Friday, January 05, 2018

Hey 330 Third Watch?

You might want to review this Admin Fax Message:


We know it wasn't on the test.

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70 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bt 330, you’ve made the SCC headlines two days in a row. Will you rethink it now? I doubt it. Ha

1/05/2018 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then why is there a quota to work VRI ?

1/05/2018 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous L Donkey said...

009 commander wants more traffic stops! More blue cards! One p.o on the desk! Every able body in a squad car! Yet front office has not one empty cubicle and his hand picked social media officer walks around inside sans uniform. Hey but im sure that morale wont be effected...... Pffft

1/05/2018 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bosses know that they can get away with demanding activity as long as they dance around the topic without ever giving the troops a number. They will continue to do so until it becomes video and audio recorded and is made public. COPA snitch line should be blowing up when your resident White shirts start talking about bringing in more activity.

1/05/2018 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That memo was never read to the troops in my districts roll call when it was sent around. It was only until a Sgt voluntarily brought it up that it was mentioned. I hate some of these fucking sorry ass excuses for bosses nowadays.

1/05/2018 01:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

009th Dist Commander Darling wants more blue cards from the troops, because it’s a “crime deterrent.” Waiting for this to come back to bite some poor blue shirt in the ass when one of those harmless t stops turns deadly.

1/05/2018 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I was a betting man, I’d put money on this being Bubblehead’s meritorious pick for sergeant.

1/05/2018 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny I got kicked off my car for no ISRS! And specifically questioned by Lt why I dont write them week before booted for 2 year wonder took car!

1/05/2018 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, the list of fools continues to grow...

1) Lt Pap Schmeer- Housing To-From fool that got her annoying butt put in place when a copper wrote a beautifully poetic To-From response to her bullshit. Even back when she was a Sgt she was too dumb to leave well enough alone. For readers that never met her, I will help you out. Picture your ex-wife or ex-husband. Now imagine him or her times 1 million. Yes, she really is that annoying.

2) Commando Escamerit- Despised 025th district merit fool that had a high profile email leak that gave quotas the most exposure. This LAPA All-Star even made the news for his stupidity. Apparently he is so hated that you would be better off catching the Easter Bunny then finding anyone that likes him on the CPD. Go figure, at one time he was a Sgt in the TRU aka Totally Retarded Unit. I can only imagine how bad he accosted P.O.'s for activity back then. Probably while in the privacy of bathroom stalls.

3) Lt Kohnan (sp?)- 016th district fool that had a naughty list of low number generating coppers. Or as he put it, officers with a low amount of 'pieces.' Unsure if 'pieces,' is the common secret code word for activity used by all the bossholes, or if he just made it up himself, because by most accounts he sounds pathetic and senile. The Commander of 016 drove him a thousand miles away and left him on a farm but somehow he managed to find his way back.

4) Sgt. 330- The latest fool thinks that 003rd district officers are members of the polar bear club. Whomever this Sgt is, word around the camp fire is he/she is merit. Wow! Big shock! I never would have expected that. Regardless, 'any,' and I mean 'any,' stupervisor that is pushing for traffic stops in zero degree weather, is a complete and total fucking dipshit moron that has a brain the size of a marble. Doesn't matter if it is in the 003rd or the 016th district. It's still not too late to cut a deal Sgt 330. We all know you did it out of fear. Who ordered the 'Quota Code Red!' We want the truth!

I'm sure I have left some fools off of the list. Readers feel free to add to it. I don't have the stomach to go on.

1/05/2018 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They got paper on you, save every order, bulletin,
fax, suggestion FROM them.
Make copies; keep in different locations so you have
at least 3 sets of memos of their publications.
You never know how an insignificant document
might work in your favor on down the line. It's not
so much the document, but the patterns, dates, and
from-to's that count to build a case in your favor.
What you think is random communication may form
intent when viewed as a group.
It's kinda like baseball cards. You wish you had them back.
(Also, print out those emails if you can. They'll have a record,
but you can claim regulation overload and a bad memory.)

