Monday, November 05, 2018

Great Clearance Rates Ed

Our Stat Guy has been busy data-mining various Department databases. We'll just leave these here and wonder why Special Ed (and his staff) still has a job:



Anyone know what a trend line is?


Yeah, 2019 isn't looking any better without a wholesale shakeup in the political order that is keeping crime from being solved and prosecuted.

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137 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I said it here before Special Ed and Rahm have a failed crime strategy!

My strategy is to retire and move!

11/05/2018 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I see a lot of property for sale.

11/05/2018 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even though he may not be making things any better, it's not all Ed's fault. The police just can't be the police anymore. The job is dead.

For your own sake, Stay Fetal.

11/05/2018 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aclu agreement? consent decree? Anti police community citywide. Who you gonna call?

11/05/2018 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, when 40 percent of the new detectives have less than 7 or 8 years on the job it’s a problem. Many of these people have never worked without body cameras, in car cameras and GPS on the cars. That means they have never really done this job. They talk to people like robots. They’ve never really interacted with people without some kind of camera looking at them. Many of them have never had to write themselves in or out of something creatively. Many of them have done only traffic because the only arrest being made these days that they know how to do is traffic. Beat cars use to get dope, guns etc now it’s domestics and traffic. You don’t learn this job from domestics and body camera suspended drivers license arrests. I can’t tell you the last time I’ve seen a beat car on the watch cow in with some kind of arrest where paper had to be craftily written.. it just doesn’t happen anymore and it’s whats going to kill this department. Any new officer withoeas than 8 years on knows nothing about police work. These are the people who are eventually going to have to fill spots in narcotics, gangs, the D unit etc. tac teams are doing TVBs. They don’t know police work. How can they work wires in gangs? Flip C/Is when hey have no clue yet to say or how to flip someone? How to do dope surveillance? How to do a buy? How to write a warrant? How to properly maintain a C/I? How to investigate a shooting? They can’t. Nobody who is the new “body cam” police will ever be able o properly learn any of this. In 10 years all those unit spots will have to be filled with someone and it will be with people who are robots who know nothing about police work and grew up in a town in Ohio and took the cpd job to be the change. No more gritty people are gettin hired anymore who have that edge. They are all straight laced kids who grew up elsewhere and don’t know this city or how to interact with them... the department is doomed and they are doing on purpose by way of selective hiring to ensure that any connections to the cpd are severed and gone.

11/05/2018 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He has a job because the folks that run the city and county are happy with his performance.

11/05/2018 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The detective division has been staffed with supervisors that are hacks and yes men that can’t balance their checkbook for at least the last 10 years! That’s why!!!

11/05/2018 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...





OT -- Do NOT vote for Kwame Raoul.



If last week's debate between Raoul and Republican A.G. candidate Erika Harold on WTTW wasn't enough to stop you for voting for Raoul, consider this: As a state senator, Raoul continues to be the voice for Chicago streetgangs in Springfield. He's either sponsored or supported every new law dumbing down crime and making it easier for his constituents to rob, loot, deal dope, live off government handouts and have their criminal records concealed.

http://www.ilga.gov/senate/SenatorBills.asp?MemberID=2340&GA=100

Senate Bill 2034 – bail bond “reform” act; passed into law Allowing criminals to stay on the street while awaiting trial.

Senate Bill 2872 – Signed into law. Makes it harder to send repeat felons to prison for longer sentences.

Senate Bill 1722 – Vast bill making many pro-criminal changes to existing statutes, such as allowing drug dealers to sell drugs closer to schools, rest areas and truck stops without added penalties. Signed into law as Public Act 100-3.



Erika Harold makes me cringe when she occasionally repeats RINO memes, but Raoul would be a disaster.

11/05/2018 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s that graph the departments retention rate also

11/05/2018 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Homicide and Agg. Battery w/Handgun clearance rate used to be laughable, but not it’s sad. The clearance rate has gained national attention. The low clearance rate is not being taken seriously. Cameras all around the city. It’s amazing how quickly citizens find camera footage to report police misconduct. Someone commented that M. Staples is next up for Supt. well she has done a sh-t job with the D-Unit.

11/05/2018 02:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, years ago Homicide/ Shooting dicks knocked on doors and went door to door looking for leads and talking to citizens, but now they sit in the Areas waiting for tips to fall in their laps. These days citizens come to the desk complaining that they’ve left several messages for the dicks and they haven’t received a response. Desk officers call the Areas and are left on hold.

11/05/2018 02:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that the low clearance rates are due to detectives’ lack of compassion and caring for the residents on the south and west sides. All detectives are to be replaced by COPA at the start of the new year. There is a 10 year phase out of all CPD officers as the city transitions to the newly formed CpdOPA.

11/05/2018 03:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because he is a shit head !

11/05/2018 04:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could it be that the increase is just on the decrease? Yea that's the ticket!

11/05/2018 04:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the department was a business.

It would be bankrupt.

And the high ranking officers would be fired

11/05/2018 05:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just think if he along with the elected were in a corporate world where they would have to work for a living they would have been thrown out on the street by the shareholders (taxpayers) long ago with these extremely asinine results! Why do we even have a detective division that takes 10’s of millions in overtime with poor results? Why not buy all marked vehicles to prevent them from doing other things as they think they are “undercover” then they could at least get jobs and respond to calls! Whoever is in charge of “defective division,” needs to be removed. Have you noticed Eddie has demoted zero exempts ridiculous with the poor results, but it just shows weakness on eddies part, just resign Eddie hang your head and know you failed the officers, the citizens who have to visit the mortuary,and the citizens who are being shot,killed,maimed on a daily basis!

11/05/2018 05:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the cleared homicides where the victim was murdered by a relative or a close neighbor and those that the offender is killed also the clearance rate is well under 10%.

Foxx and Preckwinkle and the ACLU bear a great deal of responsibility for the falling rates.

11/05/2018 05:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean to tell me that the reluctant boss is not getting the job done, who would have seen this coming?

11/05/2018 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm...strange why Ed doesn’t have a press conference touting how good is the clearance rate of Chicago.

11/05/2018 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Even though he may not be making things any better, it's not all Ed's fault. The police just can't be the police anymore. The job is dead.

For your own sake, Stay Fetal.

11/05/2018 12:16:00 AM

Actually, it is his fault. This didn't happen overnight. This is about leadership. Putting the right puzzle pieces where they belong, not promoting someone because of their fraternity.

11/05/2018 06:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BwaaaaHaHahaaaHaaa!!!!

Hey Chicago WE TOLD YOU THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

Vote for idiots and you get idiotic results.



11/05/2018 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not all Ed’s fault. Kim gets some credit for creating this environment.

11/05/2018 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That homicide clearance rate slope looks like a great mountain to ski on.

11/05/2018 06:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who was in charge of Detectives in 2013? Is it the same person that is now in charge? Willing to bet there has been a big leadership change. Fat Head brought in his people who are incompetent fools across the board. Merit hacks with literally no clues. Demote the whole lot and please fire Fat Head Ed. He has and will continue to be a failure. Merit promotions have no place in CPD. There is a reason the military dose not have merit promotions. Why does the CPD.

