Fourteen Year Old Shooter
- A judge allowed a 14-year-old boy to go home and come back Monday after he was accused of opening fire at the CTA’s Argyle station in Uptown this week.
“Over our objections, the minor was released to the custody of a parent,” Cook County state’s attorney’s office spokeswoman Tandra Simonton said in an emailed statement.
The boy, who appeared in juvenile court before Judge Linda Pauel on Friday, is charged with two counts of attempted first-degree murder and aggravated battery with a gun.
And it's the police's fault!
- Prosecutors requested that the boy be held in custody, but the judge found that under the law he must be released because he was held in custody for 42 hours by the police and was not brought before a judicial office within 24 hours, Simonton said.
An error? Or an overabundance of caution?
- Chicago police said they were worried for the safety of the boy, especially in light of the fact that his picture, taken by CTA surveillance cameras, has been posted in multiple news reports.
Prosecutors also asked for electronic monitoring, but that was denied as well, Simonton said.
Yummy Sandifer anyone?
Anyone want to place odds on if the shooter makes it through the weekend alive?
More gun laws would have stopped this, right?
Anyone want to place odds on if the shooter makes it through the weekend alive?
More gun laws would have stopped this, right?
Labels: crime, dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
88 Comments:
wow. just wow.
10 plus 4 fall through the hangman's door
Ah Yummy, that’s a blast from the past. Get it? A blast!
SCC, unfortunately 90% of the Department has no idea what you mean by "Yummy Sandifer." More importantly,they dont realize that we are now an agency without a real mission. DON'T enforce drug laws but learn to give narcotic antagonists to save a junkie. Law enforcement is siMply over in Chicago.
Odds are he won’t live to see tomorrow
The kid is as good as dead.
Whoever gave him the gun is going to be afraid the kid will rat him out. So those lips will be sealed........forever.
Two men, 34 and 41, were wounded. The 34-year-old was hit in the back, abdomen, buttocks and groin and was taken to Presence St. Francis Hospital in Evanston in critical condition, while the other victim refused medical treatment for a graze wound, police said.
During a Monday news conference near the scene, police said both victims were targeted by the shooter.
Playing in the Big League now. 14 years old. What were you doing when 14? Bustin' caps? Rockin' a Glock? Mom and Pastor must be proud.
Didn't Krimesha gather her vast expertise at Juvenile Court? Looks like her legacy is starting to take hold. Will the Republicans get off their duff and finance Chris Pfankuche's candidacy?
Retired .38 spl +P
Corey Booker & his liberal moron friends would have prevented this through their gun control agenda their promoting to get to the white White House
Remember how the Mob used to bail out their targets for disappearance? I doubt this clown will have thought about the ramifications of being on the 'skreet', though his targets homies likely have. Best wishes on a speedy adjudication, Hood Style
He'll prolly last a couple more years. Them urban utes got strong survival instincts.
Nothing will change until the States Attorney and Judges are held accountable for their actions ( let them be able to get sued !). Change the laws!
She ( the judge) was elected by the overwhelming support and effort of a one John Areana
I Think that the problem with the cook county justice system is that the only party held liable is the police.
If prosecutors and judges could be fined, fired and imprisoned for their actions, like police, it would be a better, more just world.
“Anyone want to place odds on if the shooter makes it through the weekend alive?”
If the Judge doesn’t care? Why should I?
As a non-police officer all I can say is WTF! This is ridiculous.
He is charged with attempted murder and docent even have to wear a tracker. Docent the judge realize that would help finding the body? Its hard to decide if I want him to make it through the weekend or not. If he makes it it will just be postponing the ineffable with the chance he would kill some innocent persons before he meets justice.
So many coppers and supervisors believe the custody clock begins when the arrestee arrives in the station. It actually begins when the person is no longer free to go, i.e. the street.
Also, the 24, or 48 hour rule requires the arrestee to appear before a Judge within 24 or 48 hours...not to have changes approved within that time frame
You actually get a lot less than 24 or 48 hours
So is this 24 hour limit a real law?
Which office can't count it didn't know of the requirement?
Good to see the without supervision release. This kid doesn't need supervision he knows his way around a gun and the streets. No training wheels needed.
Imagine this kid living in your neighborhood, stone cold killer with a target on his back, keep your kids inside this weekend and hope he stays away.
