More Gun Database Drama
- Bond reform activists Monday spoke out against the Chicago Police Department’s new online database showing bond amounts for people charged with gun crimes — pitting themselves against Mayor Lori Lightfoot and police Supt. Eddie Johnson, who support the Gun Offender Dashboard.
“The Gun Offender Dashboard claims to list bond court outcomes for people charged with violent gun crimes. But that’s exactly what it doesn’t do,” said Sarah Staudt, a policy analyst at the Chicago Appleseed Fund for Justice. “Ninety-nine percent of the people listed on that website are charged with offenses where they are not accused of hurting anyone.”
Instead, she said, many people are on the database for a “mere possession of a weapon.”
The CPD releases booking photos and lists of charges all the time. This is merely an additional bit of data pointing the finger squarely where it belongs - at the Courts and at Crimesha.
Here's some amusing snowflake reasoning:
Here's some amusing snowflake reasoning:
- “We know jailing people pretrial actually increases their risk of re-arrest,” [Sharlyn Grace, the executive director of the Chicago Community Bond Fund] said. “It increases recidivism because putting people in jail destroys any positive things that are going on in their lives. It destroys jobs, stable housing, positive social connections. By jailing so many people in the past, we have created more crime in Chicago.”
No moron, getting caught with a gun again increases recidivism. Making criminal choices destroys opportunities - choices made of their own free will by the way.
If you need examples of low/no bail increasing crime and teaching criminals there are no consequences to their actions, hop over the the CWB Blog. They have so many examples of gun offenders being caught within days carrying more guns that it's embarrassing. And they only cover two neighborhoods that were at one time notoriously crime free.
If you need examples of low/no bail increasing crime and teaching criminals there are no consequences to their actions, hop over the the CWB Blog. They have so many examples of gun offenders being caught within days carrying more guns that it's embarrassing. And they only cover two neighborhoods that were at one time notoriously crime free.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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These people make absolutely zero sense ! WTF
OT. Students allowed to take medicinal pot in school for any approved affliction, autism to anxiety. It’s like the twilight zone FFS
These dipshits need to be told:
"Criminal activity comes with certain risks, including, but not limited to, arrest, prosecution, incarceration, injury, maiming, and Death. If any of this bothers you, your loved ones, or heirs: DON'T ENGAGE IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY!"
"If you need examples of low/no bail increasing crime and teaching criminals there are no consequences to their actions, hop over the the CWB Blog. They have so many examples of gun offenders being caught within days carrying more guns that it's embarrassing. And they only cover two neighborhoods that were at one time notoriously crime free."
They are afraid that the taxpayers might actually see how screwed up the criminal processing system is. It's a processing system, not a justice system. It hasn't been a Justice system for a long time.
This program could force Foxx to revoke bonds and actually try to convict the POS; least it show the public the revolving door without consequences given to gun offenders.
This is all part of the "Mass Incarceration" criminal justice reform ideas that every liberal has fell for, hook, line and sinker.
Here is an interesting video about how three educators are trying to expose the birthplace of similar junk science publications. They really got one over on them. link: https://youtu.be/kVk9a5Jcd1k
If you are not familiar with Ms. Grace check out Chicago Appleseed.Com and the National Lawyers Guild.Com. Two far left wing radical groups that can’t wait to hurt those in law enforcement.
If you look closely, these activists are radicals and many are marxists so anything they say should probably be dismissed out of hand. They're invested in bringing down our society in any way possible. We have to live with the consequences of their unicorn dreams while they go home to Glencoe or Winnetka for the night.
Step one: Carry a gun illegally. Step two: shot someone. If you stop someone at step one, you do not get to go to step two. The snowflakes just can't get that simple progression in their liberal minds.
New political slogan:
“More gun laws, less enforcement.”
—Not a cop
If she is so sure that these people have potential then invite them to live next door to you. She will have her eyes opened up to what reality is like very quickly.
they forgot to mention (GASP) the trauma of family separation.
wonder how much grant money these fools get. this Chicago Appleseed Fund for Justice and other whack job organizations need a closer look.
This "Appleseed" lady sounds like one of the dumbest people I have ever heard of. Her reasoning defies all logic. When I see young people like her I realize how doomed we really are as a Country. To think that morons like her are our future? God help us.
