FOP Protest
- The Fraternal Order of Police is urging the rank-and-file police officers it represents to show up in force at the May 23 City Council meeting to underscore the union’s claim that Mayor Rahm Emanuel has “turned his back on the police.”
“Emanuel has turned his back on the police. He has put police officers and public in danger. Now, it’s time to confront him at the City Council meeting,” the union said.
In a flier distributed to its members, the union said buses will be leaving at 8:30 a.m. — from 51st and Wentworth, FOP headquarters at 1412 W. Washington and from Belmont and Western — to transport police officers en masse to City Hall.
“The Fraternal Order of Police is calling on all members to attend the Chicago City Council meeting on Wednesday, May 23, to demand that Mayor Rahm Emanuel back the police,” the flier states.
“This move by the FOP comes in response to the Chicago Police Board’s decision to put Officer Robert Rialmo in a no-pay status for a 2015 fatal shooting that was deemed ‘unjustified’ by COPA. Superintendent Eddie Johnson, experts and the FOP said the shooting was clearly justified,” the union flier states.
There should be fliers up on the FOP bulletin board already. Pack the buses, pack the Hall. We encourage retirees to show up, too. Let's make this happen.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
111 Comments:
FOP just realized the Rham and Kidney Pie does not have the poleece back-- how many years late are they?
Every cop vehicle in the City ought to pull up outside City Hall, park in the street and march in to the meeting. Block every single street all over the Loop. BLM and other groups can do it w/o any consequences so it ought to be just fine.
I'm in; remember we are in contract negotiations. Let's stand up to Rahm and the hand picked puppet Special Ed! I hope we get a big turnout like we did with the march around city hall!
I'm not sure if anyone else caught it but the department updated the police officers Bill of Rights. In it they allow Copa to decide whether or not to let officers know when they have video of an incident and to decide whether or not to let that officer see the video. Then Copa can charge officers with a rule 14 violation if they think the officer will fully made a false statement. And it's up to Copa to decide what willfully means
Rahm talks a lot of mess and thinks we will fall in line like Special Ed. I can't wait to be there.
The FOP can butt heads with Mayor Rahm, but they can't win. The Mayor is to smart and to powerful, and nobody likes the cops.
Embarrass that little asshole.
The flop trying to save its skin. Well a little to late, thanks fop. You guys are really shit when it comes to being a bargaining unit. Always behind the curve and the outright lies, remember the Philadelphia plan . Members weren't gonna pay anything for health insurance with the union running it after taking it over from the city. Remember guys, while you are their protesting ask your union leaders important relevant questions at hand like what happens with certainty if the chgo police pension fund goes bust? Or since the city is firing officers on past beefs which the flop fucked up on since the city wasn't supposed to keep cr numbers longer than 5 yrs. are we ever gonna close this loophole? Decertifying the fop or becoming a fair share member are real possibilities, wait until the pension fund goes bust and gets radically diminished - then you will understand why every boss is making his relative and friend a merit boss cause they know what's coming. Wake up people, the fop hasn't done one thing for the membership except divide it and cause bitterness amongst the ranks of the old and new coppers. All done at the city behest, the membership always gets screwed over. Time to dump the flop.
Political stunt by fop, too too many good coppers getting fu--ed over, fop starting too get worried. Start planning a real labor strategy fop, stop wasting time.
I wonder if we can impeach or recall the the fop president for inaction.
You need some street theater to attract the public's eye, like the left wing democrats/socialists use. Protest signs, banners, pamplets. Puppets than represent COPA and the City Council. Handheld loudspeakers that can be held in front of the faces of these politicians just like certain protesters, and one who is running for mayor, use on the police at demonstrations. You need the buckets and sticks for rhythm and chanters to deliver rhyming verses. Maybe some falling out on the floor of the Council & Mayor's office. Don't forget to borrow that big blow up rat from the Teamsters! Ask youself how many years have you seen these tactics used and the news media always covers it.
Anyone else afraid of expressing political opinion and getting a complaint logged against them as Alderman Arena has shown is possible to do to an officer!
About fucking time FOP, then march around the hall. Expect the fuck to leave town that day.
Expect the place filled up with alderman ghetto rats and no space for the police.
It's ON! Lieutenant John Garrido leads the charge against 45th Ward Alderman John Arena and Mayor Rahm Emmanuel! Soon to be Mayor!!!
FOP doesn't do shit for the retired Police fuck you they threw us under the bus
I'll be there. Coming from Iowa so don't let the bus leave without me.
This will be fop flop. Cops talk a lot but do little. It will be play right into Rahms hands.
Yet half of you nitwits are still running and gunning. There ya go. See what hard work earns ya. And people still want on this job. Is the economy that bad?
I hope Rahm loses the next election! I really hate this asshole carpet bagger!
