Teachers Want What?
- The Chicago Teachers’ Union recently released a draft contract chock-full of demands: smaller class sizes, salary increases, and more affordable benefits. But one “ask” that’s missing is for a right that educators in every other large urban school district in America enjoy — the right to live outside the city.
Why has CPS held on to its residency requirement since 1996? There’s the belief that teachers who live in Chicago will have more stake in their schools and communities, be more involved in school activities and be less likely to miss work or show up late. CPS also claims that schools benefit financially because educators spend their money in the city — money that eventually trickles down to schools.
Other cities, including Philadelphia and Milwaukee, had residency policies for decades but have rescinded them. Now, CPS is the only one of the 50 largest districts in our nation that requires residency for its educators. However, there’s a list of unfair exceptions.
And amazingly, the Slum Times is supporting their efforts. You think they'd support an effort to ship cops out of the city based solely on their coverage and Mope-rah's screeds.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Not all. But a LOT of these teachers and ALL of the administrators in CPS makes me sick.
How many contracts do teachers get?
Seems like they are always negotiating a contract.
I hope they can leave this God forsaken place! Who really wants to live here anymore!
Salary increases and more affordable benefits ? Once again jumping on taxpayers backs. But I guess with the exemplary job they are doing.....oh nevermind. No one cares that they turn out poorly educated students.
Depending upon what you teach, you can live outside of the city.
Residency is meaningless to teachers. My wife teaches grade school on the northwest side. There’s another teacher on her floor that’s married to a fireman. The other 5 teachers on her floor have exemptions to live in the suburbs. So what’s the point in fighting against something that doesn’t matter.
CPS still has the darn Residency Waiver program if you do a web search. It is 'only' a 3 year waiver though.
The Slum Times needs to be bitch slapped because
they don't make their employees live in the Shitty.
The teachers deserve a can of chock-full-o-nuts coffee
and priority mail envelopes to send their dirty oil filters
to the Board of Education.
This isn't going to be a popular comment...but here I go.
I am tired of the CPS getting exemptions at all on residency if they are not extended to the rest of the City Employees.
Too many damn vehicles in Public School Employee Only Parking Lots without City Stickers, but if you go into a Police or Fire or other City Department Parking Lot, the only vehicles without a City Sticker on them are rental cars.
I have to register my license plate # and the serial # of the City Sticker every year with Finance.
Screw CTU.
-Money that eventually trickles down to schools…But I thought Democrats did not believe in trickle down economics.
Nonsense.
Always nonsense from CTU.
Total voucher system.
Set amounts per grade/age groupings.
Want to send you lovely to a more costly school?
Pony up the difference.
No exceptions.
None.
Dole recipients, cut back on the booze, the dope, the expensive junk shit you feed your spawn.
Indictrination of nonsense begins in pre school, and continues, unabated, thru fucking college.
The uniparty, led by democrats all, fucked up bigly for decades.
And continue to fuck up dai!y.
A nation of fuck ups sucks.
A city and county and state of dedicated fuck ups sucks bigly.
Time to cut the cord.
NO!!!!!!!!!!
If we have to live in this shithole of a city, then they should suffer like we do!
Otherwise, go get another teaching job!
Teachers are NOT that important!
Ha!
How about that kooky punk from Bridgeport running for mayor who wants 40% of coppers to live in the fucking district they work in?
I’m glad my kids have broken the cycle are doing things other then being the fuckin police.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How many contracts do teachers get?
Seems like they are always negotiating a contract.
1/27/2019 12:07:00 AM
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That’s because they can go on strike...
I'm tired of hearing their whining.
When is the FOP going to arbitration? It has been over a year and a half without a contract.
The logic cracks me up about not being late to work. I could live in Beverly and work in Edgewater all within city and that's far. Or live in Oak Lawn and teach in Beverly and that's close. Makes no sense. I buy groceries and gas in Oak Lawn now.
I used to have great respect for teachers. That was until most schools became indoctrination centers for the leftist propaganda that the majority of today’s socialist tinged teachers spew. They are just another union city worker we can’t afford.
I seem to remember the Chicago Teachers Union providing a "tool kit" re-educating children on the Laquan McDonald incident. Remember this was funded by C.T.U. by a professional development facilitator for the Chicago teacher's union Quest Center entitled "Teaching About Laquan McDonald". High School graduates cannot read at a 6th grade level but their minds are filled with hate and rage preparing them as human tools to be used in uprisings. Time for vouchers.
Teachers demand to work 12 months each and every calendar year. Teachers demand their union dues be spent on them and not sent in bulk to politicians in a soft money laundering scheme.
And how much do teachers contribute into their pensions compared to policemen and firemen? Yeah that's right so STFU teachers union! If not pay up into that teachers pension like everyone else. And it's a part time job basically!
Never had a positive experience with an CPS employee in 35 years. All left wing assholes. White, Black, and Hispanic ! CPS has 125 K a year administrators ten all the fortune 500 companies. Most are grads from that Ivy league college, Chicago State.
Me... Me... Me...
Want... Want... Want...
