COPA: Not Qualified
The Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board came up with a blockbuster ruling - COPA investigators are NOT to be lead investigators on police involved shootings:
- The Executive Director of the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board (ILETSB) has asserted in a recent letter that Chicago’s police oversight body is not legally qualified to investigate police-related homicides.
In an October 28 letter, Brent Fischer, Executive Director of the ILETSB, asserted that Chicago’s Civilian Office of Police Accountability (COPA) is, in his opinion, without statutory authority to investigate police-related shootings. Fischer’s position, outlined in his letter to FOP President Kevin Graham, reinforces the identical position taken by the Fraternal Order of Police.
This throws a largish wrench in Rahm's and Lisa Madigan's "consent" decree:
- The letter also poses grave questions for the proposed consent decree over the Chicago Police Department currently being pursued by the city and AG Madigan. The consent decree would allow COPA to continue with these investigations. Other complicating factors are several scandals currently taking shape in COPA and its predecessor, IPRA.
Former Chicago Police Commander Glenn Evans claims IPRA investigators ginned up false allegations that led to his criminal indictment. Evans was acquitted of every charge. Another lawsuit from a former IPRA employee claims he was told to change his findings in a police-involved shooting to make the shooting unjustified. In yet another case, FOP discovered that COPA withheld the existence and the findings of outside investigators in an investigation of a police-involved shooting.
It certainly looks like this is going to drag out far past the election.
Labels: department issues, info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
86 Comments:
Two words, WOW.
WTF?
COPA you have no fucking standing
We knew all of this already, but the city and the department didn't care. And this probably won't change a damn thing. That's why COPA's clueless investigators aren't the lead investigators on police shootings. They're just there to have their hands held while they try to figure out a way to find some sort of wrongdoing by the officers.
"COPA investigators are NOT to be lead
investigators on police involved shootings"
Big monkey wrench indeed, SCC.
Every corrupt Rahm & Co., Chicago-Cook County Democrat,
Liberal Progressive Alinskyite, Social Justice aclu Warrior,
aggrieved peoples/folkses and local media asshole that co-signed
for this bullshit "Consent Decree" just clenched...
>Sound similar to a cinder block
going through a big plate glass window<
No IPRA/COPA?
No "Consent Decree."
This might be one of the many doors DOJ
needed to have "opened" to put an end to
this "Consent Decree" bullshit once and for all.
The ideal would be to cramp these m/fers style
and deny them access to Chicago/Illinois taxpayer money
to try and fight the Feds back.
LOLZ!
Rahm, Lisa Madigan, Kwame, Sir/Ma'am Prickwrinkle
and Cabrini Kim being forced to put up a Go Fund Me
account to gin up funding to fight the Feds for this
joyously misdirected bullshit called a "Consent Decree."
Watch for local media (especially those worthless
rag newspapers) to push back against this announcement.
"This Consent Decree is the will of the people..."
Awwwwwww, bullshit!
In the meantime?
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Don't get involved in "communerty" bullshit.
Stay out of Cabrini Kim's anti-Police jackpot.
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
Stop.
Reverse.
Point & Laugh again.
Leave again.
Thus the ongoing "The Police Are The Problem"
narrative that has been so artfully crafted,
will flail and fall backwards into it's own
ass with it's hateful and vengeful screams
echoing all over...
Which is why the powers-that-be are so desperate
for Kwame "Baby Barack" Raoul to win election as
Attorney General...
"NO! WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE THIS!"
Funny... Decent and law abiding people cannot
afford you winning this.
This was their "all in, "
as in:
"If you don't like the law as it stands,
vote for someone who will change it."
Kwame is going to fuck The Police and any
notion of public safety, up.
It certainly looks like this is going to drag out far past the election.
02 November 2018 0005 hours.
Good. To hell with 9.5, Madiganess, the Consent Decree and IPRA/COPA.
And, thank you to Kevin Graham and Brent Fischer.
Will they find someone qualified and use him or her for covering all of the clowns at the Copa-Cabana?
off topic:
The order should come out today;
Capt.Brian McDermott to Commander of 008
Commander Ron Pontecore...lateral to 017
Commander Susan Moss....lateral to XO of Area Central
Commander Francis Valadez to Street Deputy (Rodger Bay retiring)
Lt. Maureen Biggane to Commander of 016 (Looney retiring .. age 63)
COPA isn't qualified to fill out the log at Bert's to get a car wash.
Don't know how these morons with ZERO previous investigative experience are allowed to investigate Police Involved shootings. About the only thing they are qualified to investigate would be toilet paper theft at Inv Kobels condo.