He has a lot of homework this weekend, duh.
He should meet his maker. It’s only a matter of time. Now he thinks he has the city by the balls and will probably get into a shoot out with Police.
Three more years
He has chosen his path in life and he won’t change. What’s it matter if he dies this weekend or next year? He will not live to see 21 and you can take that as gospel.
Where are the fu#kin parents ? Or auntie or grandma?
Targeted ? What about all the innocent bystanders that this punk could have killed or maimed ?
Eff the judge, too.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/stevens/ct-life-stevens-friday-judge-gives-books-0901-story.html
Seriously? No experienced detectives or their supervisors knew this?
so.....the kid walks....maybe he makes it to his 21st birthday, either in jail or in the cemetery, or maybe not....either way, who cares
Maybe Mayor Frog Eyes or Thulsa Doom can put him up in one of their places.
Anonymous said...
So is this 24 hour limit a real law?
5/11/2019 05:57:00 AM
No its not a law-its a City General Order. When dealing with juvie offenders, you must have your case put together as much as you can before arresting him because you have to have charges approved and the paperwork before a judge within 24 hours. I don't know the circumstances that took place to detain this kid over 24 hours. But be aware of this: this is NOT a law. This is the guidelines that the city has placed upon us (Chicago PD). The Supreme Court has determined "a reasonable amount of time". Many of our suburban police departments still use 72 hours as the time in which to charge adult offenders. We used to have 72 hours for adult offenders and then the City made it 48 hours and then they made it 48 hours to have the paperwork before a judge. Therefore, if there are reasonable circumstances that led to detention for over 24 hour hours regarding this juvie offender then all is good. The issue we have is that the Juvie Court judges are extremely liberal. Thus the judge let the kid out but the case is still pending.
So is this 24 hour limit a real law?
Not sure about the 24 hour rule for juveniles.
But as for the 48 hour rule for adults that is a CPD policy.
Genrrally a person arrested must be processrd and made ready for bail within a reasonable amount of time. Usually held by courts to be 72 hours. Chicago took it on itself to go with the 48 hour time limit.
Odds are he won’t live to see tomorrow
5/11/2019 12:27:00 AM
Secret..... Agent Maaaaan!!!!
its not like he killed anyone....just shot a couple people in a very public place in the middle of a bunch of innocent bystanders....geez guys, lighten up
Read the story of "Yummy."
Just about lost my cookies.
Chris Pfankuche should run again for Republican States Attorney. The time is right to put those wheels in motion.
So many coppers and supervisors believe the custody clock begins when the arrestee arrives in the station. It actually begins when the person is no longer free to go, i.e. the street.
Also, the 24, or 48 hour rule requires the arrestee to appear before a Judge within 24 or 48 hours...not to have changes approved within that time frame
You actually get a lot less than 24 or 48 hours
5/11/2019 05:40:00 AM
He was in city custody a lot less than 24 hours. The county failed to get him in front of a judge on time. So many coppers and supervisors believe they are experts when they don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
If there were stronger gun laws Lincoln would be alive today!
Shame on that judge.
What a fucking joke.
Why doesn’t the judge let the little angel stay with her until his next court date?
A ghetto version of you had one fuckin job!!!! That kid's shot caller will not be pleased.
I was thinking hard about this on the toilet and decided - i don;t care
He's out in time for a flash mob appearance at North Riverside Mall. Hurray!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ah Yummy, that’s a blast from the past. Get it? A blast!
5/11/2019 12:20:00 AM
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I was at the viaduct scene and later had the misfortune of being at Sandifers house, not knowing it was them of course [wink, wink], and questioned why they had a airbrushed on velvet portrait of a gangbanger [Yummy] on their living room wall? We were asked to leave. No problemo.
This kid may make it through the weekend, but its doubtful he will make it to 18. I wonder what his father had to say about all this.....
This is SOP in the crook County justice system.
Playing the gangster life at 14? What are his chances at a productive future? 1%? ... if that. A culture that embraces this silly bullshit , that will land you in jail or the cemetery. The parent(s) have failed to win the hearts and minds of these kids. I have an idea..teach classes in civil behavior in schools instead of the boogeyman burge.
Stop worrying about the Perps getting ventilated if the Judge or SAO give ROR.
