Bad Casino Plan
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Wednesday floated a port district site on the Far Southeast Side as the possible location for a Chicago casino, if state lawmakers finally grant the city the long-sought gambling palace.
In a meeting with the Chicago Tribune Editorial Board, Emanuel noted his “love-hate” relationship with the idea of a casino but said if the city finally builds one it should be away from the Loop and McCormick Place. Instead, he said it should bring economic development to an area of the city that needs it, before floating an Illinois International Port District site near Pullman as “an example.”
Sure. Go somewhere where there's absolutely zero economic attraction to the neighborhood. What a great fucking idea! Why bother having it near the downtown or convention areas where tourists looking for dinner and a show might head over and spend a little money - Chicago can build it near an EPA Superfund site AND the second most homicide prone area of the city and reap the benefits!
A quick Google search shows exactly what type of idea this would be:
A quick Google search shows exactly what type of idea this would be:
- A Good Way to Wreck a Local Economy: Build Casinos
- Why Opening a Casino Is a Terrible Idea
- New casinos won't have huge economic impact in New York state
Casinos tend to make money for the shareholders, not the communities they occupy. And a Chicago casino would be extremely late to the party making us wonder what, if any, monetary impact there might be on our pension fund. Not that Chicago shouldn't try - but try harder than this guaranteed failure.
UPDATE: Exhibit A: Comiskey Park (or whatever they call it now) - bad product in a bad neighborhood with pretty much zero curb appeal.
UPDATE: Exhibit A: Comiskey Park (or whatever they call it now) - bad product in a bad neighborhood with pretty much zero curb appeal.
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
159 Comments:
Open season on casino patrons is not "economic development".
Why not build a casino or casinos next to the Obama Library ?????
Hey Ram, just open an open air drug parlor... it would have the least negative effects on the shit hole known as ShiCongo... Casino is a shit idea, especially since all the proceeds will go to fund democrat nonsense— and not the pensions
That’s got be the worst possible location for a casino to be successful. No one will travel there to gamble Especially people staying downtown on business travel. Wow how stupid. Put it downtown and it will boom! The people are already there. It’s a no-brainer
I'll bet a 100 bucks that this whole plan is going to fail!
Brilliant idea, just brilliant, build a brand new casino next to an existing casino! Dumb , dumb, dumb! At least the roads go to Indiana.
The problem is not with the casinos or the location. It’s with the fact that the city will not open a Casino that is under the control of the Illinois Gaming board. The insist that the state allow them to create a Chicago gaming board with members appointed by the Mayor to watch over the hiring and firing of everyone from the dealers to the maintenance contracts (google Simon). The city which is dirty as Sh#t wants to compile an appointed board to make sure everything is on the up and up. Can you say DV Urban gaming tables?
What a nice guy. He wants to help the community with non existent new jobs and non existent community growth. Wonder if the community will see thru his crap.
Unless he puts it in a shithole neighborhood, the Revrun's are gonna whine about everything. There will be protests, strikes, etc. and jack shit will get built in under 5 years...
This way he can claim he did something for da communitie, they can steal all the shit they want, get a few jobs, the Democratic machine can fat-envelope it to death, and when it doesn't make any money, he can claim he tried... The whole thing will get shutdown, picked clean by scrappers, and they'll turn out their pockets and say "Sorry, no money for da pensions!"...
Isn’t that the same area where they wanted to finally build us an outdoor range but supposedly found an eagles nest by the river so Rahm said no? Even though all he had to do is get a special permit from the federal government. Even after being cleared by numerous “environmental and noise impact studies” that the anti-police and anti-gun groups and environmentalists and “activists” threw at us. Are the environmental nut jobs and community activists going to put up legal roadblocks and demand impact studies for a casino and hotels? Yeah right. If you believe that then I can get you a great deal on wood fire escapes. Something smells funny and it’s not the Little Calumet river.
-Southside Sergeant
And speaking of Rahm: The Tucker Carlson Show (FOX News) Thur. 13 Dec 18 (the segment is now on youtube and is about 20 minutes into the program if you don't want to watch the whole show). "Is A Chicago Judge Siding With Criminals?" A former prosecutor comments about a murder case in Judge Carol B. Howard's courtroom "Room 203 set them free" in which she finds 3 defendants not guilty after disregarding the evidence. And Rahm's approach to funding the pension crisis by destroying its citizens lives with drugs and gambling. Watch it, you will enjoy it especially knowing Rahm and Howard won't!!!
Wouldn’t it be racist to put a casino in a poor minority neighborhood? It looks like the city is trying to make money off those with the least. Wouldn’t it be better to put in a Whole Foods or some other place that doesn’t further victimize the community?
Did you see Ja Ba the Pritzker speaking after the new governors meeting with Trump today. He thinks he will be able to work with Trump in bringing federal money to Illinois. This guy is stupid, does he remember all the Trump bashing he and the rest of the Democrat rats did. And remember the Trump for President rally in Chicago that could not take place and Trump had to leave. Trump should make them do some heavy penance.
Put that casino on the old south works site in South
Chicago. Lake front property and easy access to downtown
or Indiana. Build it and they will come . What a waste of great
lakefront property. And screw the shareholders, the city should
be the only shareholder or owner. Security should be the Chicago
Police Department (off duty) in uniform and scale wages. And hire
Chicago residents. Win Win situation. And be cigar friendly .