11/05/2018 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FINALLY SCC takes notice of the total Detectives failure. What took so long? Now we will here all the lame excuses, people won't talk, manpower shortage, ASA's won't charge, no bail and judges to lenient. But I will point to the favorite whipping boy city Baltimore, you all like to point out that Chicago is heading towards Baltimore policing status. Well I say let it come their closure rate on homicides is over 45% ours is less than 15%. Enough said. It is a leadership or lack of creditable leadership issue. Fire all the top brass in Detectives now. At 15% what have you got to lose?

11/05/2018 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Well, when 40 percent of the new detectives have less than 7 or 8 years on the job it’s a problem. Many of these people have never worked without body cameras, in car cameras and GPS on the cars. That means they have never really done this job. They talk to people like robots. They’ve never really interacted with people without some kind of camera looking at them. Many of them have never had to write themselves in or out of something creatively. Many of them have done only traffic because the only arrest being made these days that they know how to do is traffic. Beat cars use to get dope, guns etc now it’s domestics and traffic. You don’t learn this job from domestics and body camera suspended drivers license arrests. I can’t tell you the last time I’ve seen a beat car on the watch cow in with some kind of arrest where paper had to be craftily written.. it just doesn’t happen anymore and it’s whats going to kill this department. Any new officer withoeas than 8 years on knows nothing about police work. These are the people who are eventually going to have to fill spots in narcotics, gangs, the D unit etc. tac teams are doing TVBs. They don’t know police work. How can they work wires in gangs? Flip C/Is when hey have no clue yet to say or how to flip someone? How to do dope surveillance? How to do a buy? How to write a warrant? How to properly maintain a C/I? How to investigate a shooting? They can’t. Nobody who is the new “body cam” police will ever be able o properly learn any of this. In 10 years all those unit spots will have to be filled with someone and it will be with people who are robots who know nothing about police work and grew up in a town in Ohio and took the cpd job to be the change. No more gritty people are gettin hired anymore who have that edge. They are all straight laced kids who grew up elsewhere and don’t know this city or how to interact with them... the department is doomed and they are doing on purpose by way of selective hiring to ensure that any connections to the cpd are severed and gone.



HAHAHAHAHA.. Guess you haven’t figured it out yet... Who cares.....

11/05/2018 06:58:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Replace merit detectives with wooden batons and Chicago telephone books from the 1980s.

11/05/2018 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There number include Ex Clearing cases which is a way to bump up the numbers.

11/05/2018 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sign on Harry's Bosh's desk reads "Get off your ass and knock on some doors". Simple as that. Way to much tome wasted issuing community warning bulletins and not enough time on the street. These awful numbers why the city population shrinking and the same manpower in place for the last couple of years. The whole problem is a management issue. No responsibility for doing a bad job. Lets do the math. Last year 600 murders 15% clearance rate equals 90 solved cases. Divide the 90 by the current number of detectives reward the very few that posted a win and light a fire under the majority that took up space last year. Accountability is the key, do your job and get measurable results or your back on the street in uniform. Guarantee that will get them all motivated. Remember Baltimore's 45+% clearance rate. Be Baltimore.

11/05/2018 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This must be why Rahm isn’t running. He’s got some pencil pusher that came up with the same prediction.

Dear God why did I put roots down in Chicago. Would love to just pick up and leave this shit hole.

11/05/2018 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/05/2018 12:26:00 AM


Lightin up Francis. They will become the SuperCop just like you think you are in time.

11/05/2018 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Less than 8% of coppers work as detectives. McCarthy didn’t you start this?

11/05/2018 07:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember what Eddie said, “we can’t arrest our way out of this situation.”

For fuck’s sake we didn’t know that was going to be your strategy, Eddie! We thought you were just saying something for the cameras!

11/05/2018 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're spot on SCC. He needs to go.

The superintendent of police serves at the pleasure of the mayor. And these results speak for themselves. Rahm needs to find a replacement that can produce RESULTS. We all know the only reason Eddie was hired was because of the color of his skin - it came at a time Rahm was desperate to keep the black community from overthrowing him. It had nothing to do with qualification. Eddie is just in over his head.

11/05/2018 07:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HE s done

The only reason for the rush on a SGT exams is to get his son a copy of the test and getting him green lighted on his way to DOUBLE secret MERIT with a FENNER like score.

11/05/2018 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It might help if they start writing ANOVs

11/05/2018 07:50:00 AM  
Blogger grunt archangel said...

But we are more Gender trained and friendlier .ALL THANKS TO Eddie

11/05/2018 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO contract

NO raise

NO SQUAD CARS

NO overtime

consent decree?

Body camera?

Swiping in?

GPS?

Contact cards?
MAYBE the clearance rate MIGHT GO UP>>> Make my job harder pay me less YEA i GOTZ your clearance rate.

11/05/2018 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everytime Special Ed gets in front of the microphone he tells everyone who crime is down.

11/05/2018 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What this calls for is more merit promotions. It's our time now! When the fuck hasn't it been?

11/05/2018 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact is, it doesn’t matter who you put in charge of CPD - proactive and aggressive policing is dead. No one wants to go the “extra mile” for a department that’ll throw them to the wolves at the first sign of trouble. It’s 2018. There are as many cameras as there are liberal sentimentalities and everyone knows it. The whole criminal justice system needs to be overhauled to get the clearance up. Another fact is that I remember a lot of old school guys refusing to cut bogus paper to some “victims” if the coppers thought it was bullshit. That really can’t be done with BWC these days. The mentality now is just to cut the report right away. So the bum that got into a fight with the other bum and lost his garbage bag of tattered clothes is now a “robbery”. Not long ago, beat car would’ve told hobo joe to beat feet. Even if you found boxcar willie who was the “robbery” offender, do you think hobo joe will cooperate with detectives? Go to court? Do a line up? There’s another suspended case and another kick in the clearance rate’s crotch.

11/05/2018 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What really is the clear-up of homicides?

11/05/2018 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Because he is a shit head !

11/05/2018 04:04:00 AM

Good point................

11/05/2018 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Informational Posting:

In the last few weeks an officer was called to Random and blew over the legal limit. A Log number was generated and he was stripped as usual. What is new is that Tina Skahill ordered that he be DUI'ed. There was no accident involved. The in-car camera tapes were pulled and they looked for security footage at Headquarters to prove he was driving. We would NEVER do this to any regular person. Why would we do it to our own? Skahill's new policy when someone blows over the legal limit is to find out if the Officer drove to Random, and charge them. Her reasoning is that someone at some point may ask why we never DUI the Officer and add to the alleged "Code of Silence." These people are scared of their own shadows.

Please, if you have been drinking don't come to work. If you do come to work and get called to Random, have your partner drive. If you don't have a partner, tell your boss you need a ride. Its better to take the administrative hit for intoxication on duty alone than to take that hit as well as a DUI. Further, if you lose your license, you are put in a no pay status until you get it back.

11/05/2018 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody talks about the “ code of silence “ in the community?