1/05/2018 02:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is 330 merit?

1/05/2018 03:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops someone f----d up.

1/05/2018 03:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not a quota, it's a goal.

1/05/2018 04:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

....Unless it involves your eligibility to work overtime initiatives, then in violation of state law signed by then Gov Quinn, we will request 3 of 5 categories of activity be met. We will justify this based on an arbitration decision by arbitrator Benn involving safe city overtime in which Benn allowed the City to create the categories and criteria for overtime eligibility. Through no fault of Benn, the state law was not in effect at the time, or else the decision would have been much different. It is amazing anyone has the balls to ask for numbers. Numbers are not our job. Now let's run out there and get a couple TSS cards on old ladies with one headlight. This city lacks leadership at every level. Quality Sgt's with common sense are going extinct. That rank is loaded with half-wits.

1/05/2018 05:02:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Doesn't matter. He can't read.

1/05/2018 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps 330 wasn’t a sergeant in May 2017 when the admin message came out. Perhaps the sergeant is a merit hack who didn’t have to know shit in order to “earn” a promotion. Just sayin’.

1/05/2018 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

too well written for 330 to be sgt C.

1/05/2018 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In this day and age, and with the current political climate that CPD is facing. I feel like any boss pushing for numbers and not encouraging the troops to just circle the wagons is a fucking selfish asshole! You “leaders” see daily what we’re up against and yet here you are nudging us ever closer to the edge of a cliff. Please never tell us that “you’ll have our backs” ever again. Already seen numerous examples of how that scenario plays out.

1/05/2018 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm from the D-unit but I didn't realize pulling someone over, letting them know their headlight was out and writing a TSS card was considered activity or revenue for the city. Seems to me in this climate of ACLU and ISR's traffic stops are the only safe bet for staying out of federal court these days.

1/05/2018 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Number of pieces? What the fuck is that? It had to be something made up in his or her own little world so as not to mention the word activity or quota. In reality if a boss doesnt think your performing adequately on a car he or she can move you. They dont need activity reasons, they dont even have to mention it. Guys and girls who have regular cars know what they need to do to keep that car. They know their boss and what he or she expects. If they want the car, do the work, if they don't care, then don't. But making up code words and secret personal activity profiles, WTF. some guys are just that dumb.

1/05/2018 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous L Donkey said...
009 commander wants more traffic stops! More blue cards! One p.o on the desk! Every able body in a squad car! Yet front office has not one empty cubicle and his hand picked social media officer walks around inside sans uniform. Hey but im sure that morale wont be effected...... Pffft

1/05/2018 12:35:00 AM

Very true.
Darlin’s “Admin” Office is so bloated it’s been solicited by Weight Watchers.
C’mon Darlin get your head out of your ass.... look at all the ridiculousness that’s right under your nose.
He’s got so many coppers “hidden” up in his office that he’s shifted several of them to Tact A&A’s.
Rumor is he’s run out of cubicle space for his chosen ones and is contemplating building an addition.

Inspectors and lapdog media this is an easy one. We just gift wrapped it for you.

1/05/2018 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

y said...
009 commander wants more traffic stops! More blue cards! One p.o on the desk! Every able body in a squad car! Yet front office has not one empty cubicle and his hand picked social media officer walks around inside sans uniform. Hey but im sure that morale wont be effected...... Pffft


Social media officer? This has to be a joke

1/05/2018 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If 330 had more time on this job they would have known it's called an “index” not a quota.

1/05/2018 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“...quotas shall not be ‘applied’ to law enforcement actions.” (however other applicable actions are not affected).

Too bad that’s not the applied rule for double-dub Merit promoting and memos, orders and activity demands such like these wouldn’t be written by HQ house mice on behalf of double-dubs.

1/05/2018 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Then why is there a quota to work VRI ?

1/05/2018 12:34:00 AM

Because it's VOLUNTARY special employment. If you don't like what the requirements are to work it, then you DO NOT have to sign up for it!