Exactly!! All valid points, also why attempt to build a casino so close to 2 Indiana casinos? Who is going to want to travel to the east side to gamble? There is a reason the Rivers is the most profitable casino in Illinois, 1. Easy access off 294, 2. Right next to shopping, sports venue and dining. Its not located in a crime ridden neighborhood..............Plus we all know anytime they try to generate any new kind of revenue stream, the money never goes to what it was created for.
WEED is the new casino!
screw all that gambling tax the west side will smoke up all that delicious revenue.
Gambling is 10 years to late.
More than a day late (national level)
If opened, probably finished during a severe recession
Ask Trump how lucrative the casino is when the general public
has no disposable income
It's all about timing
I would think the city would want to attract people that are not going to the casinos already. So a casino is built near Indiana to stop Illinois gamblers from crossing into Indiana? SSC, as usual you are right.
This casino proposal has nothing to do with paying off pension obligations or helping a community. The only ones making any money on this are the politicians. It’s the Chicago way.
Simply Brilliant, I wouldn't go to there if they ran a honest game and in Chicago nothing is honest. They will probably use the remaining pension funds to build it like they raped the Teamsters pension years ago.
Yes, Chicago is late to the casino party. If it was going to be built, it should have been built ten years ago, but I am sure shortshanks was not going to get a big enough cut from it, otherwise he would have rammed it through the legislature. And, if they do build it, who is going to go to the southeast side of the side. The only thing that will happen is that the casino will dry up the SSI and welfare checks of the local neighbors.
He is a J.O. Yea, put it in Englewood. Tourist will flock there. The ghetto cannot keep a store open without plex glass.
I was just thinking what else can I do at 0355 because of my insomnia that comes and goes? I know, I will drive to the casino down Torrence Ave. Hilarious. Only democrat politicians who seldom hold jobs in the real economy can come up with stupid shit like this We do not want to promote heavy manufacturing jobs in that arm pit of the city, we want to sell weed and poker chips and tax both.
i say go ahead and build the fucker.
'find' the money and then finance the shit out of it.
that superfund site is just a minor irritant. just pave everything.
When can we stop trying to hand everything to communities that shit all over it?
You want a Target store? Target opens a store. It loses more money than feasible to stay open, so it needs to close. Well closing it is racist apparently. So march on a store that is bleeding revenue to stay open. Own worst enemy.
And this city bends over backwards to give certain communities every opportunity, and yet those same communities don’t care.
The taxpayers are tired of funding this nonsense. Seriously.
Do something that makes sense for a fucking change, and fund the pensions in the process.
Or give the south side a walking ATM from patrons leaving the casino.
Just wait until 6 weeks after it’s open some tourist gets killed in a robbery attempt, that’d be GREAT national news.
You’re already bringing the problems downtown, why not just bring the victims to them?
Only in Chicago would they put a major draw for locals with extra spending money, and out of towners looking to throw money away, in the ghetto.
They should puts it by the closed Regal Theater so that community get jobs, tourists to rob & benefits!
Will alderman Burke handout the contracts for the casino?
Ideal Location..City can utilize existing infrastructure to move this proposal forward.
1. Casino can be located on the abandoned grain boat that has been slowly sinking for the last ten years.
2. Abandoned grain silos can be restructured as an adventure location for the unwitting.
3. Hunting licenses can be offered to those that want to shot and kill the large rats inhabiting the location.
4. These ideas can be adopted by Chicago Port Authority commissioners, who will then demand that they deserve a large bump in their compensation for making all this possible.
People will still go to Indiana to gamble......they also fill up there gas tank, buy smokes and groceries for 1/2 the price of corrupt Il.
Casino gambling has been legal in Illinois for 30 years, the owners of the existing ones don’t want one downtown, who are they and why do they wield such power.
Have Elon (irrational) Musk Build the tunnel to no where to the casino. Two stops only to cut down on robberies. K(ss checks)J to run security .Drunken cta workers to drive and maintain them.DV enterprise to be the employee of the count room. United for the clean up crew. Should all go well.
You people miss the point. The casinos attract the criminal element. Go see the clientele at the Horseshoe at all hours. Do you want the drug dealers. hoes and gangbangers downtown or at McCormick place all day and night? Smarten up.
As someone's already suggested, make it a "two-fer": Obama Casino & Center, complete with basketball court and tournament golf course. Imagine big while sparing Jackson Park. Throw in a Pritzker Hyatt. Everyone's a winner.
Comiskey Park in a bad neighborhood? I walk there from Beatrice's.
Letting Rahm pick where the casino goes is like letting an alcoholic choose his type of rehab. Hes been one abortion after another. In the words of the great Gunny Highway "dont go away mad, just go away."
Ghetto casino...now that's a money maker.
This is what happens when government taxes and regulates the private sector into extinction. It is sad when governments raise revenue through its citizen's demise. Lots of money to be raised by the legalization of the gateway drug of choice marijuana. Lots of compulsive, degenerate gamblers who fool themselves always are on the winning streak putting their families financial well being on the line.
Government and specifically politicians are all about the money and the power derived from all that money. And yes, politicians get rich too! Lots of contract for the chosen by the political anointed. Its a win-win for the party-in-control's ruling elite.
Typical chicago stupid...
Comiskey Park in a bad neighborhood? You can’t even buy a new house there for less than $650,000. Hell empty lots are going for $200,000.