11/05/2018 08:51:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

Charts, schmarts. Math is Racist.
(or something like that)

11/05/2018 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

 I can’t tell you the last time I’ve seen a beat car on the watch cow in with some kind of arrest where paper had to be craftily written.. it just doesn’t happen anymore and it’s whats going to kill this department. Any new officer withoeas than 8 years on knows nothing about police work. 

Your writing "craftily" is what got us body cameras. And lawsuits. And with how the rest of your post reads I can see why.

11/05/2018 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we just rotate those graphs 90 degrees in any direction things would look much better

11/05/2018 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People who are considering moving to Chicago are going to look at the crime stats. When they see this, they are going to decide to move somewhere else. It's bad enough to be shot down in the streets of this "filthy" town, but the likelihood that the murder will go down as unsolved is the real kicker.

Once again...Clearance rates only represent how many crimes are actually solved on paper. The numbers for homicides and violent crimes actually getting charged are waaay lower. Even lower still are the number of actual convictions.

More people are leaving this stink hole than are moving to it.

11/05/2018 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pathetic. A once-proud police department is now a national laughingstock. Thanks, Special Ed! Thanks, City Hall! Great job running it straight into the ground.

11/05/2018 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't clear them if the asa won't charge them

11/05/2018 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Graph also depicts morale. It was high, now it sunk to all time low.

11/05/2018 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O.T. but it all plays into what your saying SCC. We all know that 015 has been a sinking ship since unqualified Ernie took over.015 has almost as many P.P.O's as P.O.'s on certain watches, officers getting off their ppo status and the next day they are working with a ppo who is just starting their cycles. It's the blind leading the blind, there's officers with 5-10 years on the job who still don't know shit. Nobody knows how to be the police and it doesn't help when 3/4 of the command staff have never been the police either. This isn't unique to 015 it's a cancer that has spread throughout the districts and units. Like someone commented above you have guy's/gal's with 5-6 years on the job who did noting in patrol or the bullshit unit they were on that they got because of reverse seniority now they're going to be investigating homicides, agg battery etc... It's sad just sad.

11/05/2018 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So who lost their job over these numbers. Year after year and no leadership Changes? This could be fixed overnight with the right leader. A Patton type, take no prisoners and make no friends. There is absolutely no accountability in the Detectives Division. None. No one cares if you are doing a good or bad job. Bosses very good at CYA with all lame excuses for not getting job done. Good thing these guys were not in Army during WWII, we would all be speaking German now. Theeven is no accountability in CPD. If there were the whole command structure would have been fired long ago. This is what you get when political merit hacks infect an orginization .

11/05/2018 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPD Standard Statistical Manipulations for the Homicide Clearance Figures:
1. Police involved shootings which result in offender's death are included in clearance rate.
2. Victim shootings of offenders (i.e. store owners during holdups) are included in clearance rates.
In both cases, we are not dealing with unknown shooters and they are almost always justified and straight forward. But the CPD adds these numbers in order to keep the clearance rate out of the single digits.
3. If someone is killed by a hit and run driver, it is classified as a motor vehicle accident only by CPD, UNLESS the offender is apprehended. Then and only then, is it reclassified as a homicide, in order to clear it by arrest.
Don't blame the Detectives when you have had a full on assault on legitimate proactive policing. Remember, the attack began before Ferguson. The attack against detectives started with the fraudulent "Innocence Project" and pushed by an inept media.I'm surprised the clearance rate is as high as it is. In any case, you have a 9 out of 10 chance of getting away with murder in Chicago. Thank you, rahm.

11/05/2018 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You reap what you vote. Think twice before pulling D lever and yes on judge lever tomorrow.

11/05/2018 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Congratulations to the CPD you have made the city a santuractury city for criminals of all persuasions. Murders, rapists and robbers have free reign in your city. Between the justice system and fetal cops no one in city is safe anymore. The old GOOD neighborhoods have become hunting grounds and the ghettos are now no go and no do zones. You take your life in your own hands if your stupid enough to use public transportation. Day or night the streets are not safe. You are paying some of the highest taxes in nation and for that you should expect and demand to be safe on your streets and in your homes. But it is Chicago and Democratic logic rules. Graft and corruption in all city agencies are the order of the day. Blatant vote buying and pandering to stay in power is the Chicago Way. The Chicago Values slogan applies to how much the politicians can steal. Yet you will continue to vote the Democratic thieves into office. So to you all STFU and enjoy the enjoy the conquesences of your blind Democratic alliances.

11/05/2018 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I moved to Chicago 20+ years ago, I didn't know what the word "sheeple" meant. Now of course I do. I live with thousands of sheeple as neighbors. Most of Chicago is a "sheeple".

Think about this for a moment - a guy committing murder in Chicago is more than TWICE as likely to get cancer than he is getting get caught for committing murder.

Google what is NYC's clearance rate is for homicide and it will blow your mind.

11/05/2018 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I pointed out yesterday,
Jugghead shortBus had tallied +1900 homicides in 30 months compared to +3700 in 8 years of JFed and Gmac.

What changed big time under Special Ed is the lax prosecution, denials of felonies and the all out restorative justice bullshit.
Special Ed blames his own police department for being racist and insensitive.
He has a loyalty to the Rahm, the S/A and CookCo President.

Besides,
A clearance by arrest is the only model the outdated Dept uses. Clearances by refusal to prosecute don’t count and there’s plenty of that.
Cook County only allows so much time to hold the accused and witnesses, if they want to even cooperate at all - it’s their choice.
Locating the ASA required amount of credible witnesses in a another hurdle.
Do your legwork for 36 straight hrs and get knocked out of the clearance box by a denial anyway.

Let’s see Prickwrinkle n’Fxxxup incarceration and convicted chart. Special Ed’s communitay trust quotient looks similar - so he says.
The City and County are perfectly satisfied with the trends.

There’s no place in Restorative Justice for police clearences, in fact its not mentioned in obama’s executive ordered 21st Century Policing operating procedures.

Stay Fetal.

Rahm & Special Ed are done. It will be up to the next mayor to pick up where these fools left off.
Nothing good will come...

Get out and VOTE !!!
WRITE IN Candidate for
Cook Co Board President - Jonathan H. Luers (R)

11/05/2018 11:07:00 AM  
Blogger trix said...

It started with McCarthy. For those who consider him a good candidate for mayor, remember how he dismantled our detective division and the aftermath that followed. PLEASE RECONSIDER.

11/05/2018 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are all straight laced kids who grew up elsewhere and don’t know this city or how to interact with them... the department is doomed and they are doing on purpose by way of selective hiring to ensure that any connections to the cpd are severed and gone.

11/05/2018 12:26:00 AM

--- This exactly what they wanted and worse. They're already hiring former gang bangers and foreigners who sued for discrimination because they lacked citizenship. They don't want the guys who are a little rough around the edges that could smell a problem mile away, and had an ear on the cement able to detect the herds of trouble before the stampede. Now, the barometer of a good officer is how many times they say "please sir" and "thank you ma'am". But when the camera is rolling you gotta make it look good or else. And honestly, I don't blame the low clearance rates on the detectives. Anyone notice the recent number of lawsuits from the group of prisoners claiming to be wrongfully convicted??? They are all innocent and were "coerced into a confession". Now the dets have to serve them ice cream and cake and give them a security pet in order to talk to them otherwise they're violating their rights. And the assholes in the "community" all know who the dirty bastard is, but they ain't talking. And they wonder why clearance is plummeting.