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Democrats do not believe in borders. Why should teachers acknowledge borders? Teachers unions are generous in campaign contributions to like minded progressive democrats only. So many democrats don't like those immoral borders. Besides without google maps many teachers and students would geographically challenged.
Anonymous said...
How many contracts do teachers get?
Seems like they are always negotiating a contract.
1/27/2019 12:07:00 AM
They are a real union that gets a contract and does not wait years until an arbitrator decided what little we get.
how about they pay into there fken pensions
Is there a $metoo!! for students(victims) of the cps? I served a nine year sentence there in the 80's and am still scarred
Why do teachers think they deserve the right to work in the city, but the public safety personnel cannot, like police and fire? Typically a teacher does not have their life in danger daily like police and fire do in this shit ass city, however I would not mind living in the boys town area of Lakeview.
Okay, so they're NOT asking to live outside the city? Maybe I'm tired, but I read this twice and don't get it. People are upset because they don't care about living outside the city? Read the article, boy, there are a lot, lot, lot of exemptions.
At least their union has the balls to address residency unlike Graham Crackers and the FOP. It's beyond time to do something about the out-dated residency rule here in Chicago for the Police (and all city workers). Every big city across America has done away with the out dated residency rule. And I'm also tired of hearing from selfish cops who are worried about their own property values. News flash; there will not be a mass Exodus! But we should all have a right to live where we want (including outside of Chicago) as long as we show up to work on time. Residency NEEDS to be rescinded, Chicago is becoming unlivable.
A lot of you have no concept of what being in a UNION is.
YOU cry online everytime somebody else negotiate with the city.
It could be the teachers firemen hell even janitors.
The city is always the BADGUY!
once you figure that out life will seem much simpler.
A merit is no longer a police officer they work for the mayor against you.
They also suck your pension up with gold braid provision.
Elections are rolling around at the FOP hall.
Its gonna be a DOOZEY
If you didnt like BURKE being endorsed
Wearing cameras
VAN DYKE sandbag
Pension not funded
manpower cuts
go to meetings and NO you cant run for election because the power at the hall have a minimum amount of meeting you must attend to run.
If we have to live in this shithole of a city, then they should surf like we do!
The Chicago teachers have more spoiled brats in their entourage than their classrooms.
They use their ability to strike to hold the city, mayor etc hostage for their often unrealistic demands. They are top heavy with non-teaching staff in their union. The student population has diminished but yet spending and budget has increased drastically.
While obviously there are many dedicated teachers within the system, those witnessed under the tutelage of that spoiled Karen Lewis should stfu and worry about, you know... "Daaaa CHILDREN!
They vote as a block. They have shoved Toni down our throats and have their union respond to what they want. That's why Madigan and old school pols are afraid of them.
Which is why they get the residency exemptions and only pay a fraction of what we have to contribute to our pensions.
They are Special.They and their union are a big reason we have sunk to this level of weaseled politicians representing a community of entitlement.
Live and learn public servants!
How about they pay more towards their pensions. No accountability for anything. They turn out such a fine product, highly educated students. Not.
The city doesn't like us.... they keep us for the taxes... thats all its about and ever will.
Ooh!-Ooh!-Ooh! Me too! I want to live outside the city!
There are a lot of teachers that live outside the city and they even tell people where they live. My guess is that they can’t find enough teachers so they really don’t care what they do. That being said most teachers in my neighborhood also smoke weed. Only the police need to follow the rules.
Not all teachers live in the city. There are some that apply for a waiver for a short time, but never reapply and remain unchecked. Then you have certain areas of education that CPS allows them to live outside, but are supposed to eventually move to the city. CTU doesn’t care, as long as they are paying dues. The hardcore rule seems to only really apply to members of CPD. Every other employee finds loopholes.
Many if not most live outside the city.
They don’t pay squat into their pension fund. And don’t give me that the pay sucks
It’s basically a part time job. 9 months of work with the whole summer off, with all those holidays and special in service days too.
Take the guns out of the hands of SRO and give them to all the teachers, that'll show them...
Smaller class sizes? Not while the state continues to harbor illegals. They’ll keep coming here and your classes will continue to grow.
Anonymous said...
NO!!!!!!!!!!
If we have to live in this shithole of a city, then they should suffer like we do!
Otherwise, go get another teaching job!
Teachers are NOT that important!
1/27/2019 04:19:00 AM
They can’t get other jobs teaching. Most (not all) CPS teachers did apply to other school districts and couldn’t make the cut, so they go with CPS, in hopes of eventually catching on someplace else. Although that rarely happens, CPS teachers usually don’t get hired in the suburbs.
See what happens when your allowed to strike?...The teachers get the ears of the powers that be and they settle sooner than later.....With the CPD, they just let us go on and on with nothing happening. Give us back the ability to strike. You better believe we'd get their attention pretty Fuckin quick.......
LA is testing this also
NO!!!!!!!!!!
If we have to live in this shithole of a city, then they should suffer like we do!
Otherwise, go get another teaching job!
Teachers are NOT that important!