Fop is like the CTA I don't use them either Fuck FOP
Finally!!!
J.J.
Well.....Now that Shit for Brains knows that we're coming, wanna bet he won't show.....
You will be lucky if 100 of your members show up. They like to complain, but they aren’t going to do anything else besides cry on this blog and to every member of the public who will listen.
Rahm will have his civilian traffic aides write tickets on the busses.
About time!!
In a flier distributed to its members, the union said buses will be leaving at 8:30 a.m. — from 51st and Wentworth, FOP headquarters at 1412 W. Washington and from Belmont and Western — to transport police officers en masse to City Hall.
Rest assure not a single MERIT will be on a bus...
Frannie being the mouthpiece for FOP and CPD?
Now I've seen it all. Thought her main job in life was humping Rahm's junk.
He's done more than turned his back on us. He is actually working against us.
Would that he only turned his back. But this guy schemes and plots to cut us down every chance he gets.
Amazing , the FOP finally makes a public move of substance and people here are gonna bitch about it? Go get your fucking shine box already and let the adults go and show the pricks what's what here with a little show of how the Members feel
A bold move.
A RIGHTOUS move.
NOW MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Otherwise, Rahm will laugh at the lack of concern that the rank and file show.
5/16/2018 01:58:00 AM
Absolutely! Its about time for police to show the public. Police have more public support than you think. Use signs, it's for the children, use kids with signs, save my daddy, Rahm wants to kill us, etc.
Nope - not for me...too little TOO late.
I rather we march not heFOP to switch to Teamsters.
I've never been to a Chicago City Hall protest. Please give us some tips. It's vital that we more "conservative" folks get out of our comfort zones and go places the Left tends to dominate:
City Halls
College Campuses
Labor Unions
PUT UP OR SHUT UP BOYS AND GIRLS , Let the city and drive by "FAKE NEWS " channels cover the story (Force them to by a great show of POs ) Other wise you've have blown a great chance to get the word out to the City of OUR concerns and hopefully embarrass the little JAGOFF, EMANUEL . Bye the way ,When is the " Trial of the century " supposed to start ? That alone should kill the JAGOFF, EMANUEL'S chances for any FUTURE political ambitions .. Oh bye the way did I tell you EMANUEL IS JAGOFF. WHAT SAY YOU COPPERS YOU GOT THE BALLS TO FACE THIS JAGOFF, EMANUEL ? Will see won't we ! Im retired and if I can drive in from Arkansas,surely you can get your lazy butts over to Union Hall !
Yea no thanks. Went to the one a few years back when we marched around city hall. What did that get us? Oh yea, nothing.
And your pension is underfunded and NO healthcare when you retire at 50.
I'm not sure if anyone else caught it but the department updated the police officers Bill of Rights. In it they allow Copa to decide whether or not to let officers know when they have video of an incident and to decide whether or not to let that officer see the video. Then Copa can charge officers with a rule 14 violation if they think the officer will fully made a false statement. And it's up to Copa to decide what willfully means
Read more carefully. You are leaving out the part that a rule 14 violation cannot be charged against an officer for anything shown in the video, unless the officer has seen the video first
GReat move!
hope to see you all there.
In Illinois, the Police Officer's Bill of Rights is actually law.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=736&ChapterID=11
Each illegal that votes with that new Chicago ID cancels out your vote IF you are even registered to vote.
Pls register.
https://ova.elections.il.gov
What color Tshirt should i wear?
The teachers wear red may be blue.
A sea of blue....
Should i cover my face too like all the other protestors????
Eight years ago when I came on the job, I was proud and loved being a Police Officer. It's time for me to look in another direction, even just being on the job for eight short years, this job has changed for the worst. (Obama effect) I've convinced my wife and other family members that we have to move out of this state. Would like to remain a Police Officer, but in another local. I have lots of friends on the job that are vested and not interested in leaving, but with only eight years I'm gone. I can't see it getting better, the Dem's are in charge and that's the problem.
I will take a pass it not safe downtown just send my pension cheek
Fuck fop
We should protest the FOP
It's not safe downtown fuck that send the check don't be late shopping in Indiana
Chickenshit Rahm will likely leave town and be in LA before that day.
Oddsmakers place your bets.
FakeNewsMedia silent.
“FOP doesn't do shit for the retired Police fuck you they (sic) threw us under the bus”
(5/16/2018 04:36:00 AM)
One thing I’d like FOP to do is try to get Overtime pensionable, especially since that’s one way Rahm has been screwing over Retirees and the Pension.
Everybody was once the ACTIVE Police.
What you do as an Active Member eventually helps your Retired Status.
There would be no Retirees if there are no Actives.
Everybody hopes to become Retired.
Retirees that gave up/gave in did so while Active.