11/05/2018 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, 2019 isn't looking any better without a wholesale shakeup in the political order that is keeping crime from being solved and prosecuted.
Labels: department issues, stats

Perhaps the next mayor will be more gentler when requesting the criminal elements to "take it to the alley..."

11/05/2018 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Well, years ago Homicide/ Shooting dicks knocked on doors and went door to door looking for leads and talking to citizens, but now they sit in the Areas waiting for tips to fall in their laps. These days citizens come to the desk complaining that they’ve left several messages for the dicks and they haven’t received a response. Desk officers call the Areas and are left on hold.

11/05/2018 02:52:00 AM

Hey it ain't easy counting all that overtime money at home...

11/05/2018 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy Shit. WHere the fuck is bottom and when will we get there?

11/05/2018 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I became a detective in 2003, the clearance rate was over 60 percent. How far we have fallen. I guess I made dick in the "End of the Golden Age". Who Knew? The Department has been so poorly managed over the past 10 years or so, I think many don't know the difference.

I understand why we are, where we are. Low manpower, Two Areas closed. Remember when instead of making more detectives, they went in and folded all the youth investigators in? Investigators who had little idea of how to solve crimes, and likely didn't want to. How is this acceptable? The only train of thought I can muster is, "They have the Police Department that they wanted"

Why did they want that? And how DO these people (management) have jobs? The current clearance rate is ABYSMAL!!! Lets get some New bosses in here. They cant do any worse...Everyone I work for is a management pick. There are no supervisor bids in the D Unit. Lets drain the swamp, and start over. Preferably someone with People skills and Leadership ability. Is that so radical?

11/05/2018 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most are Random,Where the Offender has no real Connection to the Victim, Motive,Opportunity and Means...

11/05/2018 01:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well, years ago Homicide/ Shooting dicks knocked on doors and went door to door looking for leads and talking to citizens, but now they sit in the Areas waiting for tips to fall in their laps. These days citizens come to the desk complaining that they’ve left several messages for the dicks and they haven’t received a response. Desk officers call the Areas and are left on hold.

11/05/2018 02:52:00 AM

Yeah Jag off we are still knocking on doors and talking to citizens.... and NO the citizens aren't leaving messages...Example..(hey did you get my messages and victim letter? Victim: yes....well why in the hell didn't you call me back?) Desk officers left on hold? GTFOH you must be new...desk officers calling in don't even know what they have half the time or have not completed their preliminary investigation.....Back in the day the D- Unit would have you on hold forever and if you call in some BS you WILL get hung up on! Now study your law book!

11/05/2018 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's basic demographics, race, age, sex, etc. of the known offenders. Please report this.

11/05/2018 02:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"we serve and protect".

HA!

11/05/2018 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, when 40 percent of the new detectives have less than 7 or 8 years on the job it’s a problem. Many of these people have never worked without body cameras, in car cameras and GPS on the cars. That means they have never really done this job. They talk to people like robots. They’ve never really interacted with people without some kind of camera looking at them. Many of them have never had to write themselves in or out of something creatively. Many of them have done only traffic because the only arrest being made these days that they know how to do is traffic. Beat cars use to get dope, guns etc now it’s domestics and traffic. You don’t learn this job from domestics and body camera suspended drivers license arrests. I can’t tell you the last time I’ve seen a beat car on the watch cow in with some kind of arrest where paper had to be craftily written.. it just doesn’t happen anymore and it’s whats going to kill this department. Any new officer withoeas than 8 years on knows nothing about police work. These are the people who are eventually going to have to fill spots in narcotics, gangs, the D unit etc. tac teams are doing TVBs. They don’t know police work. How can they work wires in gangs? Flip C/Is when hey have no clue yet to say or how to flip someone? How to do dope surveillance? How to do a buy? How to write a warrant? How to properly maintain a C/I? How to investigate a shooting? They can’t. Nobody who is the new “body cam” police will ever be able o properly learn any of this. In 10 years all those unit spots will have to be filled with someone and it will be with people who are robots who know nothing about police work and grew up in a town in Ohio and took the cpd job to be the change. No more gritty people are gettin hired anymore who have that edge. They are all straight laced kids who grew up elsewhere and don’t know this city or how to interact with them... the department is doomed and they are doing on purpose by way of selective hiring to ensure that any connections to the cpd are severed and gone.

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this is so accurate its scary.

11/05/2018 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to the dickhead posting that it was riccio who promoted biggane to 016 . you might want to lay off the bourbon you idiot. it was mike madigan , eddie burke and fat phil decision even special ed , and riccio know she is a goof ,im white and work in 016 i would had preferred lt fenner over biggane


ps too bad riccio couldnt come back we liked him

a friend cpd 016

11/05/2018 03:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detectives are not a rank just more pay appointment as detectives time for demotions why even have vehicles unmarked put them all in uniform in marked cars they bitch like swat does you don’t do the job others are waiting! Cut the bullshit!

11/05/2018 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger stash the polski guy said...

exactly what happens when you surround yourself with no talent ass kissers.

no different than the private sector.

production heads for the toilet.

11/05/2018 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Where the hell is the kissing bandit? Haven't seen his crazy ass on here in a long time.

11/05/2018 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://youtu.be/LSPuVFWiyhY?t=28

11/05/2018 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem is not the 7-8 year DETs that made it off the list but the 10-15 yr merit detectives who have less arrests in their career than the 4 yr wonder on TAC. Yes I’m talking about the Lisa B.s who apparently need someone to follow around to figure out how to log onto Clear. I rather take the kid/gal who at least scored well and can be molded into a good DET than the merit hack who has a phone call back to wherever they crawled from after they have 200-300 cases piled up Chris.
My apologies if you’re dumber than a box of rocks to test well but the D-unit should not be a merit promotion.

11/05/2018 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) why is this asshole not locked up:

LOUIS FARRAKHAN Leads Chants of “Death to America!” in Tehran — Refers to America as “Great Satan” (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/louis-farrakhan-leads-chants-of-death-to-america-in-tehran-refers-to-america-as-great-satan-video/

11/05/2018 04:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Informational Posting:

In the last few weeks an officer was called to Random and blew over the legal limit. A Log number was generated and he was stripped as usual. What is new is that Tina Skahill ordered that he be DUI'ed. There was no accident involved. The in-car camera tapes were pulled and they looked for security footage at Headquarters to prove he was driving. We would NEVER do this to any regular person. Why would we do it to our own? Skahill's new policy when someone blows over the legal limit is to find out if the Officer drove to Random, and charge them. Her reasoning is that someone at some point may ask why we never DUI the Officer and add to the alleged "Code of Silence." These people are scared of their own shadows.

