So, okay, maybe the three referendum questions really on the ballot aren’t quite so soft as that, but they’re close.
And if you wonder why, it’s because the people who control what gets on the ballot are happy to make a mockery of the democratic process when it suits their purposes. As Fran Spielman of the Sun-Times reports, they have stuck three utterly uncontroversial questions on the ballot — the most allowed — to crowd out any embarrassingly controversial questions. For them, it’s a game.
We attempted, many years ago, to throw together a referendum to reduce Chicago aldercreatures to a more manageable and comparable in number to New York City and Los Angeles. Our meager (and failed) effort was undertaken in mere weeks and garnered about 10% of the required signatures for the question to appear on the ballot. But even if we had gathered the required total, the Board wouldn't have allowed it on the ballot, instead substituting in three nonsensical questions, as Fran discovered they are going to do this spring:
- 1. Do you support a comprehensive strategy to address the opioid and heroin epidemic?
2. Do you think the state’s insurance code should be changed to preserve health care benefits for people who have signed up for the Affordable Care Act?
3. Do you favor stiffer penalties for gun traffickers and a statewide ban on “bump stocks?”
None of which will lead to leaner, economically responsible, more efficient Chicago governance. But that's the point in the People's Socialist Republic of Chicago.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
68 Comments:
And let us not forget about TERM LIMITS for all elected officials in the state of Illinois!!!!
Thing that is the most annoying... 99.9998% of people had no idea what a bump stock was until the Vegas shooting and the media got wind of a really scary gun word to use. Now it’s all they cry about.
How about asking "sanctuary city" yes or no? The mayor should adopt what the people vote, not his personal opinion.
It's third grade all over again.
Charlie Brown set up a table on his lawn
with a sign stating "Acid Trips------5 Cents."
City shut it down pronto. No sign permit.
Thank goodness for Bloggers and Blogs for getting the truth out.
Here is how your typical Aldertard will answer these questions:
1. Do you support a comprehensive strategy to address the opioid and heroin epidemic?
Answer: Unlike Donald Trump, who has ignored the epidemic, we will bring awareness to the opioid crisis by marching in the streets with Father Phleger.
2. Do you think the state’s insurance code should be changed to preserve health care benefits for people who have signed up for the Affordable Care Act?
Answer: As long as retired cops don't have coverage, we are all for it.
3. Do you favor stiffer penalties for gun traffickers and a statewide ban on “bump stocks?”
Answer: Wall Street has a history of using 'bump stocks,' to supply the NRA with dangerous fire arms and rocket launchers. I will put forth legislation to put restrictions on Wall Street to prevent further rocket launcher violence in the ghetto.
This is more nonsense from Midget Madigan. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"
We need a new Board of Election Commisioners! The same clowns who failed to protect our private information as well as ruled that a wedding dress proves residency. The poorly trained judges also affect the quality of our elections such as allowing dead citizens to still vote.
Throw the bums out along with the ballerina!
Change 3 to read “should states attorneys and judges begin to enforce laws that are currently written and a part of the ILCS?”
What a bunch of silly assholes. Ive yet to see a bump stock anywheres and I bet not one has ever been recovered. But these fools will trot to the gates and happily think their thieves..err...politicians are looking out for them.
025th District
I write an ocassional isr, a couple of parkers, movers and blue cards. That is enough to work the 3rd watch 1730 start and because of my hard work, I go home 2 to 3 hours early. Plus our sergeant is cool as fuck.
What a bunch of CRAP. This utterly and TOTALLY RIDICULUS. I can think of at least 10 questions right off the bat, that has some meat on the bones...
Do you like kittens was actually better.
No
No
And
No
It's not just the number of aldermen that needs to be reduced. How about cutting the number (50,000) patronage Streets and Sanitation workers down too. How many other patronage jobs are there in other departments?
The third question is actually two questions.
That makes 4 in total.
Who is going to call them on this?