I applaud All the Active Retirees and the Active members willing to lead the effort.
We are always the Police.
Get from under the bus and join the crusade.
FatHeadEd is quoted in the paper as saying he doesn’t understand the FOP’s position and feels they’re wrong.
I guess that’s what came out of Ed’s mouth when Rahm , his ventriloquist, moved Ed’s mouth.
Instead of complaining about this idea, stfu and be at this meeting. Now is the time to quit hiding behind your computer screen and actually do something
will there be free food?
FOP is useless! All we do is pay fees and get nothing for it! You call the FOP and they are nothing but rude and ignorant. Im a fuckin paying member and expect more.
Anyone who runs for any spot in the FOP is just like any politician..liars in it for themselves and the money! How soon the forget where they came from. We should get rid of lodge 7 for and better representation. Graham you are the worst yet!
May 23 is FOP "Gun Day."
They have people from all the
gun manufacturers inspect &
clean your duty weapon.
the fake priest is at it again, couldn't paste facebook post
Rham doesn't give a flying fuck!! crime isn't going to stop anytime soon because of us or you stupid hairlgel tide pod eaters, stop chasing dude!, your taxes will still go up and up, the sky is blue. REALITY!!! now go back to your fetal positions, let the city burn.
It truly is impossible to police now. Every call has impossible standards to achieve. This is not an exaggeration. The typical call in a slower district like 022 or 016 is a mental with a weapon that is involved in some sort of financial crime that also participates is online pornography while smoking marijuana without a prescription.
Just digest that and then realize your being evaluated on camera.
America
Let this sink in....
Anonymous said...
I'm not sure if anyone else caught it but the department updated the police officers Bill of Rights. In it they allow Copa to decide whether or not to let officers know when they have video of an incident and to decide whether or not to let that officer see the video. Then Copa can charge officers with a rule 14 violation if they think the officer will fully made a false statement. And it's up to Copa to decide what willfully means
5/16/2018 12:10:00 AM
crapparelli doesnt care about any of this...he will retire if it gets too hot for him.....remember this...he was booted out of the fop office twice for being a do nothing but still managed to win re election for treasurer(again and again and again)
so all you po-leeces that voted him in again and again.......your getting what you wanted.....which is NOTHING for you, ALL for him
"But... But...
Aren't you Cops supposed to abide by your
'Gentleman's Agreement' to not get angry
or to fight back? The public will be upset
because you wild-assed Coppers and your
'too powerful' Union are making noise
about protesting at City Hall."
The ONLY way for this 'protest' to have
ANY positive and meaningful impact is for
the upright and law abiding taxpayers to
come out in force with us to tell Rahm to
cease this very unnecessary war against The
Police that he precipitated by his very own
craven and deceitful nature.
His P.R./Media Agit-Prop propeller heads are
all over everything trying to spin talk of Rahm's
'unlikeability' as nothing more than pouting in the
face of his 'decisively making things happen to push
Chicago forward.'
This:
These propeller heads try to give short shrift to
the one native-born Midwestern trait in order to
procure a pass for Rahm and his antics...
God knows we upright Midwesterners of the large
urban area persuasion do esteem men of action
and the irate, no shit taking ass-kickers
like the Cops of yore and the like...
We do heartily disdain a smug and patently disdainful
m/fer who has managed to gain access to the keys of
power for power and privilege's sake.
We do heartily disdain a nakedly ambitious, ever
grasping, tone-deaf m/fer and those who tend to
orbit such m/fers.
To say nothing of those who have demonstrated an
appalling lack of discernment and common man
decency.
Rahm KNEW that if he were to ever stand a chance
here in Chicago, he needed to activate the leftist
media and the perpetual grievance constituencies
against The Police in order to drive a wedge
between The Police and everybody else to divert
attention and focus away from his criminal financial
and legislative doings.
And here we are at this stage in the game.
Public good will has been peeled away from
The Police and lavished upon the rampant
Dude Inc.
Heh...
The Silent Majority says:
"We support you guys so don't turn your backs
on us and give the city to Dude!"
You Silent Majority types SHOULD be all
in Rahm Emanuel's ass like cheap tissue
since YOU'RE the supposed majority and
he was ELECTED AND RE-ELECTED BY YOU.
Lack of due diligence aside...
Rahm played you savvy and streetwise
'native' Chicagoans for a bunch of saps.
As it is, Chicago is chock full of pretenders
and carpetbaggers from a bunch of other places.
Which explains why there is such a disconnect
between those of us who have the innate knowledge
and collective muscle memory of what made Chicago
a great (but not perfect) place, and those who
seek only to put their agenda in place.