Please, if you have been drinking don't come to work. If you do come to work and get called to Random, have your partner drive. If you don't have a partner, tell your boss you need a ride. Its better to take the administrative hit for intoxication on duty alone than to take that hit as well as a DUI. Further, if you lose your license, you are put in a no pay status until you get it back.

——————
Agreed, that would have happened in the past, but those days are over.
In case you don’t remember, the police are supposed to be independent investigators and are supposed to go where the investigation leads them. You are not there to “clean up” for coppers when they step in shit. (Many a copper-and former coppers-are currently in deep shit because they tried to help a fellow officer out)

That being said, how could the Sgt NOT be DUI’D?

11/05/2018 04:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Baltimore is an autonomous city...it doesn't have a county...the city has its own states attorney's!....Baltimore City is not a part of Baltimore County!

11/05/2018 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What would happen if every single Chicagoan saw these numbers and understood what was going on? We all know what would happen. Eddie would be shown the door just like Garry Mac was shown the door. Rahm has taken advantage of the fact that people are too busy with life to even notice. As long as THEY aren't robbed or burglarized or their family member isn't murdered, then they'll never know what they don't know.

11/05/2018 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are no grownups home, nobody is in charge.

11/05/2018 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I served over 34 years on the job before retirement. Most, if not all, of the unit commanders and other exempts were sponsored by someone. I don't believe that whoever was the current superintendent of police had very many picks. However, I recall no one who was demoted based on crime and crime alone. Usually it was a clean house when a new superintendent came into office. Under Washington, there was a purge of white gold stars. One or two black exempts were demoted because they bucked the system and defied a black politician ( Mosely-Braun if I recall correctly). Now we have a Chief of Detectives. My sources tell me she refuses to meet with the families of murder victims who are upset with how the department has or has not investigated these deaths, many of which are classified as " accidental". And, the lowest homicide solve rate in the US. But, she still has her job, as do Area Commanders and deputy chiefs, none of which are affected by the terrible crime rate or arrest rate. Therefore, no pressure to make changes in tactics and procedures so nothing, in the short run changes. This " consent decree" if and when it is imposed, surely should address the political and racial politics that have torn the department apart.

11/05/2018 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My apologies if you’re dumber than a box of rocks to test well but the D-unit should not be a merit promotion.

11/05/2018 04:00:00 PM

Many years ago, before quotas and merit detectives, the detective exam consisted of four parts; the Department orders, questions from a books, " Criminal Investigation" which was written by a NYPD detective and was considered the bible for criminal investigations, logic problems to test if you have the brains and smarts to use inductive and deductive reasoning, and Illinois criminal law. The source books using what was written in the literature , I believe has been eliminated. I am not sure what is on the current examinations, but if you do not know department orders or criminal law and cannot use basic reasoning tests, then you should not be a detective. Come to think of it, you should not have a gold star. Too many merit promotions of really ignorant political hacks.

11/05/2018 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Graph also depicts morale. It was high, now it sunk to all time low.

11/05/2018 10:19:00 AM

Yes, as a long retired guy who was in homicide, I believe this to be a major part of the problem. You certainly cannot blame the average working detective. You must put the blame square where it belongs, on the political/racial politics of this city, county and state. The drive for diversity over competence if overwhelming and is driving into the dirt the very fabric of the city.There is no evidence out there, none whatsoever, that race plays a part in the competence or efficiency of police officers. Why are commanders assigned according to race ? Why can't there be a black commander of 016. a Black or a white commander of 010? or a Hispanic commander of 001. Can someone in the Mayor's office answer this question?

11/05/2018 05:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT. Anyone know if its possible to have greenslip stubs auto-forwarded to an email account? Greenslips can only be accessed on the intranet so for someone who may be on furlo, medical, etc. TIA.

11/05/2018 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Erika Harold makes me cringe when she occasionally repeats RINO memes, but Raoul would be a disaster.

11/05/2018 01:40:00 AM

Frankly, I find your comments pretty dumb. If you think Kwame sponsored any legislation on his own, then I think you really have misjudged the legislative leadership in Illinois. Kwame is just a tool for Madigan and other power players. He sponsors what he is told to sponsor and whatever law he proposes will not become law without the backing of Madigan and the signature of Rauner. Lisa Madigan failed to find a criminal politician in 15 years in office. Kwame would surely beat that record.

11/05/2018 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detectives are not a rank just more pay appointment as detectives time for demotions why even have vehicles unmarked put them all in uniform in marked cars they bitch like swat does you don’t do the job others are waiting! Cut the bullshit!

Coming from the dipshit who can't score high enough on the Detective exam.......call it what you want.....I made 200k las year.....

11/05/2018 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take fenner. We will ship her over to 016... and buy everyone in 016 Allen brothers steaks

11/05/2018 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Detectives are not a rank just more pay appointment as detectives time for demotions why even have vehicles unmarked put them all in uniform in marked cars they bitch like swat does you don’t do the job others are waiting! Cut the bullshit!

11/05/2018 03:38:00 PM

Sorry you couldn't pass the test. We love to see know it alls like you show up to the area then crash and burn. You must be a joy to work with.

11/05/2018 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You poor saps are missing the point. The graphs show that robbery and burglary are safe, profitable occupations, and that there is little to no chance of being caught and jailed. What does that tell the average shithead looking for a source of income?

11/05/2018 06:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the 2:23 poster. Spoken like a true merit hack. Get off the web and on the job you pos. No wonder nothing gets cleared these days with the likes of you working as a detective.

11/05/2018 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To those non detectives who want the detectives to knock on doors if you have been at most of these scenes the community is either yelling ,throwing items,or challenging the police to a fight. So you want the dets to go pound on doors in communities who despise the police even though they are trying to help them. For what,so they can lie to you and then you can try to run down bs info. No thanks. As the victims and the community say,we'll handle it ourselves. Just move on to the next one. Also not enough dets to handle all these shooting/homicides to do a proper investigation. The dets do a great job with what they have to work with. They can only do so much.

11/05/2018 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That chart looks more like Special Ed’s favorability.

D2a blues.
Kind of fed up with the merit bs and the dolittle-done littles on the floor.
Disband the entire Area SVU already and bolster VC/PC or it’s back to Patrol.
After all, if they can’t (or won’t try to) make it in General Assigments they stuff them into SVU anyway.
I think there’s now a waiting list.

Give the waste of time and paper, nonsensical juvenile processing to HouseMouse District CAPS - 24/7.
What do we have to lose?

Nonetheless, there’s no getting around the Sts Atty for approvals as long as there’s restorative-justice monitors that keeps moving the goal line.

11/05/2018 07:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey clueless your knocking on the wrong doors if your not getting answers. Willing to bet you spend 75% of your day at some desk composing those valuable out community alerts begging for tips. You would be more useful on street in a marked car, at least the car would get noticed and could scare off a potential criminal event. Just drive around who knows you might even get lucky and see and video a crime.

11/05/2018 07:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit, merit, merit all problems with the CPD can be traced directly back to all the merit promotions that have put unqualified people on charge. Abolish any and all merit promotions and watch things get better. Honest testing will bring out the best and brightest instead of the least but connected. The Chicago Way has ruined the CPD, CPS AND CFD.

