Waste of Time and Money
- Inspector General Joe Ferguson said Tuesday he will conduct an audit in 2018 to determine why nearly 10 percent of Chicago Police vehicles — twice the industry standard — are “unavailable” because they are sidelined for maintenance.
In his annual audit plan, Ferguson said he will also seek to determine why “the average length of time” it takes the city’s Department of Fleet and Facilities Management to service police vehicles is 21.3 days, which “exceeds industry standards.”
Gee, let's see if we can save the IG some time and effort:
- under-staffing the garages, and what staffing there is under-performs;
- body work, transmission work, every short of R-Service is off site;
- no warranty work - all the police "add-ons" void the warranties;
- no set maintenance schedule - Jiffy Lube could do a better job
There you go Joe. Now you can spend more time investigating cheating scandals.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
62 Comments:
The corrupt IG will find nothing. Just like he found in the Lts. exam scam. Although he did parlay that so called investigation into an extended contract for himself.
Perfectly stated. Is Ferguson from Mars or what ?
Breaks to be scheduled at Jiffy Lube.
Predict-O-Crime computer will tell you
when it's safe.
So, police add-ons void the warranty.
For your own safety, don't ride in one
made on a Monday or Friday.
Save this post for when the report comes out.
Just replace all the squads with bicycles!
Think of the savings on gas and maintenance!
It will automatically eliminate every car chase.
“Sidelined for Maintenance” wait a minute, bodywork is not maintenance. I hope the department’s pension for cracking up cars is not being counted as maintenance. After all, it takes time to un-smash thousands of accidents every year.
Investigate the cheating scandal? Why won't the IG release the evidence to the sgts unions per their FOIA request...if that even happened
AHHH HELLO JOE , Just ask Rahm , This shit all starting happening when Rahm came in .It now takes weeks before any car gets back , and they are now sorted out to different Garages too , Just like the Charter Schools , Just ASK RAHM
One more SCC:
CFD vehicles are given priority over CPD vehicles.... only furthering the already lengthy time for repair.
If we have to share a maintenance facility, I don’t think we should, then vehicles should be taken on a first come first serve basis.
Knock off this priority bullshit.
Bureaucracy,red tape, ineptitude... need I go on?
"Twice the industry standard" --- I thought twice as much in these regard would be a good thing.
Quit your bitching your lucky we have gas!
What about the frontline cars? You know the ones that the elected like the mayor Eddie Burke,the treasurer,the city clerk all the exempts and desk dollies Those vehicles are priority number one. The warranty situation could’ve been resolved because ford motor company offers a plug-and-play police to your call where comes factory direct full equipped including the paint with the lights and sirens properly install, thereby vehicles would have a warranty instead of having goober type parts changers butchering the wiring systems and the vehicles and installing substandard junk equipment.
The people that work in the garages are paid extremely well they make more money than police officers and many other city workers, will you work at say a dealership you are on a schedule called book rate and you are required to properly fix the vehicles in a certain amount of time and if you repeatedly cannot do the job in the required amount of time you are suspended been terminated. If also you repair a vehicle improperly you will repair the vehicle on your own time so you make sure the vehicle is fixed right the first time unlike with the city does with the connected parks changers that work in the various garages!
This shit started happening when they closed the area garages and went with fleet management. These guys could give two shits about coppers or the cars we drive.
The extra half hour in the work schedule doesn’t help either. Cars are rotated because of this. When coppers aren’t assigned to the same car each day, they don’t take “ownership” of the vehicle and, consequently, don’t take care of it because they probably won’t see it again for days. Used to be you were assigned the same car every day and most coppers took care of it like it was there own. You also knew who to look for if something was fucked up.
What industry standard is he talking about?
When ever I needed some work on the wagon at A/3 garage back when....I always brought in a dozen of Dunkin Donuts for the guys. Sure seemed to work for me....
I say let Joe Ferguson have at it! If his inquiry will show the blatant laziness many city employees display on a daily basis, let Joe "drain our swamp here" too!
Of course wrecked cars are counted as down for maintenance. That’s all spelled out in the maintenance section of Ford Interceptor owners manual, “Routine Body and Fender Repairs” every 3 months or 3,000 miles. It’s right under “Routine Passenger Compartment Maintenance” which includes de-chicken boning the interior and cockroach bombing.
Been a joke for years. The garages have 2 unions. Electricians and mechanics. Instead of 1 guy fixing something at 1 time the cars have to wait to have the other guy fix it. Napa who has a great parts contract can't get the parts fast enough. They tried to privatize years ago but the politicians resisted. The other side is that coppers tear up these cars and no accountability EVER. THEYCANT EVEN PUT GAS IN OR Wish. Sergeants where are you? And forget the excuses that you work in the ghetto and don't have time. HAVE SOME PRIDE
commissioner reynolds and his minions are more worried about punishing workers than they are getting them the tools they need to fix things.
police and fire garages are now combined, none of the garages have the correct parts to support either.
if everything isnt fucked up, its not for the city of chicago
They are just alley mechanics working there. Ever see them do a brake job? They never turn the rotors. Just slap new pads on. Better off having "Just Tires" or one of those outside shops do the work.