Go the the registered gun database, just click on the 5000 w Madison dress that appears on the page. There are 8 offenders on that one block! I'm sure there are more offenders than registered voters in the same area. WTF
He's turning his life around....
He found God....
He goes to church every Sunday....
He's mentoring kids....
He's working 2 jobs....
He's a good kid....
He's just funnin....
He's taking care of his kids....
He's a pillar in the community....
Instead, she said, many people are on the database for a “mere possession of a weapon.”
Hasn't the NRA been saying this every time Democrats try to pass new gun laws against otherwise law abiding members? Then again we can't actually punish the real guilty people who are carrying in service of the drug economy.
We have to live with the consequences of their unicorn dreams while they go home to Glencoe or Winnetka for the night.
8/13/2019 01:37:00 AM
Comment of the day.
New York knows how to do it...........
..........Ex-NBA player Sebastian Telfair gets over 3 years on weapons charges.
Telfair was stopped in his Ford F-150 pickup truck in Brooklyn in 2017 for driving without his lights on and illegally parking on the median of Atlantic Avenue. Cops then found three loaded handguns, a submachine gun, ammunition, extended magazines and a ballistic vest during a search of his vehicle.
https://nypost.com/2019/08/12/ex-nba-player-sebastian-telfair-gets-over-3-years-on-weapons-charges/
SO NOW IT COMES OUT!
24-yr old Ethan Kollie LIED about drug use to purchase
firearm used by Dayon mass killer Connor Betts.
Surprise! Another straw purchase. Except in this case,
Kollie was flat out loaded with THC.
What about drug screening for these stoners who have
somehow progressed through life without a criminal
record? This could have saved 9 lives!
Two peas in a pod: Betts & Kollie. At least we have
one of them in custody to serve as a poster boy.
One of my favorite quotes from one of the most censored online and radio personalities.
"What kind of upside down bizzaro world are we living in?"
Alex Jones
Newswars.com
This is a good way to keep the pressure on the prosecutors and judges. While you may not get to keep it, each of these stories bring attention to "Crimeesha," and her policies -- which are hurting law abiding citizens. When they shut this one down, the CPD needs to come up with another policy that'll annoy them, then that'll bring news and pressure. It'll only change when the citizens have had enough...
“We know jailing people pretrial actually increases their risk of re-arrest,” [Sharlyn Grace, the executive director of the Chicago Community Bond Fund] said. “It increases recidivism because putting people in jail destroys any positive things that are going on in their lives. It destroys jobs, stable housing, positive social connections. By jailing so many people in the past, we have created more crime in Chicago.”
CPD needs a new "Fetal" program , just issue invitations to appear in court, crime will vanish
Keep the database. Everyone should know who is a danger to law abiding society.
OT: Be safe and I pray God sheild and protect each of our LEOs
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chp-officer-gunman-dead-in-shootout-near-freeway-report
Please pray for all fallen and injured officers. I'm sick of seeing our real heroes lose their lives, health, sanity, security, and all they hold dear to the evil ones.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If she is so sure that these people have potential then invite them to live next door to you. She will have her eyes opened up to what reality is like very quickly.
8/13/2019 03:18:00 AM
Better: make these nut jobs give up space in their homes, money, food, and their jobs to these freeloaders.
Griot announced yesterday that Chicago crime is down. Just more phony Stats.
can't hide arrest data in a free nation - that's how it works.
Can't say the offender wished to hide the information in a free nation - that's too slippery a slope.
We're here! We're Transparent! Deal with it!
So let me get this straight. Its not okay to publish a list of individuals who have been charged with gun offenses because they haven't been convicted but it is okay to publish a list of coppers who have gotten CR #s but were either exonerated or it was found there wasn't enough evidence to substantiate the claim. Is it me or can't these sjw morons tell their left from their right? Fucking hypocrites.
I wonder why they didn’t make this much of a fuss when the citizens data website came up, or when a cop gets “accused” of something its ok to put all of his/her info out there. Don’t wanna be on the new “database” don’t carry a gun illegally and or don’t commit a crime. Seems pretty simple.