11/05/2018 07:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well maybe some supervisors need to get launched out of the D UNIT like they used to. Those numbers are deplorable!

11/05/2018 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ALL FUTURE PROMOTIONS SHOULD BE BASED ON WHAT YOU KNOW NOT WHO YOU KNOW. Don't test well you probably won't react well under stress, no place in management for you. Sorry you future is on the streets. Life is not always fair snowflake.

11/05/2018 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus, those numbers are so bad ,it is time to promote the Chief of Dicks right out of that spot.
Send her to IAD to level off those diving graphs.
Can the ship be righted mates?

11/05/2018 07:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make sure you guy vote for anyone but this asshole Kwame and no retention for all cook county judges on ballot. If you don't you shouldn't complain about that rod that's gonna be stuck up your ass

11/05/2018 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A comment above-"you have 9 out of 10 chances getting away with murder here"- frightening!
Somewhere in another thread someone gave a name to write in against prickwinkle. Could someone repost it before tomorrow morning? Appreciate it. Thanks.

11/05/2018 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe if we all just pulled together a little harder we could make that trend turn around.

11/05/2018 08:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


These graphs should also represent the downward spiral of LEADERSHIP SKILLS
Looking at South Side districts, it’s a circle of clowns “supervisors” attempting to lead. Ha!
It’s a total embarrassment! But as we all know it’s not about doing a great job, it’s about money.
Listen closely how they talk about merit promotions, overtime, travel and getting their drink on.
It’s never about how to boost morale, encourage those they supervise or promote a good working
environment. Very sad days in CPD and we can thank the Superintendent on down. I feel for those
who work on the South Side

11/05/2018 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s “Progressive” to decimate CPD resources. According to the Democratic Machine, this is progress.

11/05/2018 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey to guys harping on the D Unit. I give you just two examples of the city and department gives us tools to do our jobs.

1. We don’t have enough cars to go out to scenes, conduct follow ups, and go to court.

2. We have 1 thats right 1 Accurint account for an entire Area. That means HGS, SVU, and RBT share one account. So if one detective is logged on running a query and another detective logs on to run their own query the first dectective gets kicked out.

Those are just two examples how inadequate the D Unit is equipped, they get the clearance rate they invest in.

11/05/2018 08:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make no mistake. "Merit" = CLOUT.

11/05/2018 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we need to be doing this more here in Chicago!

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-cleared-by-exception-20180430-story.html

11/05/2018 08:43:00 PM  
Blogger Isupportyou said...

On this election eve, I'm sitting with my ballot (early voter ballot) that I'll walk over to Washington tomorrow. I'm 3 hours in with no doubt on most, but zero confidence with judges. So, I'm researching each and every one. All 60+. I may be wrong, but it seems judges need to be voted OUT by 60% versus voted IN. I'm voting no on about 80% so far, but I'm only 1/2 way through.

Praying for a turnout tomorrow that supports CPD. Note, I read this blog every morning along with CWB and others. I've never commented or weighed in...consider me a silent majority. We're out here supporting you with votes and (from me) public support. Stay safe.

11/05/2018 08:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shows just about when that pos Rahm took over and put his agenda in place! Haha trump free zone, remember that! Keep pandering to the thugs because these idiots that are running this dept under this administration is just making my job easier and easier 👍🏽👍🏽

11/05/2018 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Hey clueless your knocking on the wrong doors if your not getting answers. Willing to bet you spend 75% of your day at some desk composing those valuable out community alerts begging for tips. You would be more useful on street in a marked car, at least the car would get noticed and could scare off a potential criminal event. Just drive around who knows you might even get lucky and see and video a crime.

Hey buddy we've solved more crime, identified more offenders and arrested more violent offenders behind the desk than you will ever know in your blue and white with the blinders on...after you wrote those terrible ass case reports! After I finished your job then I start mine bum!

11/05/2018 08:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

D unit is filled with numerous double
merit supervisors who were never Detectives. Time for theses bosses to head back patrol to make room for new blood.

11/05/2018 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OnePlus doesn't want to clash with Apple.

11/05/2018 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
To those non detectives who want the detectives to knock on doors if you have been at most of these scenes the community is either yelling ,throwing items,or challenging the police to a fight. So you want the dets to go pound on doors in communities who despise the police even though they are trying to help them. For what,so they can lie to you and then you can try to run down bs info. No thanks. As the victims and the community say,we'll handle it ourselves. Just move on to the next one. Also not enough dets to handle all these shooting/homicides to do a proper investigation. The dets do a great job with what they have to work with. They can only do so much.

11/05/2018 07:00:00 PM

Assholes like this make me sick................14% jagoff........

11/05/2018 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous A fan girl said...

OT: Where the hell is the kissing bandit? Haven't seen his crazy ass on here in a long time.
11/05/2018 03:46:00 PM

I suggest some deep undercover work *wink*wink
Know knees me fool in honor of him/her

11/05/2018 11:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another problem is that they place Sgts in the D who have never been detectives. They don’t know what fully entails an investigation, overlook and miss out on key elements on reports, etc. Why does the dept do this ? Some of these Sgts try to avoid what they are supposed to be doing altogether and dump the work on other sgts. Who know what they’re doing.

11/06/2018 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
When I became a detective in 2003, the clearance rate was over 60 percent. How far we have fallen. I guess I made dick in the "End of the Golden Age". Who Knew? The Department has been so poorly managed over the past 10 years or so, I think many don't know the difference.

I understand why we are, where we are. Low manpower, Two Areas closed. Remember when instead of making more detectives, they went in and folded all the youth investigators in? Investigators who had little idea of how to solve crimes, and likely didn't want to. How is this acceptable? The only train of thought I can muster is, "They have the Police Department that they wanted"

Why did they want that? And how DO these people (management) have jobs? The current clearance rate is ABYSMAL!!! Lets get some New bosses in here. They cant do any worse...Everyone I work for is a management pick. There are no supervisor bids in the D Unit. Lets drain the swamp, and start over. Preferably someone with People skills and Leadership ability. Is that so radical?

11/05/2018 01:48:00 PM

Funny, I was one of those Youth Investigators. I worked the crime car for years dealing with child abuse victims sometimes only days or months old. Solved a lot and felt good about it. When we were folded into the D-unit I was shocked at how poor some of you elite "Detectives" were on investigations. For some reason you think solving Ray Ray shooting Pookie or an in custody robbery with the tact team or beat guys doing all the heavy lifting before you got there made you better than us Investigators. Lots of big heads in the D-unit.

11/06/2018 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They said don't chase, so we stopped chasing.
The are short ETs, so we don't get prints.
We are short officers, so 3 times as many jobs went to call back.
What did they expect?

11/06/2018 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is all legit, remember its earned not given.

11/06/2018 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dicks in the districts are a mistake. They don't have the right mentoring or supervision, don't talk with other dicks handling similar jobs, sit in the office all day, and are simply not as effective as when everyone was in the D and working the same floor.