What about questions regarding bike lanes, soda taxes, hood shootings, and stealing nominations to elections--- things that democrats love
Joe Stalin's ghosts live on in Chicago.
How about "should the board of elections allow non machine approved candidates?"
No. No. No.
Yes we have no bananas?
the game is rigged...FOREVER...have a plan...90 days...6 months...2 years...whatever.
get out of Chicago...cook...Illinois
start today
now
until the people of illinois can vote in a real AG immune from partisan bullshit. this will continue to be the norm.
#4. Do you feel safe in the city of Chicago?
My answers to the ballot questions:
1. Do you support a comprehensive strategy to address the opioid and heroin epidemic?
Hell no! Any so-called "Comprehensive Strategy" will be an un-godly clusterfuck that does nothing to address the issue and only punishes the law-abiding (see any "common sense gun control measures" for a prime example). Let Darwin work his magic. Self cleaning oven.
2. Do you think the state’s insurance code should be changed to preserve health care benefits for people who have signed up for the Affordable Care Act?
Again, Hell no! Most, if not all, that have signed up or Oblabla care were either forced into it when the policy they had was canceled because of Oblabla care or, are getting large subsidies at the expense of others. Burn it ALL down. Get government the hell out of health insurance. They fuck up everything they get their slimy tentacles on.
3. Do you favor stiffer penalties for gun traffickers and a statewide ban on “bump stocks?”
And once again, Hell no! Enforce the laws and penalties already on the books! We all know where the so-called "Gun Violence" problem communities are. Fuck the race-baiters like Kimisha, Phather Phuckhead, Jessie Jackass, etc. If these "People of Color" don't want to be locked up, then maybe they should start acting like civilized people instead of feral savages.
Californians seem to do these populist ballot propositions a lot better than we do in Chicago.
I'd like this proposition.
Do you support banning three time convicted felons from ever setting foot in the city of Chicago under pain of death?
Do you support using Singapore and Malaysia style punishment for hard drug traffickers, rapists and murderers (flogging and execution)
Do you support anti Trust actions to break up the Lb Leftist media mafia monopolies.
Do you support enforcing existing immigration laws and pursing a pro American, America First foreign policy?
Do you support making fake Christian Reverands and Priests (Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Father Faker) do one week of honest physical labor every year?
Do you support allowing teachers, principals and retired military veterans to publicly beat the arses of teenagers who wear their paints below their butts.
How about
Do you support $1 million dollars of your property tax money being essentially stolen by Mayor Rahm Emanuel via some bureaucratic procedure bullshit to be place into an illegal immigrant defense fund to fight the federal taxes you've already paid to enforce illegal immigration laws??
The Fed taxes us to enforce illegal immigration and deportation and Rahm taxes us to defend against it. WTF why are people standing for this?
It's not just $1 million dollars being wasted by the mayor. What's the multiplier the fed has to spend as Rahm floods the fed courts to protect the lawbreakers from deportation?
This Sanctuary City culture is not as virtuous as the Chicago liberal politicians make it sound.
They're not about 'the families" NO. They are about creating a slave wage culture like that Chicago bakery that makes buns for McDonalds that got busted. 800 employees one-third of their workforce unable to provide citizenship paperwork to legally work here.
The MSM putting the negative spin on it all. Oh it's hurting the company. Oh it's hurting jobs as the illegal immigrants are now out of a job.
How about the exploitation of these people with the substandard wages that make them live two, three, families in a small two bedroom apartment. The lost tax revenue from the slave wages. The depression of wages across businesses because "We support the Sanctuary City" culture.
They don't care about the families. This Sanctuary City bullshit is about corporate profits, depressing wages, creating poverty centers and victims for not only corporations to exploit but the street gangs as well.
" As Illinois muni debt continues to hover around all-time highs, the number of watchdog groups offering warnings about Chicago's deteriorating finances continues to grow. The latest such warning comes from Truth In Accounting which provided the Windy City an 'F' on their latest fiscal report card citing a staggering debt burden that amounts to $41,700 per Chicago resident. To put that figure in perspective, the median household income in Chicago is roughly $48,500.