...Idle thoughts over a cup of good, strong coffee.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Cant wait to hear all the members excuses on why they can't attend this very important event. This is a perfect start (not the only action that needs to be taken) to the membership showing unity and fighting back. Easy to complain, much harder to take action! Now is the time as the CPD still has a slim chance to be saved. VERTY SLIM!
Failing to have a good showing for this event could actually backfire. It will let everyone know that the brotherhood really exists or is just a myth.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone else afraid of expressing political opinion and getting a complaint logged against them as Alderman Arena has shown is possible to do to an officer!
5/16/2018 02:05:00 AM
If you are a police officer and you are afraid of this I certainly dont want to work with a chickenshit like you. Really you wrote that question. I find it hard to believe that you are a true police officer.
The Old Guard (Dean Angelo's Guys) who are still in the FOP finally lost to the new guard. The new guard was voted in leadership positions in the last election. Kevin Graham is afraid of his shadow. There is a power struggle going on within the leadership of the FOP. The old guard does not want to rock the boat and behind the scene are working to undermine Graham. The new guard has been pressing Graham to get dirty but Graham is afraid that Rahm will not give us anything in the new contract. Graham is soo afraid of coming up empty in this contract negotiations. There has been many vocal arguments between the old guard and the new guard. Graham has come to realize that the rank and file lost faith in him. Two of the Vice-Presidents want to go all out but the old guard has up until recently has Graham ear. For everyone sake, let us hope that Graham got the memo: Rahm is prime to be taken out.
All done at the city behest, the membership always gets screwed over. Time to dump the flop.
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How would changing to a different union change anything. The city has all kinds of powers and inducements to make all the unions do what they want.
The FOP can butt heads with Mayor Rahm, but they can't win. The Mayor is to smart and to powerful, and nobody likes the cops.
5/16/2018 12:45:00 AM
Bologna! We can beat TD 9.5! If he is in a runoff, he is toast and he knows it. It might not be liked very much, but our hope to be rid of the villainous TD 9.5 is GMAC in a runoff. Grit your teeth, hold your nose, cross your eyes, but do whatever and do the right thing to launch TD 9.5 into the pages of Chicago history. It will be a wonderful day to see TD 9.5 heading out of town because he was never really a resident of our town. Remember, he has to take the wedding dress with him and NEVER, EVER say his name out loud and quickly, three times in a row!
Want to read something outrageous? Read the community consent decree proposal. Police management and policy are turned over to "self appointed" community groups. One portion calls for elected representatives of the community --BUT-- excludes (section 186)active/retired police officers, their children, spouses, and grandchildren. So I guess we and our families don't count. Isn't that discrimination based on occupation? Family members can't run for office? But I forget liberals have their own rules.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/community-groups-make-demands-on-cpd-consent-decree-the-buck-is-stopping-here/
FOP PBPA WAKE UP!
After what the "WHORE MAYOR" did to the retiree's and widows medical benefits there should not be standing room in the street!
After what the "WHORE MAYOR" did to the police department manpower they should hang him in effigy out in front of shitty hall!
And don't forget about the irresponsible alder-thieves who have done nothing to help "ANY" real problem the city is suffering and should all be booted from office for just negligence alone without even considering nepotism, cronyism and all the other isms known and unknown!
It shouldn't just be police, but anybody who is fed up with all the BS the democ"RATS" have pulled since mumbles (the bbbbiiiigggg POS) left office!
5/16/2018 02:05:00 AM
Anonymous said...
About fucking time FOP, then march around the hall. Expect the fuck to leave town that day.
Expect the place filled up with alderman ghetto rats and no space for the police.
5/16/2018 02:41:00 AM
FILL THE SIDEWALKS AND THE STREETS AND SEE IF THE MAINSTREAM (POS) MEDIA COVERS IT!!!!
If not then we know who the real enemies are for sure!!!!
News
Bill would make assaulting rail crew members a federal crime:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-amtrak-shooting-bill-20180516-story.html
So Tammy duck worth has this bill pending, gee Tammy how about really stepping up make it a federal crime for assaulting law enforcement this would stop so many officers from getting hurt, the thugs and illegals knowing they would be doing federal time in a real prison away from home! You Tammy along with Richard that these is zero penalty in crook county for assaulting law enforcement, heck tommy even has pizza party for the inmates,as the judges follow the orders of the boss Toni to let them roam freely to maim and murder more!
Now you make the laws, let's make Chicago great again "just do it!" FOP what do you think? Kevin, Marty, care to chime in?
FOP,
are you canceling Gun day, 23 May?
I've convinced my wife and other family members that we have to move out of this state. Would like to remain a Police Officer,
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Chicago PD does not have a real good reputation. Unless you have someone they know to vouch for you it may be a lot harder to find something these days than it would have been a few years ago. No one wants to bring on lawsuits and negative attention and CPD is seen by most of the country as very troubled. Why take chances you don't have to.
