Good Lord, Slow Down
- Five Chicago police officers were hurt Thursday when two CPD vehicles crashed into each other during a pursuit in East Garfield Park on the West Side.
The officers were pursuing a car wanted in a shooting when the two police vehicles collided about 10:30 a.m. at Jackson Boulevard and Francisco Avenue, according to Chicago police and fire officials.
Photos show an unmarked squad car crashed through a fence and into a tree on the lawn of the John Calhoun North Elementary School.
Police initially said two of the officers were seriously hurt, but later said all of their injuries were not life-threatening. They were taken to Stroger and Mt. Sinai hospitals, and only one of them needed to be moved with a stretcher.
We're told this vehicle was wanted for a series of high profile crimes across the city. We're also told at least one of the occupants has been released by Crimesha on multiple occasions at a low-to-no-bail status for more than a few violent crimes.
Best wishes to all the injured for quick recoveries.
Best wishes to all the injured for quick recoveries.
Labels: crime, officer injured
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
115 Comments:
WTF!?
I could not care less what any car is wanted for.
Don't chase it.
Too much risk, no reward.
It is Official.011 has overtaken the early 90,s 025th District for totaled Squad Cars/SUVs in a year.Be careful when driving through that District to Court.Those kids grew up in the Fast and Furious era.
I dunno. I feel sorry for these kids. I worked in 011 for a long time many years ago, working bullshit tact and gang teams, playin the dope game in the abandos and Rockwell with my hoody and binos. I just don’t ever remember this many POs involved in crashes in one district. From what I understand, it sounds like Lemmer drove out any copper with any experience. That was a damn shame. Now we have coppers with no experience trained by coppers that had no experience trained by coppers that had no experience...... Like the blind leadin the fuckin blind. I was trained by an old timer Vietnam fuckin veteran FTO that worked his whole career in 011. Later there were old guys on the tact and gang teams. Believe you me, I learned a shit ton every damn shift. Things change. Like I said, I just feel sorry for these kids. They don’t even know how fucking stupid they are. I feel like it’s just a matter of time before some national media newsworthy incident comes outta the hard chargin 011th District. Ugh.
Why the F are you doing anything these days especially chasing cars. You do realize that if you or the shitbird hits and kills someone you are gonna be held responsible. Wake up stay fetal
One thing that always bothered me when going to calls was wondering if some goofy young cop would be blowing through a red light and crashing into me. I've seen too many idiots on this job that think their emergency lights somehow make traffic disappear from the intersections they're flying through. It doesn't work that way kids. More of us die in traffic crashes than by gunfire. Slow the fuck down!
Stop chasing or speeding; simply not worth it !
There have been more police vehicle accidents in the past 8 years than ever before. Sorry to say it's always young officers involved crashing into each other. Damn guys, stop playing real cops. It's not allowed in Chicago anymore.
The 5 injured were all in the tactical car. They were all piled in together because they were supposed to be going to that get behind the vest. Collectively they don't have any common sense. What the fuck are the supervisors telling these guys in 011? Instead of worrying about activity like blue cards and ISRs, supervisors should be more concerned about someone getting killed in a car wreck the way these goofs have been driving and getting into crashes constantly. Eventually the city is going to run out of cars thanks to the 011th district Rangers.
Was this a good chase because the crimes this vehicle was involved in were high profile?
Prayers to the injured officers.
Most of the time, it’s not worth it.
And you can’t help anyone if you don’t get there in one piece.
A few weeks ago someone called out the driving of these young kids on zone 10 and got roasted for it.
It’s kind of a thing though, these young kids on zone 10 need to understand that chasing cars and driving fast and recklessly isn’t all fun and games, there’s real consequences with it. This isn’t a video game.
I keep praying that my brothers and sisters in blue will get the memo of what’s really going on out here, but it seems like constantly we have people forgetting what’s really important and treating this all like a game.
If you need thrills or adrenaline, get a hobby.
Go skydiving.
Run with the bulls.
DON’T take unnecessary risks at work.
Time to send all drivers to the Vachenko safe driving school. This is not the first time this year this has happened. Really stupid, slow down tools.
.........Ugh.
11/22/2019 12:25:00 AM
Grand
Theft
Auto.
Yep.
The video game generations.
Never got the wrong impression of reality from pinball.
Never confused the laws of physics with the rush of adrenaline.
Never got distracted by not being aware we are all made of meat.
Plus, these generations never took a course in the school of hard knocks.
The old school of hard knocks.
Not the millenial school of you hurt my feels!!!
Physics.
It dont give a shit.
Have you driven through the 006th District lately? Lights and sirens everywhere.
Good Lord, Slow Down Amen
Have been retired a number of years after 30 on the street and I can remember how I felt out there just full of piss and vinegar, as the years rolled by seeing what can and does happen you change, you become more careful about ending up in the "trick Bag" (very old CPD term for screwing yourself up in any fashion) seeing that intent light in the eyes of the younger cops when the shit starts to get warm thinking slow down brother. No matter what you do or how you do it there is never a guarantee you won't be jack potted especially today, you can do the right thing for the right reason and still be hung out to dry and left twisting in the wind.
Good Lord, Slow Down
Drive safely.
And fuck Crimesha and Obama.