The real gangsters created the pension crisis by not investing properly, borrowing against it, and not keeping it funded as mandated by state law, now they are using the "crisis" to justify higher taxes, casinos, and legal cannabis. Even if these "solutions" generated the money we need to have a subtainable pension no way the gangsters will ever fund the pension. They will always find more ways to bankrupt the system while lining their pockets, example; how and why does Chicago need to get involved with 1-2 billon dollar deal with musk to drill a tunnel from ohare to downtown, in the last couple months of a mayor no one wants? there should citywide protests about this one!
Former FBI mob investigator Wm. Roemers book about Accardo contains a letter written by Wm. Jahoda, reformed outfit gambling honcho to the Chicago crime commission about how bad an idea putting a casino in Chicago is. Among the many reasons he states is "converging from six continents will be every pimp, burglar, grifter, car thief, booster, arsonist, counterfeiter, whore, dope dealer, con man, hi-jacker, extortionist, and worse making an equally perverse pilgrimage toward those same beguiling neon beacons." He forgot demorat politicians.
The two failing Casino Boats in Gary were just sold again. The rumor is that the new company wants to sell the two Casinos to a Chicago group and move them into Illinois. The Gary Boats have been complete failure. No one in their right mind wanted to travel to Gary with gambling money in their pocket.
Tax abortions in The City at 100% and that can fix every financial woe....
9 1/2 : stupid man, stupid ideas
Ran this city farther into the ground than any Daley ever could......at least THEY didn't condone lawlessness.......
But he will survive with his millions......he will find some Democrat schmuck who will put him on the board of some
money-making business, or go help his Obamacare creating brother fleece the rest of the middle class with insurance payments
of $3000-$5000 a month while the "indigent" and "illegal" get that Expanded Medicaid free......
No way in hell anyone staying downtown or near O'hare airport trucks all the way out there to gamble.
What about the Michael Reese property?
I haven’t heard anything about the city shoehorning their way into the sports gambling areana. USSC legalized it last year, and I’ve read it’ll be legal in the state by June. People are going to be betting from their phones, and don’t have to travel to wherever this proposed casino would be. Chicago needs to find a way to shoehorn their way into that.
Englewood is a great idea. CTA bus and "L" friendly and an area of robberies and thefts to keep the thugs" away from the wildings in the Loop and northside.
Why build so close to trump casino and horseshoe? I’d build a navy pier type casino off of lakeshore drive - maybe create an additional pier near McCormick place, north ave beach, Hyde park, or the now defunct meigs field. Like everyone has said, we’re late to the casino party. How will Chicago’s casino stand out, attract business and stay attractive? Hard to do now.
If you go to that casino you ARE gambling...with your life.
Many of the gamblers would go past it because you can smoke in the Indiana casinos. You would have to have it away from the Indiana casinos so there’s no competition.
Ride down Torrence Ave from 103rd St to 131st St. you think you are on the moon. Nothing grows there because of the cancer causing environment of old steel mills. Further east there is a golf course that has been trying to get business type golfers from downtown and is nearly in receivership despite it being right next to the expressway. The course is the only one in the country with no trees because the entire region is the highest cancer rate in the country.
Well said SCC, I suppose this is what we should expect, this desperation from the Dems who’ve ruled for decades, with no Amazon .
Chicago needs an income tax.
Casinos will generate nothing -- we are saturated with gambling and the trend is to close casinos (see Atlantic City problems).
Legalized drugs will generate next to nothing -- the black market of untaxable drugs will only expand as they become legal, and the government will not be able to compete.
City income tax is, along with property tax jacks, the only solution.
Taxpayers won't mind. After all, they keep voting for Dems.
That site at the international port on Lake Calumet was deepened, expanded, and prepared for a casino operation before Indiana's first casino went into operation. Nothing new.
Let's go for safe, strongly board of health regulated legal prostitution.
This would be a big $ tax revenue money maker as state gambling is saturated, but hey legal prostitution - just in rural areas of Nevada.
The Beatles song "Ticket to Ride" is about legal prostitution in Hamburg Germany - girls that passed the VD test by the board of health were given...
A ticket to ride.
Honest prostitution is so much better than bitter feminism. Let's ban feminism and legalize, safe prostitution.
Did you hear about the county taxing the parking app.? If you use one of the apps. That locate a parking space for you, you will now pay a county tax for that! Never enough!
They didn’t say if the tax increases if your drinking a Coke or Pepsi while using the app.!
Off topic SCC...ALERT ALERT ALERT.
Let me tell u a tale. Spread the word.
So the Johnson twins, 1 under federal investigaion and the other soon to be, arranged last year to hold THIS years CPD xmas party jointly( 011+ 007 ) at the same terrible location downtown. Fast forward to 2018 and neither commander is running these shitholes, yet since the deposit was made both districts are stuck. So us blue shirts are pressured to by a $65 ticket ( or work a late car). Then it turns out 1 of the Districts didn't pay the venue on time so for first 2 hours its a CASH BAR ONLY.
9$ BEERS 12$ WELL- DRINKS.
Hilarious right?
So to top it off we were given placards to place in our vehicles for "COURTESY" parking only to find out some meter maid is hammering people with tickets left and right.
Merry fucking Christmas.
Now go get us some blue cards.
what ever happened to 5 slots in bars and restaurants ect. suburbs are making money hand over fist with that use the city end for pensions
whatever happened to 5 slot in each bar and restaurants and big gas stations ect burbs are making money hand over fist use the profits from the city end for the pension but NO we want our own casino
Is Rahm pushing it now because he has post-mayoral career lined up?
If Rahm gets his way with opening up the Constitution to change the pension wording for the cola (not CPD CFD)ALL pensions going forward will be on 401k.