Let me guess- female white from Schaumburg will tell us how to deal with Chicago's gun problem. Lol
"mere possession of a weapon.”
These are THE EXACT SAME PEOPLE calling for gun confiscation for law-abiding citizens. They'll start with the scary-looking ones, and work down.
They've chosen a side, and it's not the side of law, order, and a peaceful, productive citizenry.
Snowflake logic.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Maybe she should spend a night in Englewood, with all her Liberal friends and have a Pizza party!
So liberals are actively protecting criminal gangbangers' right to possess guns, but actively stripping rights away from law abiding citizens' right to possess guns????
There’s no cure for stupid!
How many bleeding heart liberal groups are there?
Almost everyday someone is quoted from this or that policy group that I never even heard of.
Mere weapons possession.
Where do they find these kooks?
Not a single one of these mere arrestees were in mere legal possession of the mere firearms.
What part of the Law on the Books for Unlawful Possession don’t these people and the Cook County get?
Too much heat up in here.
I expect LightLoafer to end the community decisive Big Johnson’s Dashboard Program but keep the big johnson.
Not sure snowflakes is the correct term for these people since they are all crawling out from some rock. These boys gs need to be stepped in n hard.
Sarah Staudt is an attorney for a legal clinic on the West side, The Lawndale Legal Center. She is a firm believer that the police are the cause of crime and that every case that comes into her office is a frame by the cops, yes, everyone is innocent. You can go to just about every suburban newspaper and they list everyone arrested in their towns, even very minor offenses and traffic, Staudt and her ilk do not have a leg to stand on. They are hoping that the mayor will buckle.
OK, I'm repeating myself, but important truths need to be repeated:
"One death is a tragedy, a million deaths are just a statistic".
That was Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin responding to reports that a million Christian farmers/peasants had starved to death in the Ukraine during the Holodomor, the Soviet forced collectivization of private farm land in the 20s and 30s.
In our case here in Chicago - we have dreadful statistics like 3,000 plus annual shootings, 600 plus annual murders and ~ 85% of murders go unsolved, unpunished. 85% of Chicago murderers get away with murder!
These are bad statistics, but they don't inspire great urgency in the public or great urgency in political, cultural powers that could bring radical change to improve things.
Instead what is needed are presentations of individual tragedies. The Lying anti White Left does this all the time hyping some supposed individual tragedy like Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown in Ferguson MO, the Duke University Lacrosse team rape hoax, Tawana Brawley rape hoax, or recently the Jussie Smollet lynch hoax.
Even though these incidents were all lies, great exaggeration - the lying press, Liberal Leftist elites, NAACP/ADL/SPLC all hyped these individual incidents as great personal tragedies that supported their world view that supported their demands, led to SH** like BlackLiesMatter Kim Foxx getting elected as Chicago's top criminal prosecutor.
OK, it's obviously late in the game and our side suffered the huge disadvantage that we don't own a single Cable TV news network or a single Hollywood studio or a national newspaper of record like the New York Times, WaPost. But we have to do our best given our situation.
We must present TRUE individual tragedies like this case where a dangerous gun criminal is repeatedly getting away with breaking Chicago gun laws.
Liberals are supposed to be for enforcing gun laws, they are supposed to be for responsible Gun Control. So just enforce existing gun laws and use very specific individual tragedies like this one, or better yet a true tragic incident where some sympathetic person was murder. One such incident was when the gun offending punk was let loose on ankle bracelet monitoring and he proceeded to go out on the town, got in to a dispute with some Hispanics and targeted the first Hispanic he met for murder, which turned out to be an off duty Hispanic policeman. That's an individual tragedy that could turn public opinion and turn political, media elites. All it takes is a Lee Atwater type political consultant to do like Atwater did with Willie Horton.
J Ryan
LeftBehindInChicago
jackryanod@protonmail.com
Gun Offender Dashboard demonstrates the failure of criminals with guns, repeat gun offenders getting No Bonds, Low Bonds, I Bonds. These are the same people who want gun control for you and me but not for Dude, Inc. The same idiots who want gun offenders to shoot and maim the Community again and again. You get caught with a gun or use a gun in the commission of a crime you go to jail and stay there. The Dash Board exposes these public officials for the liars that they are. At every Police Public Affairs meeting bring the Dash Board out and discuss it, make it a major talking point at every chance. Embarrass the Judges and Kim Foxx for the shills that they are.