Anonymous said...
It certainly looks like this is going to drag out far past the election.
02 November 2018 0005 hours.
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Wrong election there Sparky. City election is 26 February 2019
It’s does not matter... COPA “INSTI-gators” need only be qualified to throw some unsuspecting office up under a bus that is driven by Kidney Bean himself— you can pick who would be seated on the bus; no doubtedly a couple merit hack, connected lawyers and a nearly every alderscum
They even have badges just like the mall cops. Maybe lisa " baby stoneface " madigan should look into this instead of wasting all our time with the consent decree.
It is always refreshing to know that some officers are still out there engaging in proactive aggressive patrol. To all of the new officers- do not believe all of the naysayers. If you follow the law you'll be just fine.
***********
Ask Darren Wilson. You can be right and still your life ruined.
It's comical watching the liberals from Hyde Park bitch and moan about the police taking no action against the savage yutes destroying everything in site on Halloween night. You got what you asked for.....hahahahaha.....call the ACLU next time....
Let’s not celebrate just yet. If COPA becomes the failure we know it is, the next oversight committee could be run by the ACLU with input from any and every activist and liberal groups out there.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We knew all of this already, but the city and the department didn't care. And this probably won't change a damn thing. That's why COPA's clueless investigators aren't the lead investigators on police shootings. They're just there to have their hands held while they try to figure out a way to find some sort of wrongdoing by the officers.
11/02/2018 12:54:00 AM
Well then who is the lead invesrigator, someone has to have that designation.
Did you hear the Hyde Park Liberals on the news last night complaining that the police on bikes just followed the young criminals tearing up Hyde Park on Holloween night? Those are the same jackasses that are complaining about the police arresting and harassing black teens for no reason. Like another Hyde Parker says on his political commercials “ they are just getting started”. Call the ACLU. Call Lisa Madigan.
None of this matters. The city will continue to do as it pleases. Who is going to stop them? A Cook County judge? AG Kwame? Ha ha ha
Good.
COPA, consent decree, new mayor.......
This should also drag out the contract negotiations a couple of years.
Get as many of us out of here at 2% as possible.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/11/01/teen-vandals-damage-several-vehicles-in-hyde-park-on-halloween/
Meanwhile in Hyde Park 200 or more kids vandalized vehicles and the police just watched them and followed them around citizens complaining.
Hmmmm well this is called the norm due to Ramicide, dumb Ed, Project Hood Kim. And the 50 alder thief’s. Well this is the police department aclu, BLM, and the citizens wanted by allowing the city to make the police killers. I’m sure no citizens went to downtown when the hearings for consent decree hearings were going on.
The Shepard (Vandyke) shall be struck & the sheep shall be scattered.
Citizens of Chicago I leave you with this advice go get a CCL license and arm yourselves because no officer is going to put themselves in harms way to protect your property or your life as a matter of fact. The CPD has been crucified and not one of you citizens even gave it any thought. You can thank the ACLU and the BLM movement that has nailed the nails on our CPD coffin. 1st and 16th is all that matters now.
Yawn, I’m so tired from all this typing since I haven’t done an arrest since like forever, I no longer carry handcuffs because they are too heavy & dont carry mace, taser, or any extra Ammo since deadly force is not authorized. I’m falling asleep as I watch Netflix and drink my coffee, I could only wish that the dispatcher would shut up so I can take a nap.. Zzzzzzzz
Another failure by p o s Rahm
SHOULD be plenty of lawsuits???
And the investigator that handled Evan's case did anyone file a lawsuit to throw out any cases that person worked on?
If they throw out murder cases for lying on a report shouldnt the FOP do a class action lawsuit for anyone the IPRA investigator got suspended or fired?
I know nobody has any cash for that and are worried about SGT's test that are 2 years away.
Ha! The new commander of 016 has less time working the street than a PPO. The toughest job she has was making sure phat Phil's fridge was full in the superintendent's office. I guess hosting all those exempt only Christmas parties are finally paying off! Only the best and the brightest, this is obviously a move to do nothing more than inflate her pension before she quits. Good luck up north.
Never could figure out they could be. They’re civilians, they don’t know way thing are done. I’m a civilian, and I never, ever understood why there was such a thing as COPA in the first place.
Thank you Rahm, ACLU, Lisa Madigan, Kim Fox,Eddie Johnson, Tom Dart,for destroying CPD and making the POLICE the bad guys and the poor criminals the victims of society !!!!