1/27/2019 04:19:00 AM
if teachers arent important how about you stay home with your kids and teach them instead. I dont get all the hate on this blog for teachers. its dumb. Dont get mad at them because their union have more balls than ours. if the fop advocated for no city residancey there would be a damn party on this blog but since its the"liberal" teachers its a big problem smh. grow up
Bunch of crybabies, how about pay your fair share into the pension like everyone else. What a joke cps teachers have become. If you have the means, I hope you can send your children to private schools where they aren’t anti police and preach about police brutality for a week.
the residency requirement for teachers is not enforced. I know several that live outside the city and the CPS does nothing.
I call BS. Teachers have had a waiver to residency for forever. Most teachers use the waiver and then renew it every 3 years. Again - FAKE NEWS.
The only teachers still living in the city are the ones married to coppers and firemen.
Maybe they can start enforcing the residency rule which has been in place for decades but only selectively enforced. More than 1/3 but less than 1/2 are using address locations other than where the reside. Fire them all and save on the pension pay out. Charter schools did not work to break the union but maybe enforcing the age old rule could help.
There are multiple exemptions to the residency requirement. It’s really a non-issue for CTU.
What say you Kevin Graham? Oh that’s right, never mind.
Lift the residency restriction across the city. We are the last city in the country to still have this bullshit law that forbids people from living where they choose to live and raise a family. WTF.
Amazingly, LA teachers just got a raise. Watch Denver and Oakland.
Demon-rats!
My (late) sister was a teacher in grade school. 60% of her time was spent on discipline! She was kicked, had her hair pulled and was called a "bitch" by first graders!
Pass them to the next grade and dumb them down more, and look at the society we have. The get to colleges and the college for two years has to, again, teach them.
I only went to high school, but the nuns taught us well. You learned! Now, it's all different. It's about feelings, re-engineering and re-thinking. Revised history.
Too: who is bad? Who is good? Get 'em early.
Good luck, seriously. Police/law have been demonized by the last president and his DOJ. Another beer conference? Not!
They all know how to go on marches, but can't read!
NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.
Anonymous said...
"...The uniparty, led by democrats all, fucked up bigly for decades.
And continue to fuck up dai!y.
A nation of fuck ups sucks.
A city and county and state of dedicated fuck ups sucks bigly.
Time to cut the cord."
1/27/2019 01:40:00 AM
The "new equality" according to the twisted, white-guilt liberal
progressive democrat nanny-statist collectivists...
"Parity"/"Equality" is the goal.
The goal is achieved by busting EVERYBODY that isn't "them"
down to a "common denominator."
Why do you think public education has been turned into
K-12 indoctrination centers where they fill young skulls
so full of feel-good mush?
Ask any high school senior if they've received a robust
block of instruction in Civics/Governance...
"Huh? Whohadsaidsump'n?"
It's ALL by design.
And to borrow a word, it's playing out bigly in America's
democrat-controlled large urban centers.
So now we're nearing a 3rd generation (from our count -
YMMV...) of squishy nitwits who simply cannot think
for themselves but we're all being told that they're
so smart and they're our nation's future.
And the absolutely most maddening thing?
Progressive Collectivist ideology is just a genteel
descriptor for Marxism/Communism... The same ideology
that snuffed out untold hundreds of millions of lives
way out there on foreign shores.
It has been, is and will continue to be a monumental
fail that is designed to burn public treasury, bring
about ruin and cost lives.
...But these lunatic m/fers INSIST that it can work
in America because America is "free" and "has so much."
We're quite sure that pile of human skulls at the
Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum in Cambodia, if they could
talk, would have quite the story to tell about the
collectivist wet dream/nightmare for everybody else
that progressivism and others such really are.
Heh... The collectivists have racked up quite the
toll in the 20th Century.
No?
Now ponder all the deeply ugly shit that
has been/is being slid in place...
And it centers on the gradual peeling away of self
determination and the imposition of the government
as the all-knowing and benevolent father who dispenses
prizes, goodies and free-shit that really ain't free.
Heh...
The CTU says "rich people" are going to give them what
they want in this upcoming contract.
These m/fers and others like them are so damned cocksure
that they're going to run the table on the rest of every-
body else that they don't even bother with even feigning
to mask their true intentions anymore.
Just like their ACLU and politically/culturally weaponized
perpetual grievance industrial complex confréres.
There HAS to be a way to fight back and put a powerful bad
hurt on these corrosive, nation-hating, treasonous creatures
and finally lay them out for who and what they are and what
they're trying to do.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Fuck the Progressive Liberal Corruptacrats . Pay the snowflake brain dead on results not excuses
419am is correct. Teachers are not important anymore. The new progressive program teaches them how to complain and not to do.
Teacher bashing is just as bad as police officer bashing. Kind of hypocritical to judge all teachers based on the actions of the CTU. (Are you not all sick of this very thing happening to you?) There are many CPS teacher’s married to CPD officers. The hatred I’m reading here is pretty sad and somewhat disgusting.
Don’t teachers only pay 2% into there pension and wonder why the pension is underfunded.
Now is the time for everyone to fight against residency. High crime rates, high taxes, your rights being restricted by emotional snowflake politicians. This entire state stinks and Cook County/ Chicago is the armpit of it all. Other places large and small have ended residency requirements.