Let the Self Cleaning Oven Operate.
F%$K the Thugs. Sc$*w the Yutes and Folks that live the "Lifestyle."
If its a 24 hour Hold....don't keep them longer than 23 hours...
Let the Self Cleaning Oven Operate.
This boy better be more careful.
Stuff like this can affect this future honor student's admittance to his chosen Ivy League university.
90% of the department doesn’t know about Yummy, just like 50% of the department don’t know Lightfoot from her OPS days. We’re screwed and we don’t even realize it.
He would of been much safer if he got locked. His own gang is going to take him out or the "opps". The juvenile court Judge's are on a another level of stupid.
Scc check out all the new merit hacks... apparently working out in the academy for 15 years, can not only get you a merit Sgt spot but also a merit LT spot.
Is 05:11 a real contributor or just some troll attempting to make the blue appear uneducated?
Use of totally incorrect words but spelled correctly- very clever. Not!!
I can actually see the logic of this decision. After all, white 14-year-olds are released to the custody of their parents - you have to treat black 14-year-olds the same way. It's called equal rights under the law. As far as what the 14-year-olds have actually done, well, no one forces you to even think about that - it's not something you focus on - it's too inconvenient.
If you are stuck with the 24 hr rule, that’s one thing but how can the judge deny electronic monitoring?
“DEMS” will get to him soon!!!! Dead men tell no tails!
The clock doesn’t start until he’s in secure custody. The issue was prob trying to get the victims in and whether to charge as an adult.
holy fucking shit batman!!!! are you kidding me?
the fucking judge should be locked up with the idiot gun toting moron.
somebody from the federal government needs to take control of cook county legal system ASAP!!!
Maybe the Commander can make another Star Wars video and solve this
thank u judge, the hood will get justice
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Years back a Hispanic judge in Juvie ct let a hispanic youth charged with murder released to his parents stating that it was proper as it was only his first murder. Forward a couple of weeks and bingo,#2 was notched up by the minor respondent,as they say in court. No comment from the judge. And so it goes officers. Get out there and get'um. 19-P
Who is the judge , name , address so BLM , Father flakey , revruns jackass and notsosharpton can protest .
Maybe not , normal behavior for some groups , you know , a gang thing.
Maybe judge wants street justice for that young violent assasin.
No guns on CTA property? Only applies to responsible CCW permit holders , not 14 year olds . Let’s hope that this was a first time offender .
You can bet it won’t be his last attempt murder , maybe next time he will succeed , maybe even murder an innocent child .
Defendant must not have ties to Kim Foxx, otherwise there wouldn't have been an objection
Something tells me the real victims in this crime were the citizens who's trip home delayed by the train stoppage. The cure for cancer is not going to be postponed by the loss of any of the players in this incident.
" . . . sometimes kids do goofy things . . . "
Video link to kids and goofy things
So it's all ok, they are all allowed to do that
Kids Be Goofy
We are saved now:
Nearly 200 new Chicago police officers receive assignments
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/nearly-200-new-chicago-police-officers-receive-assignments-1
DIdnt lose a nice sleep for yummy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXSHzl6PI50
College types call it karma.
I think they call it GITTING GOT
Let’s see.... if the victims’ home boys don’t kill him, whoever sent him out on the “hit” will.
He might last the weekend, IF he understands that he’s a target for one gang and a liability for another.
Hide deep, little rabbit!
He was charged and transported to County long before the 24 hrs. County screwed up, not CPD. They are backtracking now, realized they screwed up. Again.
Well according to lori it’s lack of economic opportunities in the ghetto. She has already said she will flood the west and south sides with police officers because those are the areas where there is out of control crime but it’s due to lack of economic opportunities ( ghetto talk for not enough free money). She went to Washington to meet with the liberal scum to ask for more taxpayer money for those feral scum who carjack, Rob, steal, smoke dope constantly, have kids they can’t afford, and are unable to live in modern society but vote dummycrat. Those of us who work must pay for those who refuse to and that hasn’t worked since the great society. Lori was elected because of Rahm, the sun times and tribune Chris Fusco and Bruce Dold and Joyce who made a deal with Lori to take votes from Daley.
The SAO is lying. It’s their fault. Media, FOIA the detectives’ reports. I know...