Once again, because Chicago thinks it can do whatever it wants, taxpayers are gonna pay.
Ray Charles could see that!
Kim Foxx will deputize them ... more patronage
OMG conspiracy theory 9.5 knowing he would be on his way out (f*ck them, no one to pander too) and little Lisa would not be running (f*ck her, no one to pander too) was TOLD to allow this to come out and hopefully smooth out any issues with who ever he is trying to buddy up to next/future gig :O
I saw the video some Hyde Park liberal turd posted with his boyfriend about the punks destroying cars and shooting off fireworks. The comments didn't include anything about these assholes but the typical "wheres the cops". I loved it. Enjoy the shit you assholes made.
If CPD would have done anything you know well all cameras would be on the arrests being made and how brutal CPD was by the same assholes getting their cars destroyed and dey was just funning. Fuck you assholes. You are now getting the police service you deserve. How does that feel?
Fuck em, cut paper and leave. Take no action outside cutting a report. They deserve nothing else.
This is just an opinion piece, what is the next step?
Chuckle. Chuckle. Chuckle.
where is the support for erica harrold for AG?
after 16 years of madigans do nothing style,
just what do you expect from the baby barack?
all these years of IPRA/COPA and finally somebody stands up to call this sham out?
problem is there is never any challenges to the city's whims in court.
Since this revelation has now officially been stated, this should affect any decisions made by COPA.
If they were and are not legally qualified to lead investigations, their rulings and findings should not be binding.
Wow city might be writing some big checks to COPA victims. Only in B
Chicago.
Nothing to see here. Move a long
Democrats making up their own rules. Love it when those rules bite them in the ass. So will COPA be disbanded and all those inflated salaries be saved? No the Chicago way says those worthless leeches get to keep their jobs and titles only not they will be paid to do nothing. Can't have those vote in jeopardy in an election year.
City Hall will not let this stand. Big legal battle and millions will be spent defending the indefensible. Lame Duck Rahm will fight this with all 9.5 digest trying to claw onto important part of his legacy. Trump should declare the Chicago Democratic Machine a terrorist organization and send ALL Chicago Democratic Politicians to Gitmo.
You missed this hilarious line from the original posting:
"Equally important, why have Cook County State’s Attorney Kimberly Foxx and Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan not intervened to stop what are clearly unlawful investigations?"
ROFL on that one!
Surprise surprise! Not.
During my Police Board Case , the IPRA Investigator Galindo failed to provide a key To/From which Deptuy Chief Dugan issued a “NOT SUSTAINED” finding on my CR during the discovery phase. I was only informed of it after being found guilty by the Police Board and was not allowed to use this in my defense. In this To/From Dugan also said that the investigation was “ sinister” and that the IPRA Investigator has committed a Rule 14 Violation in her conclusions. If I had been provided this or known of its existence then we would have subpoenaed Investigator Galindo and would have IMPEACHAHED her before the Police Board. Anyways after a modest suspension that was half served up until the Board hearing it went to termination upon the boards findings. Since I had never had a SUSTAINED CR the Board determined there was no way to go forward with TERMINATION, however I was given a very very lengthily Suspension. I appealed and the Judge overturned everything and basically found the City/ Department guilty of what they had accused me of and ultimately the Department/City accepted the Judges findings which were scathing to the City. This entire process took over 8 years, I would not wish it on my worst enemy.
Your chance to strike down COPA & the Consent Decree comes on Tuesday. Keep Congress in the Republicans hands and let Trump and Sessions restore the "Rule of Law". You want more progressive crony political leaders destroying the law, put the gavel back in Pelosi's hand. Its that simple.
you guys and girls need this union to represent you.
LOL, truly a shitshow!
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/cta-chicago-transit-authority-bus-drivers-urinating-defecating-little-disciplinary-action/
Shocking......NOT!!
Gee go figure. Here comes the court battle.
Does his lette have the force of law or is it just one persons opinion.
City Hall will just take it friendly local court and get opinion overturned. Don’t county the chickens just yet
Your all about to see the Chicago Way come into play. Too much money changed hands to let some buffoon ruin the pudding.
I just picked up season 3 of Police Story on DVD. Whenever I feel like being a police officer I'll just watch an episode of that instead. Much safer for my financial well being in this climate.
So what bearing does this have? Does the boards ruling have to be enforced, or is it just lip service? Of course a body (COPA) that has zero police experience and zero investigative experience should NOT be lead investigators in police related shootings. So now what?