There are 10 casinos licensed by the state containing around 10,000 slot machines total, these slot machines account for roughly 80% of the casino's revenue with table games bringing in the remaining 20% .As of November 2018 there are 30,735 VGT (slot machines) located outside of casinos in the state (taverns, restaurants and alike) this was the equivalent of opening 30 new casinos in the state. Casino revenue has been dropping ever since the state allowed slot machines off site. Notice how no other community is asking for a casino license anymore? No financial backers due to declining revenue but Chicago politicians are willing to bet your pension on what they see as a sure bet.
Information source http://www.igb.illinois.gov/
I totally agree. Makes no sense to build it that far from downtown.
If it’s such a great location put the library there and put the casino in Jackson Park.
Pandering to the voting base is the democratic way.
Question ? If he is not running for Mayor, Why is he now "so involved" in all this drama ? The Casino, The Pension Fund, The Illinois Constitution, etc etc etc. What is he trying to prove ?
the only reason that the city does not have a casino by now is that no one in the Illinois Gaming Board trusted Shortshanks to keep his fingers & his friends out of walking away with money.
Off Topic: did you see this SCC? Rahma-Crimeesha-cide taking its toll. No wonder Apple just told Rahm to f**# off. Better 110 degrees in the shade in Austin than here.
https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/chicago-exodus-sees-city-shrink-by-156-daily-demographic-trends#gs.nSnws34
Mucho owned city vacant land (the old Michael Reese campus) comes to mind
Isn't there a casino in Hammond, like 10 minutes from there? Why build next to competition where taxes are cheaper.
Also, lot of other factors with SOX PARK. Reinsdorf has refusal rights for any liquor licence within 2 block. Thus, no bars within 2 blocks. Took 20 some years to get the metra stop. Until a couple years ago, Wrigley was like the second biggest tourist attraction in the state, people weren't going for baseball. The Sox do not have a tourist attraction and have had worse management than the CPD.
Not to mention the number of people that would get robbed and/or shot, leaving the place!!
A whole new cottage industry of “custom” valet parking ! Y’all need ta git out da car !
Keep in mind this is an area that defines economic development as "easy crime victims".
Chicago - Turning food deserts into Desert Inns.
Detroit had the same idea - the four block area surrounding their casino is well lit and has high security. But walk to the next block or to a parking garage just outside of the area and BAM (literally) - you're a moving target for robbery, rape, assault and murder. Yeah Rahm, I'd love to go to that south side casino, flashing a roll of ten dollar bills and waving my credit card around. It's faster than using pills to commit suicide.
Got to be kidding. In Englewood even the EWOOD residents won't go. Car Kacie in parking lot b4 and after your visit. First gambling money stolen then winnings after winners targeted by cage workers. Great plan, b4ing the victims to community to be raped, robbed and shot.
The casino will be flooded with degenerate dead beat gamblers and scammers from the south and west sides. Not to mention the misguided youts that will continue their chaotic behavior. Can’t have that element mingling with the tourists Gold Coast crowd. Rahm knows this so put it in a shithole neighborhood and let the shitheads have it. The money will still flow and that’s all that matters. He can dress it up as progress and jobs for the community blah blah blah. And at the same time keeping the poor...poor.
So who owns the land and who will build it? That's where the money will be made and that won't go to the pensions. The fix will again be in.
Tourists staying downtown aren't going to the Horseshoe, or Rivers. A casino downtown would tap that market.
Third and fourth generation welfare leeches taking all those casino jobs?
If you gotta have a fucking casino in the first place, then why not do it big? Build an island out in the lake maybe a couple miles offshore and put it there. Great view of the skyline. Either build a toll road out to it or run ferries. Make the island big enough to support a few hotels, maybe an amusement park. Then tax the hell out of the rubes who go there.
Rule #1 in business, Location Location Location. Or is that three rules? My God is this guy dumb!
It has to be downtown to be successful. It will attract shoppers, visitors for pleasure, suburban people who are dining, local business people and most importantly people in town for business or pleasure. Being downtown is the attraction! It’s the atmosphere and optics of it. It’s also very convenient. Traveling outside downtown is not convenient and very unappealing. No one will drive, cab or take CTA to leave their hotel or the atmosphere of downtown for a Southside casino. If I were at a show or dinner downtown with my wife we may consider stopping in at a downtown casino but would never travel south after a show to go to one. We’d be heading home. Rahm is not a very savy business man if he doesn’t know this. No other casino can compete with a downtown casino. It’s unique. What a dope
Poster 12:5 AM is 100% correct. It will not happen. The Illinois Gaming Commission will not give up control to the city. Until this occurs, put a fork into it. The City wants to control the contracts, who gets what position, and who manages the money. The State will not give that up. Sorry boys and girls not going to happen
Comiskey Park will be the holding center when Chicago
gets its very own Katrina. Ya won't have anyone around
so stupid as to say "It's better than what they have at home."
Rahm’s a looser, the people in power are not going to follow a looser with serious credability issues.
City purchased land south of McCormick place for olympics , build it there . Close to lake front , trains , CTA , conventions , auto and trade shows . Close to loop . It’s a win win
Put a few head shops for the legalized marijuana nearby .
Bingo , pensions are fully funded within a few years , more jobs created fie Chicago .
Nobody wants to go to the South side, If they're heading that way, just keep going to Indiana.
Build on polluted land (it’s for the Kids) or condemn the land, force Finkl & Sons back out again, take in big EPA cleanup sub-contracts and then find out 20 years from now who actually owns the land Lame Phuck Rahm wants to peddle.