11/06/2018 04:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Informational Posting:

In the last few weeks an officer was called to Random and blew over the legal limit. A Log number was generated and he was stripped as usual. What is new is that Tina Skahill ordered that he be DUI'ed. There was no accident involved. The in-car camera tapes were pulled and they looked for security footage at Headquarters to prove he was driving. We would NEVER do this to any regular person. Why would we do it to our own? Skahill's new policy when someone blows over the legal limit is to find out if the Officer drove to Random, and charge them. Her reasoning is that someone at some point may ask why we never DUI the Officer and add to the alleged "Code of Silence." These people are scared of their own shadows.

Please, if you have been drinking don't come to work. If you do come to work and get called to Random, have your partner drive. If you don't have a partner, tell your boss you need a ride. Its better to take the administrative hit for intoxication on duty alone than to take that hit as well as a DUI. Further, if you lose your license, you are put in a no pay status until you get it back.

——————
Agreed, that would have happened in the past, but those days are over.
In case you don’t remember, the police are supposed to be independent investigators and are supposed to go where the investigation leads them. You are not there to “clean up” for coppers when they step in shit. (Many a copper-and former coppers-are currently in deep shit because they tried to help a fellow officer out)

That being said, how could the Sgt NOT be DUI’D?


There is no need to DUI him. We took administrative action. We don't file a case report for battery and lock up policemen every time someone puts in a complaint for misdemeanor excessive force. We handle the those cases administratively. We normally only go for criminal charges for felonies. We also have discretion in charging. Finally, you ask how could he not be charged? We haven't charged anyone over the years. Its a past and best practice. If anyone were to ask (Though no one ever has. Don't worry so much about the "what if's." We shouldn't live in fear), we would explain that the investigation is being handled administratively and the accused will face disciplinary action. We could also explain that the officer is getting the same treatment that a civilian would receive, and not better or worse.

11/06/2018 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the 10th time, Staples was never a working Police Officer. How can you lead and inspire people to do a job, yet, you have never come close to learning the fundamentals of the very job you want them to do. I highly doubt Staples ever processed a felony arrest with her name in box one. She may be a wonderful person, she may be concerned about the welfare of the troops, but she never experienced being a street cop. She never put together an investigation, whether it be a preliminary investigation or an indepth detective’s investigation. It certainly is not her fault as Chief of Detectives, that clearance rate is sow low, the “community” is at fault for that. However, for reasons described above, The Chief of Detectives surely is helping matters.

11/06/2018 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Detectives are not a rank just more pay appointment as detectives time for demotions why even have vehicles unmarked put them all in uniform in marked cars they bitch like swat does you don’t do the job others are waiting! Cut the bullshit!

Coming from the dipshit who can't score high enough on the Detective exam.......call it what you want.....I made 200k las year.....

11/05/2018 05:55:00 PM

“ I made 200k las year...”
200k, that’s great! But did you clear any cases?

11/06/2018 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detectives dropped off at crime scenes by a Sgt. because no cars.
Witnesses unable to be held or even brought into the area without their permission.
48 hours to approve charges and a states attorney office that wants every person observed on video tracked down and questioned.
Felony review that tries the case at the area, working out possible motions by the defense
Felony review that keeps cooperating witnesses and victims sitting for hours, having to tell the story over and over until they get frustrated and leave.
Video, video, video....if it's not on video it can't be proven mentality by the ASA.
Pretty much every felony in custody put under ERI.
Everyone lawyers up....under ERI.
Witnesses and victims refuse to cooperate once offender in custody. Subpoenas issued, then they refuse in front of a grand jury.
No one "on the block" wants to be seen talking to the police, those that do have nothing to say or give false information.
Victims that tell you to fuck off.
Then theres the social media aspect, body cameras, in car cameras, pods, private security cameras, traffic cameras. All needed to be reviewed, saved and followed up on.

Then you're given another shooting / homicide.
And it starts all over again.

Not enough manpower, but mainly management that were never detectives. They don't understand and don't care what it takes to put together a case.
Many instances of sgt's being informed of follow up steps needed to be done but told to handle another job because "it's easy heard shots felt pain".

11/06/2018 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another problem is that they place Sgts in the D who have never been detectives. They don’t know what fully entails an investigation, overlook and miss out on key elements on reports, etc. Why does the dept do this ? Some of these Sgts try to avoid what they are supposed to be doing altogether and dump the work on other sgts. Who know what they’re doing.

11/06/2018 12:15:00 AM


VERY TRUE

11/06/2018 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHY wasn't Special Ed included in the three POs from the Mc Donald case? Wasn't he the one who approved the reports ???

11/06/2018 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another detective class will solve everything. You guys in Area One will love my designer ties. Any word on next class?

11/06/2018 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, when 40 percent of the new detectives have less than 7 or 8 years on the job it’s a problem. Many of these people have never worked without body cameras, in car cameras and GPS on the cars. That means they have never really done this job. They talk to people like robots. They’ve never really interacted with people without some kind of camera looking at them..........

Funny, I was one of those Youth Investigators. I worked the crime car for years dealing with child abuse victims sometimes only days or months old. Solved a lot and felt good about it. When we were folded into the D-unit I was shocked at how poor some of you elite "Detectives" were on investigations. For some reason you think solving Ray Ray shooting Pookie or an in custody robbery with the tact team or beat guys doing all the heavy lifting before you got there made you better than us Investigators. Lots of big heads in the D-unit.........

While I agree that there is some truth to these statements, that is far from the only problem. Policing in this day and age has affected every unit in the department. Police are the enemy nowadays. Victims and witnesses will not cooperate, then when they do, it takes an act of God for the State's Attorney to charge the offender, and if the offender does get charged, some judge will release them back to the "community" with affordable bail so as to not violate their "civil rights". Its a cycle that has been gaining momentum for years. Moreover the same "community" that is suffering the most, is the one that will not help the police. This place is gone to shit!!!!!!

11/06/2018 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger Barney Fife said...

I really don't know how you can blame a supervisor in the D-Unit. I am completely indifferent to them really. Some good, some bad, some lazy, some not, some clouted, some not -so what? They are pretty much just administrative and I wouldn't want them telling me how to investigate a case anyway - and they usually don't. What I don't like is when some other det. does some lazy BS on a job which makes my job harder, and that Supervisor will not call them out on it - at the very least make them aware it's BS. But as far as a supervisor having any effect on the clearance rate - not so much.

I'll tell you what does have an effect - a no chase policy. Even when you can chase, I don't blame patrolman one iota for not wanting to chase. I wouldn't chase either, not in these times. The downside is far worse than the upside. A lot of these robberies used to be solved by patrol, plain and simple. Now they are not. Stolen cars are remaining stolen for a month now. A month. And the cars are not parked, they are being driven ALL OVER THE CITY during that month. Kind of hard to catch a car jacker when we have a de facto Duty to Retreat. And they know it. Se have snow flakes making every effort to decide whether we should be able to keep our careers. Every action, every bad word will be judged by some FB group of androgynous social justice warriors. So I cannot blame patrol for looking the other way. That's the police department the liberals have been trying to build since I came on over 20+ yrs. ago. Well ... this is it. But to say it is because of some crappy Sgt. in the D? Nah.