1/05/2018 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep in mind that many bosses that I have encountered know it's all bullshit. Nonetheless, traffic missions and the like are forced down from the top, meaning commander and above. It's preposterous to send a PDT message suggesting stops in subzero weather, but I'm sure this came from higher than the issuer. Top bosses enjoy having everyone else be the messenger so they can deny it or plead ignorance while hoping for the next promotion. What can they really do to you in 003? Aren't they short on personnel in every title code? The commander should be happy that people show up to work and are actually assigned there.

1/05/2018 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dumb dumb...

1/05/2018 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: (not letting this one die from yesterday)

A little help from detectives or older officers please:

A while ago during a reception, I tried to tie my necktie that unraveled. While in the restroom of the venue, a member of the wedding party was acting really suspicious in the stall adjacent to the mirror I was using.
I immediately kicked open the door dragged this mutt out and slapped some off duty zip cuffs on him and summoned the waitstaff for some duct tape. He wouldn’t stop yelling so I could call the local authorities.
As a seasoned millennial and I know this is really really off topic, but my question is:
How do I tie a half Windsor knot or you guys prefer a Four in Hand?
I’d like to have an idea on how to proceed. Thank you for any advice. And I’m not looking for “don’t wear a necktie to begin with.” or “why not wear a clip-on “.

1/05/2018 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Darlin has a social media officer?
WTF is that about??

1/05/2018 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come 330 (3rd watch) didnt include how to get a foot post and talk avout how doing no work and sucking up to political people gets you promoted. Unbelievable. Thank goodness EC is working in 003 that he can start his NEW foot post at 63rd / King drive

1/05/2018 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I'm from the D-unit but I didn't realize pulling someone over, letting them know their headlight was out and writing a TSS card was considered activity or revenue for the city. Seems to me in this climate of ACLU and ISR's traffic stops are the only safe bet for staying out of federal court these days.
1/05/2018 09:54:00 AM

Thanks Barney Miller. Please tell me you are a media troll. If not, you must not solve too many cases in the D Unit. Blue cards are the new contacts cards. Contact catds are what got us in trouble to begin with. Get the picture now stupid? Go back to Netflix. Signed lazy Wagon Guy

1/05/2018 05:36:00 PM  
Blogger 011 2nd Watch DOG said...

Anonymous said...
Perhaps 330 wasn’t a sergeant in May 2017 when the admin message came out. Perhaps the sergeant is a merit hack who didn’t have to know shit in order to “earn” a promotion. Just sayin’.

1/05/2018 07:31:00 AM

JS sure knew what family to marry into, zing!!!!!!

1/05/2018 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
y said...
009 commander wants more traffic stops! More blue cards! One p.o on the desk! Every able body in a squad car! Yet front office has not one empty cubicle and his hand picked social media officer walks around inside sans uniform. Hey but im sure that morale wont be effected...... Pffft


Social media officer? This has to be a joke

1/05/2018 10:36:00 AM
It sure is a joke.
But Darlin brought somebody over to 009 to be his “social media” officer so apparently the joke is on us chumps.

1/05/2018 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Ultimate Tactical Warrior said...

nonymous said...
OT: (not letting this one die from yesterday)

A little help from detectives or older officers please:

A while ago during a reception, I tried to tie my necktie that unraveled. While in the restroom of the venue, a member of the wedding party was acting really suspicious in the stall adjacent to the mirror I was using.
I immediately kicked open the door dragged this mutt out and slapped some off duty zip cuffs on him and summoned the waitstaff for some duct tape. He wouldn’t stop yelling so I could call the local authorities.
As a seasoned millennial and I know this is really really off topic, but my question is:
How do I tie a half Windsor knot or you guys prefer a Four in Hand?
I’d like to have an idea on how to proceed. Thank you for any advice. And I’m not looking for “don’t wear a necktie to begin with.” or “why not wear a clip-on “.
1/05/2018 03:16:00 PM

You have a gift my friend.