Their union leaders are flame throwers and not afraid to strike. The threat of strike has all these people “ dancing” to their demands. Our union is seen as weak. We can’t strike and except the crumbs they give us...we have to negotiate under these terms.
If all city workers including police and fire were allowed to live outside Chicago this town would become a ghost town. The city would never give up those tax dollars.
If Chicago teachers were employed by a private company every single one of them would have been fired for failure to produce a productive student. And remember folks/peoples, they are the ones that shout at us constantly that those wild yutes are just misunderstood, misguided children of the streets.
If any union should be busted it’s theirs.
Scum Times is owned by the SEIU
My college girlfriend has worked for CPS for 25 years. She’s had a waiver to live in Batavia the entire time.
The principal at my son's school lives in Orland Park. The assistant Principal lives West Chicago. Is residency in name only.
Question for all the mayoral candidates. While all of you are selling transparency WILL you release the emails that have been legally foia'd regarding the Lt.'s test scandal or will you allow Inspector Ferguson to keep it a deep dark secret?
"No one cares that they turn out poorly educated students"
sez 1/27/2019 12:39:00 AM
Time to get out your copy of the "Bell Curve".
Nature or Nurture?
There is only so much that a rock can absorb.
EVERY city employee should have to live in the city. Residency should have been fought over 30 yrs ago. Those living on the northwest sides and far southwest side have a lot to lose. The democrat sociolists have destroyed Chicago. Greedy Burke and Madigan have destroyed Chicago and Illinois with their law firms that fight property tax increases. They should be in prison eating baloney or getting baloney up their ass for their theft!!
If the residency was lifted for us then we could get good intelligent police officers of every race into the academy and then on the street. We all know friends or have family that would be great officers but they don’t want to live in the city and more importantly they don’t want to gamble on their future in cps. Seriously a huge amount still graduate high school that read at first grade levels. There is zero chance of failing any grade threw high schools. The teachers came up with the idea
Just a friendly reminder that Starbucks is offering their stores as warming shelters and no questions asked.
hey I live in far southwest suburb and I have two CPD teachers living on my block. one white, one black and they make no bones about living outside of the city. I am retired
I know some teachers, some CPS, and I have a great deal of respect for them. The CTU on the other hand? They’re a disgusting extremist left activist union. I know plenty of the teachers who don’t even like the CTU. When the CTU took union money and gave it to black lives matter to help out the cause a few years back? I knew lots of teachers who were furious with that stunt, as lots of teachers are married to, sons/daughters of, sibilings to, Chicago police officers. CTU always forgets that little detail. Anyways, I digress. I hope they get their residency requirement rescinded. Looks good for us then when we eventually try it and other city employees aren’t made to live in the city. Unintended consequence, hopefully all the looney activist teachers that are out there get up and leave the city.
Demand more and do less... the liberal democratic way. So I have to pay even MORE on taxes so you can have a police hating public speaker at my kid’s school! Or pay for these social justice warrior idiots to teach hate and other nonsense. Has anyone been to NorthPrep Highscool on the north side of Chicago? They have turned the boys bathroom into a GENDER-NEUTRAL bathroom! Yup, this is where our tax paying money is going. Better to accommodate the 1 in 1000th kid questioning his/her/elf on the shelf identity then provide a good education. I am not against kids who have trouble self identifying, just think it should be handled on a more individual level instead of forcing everyone to conform to one outlier.
Why doesnt the fop ask mccompstat if he will eliminate residency for cops afterall his prior agencies didn't have residency.Seems like he would be the only one to consider it.
And if their Demands are not met, they will Strike.
It’s all for the Kids...right?
What’s our mystery FOP contract negotiation calling for;
More assignments
Fewer hires
More discipline
Less time off
More pension contributions
Less benefits
More apologies
Less community respect
We are a 24/7/365 operation
CPS is a seasonal part time daycare
We are primarily taxpayer funded, subject to budget cuts and hiring lapse
CPS is homeowner, fed and state gubmint supported, always short on funds due to overspending and absolutely no accountability
Our only commonality is we’re both mismanaged by incompetent, corrupt and biased leadership.
As for SlumTimes, they’re SEIU co-owned.
They will always be on the side of CPS, JB, Prickwrinkle and the Democrat that fits the National movement of the moment.
Thats funny I live in the city and I dont buy a dam thing in the city. Nothing.
Not bad for teachers who have sex with their students
Why hasn't a lawsuit been filed on behalf of all the other employees? Don't forget they only pay 2% into their pension and we pick up the balance as city residences.
many cps honor roll students take remedial classes in college
some end up in prison , shot by other cps students
Worst school system in the United States, worst graduation percentage of the top ten populated cities in the United States, black lives matter supporters, fuck them, let them strike.
I so know this won't be recieved well but facts are facts. Teachers spend a whole lot more time with the idiots then the police do. They can not tell the parents that they are idiots, they can not put their hands on a 10 or 18 yo punk that needs a slap. They, as well as the police, have idiots running the show. Is there one copper that has spent 40 hours a week stuck in a small room with way too many idiots that have been told since birth that they have rights & entitlements?
It was Daley who started the BS with the contracts. Promised something he failed to deliver.