Here's a summary from TIA: ..."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-28/chicago-gets-f-new-fiscal-report-card-bonds-continue-hover-around-all-time-highs
Illinois loses 1 resident every 4.6 minutes.
I like question 3. Two separate questions that you can only answer one way. Guess I'll be voting no for stiffer penalties.
off Topic---when will CPD get around to outing and punishing their supervisors who engage in sexually inappropriate behavior...lets have the IG look at all those closed complaints.
Years ago, a referendum was worded “for the safety of our children, should .50 caliber guns be banned in Cook County?”
Just need one question on the ballot: Should any political party with a communist agenda, that attacks the U.S. Constitution, that puts the "rights" of criminals and illegal aliens above U.S. citizens rights, that claims to protect and then victimizes women, be allowed to operate in the United States of America?
Yes____
No ____
J.J.
lisa mafigan is an idiot
I can't wait for the bump stock ban. It's the simplest thing in the world to make, not that you'd ever want one. I'll sell them for prohibition prices. Ka-ching!
I'm Shannon Heffernan, a reporter at WBEZ, the public radio station in Chicago. We are looking to talk to some police officers (we do not use to use names) for our series Every Other Hour about gun violence in Chicago. We'd like to include the perspective of officers outside leadership and press conferences. If you are willing to talk (even on background) or have questions about what this might mean, you can reach me at: sheffernan AT wbez DOT org or call me at 312-893-2937.
"Do you favor stiffer penalties for gun traffickers and a statewide ban on “bump stocks?”
What'll they do if they get "YES"? Designate these as Felony crimes and then let the perpetrators go free?
with all these sexual misconduct cases im surprise the news media hasn't looked at the some cpd bosses, I know at least ten that had acted improperly over the years
How about asking "sanctuary city" yes or no? The mayor should adopt what the people vote, not his personal opinion.
Sorry can't do that. The only thing that matters right now for the city is the RFQ for the express train from downtown to Ohare.
Better question: should Chicago deffect from Cook County and the State of Illinois?
They pulled the same shit with our pension during 2012 elections. Almost cost us big time.
Anonymous
Anonymous said...
How about asking "sanctuary city" yes or no? The mayor should adopt what the people vote, not his personal opinion.
11/29/2017 12:59:00 AM
Lol. You’ve been stuck in Copland too long, if you think the rest of this liberal City would vote against a sanctuary city.
ELMHURST, IL — Elmhurst Police have charged three suspects following an investigation of burglary and auto theft that occurred on Monday morning. The three suspects were found Monday after a manhunt involving several area police departments.
Tyrone Wilson, 19, of Chicago, Deanthony Webb, 23, of Chicago, and Deonte Daniel, 21, of Chicago, have all been charged with three counts of burglary and possession of stolen motor vehicle. Both of these charges are class 2 felonies.
Through an investigation, police said they discovered that over 20 unlocked cars and several unlocked garages were entered in north Elmhurst to steal items of value and look for cars with keys in the ignition. One of the suspects apprehended was on parole and each of the suspects has prior criminal arrests.
great work Elmhurst pd had this been Chicago special ed be looking to fire you and kimmy ( yes Im very stupid) fox would had given them an I-bond.
According to the DuPage County State's Attorney's Office, bond has been set at $250,000 with 10 percent to apply for each of the three suspects.
Edison park rocks
I can't wait to leave this silly city!
Chicago sucks and I tell people all the time as a front line beat officers!
Distract the pinheads at the polls.
Nothing about crime & punishment.
What’s the deal with those bumps stocks, is that some financial mutual fund?
Harsher penalty for running guns, for example that muslim gal from Mt. Prospect:
“Simone Mousheh, 23, pleaded guilty Thursday to the illegal transfer of firearms in exchange for 12 months probation and 15 days in the Cook County sheriff's work alternative program, according to court records“
That 15 days of Dart SWAP...could go up to 20 days along with 18 months Cook Co KimJongFxxx probation.