1/05/2018 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear seasoned millenial,
That is a joke, right? Or what are you smoking?
You have an uncle. His name is Google.
Ask Google.
(BTW, what prompted you to join society anyway?)

1/05/2018 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(65 ILCS 5/11-1-12)
Sec. 11-1-12. Quotas prohibited. A municipality may not require a police officer to issue a specific number of citations within a designated period of time. This prohibition shall not affect the conditions of any federal or State grants or funds awarded to the municipality and used to fund traffic enforcement programs.
A municipality may not, for purposes of evaluating a police officer's job performance, compare the number of citations issued by the police officer to the number of citations issued by any other police officer who has similar job duties. Nothing in this Section shall prohibit a municipality from evaluating a police officer based on the police officer's points of contact. For the purposes of this Section, "points of contact" means any quantifiable contact made in the furtherance of the police officer's duties, including, but not limited to, the number of traffic stops completed, arrests, written warnings, and crime prevention measures. Points of contact shall not include either the issuance of citations or the number of citations issued by a police officer.
This Section shall not apply to a municipality subject to Section 10-1-18.1 of this Code with its
own independent inspector general and law enforcement review authority.

1/05/2018 06:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe someone can forward this to Commander 3 I's from 015. His "let me lead ya" management style is effectively leading morale right into the nether regions. Unless of course you're one of his merit boys or office dollies.

1/05/2018 09:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember 0 zero is a number!

1/05/2018 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retiree here. I don’t get it. Just don’t pay any attention to this goof.

1/05/2018 11:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Barney Miller. Please tell me you are a media troll. If not, you must not solve too many cases in the D Unit. Blue cards are the new contacts cards. Contact catds are what got us in trouble to begin with. Get the picture now stupid? Go back to Netflix. Signed lazy Wagon Guy

1/05/2018 05:36:00 PM

Blue cards require probable cause. Contact cards did not. When you have probable cause for a stop, your chances of getting into legal trouble for that stop are greatly decreased. There's always a chance some moron you stop will find or create a reason to complain, but probable cause traffic stops are not the reason we got into trouble. I still don't like the department or its bosses trying to require a certain number of any kind of activity, but blue cards are about the safest piece of paper you can do nowadays. This whole "Get more blue cards" movement started because of some stupid study by the University of Wisconsin or some other institution of "higher learning." The theory was that traffic stops, and the accompanying flashing blue lights, deter crime, even when no citation is issued. It creates more visibility of the police, thus creating more of a deterrent effect on crime. Criminals aren't generally attracted to areas with flashing blue lights and police, so this theory is easily supported. It's similar to the impact zones that were so full of police running into each other that the crime mostly occurred elsewhere. Impact zones work, but only in deterring crime within the zone. No, I'm not the detective you were replying to, nor am I 330 3rd watch, but I just wanted to chime in while you were calling other people stupid while showing your own extreme stupidity. Stick to transports, wagon guy.

1/06/2018 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What makes a social media officer qualified to be in that position? Is it a biddable spot? No one in 009 ever had a chance to apply for that position.

1/06/2018 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Darlin total stroke hop IG reads this blog sends his ass into retirement like the rest of the gold star JAGS

1/06/2018 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
too well written for 330 to be sgt C.

1/05/2018 09:04:00 AM

Bubblehead sent him the script.

1/06/2018 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone please explain why the VRI requirements is not considered a quota?

1/06/2018 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for posting the state law, pay special attention to "points of contact" for evaluating officers. I know some of the young hard chargers think they are the only ones that ever did any work, and will consider me and guys with time a "dog" in their delusional chicago pd tv minds. However, this means Officer A cannot be compared to Officer B and because Officer A has more "activity" than Officer B, Officer A qualifies for voluntary overtime initiatives while Officer B does not even though Officer B has more seniority. No matter how you want to look at it, it is a former of punishment which violates state law. And for the younger guys hired after stats where searchable on the computer. No one looked for other guys stats to compare to theirs to see how great they were. No one cared as long as the guy showed up when you needed him. This whole numbers game is bs. They should make police baseball cards then and put our stats on the back. Ridiculous.