I am aware of coppers who have bought dinner, diapers (for both babies and teenagers), electric, gas, shoes, coats, groceries, prom dresses, ect. I am aware of teachers who have done the same. I was once asked by a friend who is a teacher, to donate a few bucks to her school coat fund rather than Christmas or birhtday presents for her kids.
There was a time when we could say that teachers had a comfy little job, that day is long gone. Not only are they asked to parent, they are now being asked to police. Isn't there a debate going on regarding whether or not teachers should be armed?
I am sick of all the bad press the police get. There is nothing a copper does that is right in this twisted ass world. Read this blog and you can see that we fail in standing together any any one subject. I know that fat Karen & others dissed the police. Can we be better?
Can we start a revolution? If the police & teachers could step back from each others they might realize that we are fighting the same battle, politics.
If you a reading this and are the police and don't agree then take your kids out of school while saying thanks for the teachers who taught you how to read. If your a teacher reading this and don't agree then don't call the police when ole boy comes through the doors with a gun. If you don't call we won't come on too strong but we will be happy to drop paper when the dust settles.
It's the same shit on different sides of the street. Teachers can strike, we can be "hold me down squad I have a flat." Imagine a week or a month where both sides met in the middle. These garbage politicians might, maybe, just maybe, realize that it's time for change.
It is the teachers and the police who should be running things.
It would be nice if the teachers paid their full share to their pension fund. They pay 2 % and us the taxpayers pay the other 9 % !!!!
Lift residency for every city worker. I will gladly take a loss on my house in order to live in the burbs while both the wife and I take home city checks.
765B
As best as I know, teachers were allowed to live outside the city at one time, but that was changed with a grandfather clause. I really do not think anyone looks in earnest at residency complaints. I have known many teachers who do not reside within the city limits. Will the Slum Times also support cops and fire fighters living outside the city? Those are all false arguments that the city uses to compel residency. The real reason is to keep the wages inside the city and keep certain neighborhoods stable.
Gee. The State is owned lock stock and barrel by the Dems. Of course, CTU would expand their demands for more doe re me and smaller class sizes. But hey, it's for the children. Such bullshit.
Chicago teachers are radical, progressive communists. They are the worst of the worst, their union is the worst of the worst. They man the lines when police protests are going on. They're front and center. Ask any of you coworkers what their spouse teacher is doing when there are protests. They're on the front line, demanding our scalps.
What I want is Toni Preckwinkle to explain why she never acted upon teacher misconduct while she w CPS teacher. I also want her to explain how she is going to fix widescale CPS misconduct.
I'm so sick of these whining, part time employees! The ONLY reason they take that job is the pay and to have summer and holidays off! If they were judged on the quality of their students, they would have to pay the city to keep their jobs!
It's a different profession we have no business commenting on what they get. We have zero unity and horrible union representation. We have tac guys who sweat this job so hard they would work for free. Good for the teachers their union fought for it they got it. Until our kiss asses stop kissing ass nothing will change.
Residency is completely ridiculous. No one should have that as a work requirement.
As far as being late, I work in one suburb and live in another. 35 miles away, I get to work with no issue. Many people commute.
I say we pay them for performance. Graduate kids that read, write and do math at their grade level or no raises.
They can’t get other jobs teaching. Most (not all) CPS teachers did apply to other school districts and couldn’t make the cut, so they go with CPS, in hopes of eventually catching on someplace else. Although that rarely happens, CPS teachers usually don’t get hired in the suburbs.
1/27/2019 08:26:00 AM
oh the irony. you can say the same for cpd officers
If city workers move out, the Catholic schools are gone.
"How about that kooky punk from Bridgeport running for mayor who wants 40% of coppers to live in the fucking district they work in?"
Great idea! He has my vote.
I always wanted to work in 16.
oklahoma has a home schooling program that include a 800 dollar stipend to parents for extracurricular activities.
daily assignments through computer with regular state testing to gauge progress.
illinois needs school choice now.
fibune did a story a decade age of the billion dollar price tag just in administrative costs for this 102 county shithole.
fuck the teachers and their outrageous demands.
The full-time faculty at the Shitty Colleges of Chicago are also subject to the same residential restrictions. These educators were about to strike on February 4th, but with the upcoming elections, the city found some magic money to pay them off.
Off topic: Best campaign sign of the aldermanic election season. In the 45th Ward, near intersection of Foster and Lovejoy: "ANYBODY BUT ARENA!"
Don’t know why folks tolerate all the crap in Chicago where every politician is a socialist with their hand in your pocket. Moved from Chicago to Scottsdale where it’s 72 degrees and not a cloud in the sky. My property taxes are 1/5th what I was paying in Chicago on a house of equal valuation. The system is rigged in Illinois and Chicago to squeeze its citizens of every dollar possible. Total debt and unfunded pension liabilities at the city, county and state are so high, the systems are practically bankrupt now but most sheep are oblivious to the financial black holes. My advice? If at all possible, get out of Illinois. Find an exit plan. Otherwise you’ll be stuck, and you’ll be poor, shouldering the massive financial liabilities created by failed liberal economic policies.