Sterling Bay might be eyeing a deal destined to fail, if the get that TIF down payment upfront again.
No surprise Alderthief Beales likes the idea.. corrupt land grabber probably put down 30¢ an acre for the entire shithole lot into a trust.
Remember that quick close Michael Reese Hospital scam, taxpayers might still be paying the nut for a losing deal gone sour.
All of a sudden Rahm has all the solutions. Never mind he made all his uninherited money while being in an elected position and of course with the help of financial board appointments by The Clintons. Rahm the Finance Wiz Kid doesn’t have a basic economics minor let alone an MBA, no background in city planning or even poli-sci background. Some reformer, like Prickwrinkle.
Full fledged documented community activist is about all he’s been.
Why is the FakeNews giving this quitter all the attention?
Far more than making money, casinos function best to LAUNDER money. While it is decent paying JOBS that will help an area grow economically, and of course BANKERS will cha ching and cha ching, the politicians are starting to see that this monster has grown so much that technology itself risks them being exposed. Face it, people can track money better than ever before. Risk of being caught is HIGH.
Add a new upgrade to the Machine and buy some more time. Laundry machine in particular added buys even more time. This is why putting it in "bad" neighborhoods is advantageous to their ends. Placed there, it is harder to watch the goings on from outside s it pertains to comings and goings. It also aids the couriers because it is tough for low rent flunky couriers to not look out of place in "good" neighborhoods.
Of course it has to be built there , how else will all the Crooks be able to snatch up the cheap land and then resell it back............
Any location other than the 001/018 District (Downtown Business District) would be just plain dumb, that is why it will not be in either of these districts.
https://www3.forbes.com/business/these-10-cities-are-on-the-brink-of-a-serious-housing-crisis/11/
I know what will help the city's housing market!! Higher taxes, gambling, weed, political shakedowns, wildings, car jackings and criminals out on "home monitoring." What could possibly go wrong.
Chicago is #4 on list of upcoming housing crisis. Rahm and the Dems wont be happy until it is #1. Move over Newark, there soon will be a new leader of the pack!!!
I can just see the many bodies that will be dropping close to this shit hole. Let the bodies hit the flooor!
If absolutely any coppers including the backward baseball cap wearing, skinny jeans, lifted wrangler, punisher sticker does any pro-active police work your out of your minds get the meds now, and if your thinking of being pro please for your and your families sake resign now! This is crazy, the judge the sham trial, wtf:
Judge rejects Jason Van Dyke's bid for a new trial and sets sentencing date
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-laquan-mcdonald-jason-van-dyke-court-20181215-story.html
Excerpt:
Two uniformed, armed members of the sheriff's emergency response team — brought in to supplement security for high-risk or high-profile defendants — stood watch near Van Dyke.
So they needed these swat style sheriffs for what? They are making this copper our brother worse than El-Chapo the police hating democratic led apparatus is way out of hand, look at Paris God bless those people they are doing the right thing tired of the elected doing so much crime and perpetuation of violence!
May God bless Jason and his family, to the moronic coppers that say "that could never be me," as you get the cool tattoos your insane!
Why would Ram promise to fund the pensions with weed and gambling, but want to crack open the Constitution to meddle with them?
Introducing the Barack Hussein Obama Presidential Library (not a library), Recording Studio, Benefits and Entitlement Office, (now also a small public, not presidential, library), Social Justice Restoritive Center, Slavery Reporations Office, Medical and Recreational Marijuana Dispensary and Casino.
I worked with some of the casinos years ago when Chicago was first talking about a licence.
Sever points were brought up.
1. Chicago ain't ready for reform. The state must oversee the casino, just like all the others. Security has be done in house and they can hire CPD officers part time
.
2. The casino MUST be in a central location where conventioneers can stop by and play. The money they bring in is icing on the cake.
3. Any airport gaming must be done on a small scale, no casino at the airport, just slots.
4. The casino would not cost the taxpayers a dime. For a contract most gaming corporations would front the money. No need to steal TIF money from the schools.
I would add that video machines in the ward would also bring in a boatload of cash. In little Morton Grove, the tax revenue if about $5,000 a month, just to the village!
And of course, the money from gaming of any kind should go to shore up the pension plans, not replace the money the city contributes.
Listen closely people!!!!!
The casino is a pipe dream PERIOD!!!!!!!
This is rham’s final Fuk U to city workers. The casino is the bait to change the pension obligations PERIOD!!!!!
They will NEVER break ground, ever! Don’t be a lame sucker and fall for this text book distraction!!!!!!!!!!!
If they can make one little change to the pension contract you guys are fucked!!
Rham will be laughing from his million dollar retirement home.
Richard Daley fukd is for 20 years and got away clean. Every alderscum should along with him should be held accountable!!!!!
Ram,what lies are you gonna tell us— as to what the tax money is going to?? Can it be the homeless problem you and the democrats keep ignoring? or narcan for the hypes? Please dump all the money into something stupid
Everything will depend on who is the next Mayor of Chicago. If one of the insiders is elected, then it is business as usual.
This has happened before, more then once; thugs follow a winner at the casinos to his/her home and rob them when they get out of their car, usually in the middle of the night. Put a casino in a crap area and the thugs won't wait until the victim's home, they will curb their car a block away. There is no way I would go to a casino in any of the many crap areas of Chicago.