1/06/2018 03:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

OT: (not letting this one die from yesterday)

A little help from detectives or older officers please:

A while ago during a reception, I tried to tie my necktie that unraveled. While in the restroom of the venue, a member of the wedding party was acting really suspicious in the stall adjacent to the mirror I was using.
I immediately kicked open the door dragged this mutt out and slapped some off duty zip cuffs on him and summoned the waitstaff for some duct tape. He wouldn’t stop yelling so I could call the local authorities.
As a seasoned millennial and I know this is really really off topic, but my question is:
How do I tie a half Windsor knot or you guys prefer a Four in Hand?
I’d like to have an idea on how to proceed. Thank you for any advice. And I’m not looking for “don’t wear a necktie to begin with.” or “why not wear a clip-on “.

1/05/2018 03:16:00 PM"


Started my day off with a good laugh...

1/06/2018 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn’t Darlin live in La Grange??

1/06/2018 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


1/05/2018 12:34:00 AM

Because it's VOLUNTARY special employment. If you don't like what the requirements are to work it, then you DO NOT have to sign up for it!

1/05/2018 11:20:00 AM


Voluntary or not, it's still a quota. Shit...... technically, you just being the police is voluntary too.

1/06/2018 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Thank you for posting the state law, pay special attention to "points of contact" for evaluating officers. I know some of the young hard chargers think they are the only ones that ever did any work, and will consider me and guys with time a "dog" in their delusional chicago pd tv minds. However, this means Officer A cannot be compared to Officer B and because Officer A has more "activity" than Officer B, Officer A qualifies for voluntary overtime initiatives while Officer B does not even though Officer B has more seniority. No matter how you want to look at it, it is a former of punishment which violates state law. And for the younger guys hired after stats where searchable on the computer. No one looked for other guys stats to compare to theirs to see how great they were. No one cared as long as the guy showed up when you needed him. This whole numbers game is bs. They should make police baseball cards then and put our stats on the back. Ridiculous.


Why are stats so important to you? Or being compared to another officer. Does mint do any good when merit promotions come out. Stats and qualifications never matter. Getting into the front office, management spots, special spots, qualifications and stats don’t mean crap

1/06/2018 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Can someone please explain why the VRI requirements is not considered a quota?

My guess is that VRI is not part of the job requirements and is optional. Also it’s not covered under the contract

1/06/2018 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
What makes a social media officer qualified to be in that position? Is it a biddable spot? No one in 009 ever had a chance to apply for that position.

1/06/2018 12:35:00 AM

Are you still in the academy? When a spot like that is made up, the person is already chosen. When there is an opening in the front office, wait when the commander wants another person in the front office he doesn’t wait for an opening he just adds 1 or 2. You never get a chance to apply for those spots and it’s getting worse everyday.

1/06/2018 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

over 75% of captains , commanders were a merit sergeant , lieutenant
that is exactly why there is no enforcement of uniform , grooming standards , they do not have a clue 003 has more inside full duty officers hiding in caps , review , commanders office than it has working in beat cars

1/06/2018 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blue cards require probable cause. Contact cards did not. When you have probable cause for a stop, your chances of getting into legal trouble for that stop are greatly decreased. There's always a chance some moron you stop will find or create a reason to complain, but probable cause traffic stops are not the reason we got into trouble. I still don't like the department or its bosses trying to require a certain number of any kind of activity, but blue cards are about the safest piece of paper you can do nowadays. This whole "Get more blue cards" movement started because of some stupid study by the University of Wisconsin or some other institution of "higher learning." The theory was that traffic stops, and the accompanying flashing blue lights, deter crime, even when no citation is issued. It creates more visibility of the police, thus creating more of a deterrent effect on crime. Criminals aren't generally attracted to areas with flashing blue lights and police, so this theory is easily supported. It's similar to the impact zones that were so full of police running into each other that the crime mostly occurred elsewhere. Impact zones work, but only in deterring crime within the zone. No, I'm not the detective you were replying to, nor am I 330 3rd watch, but I just wanted to chime in while you were calling other people stupid while showing your own extreme stupidity. Stick to transports, wagon guy.
1/06/2018 12:27:00 AM