Previously:
Anonymous
“with all these sexual misconduct cases im surprise the news media hasn't looked at the some cpd bosses, I know at least ten....”
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Feelin that pain...
Looking for a good lawyer-I wanna get rich!
So...I’m thinking of jumping on this latest hot topic “Misconduct” Band Wagon myself!
When I think of all those misconducted Denny’s waitresses that harassed and abused over the years...
Time for them to pay up!
😈
All right women _ IT'S YOUR TIME!!!! Now is the time to stand up to all the sexual harassment you suffered at the hands of your exempts past and present. We know you are out there. Come forward and let your voices be heard. There will never be another moment in time more favorable to you and your story. Speak up!!
That goes for all you women (and men -let's remember who is in charge here) who were abused, assaulted, raped or humiliated at the hands of the politicians in this city. Your time for justice has arrived.
How about the exploitation of these people with the substandard wages that make them live two, three, families in a small two bedroom apartment. The lost tax revenue from the slave wages. The depression of wages across businesses because "We support the Sanctuary City" culture.
They don't care about the families. This Sanctuary City bullshit is about corporate profits, depressing wages, creating poverty centers and victims for not only corporations to exploit but the street gangs as well.
11/29/2017 11:49:00 AM
Don't you have a demonstration to be at?
They don't care about the families. This Sanctuary City bullshit is about corporate profits, depressing wages, creating poverty centers and victims for not only corporations to exploit but the street gangs as well.
11/29/2017 11:49:00 AM
Don't you have a demonstration to be at?
I saw Rahm with the 100 Million Dollar unused hole in the ground under Block 37 pushing for a Billion Dollar High Speed rail to O’Hare. Screw that, make it a giant homeless encampment! Let the homeless use it for shelter and make services available to shower them and provide clean clothing. No more sleeping under Lower Wacker or Viaducts on LSD. It’s bigger than a football stadium and could sleep thousands.
Hey,Shannon from WBEZ, here's a clue. It's not gun violence. That term is straight out of the democrat playbook. Try something that more accurately described what's going on. Maybe lack of criminal accountability or punishment for a start. Do an expose on how many parolees continue the county wide catch and release program. Thug life rules in cook county because it's allowed!!! Anything for votes, including letting a superintendent continue in a job when he's let the murder rate double two years running. That's only partly his fault, as gmac signed the cpd death warrant with the aclu agreement and rahm and his old boss piled on with their "in depth studies" based on statistically insignificant incidents. Somebody's hurt feelings don't equate to all of the nonsense both "studies" "found."
The Board of Communists is more like it.
I wonder if Rahm or his brother know anything about this....
Uber being investigated for stealing trade secrets?
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/11/29/uber-facing-federal-probe-allegations-espionage/
The ones with grade school and High School diploma's will see right thru this but the college educated will wax poetic about our caring Govt.
Fools. Fools and suckers all.
Anonymous shannon heffernan said...
I'm Shannon Heffernan, a reporter at WBEZ, the public radio station in Chicago. We are looking to talk to some police officers (we do not use to use names) for our series Every Other Hour about gun violence in Chicago. We'd like to include the perspective of officers outside leadership and press conferences. If you are willing to talk (even on background) or have questions about what this might mean, you can reach me at: sheffernan AT wbez DOT org or call me at 312-893-2937.
Ahh yes criminal justice reporter ahh yes you can be trusted:
https://www.wbez.org/staff/Shannon+Heffernan
11/29/2017 12:55:00 PM
You went to what kollege?:
We do not use to use names? Sorry will never talk to the dishonest chicago media ever! Are you a liberal democrat voter?
@shannon heffernan.....while many real coppers would love to give their opinion on a range of topics, you're out of your mind if you think we trust anyone in the media in this town. #youreinbedwithcityhall......NO CHANCE
D/C Rottner is finally working where he lives.