One tactic could be the truth. Just tell them when they ask why you are leaving CPD that you just can't take the cesspool that CPD has become anymore.
Police have more public support than you think.
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Depends on who "you" and "public" are.
Public support for the police is at its lowest that I can ever remember. And I am not talking among BLM types. I am talking just average law abiding taxpayers. Some of the highly publicized things that individual cops have done where their departments have declined to take appropriate action against them have turned a lot of average citizens against police.
Expand your horizon past other cops and cop families, and assorted groupies and sycophants, and you will see it is a totally different game out there today then ten years ago.
There are still some places where that bond of trust has been stretched but not broken yet. And a lot of departments are working hard on this issue. But where it is gone past the breaking point it is hard to see how it can be undone.
Fuck Arena. He's a bitch. FOP, more action is needed. This does nothing. What would a day in Chicago look like with no officers? Come on. Get radical.
Read more carefully. You are leaving out the part that a rule 14 violation cannot be charged against an officer for anything shown in the video, unless the officer has seen the video first
5/16/2018 08:15:00 AM
Really? Cool. Let's test that theory, you first...and let me know how much you want me to throw in at your 10-1 benefit.
FACEBOOK.
Father Michael Pfleger
8 hrs ·
The FOP are planning to protest the decision to put Robert Rialmo (who should be in Jail) on a no-pay status REALLY? one of the reasons there is so much distrust between the Community and the Police is because the FOP Defends and Supports the Police whether they are right or wrong.....and demand contracts that make it nearly impossible to punish bad cops!......The FOP continues to be an obstacle to Civilian and Law enforcement relationships and they need to sit down and shut up!
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Hey Pfleger...you think the police are ALWAYS wrong.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone else afraid of expressing political opinion and getting a complaint logged against them as Alderman Arena has shown is possible to do to an officer!
Been hearing this forever. Has any officer actually received a CR. From what I read, Arena sent information in to COLA and asked them to review the content of the comments made on Facebook to see if any CPD rules and regulations were violated. Never heard if there were actually 31 CR’s issued
I like "Every cop vehicle in the City ought to pull up outside City Hall, park in the street and march in to the meeting."
Every unit should transmit "officer needs assistance" as they get to city hall. You do need assistance!
Block every single street around city hall.
So if you block all the streets whose going to stop you. The police? Doubt it. CFD doubt it. Sherries deputies? Doubt it. State police? Possibly. Will be very interesting and would sur get national news overage. Please have an articulate spokesman for national news groups. Be sure to call Hannity might get him for a remote report. Rahm won't like this on national news. There goes his 55 million tourists.
The protest should be about the promotional process, about the cheaters, and the Merit process. Where is the anger people!!!!
Anonymous said...
FACEBOOK.
Father Michael Pfleger
8 hrs ·
The FOP are planning to protest the decision to put Robert Rialmo (who should be in Jail) on a no-pay status REALLY? one of the reasons there is so much distrust between the Community and the Police is because the FOP Defends and Supports the Police whether they are right or wrong.....and demand contracts that make it nearly impossible to punish bad cops!......The FOP continues to be an obstacle to Civilian and Law enforcement relationships and they need to sit down and shut up!
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Hey Pfleger...you think the police are ALWAYS wrong.
5/16/2018 03:45:00 PM
LETS TALK ABOUT THE PRIESTS SCREWING LITTLE BOYS FIRST!
Waste of time
Why even bother to go to city hall and walk around or protest the powers to be. Ladies and Gents, do you actually believe the machine, constituents, media whores, etc. are going to bend over especially the machine, you guys have really been smoking crack. What our dumb as fuck FOP leaders should organize is a blue flu memorial day weekend, can you imagine the carnage over that weekend with no Po-Po's out there. Think of "The Purge" but for real. Command staff in all districts is already denying time off for that weekend. Already know a ton of first responders going on the medical for that weekend, fuck this city, let the savages take it. Myself you guys will probably catch me on the top of my roof sniping any coons who even dare and get close to my castle, LOL....
HEY.....”too little too late”. That’s what your wife says!
Take your big dumb ass and fight for what you want.
Officers are coming together to show a united front.
It’s easy to bitch and moan. That’s one thing we are
really good at. If you and others do NOTHING, you
are no better than the administration trying to ruin us.
Please please just show up we need numbers.....send a message and the only way to do that is numbers.
Can't shopping in Indiana
Anonymous Anonymous said...
FOP doesn't do shit for the retired Police fuck you they threw us under the bus
5/16/2018 04:36:00 AM
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And then backed up, and did again, just for the hell of it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone else afraid of expressing political opinion and getting a complaint logged against them as Alderman Arena has shown is possible to do to an officer!