They are all entitled and empowered now that they have racist Taxwinkle on their side. She must be defeated and destroyed.
To: 1/27/2019 02:59:00 PM
I used to substitute teach full time before I got on CPD and I can tell you everything you said about being in the classroom is true. CPS,CPD - it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. We're liable and responsible for the actions of bunch of morons on the street every day; CPS is liable for a bunch of morons in the classroom every day. I have a ton of respect for both professions. A lot of times it feels like we're the only ones responsible. Everyone else gets a free pass for their behavior, and it's our fault when we can't "help" them.
The job as a teacher has changed in last 10 years, they are babysitters/police from 7am to 3pm. Then the students are turned over to the city at 3pm.
Most (not all) CPS teachers did apply to other school districts and couldn’t make the cut, so they go with CPS
Same could be said about CPD. So many tested in the burbs but couldn't hack the scores so they settle on CPD.
I'm not a fan of the ctu but your point doesnt hold any water.
Teachers have told me they live out of the city so their children can get a better education. WTF. I believe that around 70 percent live in the suburbs. You can see them dropping their kids off in schools in the suburbs in vehicles containing CURRENT CHICAGO CITY STICKERS.
Stop bashing the teachers! They need their money too! Shitcago and the State of Pissinois are stuck in an overflooded toilet! Until we get a President who served in the military and law enforcement more especially as a County Deputy Correctional Officer we will continue being doomed!
The American public education system is the "soft underbelly"
of American society by which children are indoctrinated to
collectivist ideology and all the other corrosive, corrupt,
evil, nonsensical, perverse, "counter-culture" shit we see
being manifested.
Long game...
All about the overthrow...
The teachers whinging here about "why do you Cops now
openly hate us" KNOW they're complicit.
Just like everybody likes to shit-talk about "We'll
trust you Cops when you start arresting each other
for "corruption" and "misconduct," we hold the same
expectations for you teachers to rein in their "bad actors."
"But that's our UNION!
Not US! Quit being so mean!"
Teachers should have no friends
or refuge just like Policemen.
Parking Lot:
Betcha filled with expensive big-size SUVs and oversized
pickups. If they ain't buying themselves, hubby has bought
them a "crash shell" to protect the family eggs in case of a accident.
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Hot for Teacher: maybe the teachers smoke pot to combat public
school PTSD. they realize they just have to grind it out just to get
a pension.
Residency: when you don't have to live with them and there is no
chance you will ever run into them or the parents in a grocery store,
it's a little easier to live with and tell yourself "this is only for now."
times change......
just remember, in the 1940s, parents considered JAZZ
to be the Devil's Music
Did ya'll ever pull those soft drink machines from public schools?
A toxic brew of caffeine and sugar and carbonated water.
How can that stuff be safe for kids on Ritalin? What about the
candy bar machines. People in South America hate the U.S.A.;
sugar is considered "White Death" and they are more than happy
to ship all we want up North.
I can picture the ISP wheeling out those machines on dollys just
like video poker machines from bars.
that's the sound of the cash truck backing up to your house
I wonder what the proposed Commuter Tax will be with the increase for city workers living outside the city. Did i hear a Dem-o-rat laughing sucker
We really need to get rid of our residency requirements. I hope it’s part of new contract negotiations.
Lifting residency should be our top priority! Let’s blow this popsicle stand!!! I can’t wait to leave! Six years left! If some other Government employees can live where they choose, God bless them! Cook County workers live out side of the County! CTA workers can live outside of the State! This archaic system of make people live here is Communist DemocRATS shit! People should want to live here not held hostage and made to live here!
We are the ones they like to be little and hold down! I really hate this place! We will always be treated like second class citizens until they let us have the same rights as everyone else!
Will be interesting to see how the residency issue works with the teachers.
But don't forget that there is a big difference between CPS and CPD residency.
The teacher's is an administrative policy. Stroke of a pen and it's gone. City residency for city employees is an ordinance.
A law.
City Council would have to vote and pass a repeal. And the Mayor, whoever that is, has to sign it.
If we have to live in this shithole of a city, then they should surf like we do!
1/27/2019 06:58:00 AM
"CHARLIE DON'T SURF!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU9Y1sNs1rs
We should support their efforts.
We're wanting the same things, aren't we?
A unified front, or at the very least precedent(s) for our contract.
The product turned out at CPS has little to do with teacher quality. Look what gets sent to them. Teachers are essentially babysitters, who are expected to keep passing these cretins year after year.
Then these people go onto "college" at the City Colleges, totally unprepared. There they take courses in how to make it in college. Few even go on to get their two-year degree, let alone go onto a four-year school.
While we're on the subject sure, give them "free" college at CCC. They get their money back when they graduate.
80 percent of cpd students live in poverty. School is a baby sitting center, not a place of higher learning. Free breakfast and lunch, teach manners and attitude, learning reading writing and math takes a back seat to teaching someone to be a responsible person with goals and values. Hide my cell phone so it doesn't get stolen and wrap all my belongings in sealed plastic bags so I don't take the bed bugs home to my family. Sorry, these teachers earn their pay and who cares where they live.
Anon. Said:
“Don't forget they only pay 2% into their pension and we pick up the balance as city residences.”