I dunno sport. Considering I just baited you into wasting your time into giving us a free history lesson on blue cards, that I already knew about, I'd say you are a bit more 'extremely stupid,' then myself. Contact Cards required no probable cause? Okay.... I guess you just stopped random old ladies on the street then and did contact cards on them for no reason. Thanks for contributing to the downfall of this department you moron. Signed Lazy Wagon Guy that loves transports and doesn't do blue cards and never did contact cards either

1/06/2018 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone should tell 230r and all Sgt n 002 on midnights
The same thing!!! What a joke!!! I refuse to do activity for them I
Do for myself!! Ohhhh and they threatened to take names!!
Hey sorry administrators in 002, put my name on all your
Lists!!

1/06/2018 01:28:00 PM  
Blogger Chip Bagg said...

It all depends on what the meaning of "quota" is. hehehe

1/06/2018 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Thank you for posting the state law, pay special attention to "points of contact" for evaluating officers. I know some of the young hard chargers think they are the only ones that ever did any work, and will consider me and guys with time a "dog" in their delusional chicago pd tv minds. However, this means Officer A cannot be compared to Officer B and because Officer A has more "activity" than Officer B, Officer A qualifies for voluntary overtime initiatives while Officer B does not even though Officer B has more seniority. No matter how you want to look at it, it is a former of punishment which violates state law. And for the younger guys hired after stats where searchable on the computer. No one looked for other guys stats to compare to theirs to see how great they were. No one cared as long as the guy showed up when you needed him. This whole numbers game is bs. They should make police baseball cards then and put our stats on the back. Ridiculous.
1/06/2018 03:34:00 AM

I would have zero stats except for 100 19P's this year. I guess that would make me a 'common,' card. Not very popular and not often traded by the Exempt children. 10 of my card isn't worth 1 millenial rookie card.

1/06/2018 04:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dunno sport. Considering I just baited you into wasting your time into giving us a free history lesson on blue cards, that I already knew about, I'd say you are a bit more 'extremely stupid,' then myself. Contact Cards required no probable cause? Okay.... I guess you just stopped random old ladies on the street then and did contact cards on them for no reason. Thanks for contributing to the downfall of this department you moron. Signed Lazy Wagon Guy that loves transports and doesn't do blue cards and never did contact cards either

1/06/2018 12:48:00 PM

If showing your ignorance and giving wrong information is considered baiting me, then good job. You win? Is your confusion about when to use then/than just more bait for me? And no, contact cards did not require probable cause. I never stopped random old ladies because I never had reasonable suspicion to stop them. Have you heard of that term? To be a lazy wagon guy, you probably need at least a few years on the job. How did you get this far without understanding the difference between reasonable suspicion and probable cause? Didn't we all have to be trained on the ISRs? How did you miss all the discussion of "reasonable articulable suspicion?" If you never did a contact card, then you've never really done any police work. Either that or you're trying to impress us all by saying you didn't do contact cards when you stopped people. Feel free to "bait" me whenever you need to learn something else. In the meantime, enjoy those transports.

1/06/2018 07:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Sarcasm said...

Hahaha come on now, you know Kevin dropped papers to retire so that means the fax message is knull and void

1/06/2018 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt shmeer retired , get over it

1/06/2018 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The superintendent for respect to the working police, should at least order the front office and inside house mouses in units at Holman to at the very least put a freakin uniform on. Our district has a front office female who hasn’t put a uniform on in 10 plus years. Ridiculous department. Yeah we’re semi military, sure we are

1/06/2018 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then why is there a quota to work VRI ?

1/05/2018 12:34:00 AM..