How is it that Marxist and radical left wingers get a loud voice and coverage these days ? In years passed these types would have been dismissed and no one would give them the time of day. This country has crossed over a line and we are going downhill fast.
Nice young men, that our gun grabbers think deserve second , third chances until they get the opportunity to shoot , murder some innocent citizens. California Highway Patrolman shot , murdered on a traffic stop .
COPA ,Groot , Police Haters want CPD to keep weapons holstered at all times .
You can justify having your weapon out , most police shootings are on traffic ,street stops ,domestic disturbances. Also look at the number of calls , should be case reports generated by our new shot spotter technology . These neighborhoods are very dangerous because , violent criminals are released on parole , probation,low bonds . That DePaul slasher was released a few weeks before he went on a rampage .
Publish names of people responsible for his release .
"putting people in jail destroys any positive things that are going on in their lives."
So many children could have enjoyed Pogo the Clown but noooooo, we had to put John Wayne Gacy, Jr. in jail just because of a few dozen murders, didn't we?
"Positive social connections" hardly describe who these mopes run with, live with, or deal with.
While she is actually correct about effect of incarceration on inmates, it has been demonstrated by the criminal's actions that these connections are woefully ineffective or missing where they keep committing crimes. Therefore, society and the law provide for incarceration to protect society from the criminal.
"Gun Offender Database"
=
The general public seeing clearly that Progressivism and all
of it's vile, misshapen children, embody harm of the most
grievous sort to upright and law abiding Society.
Upright and law abiding Society desires most of all -
Public peace, public safety and public order by which upright
and law abiding Society is free and unencumbered to come/go,
move about/assemble - free from impediment/obstruction from
those who defiantly choose to exist outside the boundaries of
what is acceptable and tolerable to Society.
Upright and law abiding Society is facing ruination because of "THEIR"
indeterminable grievance, unreasonable grudges, unrequited jealousy
and unquenchable thirst for vengeance and settling scores against
upright and law abiding Society for "THEIR" failure to launch.
And if you counter-point their narrative with the supposition that
all who inhabit this madly whirling little celestial mud-ball called
Earth, do indeed have a de facto "Contract With Society" that we as
co-inhabitants are personally, morally and ethically compelled to not
only honor but also abide by, (Conscience. Knowing Right vs. Wrong.
10 Commandments. The Great Commission. The Golden Rule. Logic. The Law.,
Et Cetera, Ad Infinitum Ad Nauseam...) will provoke "THEM" to reflexively
denounce YOU as "RACIST" and guilty of having standards and expectations
"too high for US to achieve."
Fuck "THEM" and all who have enabled and supported "THEM."
Let them wander the Sinai of their making until their bones are
swallowed by the sands and their incessant hateful screams and
howls of ginned-up outrage are drowned out and carried off by
the winds.
Heh...
Maybe we're just all fucked-up from half a lifetime of
seeing fucked-up shit while behind the wheel of a CPD
Blue & White...
"Tha' Communerty" demands that we be made to be sensitive
care taking guardians in hope that the hard-eyed and
hard-minded warrior that results from half a lifetime
of seeing "THEM" and what they do to each other, will
somehow be kept from sounding the alarm to the rest of
soft, weak, gullible and vulnerable SOCIETY about "THEM"
and their supporters/enablers and that SOCIETY very properly
responds by being on guard, combative/defensive and vigilant.
"WAH! We can't do wut we do cuz y'all
watchin' US too hard! Dats RAYCIS!"
Oh yeah... The most common theme of these
avid excuse makers?
"All y'all is responsible for US being held back..."
Never underestimate the sheer and visceral hatred embodied by Dude Inc.
and his metropolitan Liberal Democratic Progressive white-guilt
addled enablers and supporters.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
WHOOPSIE!
This might be some of that "obstruction" that the
militantly malignant mannish-assed mayoress
accuses FOP of failing to purge as a demonstration
of "good faith."
>Snicker!<
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
“It destroys jobs, stable housing, positive social connections......”