5/16/2018 02:05:00 AM
If you are a police officer and you are afraid of this I certainly dont want to work with a chickenshit like you. Really you wrote that question. I find it hard to believe that you are a true police officer.
Wake up and smell the coffee ese
Some of you crime fighters actually think you're making a difference, you're not in this shithole city were the democrats rule. We all puppets also, just like the stuperintendent. Stay Fetal and collect you're paycheck the 1st and 16th and try to save or invest as much money as you can till you retire or get another job. This is the city that the democrats want, let the savages rome in packs all over. The days of policing are long gone, that ol saying "To protect and Serve", fuck that. Let the mayors constituents go out and patrol and make a difference. If the city wants me to be hands off for the money they pay me, so be it. Many of us old timers have less than 8 maybe 5 more years to go. With that being said, for all you young fucks that want to last on this job "STAY COMATOSE" till the machine changes, if not you guys will be the next "Bozo the Clown" being paraded in court and the fucken media whores. And to end my rant, some hard chargers just never quit, God Bless Them......:)
....But where it is gone past the breaking point it is hard to see how it can be undone.
5/16/2018 03:21:00 PM
Another fine example of the subtlety of skullduggery.
I could do a point by point dissection of your devious comment, but, it would be overly cruel, even to the likes of you.
So, in it's stead, I submit the following:
1. The purpose, the function, the requirement, for there to be those so employed to enforce the law is founded in the purpose for there being laws.
2. The purpose for there to be laws, (which then require the enforcement of, which, thus, requires the employment of those so employed to do the enforcing), is founded in the nature of the human species. Said nature is not significantly different than the nature of all other species of living creatures.
3. This 'trust' which you not so subtlely imply has been 'lost' has, in fact, never truly existed in the form in which you imply it has. Not Ever.
4. What has existed, in the realm of trust, is that thoe employed to enforce the laws, (as made by those who have been, theorectically, entrusted with making laws consistent with the Laws of God), will strive, to the best of each officer's ability, to primarily enforce those laws, whose violation of, results in the most grievious harms to other humans, giving these unlawful acts their highest priority.
5. The trust you speak of being 'lost' beyond your capacity to imagine recovery of, is actually that tenuous trust in the honesty, sincerity and moralities of those elected to both make the laws, adjudicate those laws, and manage the governmental agencies authorized to enforce and adjudicate those laws. Thus, the dwindling trust here is of the political putz population which has degraded their duties, betrayed the trust inherently imbued within the citizens' understandings of the nature of the American form of human governing and diminished said trust to it now being a consistent mistrust of the majority of political creatures who, (though they often believe otherwise), are just as much a species of human creature as all of us are, (albeit at, or near, the least likely of being capable of surviving by the honest efforts of their own two hands).
6. Your comment, and the many of similiar content and intent, (simi - liar), illustrates the deceptive desires of those who have thoroughly earned the mistrust of the trustworthy.
7. The commonly held misunderstandings, amongst those prone to embracing any to all of the Seven Deadly Sins, are chosen misunderstandings, even when promoted by deceivers such as yourself. What has been chosen can be unchosen. That is the essence of Free Will within this particular form of existense, (though, what has been done can never truly be undone, also an essential element of the nature of this form of existence.).
This world, this Creation, is perilous enough in it's Nature; those existing within it do not need further feckless fucks making it even worse than it is.
The designed nature of Creation fucks everybody plenty; we created creatures do not need to assist nature in it's endeavors.
OT Confirmed reports say aldera$$ Arena showed up at the 19th police district insisting to park his car in their lot to attend a cub game. When they said no he pulled the don't you know who I am saying. Was listed on the 41st ward concerned citizen blog on facebook. Look it up
The chant of the day will be"Rham the rat" "Rham the rat".
So will all of the wrongly fired coppers get jobs back? Back pay? Huge well deserved settlement and sue pos loris pathetic ass?
Emanuel allies demand ‘independent review’ of Lightfoot’s Police Board cases
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/emanuel-allies-demand-independent-review-of-lightfoots-police-board-cases/
Maybe feds can finally get involved and drain the dirty corrupt swamp completely!
The flop is not a union , its a fraternal organization. Changing to the teamsters would allow other locals to actually strike and picket on our behalf if we joined their union . imagine 5000 18 wheelers abandoned downtown blocking traffic on 3-july. Besides the members don't know this fact.The president of fop can appoint anyone to other offices, like vice-president or sgt at arms, whether a candidate wins the election for that office or not. thats right shocking isn't it. Now you know why the membership gets destoyed in every contract, because they are all in it. The flop sold us out on the one federal court case they won on officers getting time off work. The federal judge told the city, " the officer earned the time , he gets to take off when he wants, chgo go out and pay overtime to officers who want the o.t." We had them, what does the flop do , they sold the membership out by coming up with the officer exchange program which does nothing for addressing the real issue of an officer burning his time when he wants toobut saves the city money in ot payments. STUPID , STUPID FLOP. Most flop officers i hear are merit, go figure. I mean really, who screws over their own membership, they should be removed from office ,like they did to shields.