In the 80’s the CTU asked for 12% over 4 years. The Board countered with an immediate 7% raise. For some bookkeeping reason, the Board took the money from a pension tax levy fund; therefore they had to pay it on the pension. Net result to teachers was a 7% increase in take home. Take it out this pocket or take it out of. that pocket; it’s all the same.
I was there - retired after 38 years and moved to Texas, land of the 2nd amendment.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Will be interesting to see how the residency issue works with the teachers.
But don't forget that there is a big difference between CPS and CPD residency.
The teacher's is an administrative policy. Stroke of a pen and it's gone. City residency for city employees is an ordinance.
A law.
City Council would have to vote and pass a repeal. And the Mayor, whoever that is, has to sign it.
1/27/2019 11:50:00 PM
Someone here finally noticed. About Damn Time.
And this is why I tell people that CPS/CTU employees are NOT City Employees like S&S or DOT or Water or OEMC or CPD/CFD or even Me.
"Lifting residency should be our top priority!"
No, the pension is our top priority.
Without the pension your living nowhere.
Why doesnt the fop ask mccompstat if he will eliminate residency for cops afterall his prior agencies didn't have residency.Seems like he would be the only one to consider it.
McJersey wants to change the pension.
If you move out of the city you get less.
If you move out of ILL you get much less.
If you are in law enforcement, CPS teachers are NOT your friends! I read a teacher blog (Fred Klonsky) just to see how crazy liberal and cop hating they are. Don’t ever trust a CPS teacher!
Anonymous said...
Lifting residency should be our top priority! Let’s blow this popsicle stand!!! I can’t wait to leave! Six years left! If some other Government employees can live where they choose, God bless them! Cook County workers live out side of the County! CTA workers can live outside of the State! This archaic system of make people live here is Communist DemocRATS shit! People should want to live here not held hostage and made to live here!
We are the ones they like to be little and hold down! I really hate this place! We will always be treated like second class citizens until they let us have the same rights as everyone else!
1/27/2019 11:10:00 PM
A priority over pay and benefits? It will NEVER happen. The mayor and politicians will never lift the residency rule. Why should they? How will it benefit them? Losing middle class tax payers? Never will happen.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The job as a teacher has changed in last 10 years, they are babysitters/police from 7am to 3pm. Then the students are turned over to the city at 3pm.
Years ago a teacher had to be certified and pass a test. That changed when not enough teachers could pass the test so they did away with it
Re:
Anonymous said...
80 percent of cpd students live in poverty. School is a baby sitting center, not a place of higher learning. Free breakfast and lunch, teach manners and attitude, learning reading writing and math takes a back seat to teaching someone to be a responsible person with goals and values. Hide my cell phone so it doesn't get stolen and wrap all my belongings in sealed plastic bags so I don't take the bed bugs home to my family. Sorry, these teachers earn their pay and who cares where they live.
1/28/2019 04:04:00 AM
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Go Fuck yourself! Don’t even try to give the impression what a teacher does somehow “earns” them the right to live outside the city. Do me a favor, go to HQ and look at all the officers that have given their lives for this city in the star case. What you do as a teacher doesn’t equate to the sweat on a policeman’s balls.
Also, you think a zip lock bag to avoid bedbugs is so horrible? Try being in that rat infested home on a call.
nonymous said...
80 percent of cpd students live in poverty. School is a baby sitting center, not a place of higher learning. Free breakfast and lunch, teach manners and attitude, learning reading writing and math takes a back seat to teaching someone to be a responsible person with goals and values. Hide my cell phone so it doesn't get stolen and wrap all my belongings in sealed plastic bags so I don't take the bed bugs home to my family. Sorry, these teachers earn their pay and who cares where they live.
1/28/2019 04:04:00 AM
By your reasoning, and I am not saying it is unreasonable, then the same standard should apply to police officers. But, then, under your reasoning, teachers who are in very good schools in good areas and cops who work in good areas should be excluded?
City Council would have to vote and pass a repeal. And the Mayor, whoever that is, has to sign it.
1/27/2019 11:50:00 PM
or be overturned by federal courts which has been tried before, but maybe time to try again. Teachers cry that they do the best they can with what has been sent them, and there is a lot of truth to that. But, the same applies to the police officers. Weed out the bad teachers and the bad cops and take politics out of both organizations. Education and law enforcement in this city is a money maker for the political class.
oh the irony. you can say the same for cpd officers
1/27/2019 04:45:00 PM
I can see in your haste to counter a false narrative, you add a false narrative of your own. The truth of the matter is the city offers more vacancies, the numbers. The same goes for the suburbs. I know many suburban cops who left to come to CPD and a few who went the other way . I know teachers who are in the city at Catholic schools because they like to teach and do not want the grief of the public school system. But, also, Chicago school system is very union controlled and they make it hard to get rid of problem teachers. The same goes for CPD. Also add politics to the mix.
CPS = Communist Patronage Sycophants
City workers, north side/downtown millennials and illegal aliens are the only people living here who keep it kind of viable.