Looks like Evanston, Cicero, and Dolton will have to investigate our police shootings.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
It certainly looks like this is going to drag out far past the election.
02 November 2018 0005 hours.
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Wrong election there Sparky. City election is 26 February 2019
11/02/2018 04:47:00 AM
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Ok, did the original poster include the mayors name or any aldermens names? No, by golly he or she didn't, he mentioned that worthless pair of Madigans, her uselessness goes into caretaker role attorney general officially in November. and the consent decree may be crippled after that. At ease, blog post police, go back to telling people they can't have soup.
training board lacks the legal authority to tell the City who has to investigate police shooting; no where in police training act is the board granted this authority. The same board still allows the city to grant police powers to private security guards without requiring said guards to complete full-time or part-time certification, so the city should tell the board to pound sand. Having said that, copa is full of fools that will only be stopped by civil rights lawsuits against city and copa employees in their official and individual capacities.
It doesn’t make any sense that a lame duck mayor and AG would be negotiating this anyway. They aren’t negotiating for new contracts for any levels of police that have been expired for at least over a year.
I’ve been saying this since the creation of COPA. COPA has no legal standing or authority which is established by state law to investigate CPD.
Barrack the community activist can make up problems , had 8 years found no solutions.
No resources for Chicago , no jobs for blacks , doubled the deficit.
He’s preaching for the rights of illegals t , criminal community.
He did Beat Hillary , helps republicans when they see Obama out .
Reminder of how bad things were .
I don't think we are getting out if the content decree because the majority of citizens are in favor of it. The decree can be amended, so it reflects the changes to lead investigator on shootings. I am not a troll— 22 YOS in a blue shirt. This is just more smoke and mirrors to appease the masses.
Capt.Brian McDermott to Commander of 008
Commander Ron Pontecore...lateral to 017
Commander Susan Moss....lateral to XO of Area Central
Commander Francis Valadez to Street Deputy (Rodger Bay retiring)
Lt. Maureen Biggane to Commander of 016 (Looney retiring .. age 63)
11/02/2018 02:11:00 AM
Like all the rest of the worthless exempts to date, none of these empty holsters have made any difference in the prevention of violence or crime in the city...
libtards U of C PD are not allowed to stop & frisk any young men or women that drive , walk through property of the University . Those young men and women have rights to commit thefts , enter dorms , student housing .
jajajaja bwahaha ya gotta love it
Potential lawsuits heading the City’s and COPA’s way?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Looks like Evanston, Cicero, and Dolton will have to investigate our police shootings.
11/02/2018 01:16:00 PM
Will never happen. No small municipalities will ever investigate the CPD. If they were ever found liable in a lawsuit the financial burden would wipe them out. The only agency that makes any sense is the State Police or a Multi-Agency Task Force made up of experienced homicide investigators.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Barrack the community activist can make up problems , had 8 years found no solutions.
No resources for Chicago , no jobs for blacks , doubled the deficit.
He’s preaching for the rights of illegals t , criminal community.
He did Beat Hillary , helps republicans when they see Obama out .
Reminder of how bad things were .
11/02/2018 02:34:00 PM
In eight years he did not do anything for the good of this nation, everything was detrimental. It seemed as if he was trying to destroy the country.
COPA is barely qualified to run an elote stand. Our scum led dept backs them more than they back the blue shirts. To hell with everybody
Heh!
aclu lawyer/copa investigator
got the sweats, involuntary ass clenches
and nervous itchy armpits that SOMEBODY
of substance and standing has come out
and denounced their breathlessly awaited
anti-Police "Consent Decree" for the high
order donkey dung it is...
Put this one under:
"Awwwww! Aren't they CUUUUUTE
when they try to fight back.
Anonymous said...
"training board lacks the legal authority to tell the City
who has to investigate police shooting." no where in police
training act is the board granted this authority..."
11/02/2018 01:38:00 PM
Yeah... This reads like some push-back from some
shit shack lawyer who knows just enough to be a
danger to the law abiding.
Fearful of all that "free money" being dangled by
Rahm suddenly being made unavailable.
Hopefully, the upright and law abiding will finally
get the reward of seeing a bunch of aclu and copa shoes
running on air when DOJ gets done with them.
Anyhoo...
Let's have fun and fuck with this statement a little.
The Training Board CAN tell the city, WHO/WHO DOES NOT
have the legal authority TO investigate Police Shootings
and WHO/WHO DOES NOT actually have the legal authority
to enact/recommend sanction (or not) based on (or not)
that legal authority that exists only in the "Cuckoo
Cloud Land" of the minds of the aclu and the perpetually
aggrieved folkses/peoples who need to be under a Consent
Decree themsleves...