I thought I was reading an old article about Detroit.The similarities are striking..Americans ,when leaving Chicago will you please bring the flag..but forget the lights ,let the Dimocrats and Illegals pay for them..
By industry standard, they mean other police departments. It’s odd that only Chicago police have these issues.
Stop treating your cars like crap and they won’t be in the shop all the time.
I am no fan of Joe Ferguson but I am glad he is looking into this. The downtime is absolutely unacceptable. The garage at Harrison and Kedzie is filled with idiots that don't know the right end of a screwdriver.
Thank the DEMORATS!!!!
Anybody but Emmanuel
Cute, Rahm's twisted little monkey Joe Ferguson really brings his A game in this hard hitting audit !
Thank the DEMORATS!!!!
Anybody but Emmanuel
Bravo, lying cover up artist Joe Ferguson and the corrupt inspector general's office will shepard us through these trying time for law enforcement.
One more SCC:
CFD vehicles are given priority over CPD vehicles.... only furthering the already lengthy time for repair.
If we have to share a maintenance facility, I don’t think we should, then vehicles should be taken on a first come first serve basis.
Knock off this priority bullshit.
12/21/2017 03:06:00 AM
CFD gets priority in everything including pay.
Nick Schuler took down Two CPS CEOs handpicked by Rahm, (Triple B and Claypool) in little more time than Ferguson whitewashed the cheating scandal. Make Nick the new IG for City Council. They won't run him out of town and close the office like they did the last guy.
I’ll tell you what does the most damage to the squad cars........speed bumps.
Here is a classic example of shorty raccoon outsmarting himself thinking he was saving money by not hiring more police and having streets & San install the “stationary policeman” on the roads.
SCC, that was easy.
Couldn't figure out the Lt cheating scam (per Rahms orders) but can investigate a bunch of grease monkeys.
Worked on the south side my whole career. Watched Englewood get boarded up house by house, my question is where did all of the people go?
Could also a factor be that vendors don't want to wait for payment when supplying parts?
You're wrong about the warranty statement; extended warranties ARE available for police cars, albeit at an extra cost.
Option code 67H "ready for the road" packages!
http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/police-vehicles/2017%20Police%20Interceptor%20Utility%20Lighting%20Packages%2010-7-16.pdf
So Ford equips them all at the factory,have a friend that works at ford and was told it will be warranted fully by Ford if they do the installations! Ford uses all the newest tested state of the art Ford approved plug and play equipment. Was also told many dept are now leasing police vehicles,and returning yearly for replacement new model vehicles,yes it costs but would bet the savings would be more than the cost and we would have fresh vehicles that are not constantly falling apart being prepared by parts changers at best!
So that is the answer but this way the "manila envelopers" would not be passed and the campaign contributions to the elected would obviously diminish somewhat!
Oh and Joey F. come on man your total lack of skills is pathetic now about that lieutenants scandal you quickly tucked away after getting another big contract and significant boost in pay nad personnel!
Most of the CPD car with body damage get repaired at Knight's Trucking across the street from Midwest Gun shop in suburban Lyons. Shouldn't they be getting fixed in the city of Chicago?
Maybe you should start by hiring qualified people.
Gee - you don't suppose speed humps and potholes have anything to do with maintenance do you? And stop signs and stop lights every 300 feet. Suspension and brakes have no choice but to go to shit. Does any garage have an alignment machine? or is that work farmed out, or just never done, causing $200 a pop tires to go bald before their time.
I'm guessing mechanics are on straight time, not book time, so why work harder than you have to? Anyone who had to only work on the same model car all the time could probably do 6-7 brake jobs a day. But the book says something like 2hrs each, and if they are salary, that equates to only 4 a day. This isn't rocket science....
Not to mention they probably don't pay the parts bill in a timely manner, so they get no parts to install
Fuck Loe Fergudunceson. He is non-consequential and a clown. He couldn't find a crime in a meth factory.
Factor in the age of our cars, we still have 2003 crown vics. He should be asking why we have cars that old, what's the industry standard for that? He should also be asking, with our shortage of cars, why secretaries in ocd have new explorers. I'm sure there are units that need cars more than a secretary.
The garage folk have gone fetal? Say it aint so, joe!!!
Police stuff voiding warranties???
Sounds to me like a crock in need of media attention!
Ford Reps ought to be cornered on why converter issues are voided by flashy lights and why there isnt a stand alone fleet warranty for police vehicles BECAUSE they are police vehicles.