FOP LODGE 7 , is a den of incompetence. Graham, our president has lost complete control of the board. Murray has an IQ just north of moron. Prieb is a self promoting hack using Lodge resources to put his own personal book together. Aguilar's a know-it-all that has never been a policeman on any level outside of bitching for 8 hours a day. Donahue is running the show and we all know how that goes historically. Graham is a puppet; a great big fat puppet.
None of them get along and none of them have even similar goals regarding our Union or it's agenda. Try and even get one of these assholes on the fucking phone. The idiocy is running rampant and we're paying them Captain's wages. That's fucking disgusting and we should be ashamed of ourselves.
Signed
A fucking member
Hey Fr. Phelger. You wanna make a difference in CPD. You want better , more professional CPD officers. Start protesting the thirty percent merit positions given away to unqualified , underserving promotees and watch the scandals fall. After all its earned not given and something about leadership, integrity, truthfulness. Yeah right , words- just words to fool the new kids on this job and the public. Can't wait for the 100 degree days and see the leadership skills of the merits. PREDICTION #1- Michigan ave. to become jane byrnes state street mall in 4 years or less. PREDICTION #2- A poor soul gets capped not too far away from the pritzger mansion on astor st. Yes i am qualified to make these predictions, i used to work in the crystal ball unit.
m retired and if I can drive in from Arkansas,surely you can get your lazy butts over to Union Hall ! I will take the CTA in and meet you at City Hall.
Well the way I see it, we only have two choices: stand up collectively for a change even though yeah the FOP has been nutless for the most part in the past. But at least Kevin is trying. I never remember Deano publicly going against the machine. I don’t get it why can’t we take a page from the NYPD playbook? Those guys have the balls to stick together. OR we might as well as be content with being passive and submissive and allow city hall to just distamntle this dept and it’s membership to whatever the aclu and copa wants. Just remember if you decide to take a position of indifference don’t ever complain about how shitty things are. EVER. Just eat your shit sandwich, collect your pay and look for a new job possibly. And please please don’t ever regard to anyone on this job no matter how hard charging or tactical warrior looking they are in the hood, as The Real Police. Lol. Especially if they don’t have the balls to stick together and do something to protect the membership. Guys on this job who don’t worry about the politics that affect us all because they’re too busy generating CB numbers for the bosses are like hired security goons that work for their master without being able to think for themselves. Only the Real Police act like Real Police. Part of real brotherhood. Again the example: NYPD. We had a commander from our ranks die in the line of duty as a direct result of shitty crook county criminal conviction politics. A good man who left a young family behind. The ultimate sacrifice for being the police. And we still are fucking divided on whether to band together?
Guess we’ll always be second city. The weasel laughs every time we bitch and complain and are salty because he knows we won’t do shit about it.
I read all of these fuck the FOP., FOP don’t do shit the fuck the retirees comments ..funny nobody but the same faces at monthly meetings. ..fucking keyboard cowboys, Sack up and come to a meeting step up to mike and astound us with your brilliance. Any copper that doesn’t show up should have Sanctions placed against them by the lodge . Too busy to sacrifice a couple hours?...GFU. A big reason we get fucked is we have no unity so you have no power.i guarantee a couple thousand coppers marching will give the negotiating team some political capital...2000 cops have a sphere of influence of at least 50,000. Easy to bitch anonymously
Where was Michael Phlager when all the priests were screwing the little boys. Never heard him complain one bit. But with the police he has all the time in the world. Time for FOP to march on his parish and the cardinal's home demanding some action for his racist statements.
This is what they want included in CPD's reform package.
http://www.macarthurjustice.org/uploads/rsmjc/documents/chicago_community_consent_decree_final.pdf
So after all the complaining, most of you are now making excuses for not getting off your asses for a few hours to make a statement
(at the very least). This election is going to be close, if there was ever a time for a show of solidarity, it is now. I marched on city hall, with hundreds of other officers and it was a proud moment. All of the media outlets covered the March and city hall had to take notice, even if they won’t admit it. This mayor is counting on us being sheep, and will continue to lead us to slaughter, if we remain weak. Say what you want about BLM and these other left wing protestors, but they show up in significant numbers, make noise, and ultimately get heard. Stop making excuses and show up, stand up. The public is being fed a false narrative, they are only hearing one side of the argument, they need to know cops are fed up with being villainized. It’s a few hours of your time, show up!
Yes, let's do this and all kinds of activities where we challenge the street, City, universities, media outlets - we challenge the turf of the worst anti Police, pro criminal, Cult Marxists.