How many gun offenders have any of that going on?
Will shortly be deemed racist as the majority on it will be POC.
Any thing that shows the criminals is deemed racist a
.
SMMFH.
The water they drink must contain something that absolutely dumb down their thinking,or is it the strong marijuana that fat jb just signed into law, maybe they are sampling it and their brains are dulling rapidly!
There is a big difference between using or firing a firearm or just possessing a firearm. Both are NOT the same.
The public has a right to know who are the criminal scum in their communities. To all you liberal candy asses TOO FUCKING BAD!
SPEAKING OF GUNS , The Toilet Remover came into Office and Laid Off way to many State Workers down in Springfield , Now anyone wanting a Renewal for there Conceal and Carry CCL is taking way to damn long , They Probably have One person working on it . Some People are now waiting more then 4 Months for there renewals. They give the Law abiding Citizen more Crap then they do the Criminal when there caught with a Gun , And the Thieves at the State are even Charging The Same amount for a Renewal ,As when you first applied , $153.53 UNFUCKIN BELIEVABLE
Truly we are at the end of times. At least 50 years and this great country will no longer be thanks to these progressives. So sad, and so sad for our children. Enjoy retirement, take the city for every penny they took from us and never look back. Kiss my ass you fucking hippies, fucking mellenials, ruin everything.
The left is totally off the rails. I’m afraid we are going to have to fight them eventually if we ever want to get this country back to what it was meant to be.
Ah yes but there is also having a firearm legally and not legally. Those legal holders are to be commended. Those illegal holders should be prosecuted to fullest extent of law especially felons with illegal guns. Wake up fools these illegal guns will be used in their next crime. Locking them up is called crime prevention. How hard is that to understand.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is a big difference between using or firing a firearm or just possessing a firearm. Both are NOT the same.
8/13/2019 04:23:00 PM
So I guess it's no big deal for a gang member or street thug to possess a firearm and we should not worry about it until it is used. You can't use a firearm unless you possess it first. Shouldn't the prevention of a shooting/killing be important for law enforcement and get the gang members and thugs off the street for possession? I'm sure the 8 year old girl that was recently shot and her family would liked it if her assailant was arrested before shooting it for only possessing a firearm.
We should be fair.
All judges info related to a case should be posted with a pik
BONDs set by judges
sentences given out by judges.
Each state attorney from felony review to 2nd and 3rd chairs should also be listed
with stat for each attorney
How many actually go to trial
How many cases overturned after conviction
all plea bargain info in DETAIL
How many criminal violate probation
violate parole
HOW many cases and charges dropped and who dropped them.
Start to think like GROOT and this County will collapse on itself.
Fuckem if they don’t like it. Big Ed and little Lori just need to grab their balls and quit being led around like a damn show goat.
Lower crime in Chicago
Move all people on welfare to Evanston , Winetka, Oak Brook , Naperville , Park Ridge , Skokie so the kids can attend schools without metal detection systems , better housing and crime will go down by 75% in Chicago .
It’s so clear these are Marxist and Communists ideologies and propaganda. He was just illegally carrying a gun ... no issue my ASS!!!!!!!!!!
Sarah Staudt is an attorney for a legal clinic on the West side, The Lawndale Legal Center. She is a firm believer that the police are the cause of crime and that every case that comes into her office is a frame by the cops, yes, everyone is innocent. You can go to just about every suburban newspaper and they list everyone arrested in their towns, even very minor offenses and traffic, Staudt and her ilk do not have a leg to stand on. They are hoping that the mayor will buckle.
8/13/2019 10:10:00 AM
And the Idiot of the Year Award goes to Sarah Staudt, Esquire.
I like this appleseed better
https://appleseedinfo.org/
Their work becomes even more important as that other appleseed works to get armed criminals back on the street.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is a big difference between using or firing a firearm or just possessing a firearm. Both are NOT the same.
8/13/2019 04:23:00 PM
You can't use one without possessing one.
From the article:
“Ninety-nine percent of the people listed on that website are charged with offenses where they are not accused of hurting anyone.”
I bet if witnesses and victims would start cooperating, and the clearance rate was raised, that number would be higher. Significantly.
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