>Snicker!<
"The Police Are What's Wrong With Chicago.
Once we fix THEM, everything else will
fall in place."
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!!!
FYI. Home rule! City can do what it wants!!!
Pcria doesn't say the investigators need to be certified police officers. Standards board has no power of enforcement, neither does copa. At the most copa makes recommendations to the states attorneys office. This won't change anything except the possibility of the SA office swearing them in or some other state entity. The public hates the police and they will find a way. Worst case is copa gets replaced with an even more liberal bunch. Not all of the people at copa are anti police but there are enough to push the agenda. You dont want to alienate the good ones.
And what is ILETSB? They are not a legal body. Good luck.
The village idiots that run the department and city hall are clueless.
Well then who is the lead invesrigator, someone has to have that designation.
11/02/2018 06:08:00 AM
They have the designation, but they don't actually do any of the real investigation. Street deputy runs the show, detectives and forensics personnel collect all the evidence, witnesses, etc., and COPA gets walked through everything by the street deputy. The investigation of a police shooting needs to be done by actual law enforcement personnel. COPA doesn't have the training, skills, knowledge, or ability to conduct an actual criminal investigation. They just take whatever is given to them by the actual police conducting the actual investigation, and then try to figure out if the police did anything wrong so they can hang them. COPA "investigators" are generally clueless and confused. They are unqualified and unable to do the job they've been assigned to do. Their position was created to appease people who believe there's some huge conspiracy in our department to cover up every police shooting, because every police shooting involves some wrongdoing by the involved officers. The state police should be investigating our shootings, but they don't have the desire or the personnel to deal with it. So we get a bunch of civilians with an agenda, not an impartial investigation.
PCRIA doesn’t say investigators need to be certified police officers . PCRIA Does say that to investigate a police involved shooting at least one of the investigators must be certified as a lead homicide investigator by the police training standard board. You must be a sworn police officer to be a lead homicide investigator.
Anonymous said...
You missed this hilarious line from the original posting:
"Equally important, why have Cook County State’s Attorney Kimberly Foxx and Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan not intervened to stop what are clearly unlawful investigations?"
ROFL on that one!
11/02/2018 09:58:00 AM
Our former commander in A/N, argued that the city was knowingly violating state law by allowing COPA to be the investigators on use of force. He continuously went to the former chief of detectives (Roy) and said as much. I believe that he also met with Kwame (author of the law) and Lisa (I didn't see nothing that my daddy didn't see) and asked for an investigation, stating that the ISP should be the only outside agency investigating CPD shootings but he was consistently told "It'll be fine - don't worry about it"! Guess he was right after all.
During my Police Board Case , the IPRA Investigator Galindo failed to provide a key To/From which Deptuy Chief Dugan issued a “NOT SUSTAINED” finding on my CR during the discovery phase. I was only informed of it after being found guilty by the Police Board and was not allowed to use this in my defense. In this To/From Dugan also said that the investigation was “ sinister” and that the IPRA Investigator has committed a Rule 14 Violation in her conclusions. If I had been provided this or known of its existence then we would have subpoenaed Investigator Galindo and would have IMPEACHAHED her before the Police Board. Anyways after a modest suspension that was half served up until the Board hearing it went to termination upon the boards findings. Since I had never had a SUSTAINED CR the Board determined there was no way to go forward with TERMINATION, however I was given a very very lengthily Suspension. I appealed and the Judge overturned everything and basically found the City/ Department guilty of what they had accused me of and ultimately the Department/City accepted the Judges findings which were scathing to the City. This entire process took over 8 years, I would not wish it on my worst enemy.
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What is the case number? I want to pull all of the filings at the courthouse.
Anonymous said...
Pcria doesn't say the investigators need to be certified police officers. Standards board has no power of enforcement, neither does copa. At the most copa makes recommendations to the states attorneys office. This won't change anything except the possibility of the SA office swearing them in or some other state entity. The public hates the police and they will find a way. Worst case is copa gets replaced with an even more liberal bunch. Not all of the people at copa are anti police but there are enough to push the agenda. You dont want to alienate the good ones.
11/02/2018 08:30:00 PM
DAMN!
aclu/copa is trolling the fuck out of this thread!
Every living ass at COPA is fully invested
in the anti-Police/Police hater narrative.
Look at all the good Policemen who've been alienated...
Ya mean rahm and lisa hatched a plot to STALL until neither were in office anymore, and it all reset to square one so democrats can do the whooole operation again, with new faces?