Because it's VOLUNTARY special employment. If you don't like what the requirements are to work it, then you DO NOT have to sign up for it!..........

And if you DON’T understand his point DO NOT comment. The point is there should be NO quota in police work. Period!

1/06/2018 10:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think some missed the following language of the statute, as did the First Deputy Superintendent, "This Section shall not apply to a municipality subject to Section 10-1-18.1 of this Code with its own independent inspector general and law enforcement review authority." The city of Chicago has an IG office and COPA; therefore, the state law does not apply to Chicago.

If you work 9 hours, do something.

1/06/2018 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dunno sport. Considering I just baited you into wasting your time into giving us a free history lesson on blue cards, that I already knew about, I'd say you are a bit more 'extremely stupid,' then myself. Contact Cards required no probable cause? Okay.... I guess you just stopped random old ladies on the street then and did contact cards on them for no reason. Thanks for contributing to the downfall of this department you moron. Signed Lazy Wagon Guy that loves transports and doesn't do blue cards and never did contact cards either


You only need reasonable suspicion to stop somebody for a contact card, not probable cause. How did u get this job??? I think the difference between probable cause and reasonable suspicion is taught Day 2 in the academy. Reasonable suspicion means you have the right to stop and investigate. Probable cause comes after and means you now have enough to make an arrest. Please retire or quit. Thanks sport..

1/07/2018 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISR requires reasonable suspicion not probable cause...go back to sleep now know nothing

1/07/2018 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You only need reasonable suspicion to stop somebody for a contact card, not probable cause. How did u get this job??? I think the difference between probable cause and reasonable suspicion is taught Day 2 in the academy. Reasonable suspicion means you have the right to stop and investigate. Probable cause comes after and means you now have enough to make an arrest. Please retire or quit. Thanks sport..
1/07/2018 12:08:00 AM

Oh jeez. Did you just quote and respond to me twice to give the illusion that you are multiple posters trying to gang up on me lol?! Wow, that's pretty lame sport. Try changing your writing style a little bit more then or at least don't repeat the same things like a parrot. Signed Lazy Wagon Guy....winning

1/07/2018 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The superintendent for respect to the working police, should at least order the front office and inside house mouses in units at Holman to at the very least put a freakin uniform on. Our district has a front office female who hasn’t put a uniform on in 10 plus years. Ridiculous department. Yeah we’re semi military, sure we are

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Where is Holman?? Guys and gals have wore uniforms for various reasons. Just because you are probably a lazy, miserable person don’t try and bring others down with you. FYI a lot of people in Homan are hard working and yes they also have dogs. Just like every other place in this department. HQ needs to be drained if you ask me.

1/07/2018 12:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do “social media” officers have to wear a uniform?

1/07/2018 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh jeez. Did you just quote and respond to me twice to give the illusion that you are multiple posters trying to gang up on me lol?! Wow, that's pretty lame sport. Try changing your writing style a little bit more then or at least don't repeat the same things like a parrot. Signed Lazy Wagon Guy....winning

1/07/2018 12:24:00 PM

Nope. I don't need to give the illusion that multiple people disagree with you. That's because you're wrong, and other people with more sense than you know it. I don't call people "sport," and I don't use triple question marks. Did you just quote an HIV positive drug addict with mental problems to illustrate how you're winning? Feel free to disagree with me, and the others pointing out how wrong you are, but that doesn't make you right. It just makes you oblivious and ignorant... and dangerous to anyone who takes your advice. It's a good thing you're just a lazy wagon guy so you can minimize your interactions with people who aren't already in custody. Otherwise, you'd end up in court for not understanding when you can and can't stop someone. Good luck with those transports, and that complete lack of understanding of the most fundamental components of policing.

1/07/2018 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s Lt. Kohnen from 016 and he has 5 open CR#s going right now. He is tryin to negotiate a deal so he can retire by March w/o serving time out right since some are VERY serious and would result in BIG suspension time.....

1/08/2018 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we don't have quotas, we have expectations

1/09/2018 04:04:00 AM  

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