So who's fault they are living poverty. Not mine I made better choices. They made to have illegitimate children and not getting a education years ago. Your right though about schools being baby sitting centers. Teachers should be paid accordingly as baby sitters. Have the feeling the 4am poster was a teacher as she admitted that all they do is babysit.
Teachers are bad people! Correctional Officers are good people that deal with bad people! God Bless Correctional Officers! Police bring them to us only after dealing with them for a few minutes or hours. Correctional Officers deal with them for years!
Stop having a cyber reasoning debate! Take it to the mats!
Anonymous said...
"...Also, you think a zip lock bag to avoid bedbugs is so horrible?
Try being in that rat infested home on a call."
1/28/2019 10:24:00 AM
Where even angels fear to tread...
Let alone a bunch of squishy communist sympathizers
like CPS teachers.
Been in plenty of wretched hovels...
Toilet caked full of congealed, fermenting shit and big,
dumb-ass flies lazily buzzing around in the winter time...
>Bump!<
"Oh, 'scuse me office."
>Bzzzzz!<
Where the rats got roaches,
the roaches have fleas and
the fleas have ticks...
Don't miss it one bit.
You have a better chance of playing pickup sticks with your buttcheeks than residency being lifted.
This is beyond riduculous, I know several teacher (and retired "teachers" that live outside the City) along with a ton of CTA employeesl. Why are they allowed to live elsewhere??? Isn't the name Chicago transit authority or Chicago public schools equal to CPD or CFD?? Fuck the cps and cta!!!
Why not a compromise proposal? CPD officers must be residents for x number of years, and can move out after x years on the job living in the City. Mount Greenwood and the Northwest Side won't depopulate overnight. Most coppers won't relocate anyway, they like their neighborhoods and houses. Check out how many Philadelphia PD coppers moved out when they defeated their Residency requirement a few years ago. Less than 10 percent.
How about this, City? Coppers have the option to move out if they pay x dollars up front to waive the Residency requirement, in anticipation of lost tax revenue. The City can make a quick couple of million right away. Coppers can roll the Residency waiver fee into their mortgage for their big new homes in the suburbs.
There's gotta be a middle ground somewhere. It's not a question of "be careful what you wish for" (can't wait to hear that douchebag sound off), it's a question of having the choice. Not being a second-class citizen whose rights are circumscribed.
FOP? Hello? Anyone?
Lifting residency is a double edged sword. Try selling your home once a glut of homes all go on the market at the same time. How are you going to feel when that home you bought for 300k sells for 200k? Every action has a reaction and while we all look at the pluses of being able to leave, there are downsides. When Chicago is left as a ghost town and ends up like Detroit, watch how fast the Illinois constitution is changed and you get that letter saying your pension has been cut in half. Yeah fuck the city... But be careful what you wish for.
In case you're interested in a better residency requirement, Woodridge PD is accepting applications for Lateral Hires... residency requirement is within 30 miles of town. Salary, schedule, and benefits aren't too shabby either - just sayin.
Application: https://www.vil.woodridge.il.us/index.aspx?nid=361
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why not a compromise proposal? CPD officers must be residents for x number of years, and can move out after x years on the job living in the City. Mount Greenwood and the Northwest Side won't depopulate overnight. Most coppers won't relocate anyway, they like their neighborhoods and houses. Check out how many Philadelphia PD coppers moved out when they defeated their Residency requirement a few years ago. Less than 10 percent.
How about this, City? Coppers have the option to move out if they pay x dollars up front to waive the Residency requirement, in anticipation of lost tax revenue. The City can make a quick couple of million right away. Coppers can roll the Residency waiver fee into their mortgage for their big new homes in the suburbs.
There's gotta be a middle ground somewhere. It's not a question of "be careful what you wish for" (can't wait to hear that douchebag sound off), it's a question of having the choice. Not being a second-class citizen whose rights are circumscribed.
FOP? Hello? Anyone?
City doesn’t want common ground. They have the residency requirement. Why would they want to negotiate?
Fred Klonsky was mentioned. He’s related to Joanna “the commie “ Klonsky who is the pr head of the progressive caucus and a senior adviser to bug eyed, racist, cop hating scum Lori Lightfoot. Progressive caucus must be investigated and exposed. Klonsky also represents fat ass, pig faced crook Patrick Daley Thompson.
"Why not a compromise proposal? CPD officers must be residents for x number of years, and can move out after x years on the job living in the City. Mount Greenwood and the Northwest Side won't depopulate overnight. Most coppers won't relocate anyway, they like their neighborhoods and houses. Check out how many Philadelphia PD coppers moved out when they defeated their Residency requirement a few years ago. Less than 10 percent.
How about this, City? Coppers have the option to move out if they pay x dollars up front to waive the Residency requirement, in anticipation of lost tax revenue. The City can make a quick couple of million right away. Coppers can roll the Residency waiver fee into their mortgage for their big new homes in the suburbs.
There's gotta be a middle ground somewhere. It's not a question of "be careful what you wish for" (can't wait to hear that douchebag sound off), it's a question of having the choice. Not being a second-class citizen whose rights are circumscribed."
This sounds very workable. Why call someone a douchebag because he/she pointed out what might happen if residency was lifted in an unlimited mannor?
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