Isn’t there some shitty Off-Track Betting establishment already down by the port? The poor folks down there must have too much money - lottery tickets and OTB aren’t enough. We’ve already hit Peak Casino. You can go west, northwest, or east to visit one of about 4 or 5 casinos. The magic is gone. You know where you could make some money? Control some of the political graft going on in this shithole.
Why would people go to a crappy Chicago casino in the middle of the ghetto when they could drive 6 minutes farther and go to a crappy Indiana casino in the middle of the ghetto and smoke legally while gambling?
Like every other area around casino's, from Monte Carlo to Las Vegas, the area around is filled with people and businesses trying to relieve the players of their winnings.
At least that part of the infrastructure is in place....
The biggest bet will be if you can get to your car without getting rolled. OTOH, this could be a boon for the Fake Uber industry.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You people miss the point. The casinos attract the criminal element. Go see the clientele at the Horseshoe at all hours. Do you want the drug dealers. hoes and gangbangers downtown or at McCormick place all day and night? Smarten up.
12/14/2018 06:57:00 AM
Where have you been? They're already downtown in droves.
Either he's a bigger idiot than I thought or its just a plan to enrich himself and friends.
From a shuttered steel mill to a shuttered casino. Dumb idea rahm. Just keep quiet and move on. You’ve caused enough carnage iin this great city. Lord knows you can keep quiet (McDonald video release).
Oh yeah, make sure the red line has a stop underneath the casino too rahm. That way it will be failsafe.
Like I just said, move on dumb ass, you’ve done enough damage here.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There are 10 casinos licensed by the state containing around 10,000 slot machines total, these slot machines account for roughly 80% of the casino's revenue with table games bringing in the remaining 20% .As of November 2018 there are 30,735 VGT (slot machines) located outside of casinos in the state (taverns, restaurants and alike) this was the equivalent of opening 30 new casinos in the state. Casino revenue has been dropping ever since the state allowed slot machines off site. Notice how no other community is asking for a casino license anymore? No financial backers due to declining revenue but Chicago politicians are willing to bet your pension on what they see as a sure bet.
Information source http://www.igb.illinois.gov/
12/14/2018 09:01:00 AM
If only Rivers had a poker room.
OT-Toni Preckwinkle promises to replace Eddie Johnson. Her advance team headed by Tina Anderson is prepared to assume power until the Police Board can conduct a nationwide search for a progressive reformer willing to advance the Foxx,Anderson,Preckwinkle Agenda.
Bring on the tribunals said...
Off topic SCC...ALERT ALERT ALERT.
Let me tell u a tale. Spread the word.
So the Johnson twins, 1 under federal investigaion and the other soon to be, arranged last year to hold THIS years CPD xmas party jointly( 011+ 007 ) at the same terrible location downtown. Fast forward to 2018 and neither commander is running these shitholes, yet since the deposit was made both districts are stuck. So us blue shirts are pressured to by a $65 ticket ( or work a late car). Then it turns out 1 of the Districts didn't pay the venue on time so for first 2 hours its a CASH BAR ONLY.
9$ BEERS 12$ WELL- DRINKS.
Hilarious right?
So to top it off we were given placards to place in our vehicles for "COURTESY" parking only to find out some meter maid is hammering people with tickets left and right.
Merry fucking Christmas.
Now go get us some blue cards.
So work a late car and save the 65bucks. Cant put everyone on a late car.
Build a casino / casinos next to the Obama Library. Perfect location!!!!
1) Soldiers Field should have had a dome. Think SuperBowl and Rock Concerts
2) Casino at Navy Pier
3) Open Miegs Field
4) A Tram or Mono Rail from Navy Pier thru Museum Campus to McCormick Pl.
The boaters could dock at the Pier and gamble, conventioneers could travel from McCormick Pl. to the Pier, they could bring their families and kids could take in the museums.
But not in this Leper Colony they call Chicago. We got bike lanes and the bean. ♠️
Why is anyone even listening to this Jackass anyway?
Talk of Southeast site just a ruse....so when it lands at McCormick everyone is satisfied its much close to downtown.
Build the biggest casino in the nation in Garfield Park (011).
People will come.
However, they may not leave.
He was a beast of a man
his shit was hard as rocks
this boy was Deadfish Rahm
Bad idea at the 11th hour Tiny Man.
Anonymous 63rd & Kedzie said...
The two failing Casino Boats in Gary were just sold again. The rumor is that the new company wants to sell the two Casinos to a Chicago group and move them into Illinois. The Gary Boats have been complete failure. No one in their right mind wanted to travel to Gary with gambling money in their pocket.
12/14/2018 07:27:00 AM
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Ridiculous rumor. Take it from someone who knows.
The war on police continues
https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/new-jersey-bans-police-from-possessing-duty-weapons-while-off-duty-HIerRHQqnUyAM4_V350zFQ/
All the while most recent bashing the COLA and how it’s not fair to give retirees “raises”, Rahm has failed to mention why.
Trumponomics has kept inflation at near zero. Shitfaced liar Rahm seems to think Cost of Living is low,and stagnant. He bragged to have saved millions by eliminating healthcare for retirees and won’t mention policies, doctor, pharm and testing costs have risen.
Even thinks the gasoline retirees need to drive to a doctor is cheap enough to tax the shit out of it.
Besides all that, RottenRahm is pushing through his legacy showpiece with the fast tracking of the very expensive scam artist Elon MuskRat tunnel. Billions at stake, if Rahm owns any Boring stock, expect him to sell it off and avoid the value plummet after the first chunk of bedrock stalls the project. Destined to be another taxpayer nightmare as far as fantasy infrastructure goes.