Where's his daddy ?
It's the white man's fault,
Saw his head on CWB blog----unusually large for a kid his
age. Attire is problematic: 70s era Adidas jacket with the
3-stripe shit on the arms. Expensive. Reminds me of Bill
Cosby, and we all know how that turned out.
Perspective:
Perverts don't patronize strip bars.
Anthropologists do.
This a prime example of why I vote no on ALL judge retention questions. Never remember who the bad ones are so I vote against all. Willing to throw out the baby with the bath water because we need NEW bathwater.
WTH?!?! I’m sick of these mamas singing the tune of “Woe is me and I’m a single parent” BS song! You HAD the CHILD, now DO YOUR JOB and be a PARENT!!!! STOP blaming the police and society for your laziness in stepping up to EXPECT your child to be a productive citizen.
It’s disgusting that no matter how many jobs all of our family members take on to pay for our OWN bills (without assistance from public programs) - we cant quite get ahead due in part to a good chunk of our taxes going to pay for freebies that YOU and YOUR offspring seem to feel that you are ENTITLED to.
Ms. Lori Lightfoot- I voted for you and I begged everyone and their grandmother to vote for you because I thought you were going to be a change and “shine a light.” I was appalled to hear you state that part of the downtown wilding problem was pointed at the socioeconomic differences for these students out on spring break?! (YOU ARE A PARENT WITH A LOVELY FAMILY SO I HOPED YOUR PARENTING STYLE AND PHILOSOPHY WAS CLOSER TO WHAT I BELIEVE IN) but even then I reserved my opinion and gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were just trying to be overly tactful. But PLEASE... once you are inaugurated on the 20th please please please take a truthful hard look at a certain section of the city population that cause so much grief to hard working, tax paying citizens that are exhausted and squeezed into a city that no longer holds the beauty and joy it once did.
Hope the little turf gets a dirt nap real soon. Poetic justice. Live by the sword DIE by the sword. Good riddance to bad garbage.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Didn't Krimesha gather her vast expertise at Juvenile Court? Looks like her legacy is starting to take hold. Will the Republicans get off their duff and finance Chris Pfankuche's candidacy?
Retired .38 spl +P
5/11/2019 12:54:00 AM
You have got to be kidding.
I'll bet you the 14 year old ain't a Boy Scout.
I don't believe in Evolution but Darwin got it right with Yummy...might be good for this yuth as well.
Parents? You mean mama and the current baby daddy. Wait for street justice to take place, then they can sue cook county claiming the little angel would be alive if only they held him custody like they was supposed to. Cook county criminal justice system needs to be dismantled, it is beyond hope or reason. The politics of race has rendered it useless.
ABC News and the Mayor said today that the 14 year had 16 previous arrest before his arrest for the shooting, and remember he is only 14 years old!!
He’s finna get got!
A 14 year old with 16 arrests shoots two people and goes home with mommy. Almost 30 years in law enforcement, most of that pushing a beat car, and it's one of the goofiest things I have seen on this job.
Sure, sandifer doesn't have a yummy Cook County connection at Juvi? Needs investigation
Oh here we go rahm on TV acting so surprised 14 yr old with 16 arrests.Oh boy how did this happen? Its so pathetic .Actually in less then 8 years(2 terms) Chicago has been tranformed into a hellhole.Now your'e getting on tv to tell us how horrible it is ,when you created it!Very bad and very evil.Own it,its yours.
Cook County also missed the 14 heard old's warrant.
You know, this kind of news make me really angry. I have two boys myself and despite being a single mother I always know where they are, what they do and that they never are" on the loose ".
They are being provided with love and care.With everything they need at age 12 and 8. I wouldn't call myself a good mom if I let them out of sight even for a moment. Of course, they are being given a certain amount of freedom but it is a parent's responsibility to make sure the child is safe and do not get into trouble.
I am amazed with hundreds of teens in this City going free anywhere they want and doing anything they want. Acting like animals without respect for people or property. Or both.
The parents only show up when something happens and they blame POLICE?!
Unbelievable!!
I am very sorry, Officers, you have to deal with all this.
I am teaching my kids respects to law and people who enforce it. Without the law there is only chaos and death.
It is time for Chicago to realize it.
How come the kid wasn't charged per bullet fired
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