In Madigastan this is not a democracy. The people have no say. Until the sheeple stop voting democratic, it will be ground hog day every day.
Instead of making changes in order to have people want to live here they do the opposite.
Who loves puppies?
Who hates those who are mean to puppies?
who loves choclate chip cookies?
would you support an amendment to The Constitution that makes choclate chip cookies free?
‘Do you support allowing teachers, principals and retired military veterans to publicly beat the arses of teenagers who wear their paints below their butts.
11/29/2017 10:36:00 AM”
Paints? 12 years of Chicago Archdiocese education at its finest.
025 District
Sgt Pancakes stop writing posts about yourself or your lackey RL aka: Dumbo
The illusion of citizen participation in the actions taken by those empowered with the authority to impose taxations must be maintained.
Thus, elections are held, albeit with only ruling cabal candidates to choose from, and, from time to time, opinion poll type questions, coated with a thin veneer of fake authority, are presented.
Questions akin to: Do you like kittens or puppies?
Our city and county populace consists of 3 basic, essential to the continuation of the status quo, motivatives.......
Those who are employed by, and, thus, earn their income, nominally for some,and are motivated to avoid significant changes in those who rule.
Those who are provided with income, sans any work whatsoever, and are motivated to keep the free from working income flowing.
Those who use their control of tax expenditures to skim, scam and otherwise line their pockets.
Whoever is not described in the above 3 classifications is, by effective definition, the chump who pays......
The undesirable paying too much for too little experience is what could fuel a MAGA type effort here, were the quantity of the populace fitting the above three classifications not so large.
We tolerated the cheating until the quantity of cheaters, much like roaches, became too big to counteract.....
Time to call in the fumigation brigade.
Can retired police officers tell us/me if the Chicago Crime Commission is still in operation? I'm looking for some civilian organization that supports sensible, time tested law enforcement and opposes the agendas of BlackLiesMatter, the ACLU, Chicago's open criminal street gang organizations (LBJ era Lib Dems gave the Blackstone Rangers Gang $1 million in federal funding).
I remember when ex Chicago Police Chief Jody Weiss was briefly the head of the Chicago Crime Commission and then he stepped down for some reason.
The Chicago Crime Commission's "The Gang Book" ~ 2013 is excellent.
I want so much to be a part of something positive in Chicago that works to clean up Chicago the same way things were cleaned up until Mayor Guliani and the NYPD in the mid 1990s. Yeah, yeah the NYPD did the work, but they had overwhelming private citizen support to take back the streets of NYC from the punks, rapists, squeegee men and the race hustlers like Al (Not a Reverend) Sharpton?
Anonymous shannon heffernan said...
I'm Shannon Heffernan, a reporter at WBEZ, the public radio station in Chicago. We are looking to talk to some police officers (we do not use to use names) for our series Every Other Hour about gun violence in Chicago. We'd like to include the perspective of officers outside leadership and press conferences. If you are willing to talk (even on background) or have questions about what this might mean, you can reach me at: sheffernan AT wbez DOT org or call me at 312-893-2937.
11/29/2017 12:55:00 PM
Since anybody can post here, and it's obvious a lot of posters are not police officers, how are you going to verify that the people calling you will be?
All the laws in the world will never work in a criminal justice system that has no intention of holding the guilty party responsible. Crook County USA
Anonymous Anonymous said...
025 District
Sgt Pancakes stop writing posts about yourself or your lackey RL aka: Dumbo
There is only 1 Sgt pancakes and he is in the 002 Dist on midnights!!
Instead of this bullshit how about
1. Do you support term limits
2. Do you support stiffer laws and harsher punishments
3. Do you support taxpayers input prior to politicians wasting taxpayers dollars on pet projects
Just to name 3...
How about a referendum to remove 50 ALDERMEN and only have 10 aldermen and only 10 wards ???? Look at all the money the city can save.
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