Apparently they’re half way through the environmental study, so Rahm is ready to ink that deal before he leaves in May 2019.
So they needed these swat style sheriffs for what?
12/14/2018 01:58:00 PM
Maybe because of threats against him.
He wants it to fail because he isn’t through “sticking it in our ear”
The Parking Meter Deal, The Skyway Deal, Soldier Field Renovation, Northern Island Renovation, Flower Pots, and Gardens Placed in The Middle of Heavy Traffic Streets, The Upcoming Obama "Library", Bicycle Lane, "Only" Streets. Why would anyone "dare" question the success of a "Casino"?
I guess the promotional lists didn't come out today
I heard there s casino land available in Chernobyl... or did DV buy that up too? For 68 mil?
RAHM and Pritker are the debauchery leeches on our society.
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...
Comiskey Park in a bad neighborhood? I walk there from Beatrice's.
Yeah, but we are armed.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You people miss the point. The casinos attract the criminal element. Go see the clientele at the Horseshoe at all hours. Do you want the drug dealers. hoes and gangbangers downtown or at McCormick place all day and night? Smarten up.
12/14/2018 06:57:00 AM
Sounds like the Chicago city council.
Anonymous Bring on the tribunals said...
Off topic SCC...ALERT ALERT ALERT.
Let me tell u a tale. Spread the word.
So the Johnson twins, 1 under federal investigaion and the other soon to be, arranged last year to hold THIS years CPD xmas party jointly( 011+ 007 ) at the same terrible location downtown. Fast forward to 2018 and neither commander is running these shitholes, yet since the deposit was made both districts are stuck. So us blue shirts are pressured to by a $65 ticket ( or work a late car). Then it turns out 1 of the Districts didn't pay the venue on time so for first 2 hours its a CASH BAR ONLY.
9$ BEERS 12$ WELL- DRINKS.
Hilarious right?
So to top it off we were given placards to place in our vehicles for "COURTESY" parking only to find out some meter maid is hammering people with tickets left and right.
Merry fucking Christmas.
Now go get us some blue cards.
12/14/2018 08:45:00 AM
Man the fuck up and work the late car.
The New Jersey legislators must be clueless. Why else would you disarm the police. Maybe maaaaaaaybe if they had the highest conviction rate on the country with 98% time served disarming police would have some sliiiight logic. The criminals would fear the judges! I have seen smarter crack addicts.
Anonymous Enen said...
Why would people go to a crappy Chicago casino in the middle of the ghetto when they could drive 6 minutes farther and go to a crappy Indiana casino in the middle of the ghetto and smoke legally while gambling?
12/14/2018 02:50:00 PM
True. Smoking counts. Many of the people addicted to cigarettes are also addicted to gambling.
Anonymous said...
Exactly!! All valid points, also why attempt to build a casino so close to 2 Indiana casinos? Who is going to want to travel to the east side to gamble? There is a reason the Rivers is the most profitable casino in Illinois, 1. Easy access off 294, 2. Right next to shopping, sports venue and dining. Its not located in a crime ridden neighborhood..............Plus we all know anytime they try to generate any new kind of revenue stream, the money never goes to what it was created for.
12/14/2018 01:40:00 AM
Not true. Rivers is successful because of it's address. People who live nearby have money.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You people miss the point. The casinos attract the criminal element. Go see the clientele at the Horseshoe at all hours. Do you want the drug dealers. hoes and gangbangers downtown or at McCormick place all day and night? Smarten up.
12/14/2018 06:57:00 AM
Not true. Check crime stats. Very low crime rate at casinos.
Anonymous said...
Casino gambling has been legal in Illinois for 30 years, the owners of the existing ones don’t want one downtown, who are they and why do they wield such power.
12/14/2018 06:49:00 AM
No world class city has a casino downtown because they are low class and tacky.
Anonymous said...
Former FBI mob investigator Wm. Roemers book about Accardo contains a letter written by Wm. Jahoda, reformed outfit gambling honcho to the Chicago crime commission about how bad an idea putting a casino in Chicago is. Among the many reasons he states is "converging from six continents will be every pimp, burglar, grifter, car thief, booster, arsonist, counterfeiter, whore, dope dealer, con man, hi-jacker, extortionist, and worse making an equally perverse pilgrimage toward those same beguiling neon beacons." He forgot demorat politicians.
12/14/2018 07:24:00 AM
Maybe. But the money is made from F/2's in their 50's and 60's who are addicted to slot machines.
Anonymous said...
Former FBI mob investigator Wm. Roemers book about Accardo contains a letter written by Wm. Jahoda, reformed outfit gambling honcho to the Chicago crime commission about how bad an idea putting a casino in Chicago is. Among the many reasons he states is "converging from six continents will be every pimp, burglar, grifter, car thief, booster, arsonist, counterfeiter, whore, dope dealer, con man, hi-jacker, extortionist, and worse making an equally perverse pilgrimage toward those same beguiling neon beacons." He forgot demorat politicians.
12/14/2018 07:24:00 AM
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And they'd all be on the Red Line from the Daley Center....
Anyone with any sense of self preservation isn't gonna drive to the southeast side of Chicago to gamble...
Rahm=disaster. He cant leave fast enough
Hmmmm...
Maybe somebody in Rahm al-Ghoul's inner circle
got caught with their pants down in regard to
that eternally toxic parcel that was formerly
home to the U.S. Steel South Works?