It seems to me a purchase agent for a large department ought to be negotiating for just such a thing. Why isnt Chicago doing so?
I would bet that it IS and got a better price because they opted out of warranties. Any takers on that bet??
[(Municipal garage + government employees)x {incompetence factor^10x10000} - (labor contract)] x [(buffoon mayor)x(buffoon city council)] = many broke ass police vehicles sitting for months
It’s probably because the Department holds on to THOUSANDS of pool cars instead of selling them off and replacing them with new ones.
RAHM Saving Money for his new Choo Choo he wants , From Ohare to his House
Wait till fleet moves to 63rd and King drive. It's not going to get any better.
I think you strike the wrong tone here. This audit could prove beneficial in various ways.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
One more SCC:
CFD vehicles are given priority over CPD vehicles.... only furthering the already lengthy time for repair.
If we have to share a maintenance facility, I don’t think we should, then vehicles should be taken on a first come first serve basis.
Knock off this priority bullshit.
12/21/2017 03:06:00 AM
CFD gets priority in everything including pay.
12/21/2017 08:14:00 AM
True dat!
Then again they’re “heros” and we are “the problem”
Worked on the south side my whole career. Watched Englewood get boarded up house by house, my question is where did all of the people go?
12/21/2017 09:07:00 AM
Naperville
Things ran much smoother when the police department ran the garages.
They are just alley mechanics working there. Ever see them do a brake job? They never turn the rotors. Just slap new pads on. Better off having "Just Tires" or one of those outside shops do the work.
As an alley mechanic myself, when is the last time you tried turning rotors? They are so thin, they will go under spec if you try. No quality rotors anymore unless you want to pay BIG bucks.-all made in China. I'd rather not have new rotors if the old ones don't pulse.
One schmuck working, two clouted hiding. That's the template for the City maintenance crews.
How about supervisors refusing to allow their nightshift to charge AC on police cars when it’s 100° out? This is what was told to us at 51/wentworth garage. Probably bullshit so they didn’t have to work. 5 min for them = 8.5 hours of suffering for us. No one on days would take the fucking car and nights had more personnel so someone on nights would always get fucked. Such a dick move.
When ever I needed some work on the wagon at A/3 garage back when....I always brought in a dozen of Dunkin Donuts for the guys. Sure seemed to work for me....
*****
This is why I love this city....you have to suck dick to get someone to do their job and you think you came out a winner because they did said job promptly. Do you see how sad your logic is here? Reminds me of fat ass grumpy civilian timekeepers that I have had to do the same thing with just to see my own fucking time card without being yelled out of the office.
This city is beyond help.
They are just alley mechanics working there. Ever see them do a brake job? They never turn the rotors.
As the responder said about turning rotors are true . The car makers say they made the rotors thinner and lighter to save gas, but the real reason is to save the high quality steel that is used to make them. A few ounces per rotor times 4 per car per millions of cars adds up tons of steel.
Go by a garage and you probably won't see a brake lathe.
Re: brake rotors
It is actually more cost effective to replace the brake rotors with new aftermarket units than it is to try and turn the old ones on a lathe. Mechanics are pretty expensive on an hourly basis and the time involved usually ends up costing more than a new rotor.
Most, not all, vehicles from the past 20 years or so have the brake rotor as a separate part from the hub/bearing part.
The turning of rotors every renewal of pads was necessary due to the older vehicles having the rotor cast as part of the bearing/hub.
If mechanic takes the time and makes the effort to check the removable rotor for true flat and smooth, then applies a light abrasive to remove the surface gloss, the rotor need not be lathe turned.
Also, warping of rotor out of true flat is the common defect, grooving of rotor surface occurs most often if pads are allowed to wear far enough past the warning screech device, if pads are held to base by rivets. Most pads are held to base by ahdhesive bonding.
Side street speed bumps are the work of good intentions = bad results.
Were they to be reliably formed, true gradual rise and fall, and not often more akin to a turtle's shell, they would still achieve the good intention of slowing side street traffic, without knocking my dentures cockeyed.......
Things ran much smoother when the police department ran the garages.
12/22/2017 12:24:00 AM
But, then, where would all the kickbacks come from?
Old Joe will find nothing. The fleet got all new cars a few years ago. FOP bargained for it in their contract! Maybe we should file a grievance with Winter in Management and labor affairs, she'll have no clue what to do with it anyway.
It would be nice if the cigar smokers and chain smokers would think of their fellow officers and didn't stink up the cars. Nothing like starting a tour and finding cigar ashes covering the interior of the car and having the cigar stench permeate your clothes. It's ignorant.
Not to mention the closing of north and troop so rahm can sell that land. Let’s see who gets a sweet deal and kick backs on this one.
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