Sure, it usually looks hopeless, but look what happened in New York City. NYC elected a law and order Republican mayor Guliani and the city was cleaned up, civilization restored.
So it could conceivably happen here.
But, we need some celebrity - a beloved Chicago sports hero, someone wildly known and loved or respected like Donald Trump. We can't have a savior who's an intellectual policy WONK.
And please, everybody - forget about Libertarian Constitutionalists - this city is a 3rd world, madhouse, some tough guy ruler needs to restore order.
Rahm wants the cops protesting—Lightfoot is a danger to him.
Rahm might even drive one of the FOP buses.
If you recall, the last time we marched on city hall was the same day that Blagojevich was arrested. That news kind of took over everything and we didn't hear much about our march in the news outlets. Maybe this time we'll get more coverage, or even better, another politician will be lead away in handcuffs.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So will all of the wrongly fired coppers get jobs back? Back pay? Huge well deserved settlement and sue pos loris pathetic ass?
Emanuel allies demand ‘independent review’ of Lightfoot’s Police Board cases
Would be nice, but I doubt that’s going to happen.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT Confirmed reports say aldera$$ Arena showed up at the 19th police district insisting to park his car in their lot to attend a cub game. When they said no he pulled the don't you know who I am saying. Was listed on the 41st ward concerned citizen blog on facebook. Look it up
5/16/2018 08:58:00 PM
Why would it be on the 41st ward blog. He’s the alderman of the 45th ward
The flop is not a union , its a fraternal organization. Changing to the teamsters would allow other locals to actually strike and picket on our behalf if we joined their union . imagine 5000 18 wheelers abandoned downtown blocking traffic on 3-july. Besides the members don't know this fact.The president of fop can appoint anyone to other offices, like vice-president or sgt at arms, whether a candidate wins the election for that office or not. thats right shocking isn't it. Now you know why the membership gets destoyed in every contract, because they are all in it. The flop sold us out on the one federal court case they won on officers getting time off work. The federal judge told the city, " the officer earned the time , he gets to take off when he wants, chgo go out and pay overtime to officers who want the o.t." We had them, what does the flop do , they sold the membership out by coming up with the officer exchange program which does nothing for addressing the real issue of an officer burning his time when he wants toobut saves the city money in ot payments. STUPID , STUPID FLOP. Most flop officers i hear are merit, go figure. I mean really, who screws over their own membership, they should be removed from office ,like they did to shields.
5/16/2018 09:21:00 PM
I've been a teamster in Chicago. They're just as useless as you're accusing the FOP of being. They refused to represent me in a dispute with my employer. They were rumored to be getting paid by that company to remain useless. We basically had no representation because the union was in bed with the employer. Teamsters isn't the answer. I'll assume the number you used was intentionally exaggerated, but you'd never see even 2 18 wheelers blocking traffic downtown. No one would be striking and picketing on our behalf. You're dreaming. When you say the FOP officers are merit, what do you mean? Merit what?
The only choice for us is Vallas. But we have to vote! We are our own worst enemies.
I’m in!
Why would it be on the 41st ward blog. He’s the alderman of the 45th ward
5/17/2018 11:40:00 AM
Citizens of 41, 45, and 38 are in the 16th Police District. We share information about crime, events, politics, lost pets etc.
Don't bash people who are badmouthing the fop. Its from bad past experience, I marched many years ago, it got us shit. Bad people at fop, now we should march ,it should have never gotten this far. The past FOP and present fop leadership cost each member big past retro money, like 10g because a stupid letter that any of the elected officers could have sent in, wasn't sent in. THE national fop lodge should have gotten rid of all those officers that screwed over the membership. They never come to roll cals like they promise. You ask your rp how to answer a cr # , or file a grievance their clueless and always say call the union. I ASK AGAIN , ' what has the flop done for the entire membership in the last ten years. Answer nothing. We really need a new , real union. Wait to you see the next contract, if that doesn't motivate members to change , nothing will. Decertify the fop.
Hello ICC, I am a detective at Area North. Please don't hold it against me. I've noticed that there are no posters or Flyers here at the area. I've asked around a few people nobody knows anything about this protest.
5/17/2018 02:42:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The only choice for us is Vallas. But we have to vote! We are our own worst enemies.
5/17/2018 04:28:00 PM
Vallas is dead in the water. Paper reported today he has $8,000 in his campaign fund. Not going anywhere with that kind of funding
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We should protest the FOP
Shut the fuck up Rham before somemone FOIAs your computer records to expose your posting.
The same council meeting that the FOP picked to protest is supposed to have the friends of the park and their opposition groups there to protest and support the monument to Obama in the park. Who do you think is going to get the media coverage?
Good planning?
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