Didn't some high-assed-flyin' Yer-Peein'
"construction consortium" not too long
ago say "Fukdat!" and walk away when
the city tried to bojank them into doing
the clean-up of 120 years of ghastly chemicals
from steel manufacturing having percolated
through the soil down through the water table?
The usual coterie of City Hall/Rahm & Co./
Chicago corporate grifters and lick-hitters
looking to get their dicks very wet off the
tax payers backs?
"We're gonna build 50K homes and put all
that property back on the tax rolls!"
Heh... You M/Fers are going to end up with
an environmental/civil lawsuit shit-show that'll make
the Love Canal Disaster seem as innocuous as schoolboys
chasing each other on the playlot with dog shit on an stick...
>WHAP!<
"UHH-WAAAHHH!
IT STINKS!"
(See Rahm desperately trying to get in
the wind before all that happens.)
Rahm is trying to save them/save their money
by proposing a 20 year-too-late casino be
built out there?
>Snicker<
Let that land lay fallow like a m/fer so that we,
the peed-on peons can be amused when these dirty
cock-suckers start turning up in executive sedans
parked in forest preserves - sucking on copper
jacketed lead breath mints.
Whether by their own hand or the hands of their
confreres trying to weed out the week links
likely to want to parlay with the Federales
to insure themselves a good seat on that there
"Bluebird" with the security grates on the windows.
"GAAAHH! That's why we HATE you Cops!
You guys are too... Well... Just TOO!"
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
6"2-am, hate to tell U, but Indiana is not the savings it used to be. I honestly shop in will or dupage county for smokes, gas and groceries.
Congrats to Costello, Easterday and Magno - all will be FANTASTIC lieutenants!
You people miss the point. The casinos attract the criminal element. Go see the clientele at the Horseshoe at all hours. Do you want the drug dealers. hoes and gangbangers downtown or at McCormick place all day and night? Smarten up.
12/14/2018 06:57:00 AM
Who cares! As long as they pay into the damn pension! The thugs are all over downtown anyway. Chicago is gone!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What about the Michael Reese property?
12/14/2018 07:37:00 AM
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Instead of buying that shithole for the $80m they paid, they should have burned that money, at least you'd get heat from it. Another Richie Daley "pie in da sky" fiasco.
It's easier to move the cheese to the rats than move all the rats to the cheese. A big slice of the cheese will find it's way to the rats that stay downtown- city council, mayor. A few crumbs might find there way to the pension to provide cover for those that take there share in big fat juicy slices. It's Chicago and nothing is honest in Chicago, Nothing!
Build the biggest casino in the nation in Garfield Park (011).
People will come.
However, they may not leave.
Well they definitely won’t leave with their wallets or their cars.
Who in Gods green earth even goes to Casinos anymore????
You walk in, and you loses your money. That's it.
Maybe you get some bullshit points. Maybe you get to eat some "Hospital and Correctional Grade" food at the Buffet. Golly gee!
Nothing but unwashed assholes, bustouts and trailer park freaks at the one in DesPlaines. Talk to Billy Kushner one day, he'll tell you what kind of fuckery and foolery goes on in there.
Then you have slots in every tavern, 7-11 and nail joint going up to the Wisconsin border.
You had 4 race tracks and now you have one. Full of crickets.
The Powerball and Mega and about 75 different scratch off games.
And I have no use for any one of them.
Casino's do attract the undesirables amongst us. That explains why RAHM and Prickster wants one so bad!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes, Chicago is late to the casino party. If it was going to be built, it should have been built ten years ago, but I am sure shortshanks was not going to get a big enough cut from it, otherwise he would have rammed it through the legislature. And, if they do build it, who is going to go to the southeast side of the side. The only thing that will happen is that the casino will dry up the SSI and welfare checks of the local neighbors.
12/14/2018 03:08:00 AM
Or were the Indiana casinos greasing the fifth floor to protect their gambling interests from heading to Chicago.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
6"2-am, hate to tell U, but Indiana is not the savings it used to be. I honestly shop in will or dupage county for smokes, gas and groceries.
12/15/2018 01:49:00 AM
That will change with the new gas tax
If you build it they will come...
Wherever it is.
The Sox do not have a tourist attraction and have had worse management than the CPD.
I disagree, the Sox have great management, they finagled the deal where their rent is based on attendance, they keep all the concessions and parking and advertising revenue generated in the park. All this to counter their bullshit threat to leave Chicago and move to St. Petersburg Florida. Ever drive by the park where the Rays now play. Ever figure out how much people on fixed incomes can pay to go see a ball game. Geniuses are what's made the Illinois Sports Authority a laughing stock.
12/15/2018 09:25:00 AM
You have no use for them cause your a cheapfuck.
The White Sox have cunning management. Jim Thompon is a disingenuous asshole for assisting in the scheme against the taxpayers of Illinois.
The south side of Chicago is a gambling desert tho /sarc
considering the $ involved city hall connected types have sugar plums dancing in their heads at the thought, its all part of Rahms exit strategy just as legalizing dope and saying what a good idea it would be to change the state constitution so the can lower pension benefits (because they never funded the pension properly) so when the city ends up in bankruptcy he can just say "if they would have done as I suggested this wouldn't have happened" But oh wait didn't Rahm solve the pension problem getting the state to delay actually funding them? in fact did he not release a letter from the mayors office telling everyone the problem was solved back in July of 2017 ?
People go to shit hole Hammond they will go down to SouthEast side. I personally do not want a bunch of casino rats near where I live.
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