Gee, it is almost like thats the dems whole playbook.
Lie, lie some more. Reset, lie lie some more. Then lie and reset.
COPA cabanna.
someone is finally making sense.
Anonymous said...
It certainly looks like this is going to drag out far past the election.
02 November 2018 0005 hours.
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Wrong election there Sparky. City election is 26 February 2019
11/02/2018 04:47:00 AM
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Ok, did the original poster include the mayors name or any aldermens names? No, by golly he or she didn't, he mentioned that worthless pair of Madigans, her uselessness goes into caretaker role attorney general officially in November. and the consent decree may be crippled after that. At ease, blog post police, go back to telling people they can't have soup.
11/02/2018 01:33:00 PM
Thanks 11/02/2018 01:33:00 PM for the backup. The blog post police doofus must not have read the words written by SCC to start this thread. The quote "It certainly looks like this is going to drag out far past the election" was authored by SCC. It is SCC's last sentence. The blog post police doofus should check around before going on the attack. Did you get that Sparky?
Haha! ... Haha! ... Haha!
like congress, any a**hole is ok
they just need space to vent, same as balti-mo'
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And what is ILETSB? They are not a legal body. Good luck.
11/02/2018 09:11:00 PM
Ok... Try and keep up with the class.
The "legal body" everybody has been looking for
is the Illinois Attorney General.
She ain't gonna do shit.
She hasn't done shit.
She is not doing shit.
Look over yonder at the m/fer they WANT
to screw into the Attorney General socket.
"If'n you don't like a law, change it..."
Kwame Raoul IS going to bring a lot
of pain for Policing in this state just to
secure the progressive win against CPD.
We really hope that the rest of Illinois beyond
Chicago/Cook County sees the potential harm
in him being elected as the head law enforcement
"Officer" of this state.
Anonymous said...
training board lacks the legal authority to tell the City who has to investigate police shooting; no where in police training act is the board granted this authority. The same board still allows the city to grant police powers to private security guards without requiring said guards to complete full-time or part-time certification, so the city should tell the board to pound sand. Having said that, copa is full of fools that will only be stopped by civil rights lawsuits against city and copa employees in their official and individual capacities.
11/02/2018 01:38:00 PM
What private security guards are granted “police powers” by the City of Chicago? None is the correct answer.
To 11/02 at 10:05 pm..... I don’t have he case number but I can probably get it. The incident occurred in March of 2006. The Findings were overturned in March of 2012.
I am all kinds of confused.
If this training board was the one who took police powers away from Aviation police.
Or the ones that decertify any officer within the state.
Then why would I listen to or deal with COPA?
Since they are not Certified....
ILETSB is granted their power by State law:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=731&ChapterID=11
And what is ILETSB? They are not a legal body. Good luck.
11/02/2018 09:11:00 PM
They regulate police certification in Illinois. Look at your academy certificate. Read state law.
11/02/2018 07:07:00 AM
RE: Investigations and lawsuit
You would think the FOP lodge offices, either state and national would demand an top bottom of every sustained IPRA/COPA investigation, and seek the firing of any IPRA/COPA investigation found to have engaged in misconduct , gross incompetence, or criminal action in the performance of their duties.
IPRA is reopening old CR numbers that were not sustained? Why can't the same process be done for sustained investigations?
You know, like Kimm Foxx is doing for the Ron Watts arrestees?
Does the union representing IPRA/COPA employees and the FOP have some sort of one way gentleman's agreement not to pursue IPRA COPA investigators jobs?
I would think that an IPRA investigator who was
arrested multiple times
sued twice by a police officer for battery
attacked fellow employees, both sworn and civilian,
committed perjury and presented false official reports to IPRA and numerous courts,
misused city of Chicago equipment while breaking the law and violating policies
( and that's the tip of the iceberg)
would warrant a union demand to fire him or her ( M. Campbell) and seek charges and damages.
But again this ain't the real world, it's Chicago.
What private security guards are granted “police powers” by the City of Chicago? None is the correct answer.
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I don't think the City does it anymore. At one time it was pretty common for private guards to get some kind of municipal police department badge. In the burbs they sometimes called them reserve marshals. But the state has restricted that practice pretty seriously.
But as far as I know, the city still has "special" police that have some limited police powers that are basically security guards for certain city facilities. IIRC, the police superintendent can issue that kind of police commission to anyone he wants to with no training required. How common it is these days is hard to say. I bet it has not completely gone away though.
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