And to say there are not enough detectives - I don't agree with that either. I can't swing a dead cat without hitting a detective I've never even seen before. Maybe they are too young and inexperienced, but there are plenty of them now it seems.

It's the bodycams, squad car cams, ERI cams, the ACLU, Harvey Grossman, Kim Foxx, Tom Dart, Rahm Emmanuel, phony consent decrees, Ferguson lies, the false premise that police are the problem, the lie that blacks are 'victim's' of racist street stops, the fact that liberals cannot deal with the reality that blacks simply do punch above their weight in every nation they inhabit in regards to crime. It's ALL OF IT ALL HAPPENING AT ONCE. Complex systems change abruptly.

So ya there are some lazy, arrogant do-nothing detectives - always has been. Same. Same. But this is different in kind, and I hope it gets better. But stop blaming each other because I have seen some embarrassing shit on both sides: patrol/ D- Unit - but the blame belong on the liberal attempt at Utopianism in the space of what, 2 years? That's too much, too fast. Put a body cam on Rahm and see how much he gets done.

End of rant ----

11/06/2018 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Another problem is that they place Sgts in the D who have never been detectives. They don’t know what fully entails an investigation, overlook and miss out on key elements on reports, etc. Why does the dept do this ? Some of these Sgts try to avoid what they are supposed to be doing altogether and dump the work on other sgts. Who know what they’re doing.

11/06/2018 12:15:00 AM

Don’t exclude the sergeants that were a detective for a hot minute, but are brought back to supervise veteran detectives with minimal investigative experience. The job isn’t learned in a year or two...especially if you were a half-assing, know-it-all, ain’t done shit copper. You fucks know who you are too

11/06/2018 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have the final solution to the CPD brass problem. Everyday at 4:00 gather all the top brass at HQ and watch Blue Bloods, see how a big city police force should be run. The show deals with all the problems plague the CPD, see how a real chief deals with all the problems that Ex dodges. After each show hold a discussion of what was just learned. I know it is a show but the problems that are dealt with are real and the solutions to those problems are enlightening. Somehow CPD does everything counter to what is portrayed on show. Lots to be learned abut people skills and management techniques. Just for grins tune into Amazon series Flashpoint and see how a SWAT should operate. Yes it is TV but topics are relevant and timely. If only Frank Reagan or some with his backbone was in charge of the CPD. Strength of character, integrity and common sense smarts are his trademarks, these same trademarks are sadly lacking in the current CPD management team. Maybe just maybe all the Chicago merit promoting has something to do with it. It is not best and brightest it is least but connected in charge.

11/06/2018 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop blaming the community for the Detectives incompetence. Same community several years ago when clearances were around 50%. What changed leadership vacuum created by elevating Staples to a leadership position. She couldn't lead starving people thru a door to a buffet. You all like the Baltimore analogy, many if not all of Chicago problems, gangs, community trust, media hate and police hating judges and ASA's. But somehow they were able to post a 45+% homicide clearance rate. Hire the Baltimore Detective Chief someway he or she found a way to have his staff get results. The CPD Detective Unit has a leadership or lack thereof issue. She has had her tome and failed at all levels time for a change.

11/06/2018 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Detectives are not a rank just more pay appointment as detectives time for demotions why even have vehicles unmarked put them all in uniform in marked cars they bitch like swat does you don’t do the job others are waiting! Cut the bullshit!

Coming from the dipshit who can't score high enough on the Detective exam.......call it what you want.....I made 200k las year.....

11/05/2018 05:55:00 PM

“ I made 200k las year...”
200k, that’s great! But did you clear any case?

You better pick up your game if you only made 200K. Your not near the top. One guy made 283K

11/06/2018 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everybody is making excuses for the clearance rate, lazy detectives, community doesn't participate, Eddie is a lousy leader, blah, blah. All true.

But here's what nobody has said yet (I don't believe): The voters are at fault. They take all the blame. If the voters cared, there would be an outcry from the community like you've never heard before. If they gave a shit, they would be massive protesting on the street, not for pink pussies, but for heads to roll. I'm talking about REAL protesting, not just jamming up the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy for an hour or two. If the public cared, they'd demand change, and they'd get it. But listen. Do you hear that? What you hear is nothing. Look at the streets, nobody is protesting.

So, bottom line. The voters don't give a rat's ass. The truth is they don't even know how bad it is. And so they made their bed, now they have to sleep in it. The public pay their taxes. Coppers get paid. The asshole aldermen get paid. The asshole judges and states attorneys get paid. And Chicago continues it's downward spiral into the abyss while all of us, including the clueless voters, continue to live in this shit hole and call it home.

11/06/2018 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO merit promotions to Detective!

11/06/2018 09:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
For the 10th time, Staples was never a working Police Officer. How can you lead and inspire people to do a job, yet, you have never come close to learning the fundamentals of the very job you want them to do. I highly doubt Staples ever processed a felony arrest with her name in box one. She may be a wonderful person, she may be concerned about the welfare of the troops, but she never experienced being a street cop. She never put together an investigation, whether it be a preliminary investigation or an indepth detective’s investigation. It certainly is not her fault as Chief of Detectives, that clearance rate is sow low, the “community” is at fault for that. However, for reasons described above, The Chief of Detectives surely is helping matters.

11/06/2018 09:13:00 AM
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151214/west-town/ex-west-town-cmdr-melissa-staples-promoted-deputy-chief-role/

“Staples, who earns an annual salary of $162,684, according to city records, is currently in her 25th year of service to the Chicago Police Department and has worked in the Patrol Division, Organized Crime Division and the Detective Bureau. She has served the Department in a supervisor capacity as a Tactical and Gang Sergeant, a Tactical Lieutenant, Commanding Officer the Area Four Detective Division and the Department’s Asset Forfeiture Unit.

“Before being tapped to lead the Near West District at 1412 S. Blue Island Ave. in 2012, Staples, who was a familiar presence at Chicago Alternative Policing Strategy (CAPS) meetings, previously served as a commander in the North Side's 17th District.

Staples, who also lives in the West Town area, helped to lead a team that arrested a prominent Satan Disciples gang member two months after taking charge.

11/07/2018 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares about clearance rates. Det's are fetal too.

11/07/2018 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All this Staples bashing is ridiculous. A great boss that helps coppers out and doesn’t micro manage. Do you guys want some full metal gunny sgt jagoff screaming in people’s faces? This is along the lines of giving coppers a brick of gold and they’ll bitch it’s too heavy. Just stop and appreciate an easy going big boss within a crumbling police department.

11/07/2018 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dicks in the districts are a mistake. They don't have the right mentoring or supervision, don't talk with other dicks handling similar jobs, sit in the office all day, and are simply not as effective as when everyone was in the D and working the same floor.

11/06/2018 04:42:00 AM

VERY TRUE. They call the never been a dick sergeant that gives them the WRONG advice. And the case crumbles. Over and over again. Have seen it and can’t believe what the detective division has turned into. A TOTAL hack nest!!!

11/09/2018 12:49:00 AM  

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