011th district cowboys. All for a shots fired call. Be glad you racecar drivers only hurt each other and not a citizen or you would be raked over the coals. For the two drivers enjoy your 1-3 days suspension time. You earned every second of it. Should be more. STOP and LOOK!! It’s a ghetto 011th district shots fired. You’re not saving the world I fax your not saving anything even if you catch him. It’s another 011 day. Who cares??? Actually think about it, who really cares??? God knows you shouldn’t.
OT
What do you think the City and the Church want to do with the land of the closed schools? What percent of new residential construction has to be "affordable housing?" why does LL want to unlawfully take away aldetmanic zoning rights?
The task force — comprised of advocates, activists and developers — will focus on updating the city’s Affordable Requirements Ordinance (ARO), which was enacted in 2007 and updated in 2015. It’s a key tool that has provided working families a chance to live in posh neighborhoods.
The ARO requires residential developments that receive city financial assistance, or that involve city-owned land, to provide a percentage of units at affordable rents. However, the ordinance allows developers to opt out of building affordable housing by paying a fee. Half of the ARO fees paid by developers who choose not to build affordable housing on site go toward the city’s Low-Income Housing Trust Fund, which assists families in poverty. And developers have paid tens of millions of dollars into that fund.
“The ARO is, first and foremost, a tool to reverse a century of racial and economic segregation. So that’s our focus,” said Marisa Novara, housing commissioner.
https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/new-task-force-seeks-more-inclusionary-housing-in-chicago/94cfb27c-775d-4e63-a96b-25f06d50769e
Being careful and going home are the priorities.
Don’t chase. However, perfect argument against Cabrini Kim and the free shit army.
011 just requested 6 more unmarks and 10 more marked to hold them for the next six months. Other districts will be placed on hold since there are no repercussions from driving like that. What other district crashes more cars
"Be careful when driving through that District to Court.Those kids grew up in the Fast and Furious era".
And the new young POs coming on now are from the graduated/points restricted IL driver license era -it really isn't the old 16th birthday rite of passage for these kids and it showing in the lack of driving acimen
Two vehicles permanently out of service.
Ouchies and boo-boos a plenty.
For rushing to a misdemeanor and a COPA entrapment.
What was the end result, crash report, IOD, nobody shot and the Jugghaid SpecialEd Chicago Value™️ feral are still at large?
Stupid ass young crazy kids on the no
Start firing these dangerous asshole before they kill someone
They probably all had less than five years FNG’s
Hopeful for a speedy recovery, but seriously why bother getting in a chase knowing what Crimesha will do? Lights, sirens, extreme caution, snails pace is the way to go. If they're not caught today, they'll get caught some other time. I can't believe coppers are still doing this. For what? Use your heads.
Again, best wishes for a full recovery.
The Laws of your community r enforced 4 your protection, simple "OBEY THEM", B. Crawford 21-50 out!
soo.... high profile crimes that WERE NOT occurring for the chase itself... simply they were of interest?
Oye... hello lawsuit
The TV and movie generation. Too much screen time filled by high speed chases that they want to emulate because it is the only style of policing that they know.
I dunno. I feel sorry for these kids. I worked in 011 for a long time many years ago, working bullshit tact and gang teams, playin the dope game in the abandos and Rockwell with my hoody and binos. I just don’t ever remember this many POs involved in crashes in one district. From what I understand, it sounds like Lemmer drove out any copper with any experience. That was a damn shame. Now we have coppers with no experience trained by coppers that had no experience trained by coppers that had no experience...... Like the blind leadin the fuckin blind. I was trained by an old timer Vietnam fuckin veteran FTO that worked his whole career in 011. Later there were old guys on the tact and gang teams. Believe you me, I learned a shit ton every damn shift. Things change. Like I said, I just feel sorry for these kids. They don’t even know how fucking stupid they are. I feel like it’s just a matter of time before some national media newsworthy incident comes outta the hard chargin 011th District. Ugh.
11/22/2019 12:25:00 AM
Very well put, I spent nearly decade in 011, and never once called it Fillmore!! I don’t remember this many car chases, what does the department expect when they don’t want people stopped on the street they want blue cards and traffic stops. the Evans/Lemmer regime ruined that district. I want to say something like 40-50 coppers bid out during their regime. And that doesn’t mention supervisors, although nobody cried when tricky and dubs left. I would like to see a study of crime numbers before lemmer and crime numbers after lemmer.
For shit's sake. I remember being in the academy with Danny Trevino as my home room instructor and he said, 'before you know it, in the blink of an eye, you'll be an old timer.' Take it from the revolver police....we were you once. Nothing and I mean nothing, is more important than your own and your partner's safety. Don't disparage the old-timers. You'll be one faster than you can imagine, and you'll say, 'you know, they were right'. Reign it in. Nobody gives a shit about you especially in this climate of police hate. Except your fellow police. Slow and safe.
There’s absolutely nothing going on in that neighborhood that’s worth even going 5 mph over the speed limit for, let alone lights n sirens. All you young bucks know better though right?! Pro tip.... Get a stack of VINS and take your sweet time.
It’s ok. 011 was grilled from an hour at compstat yesterday, it will all be better soon.
Stop fucking chasing.
Goofs
That intro, sounds like it was lifted from Dragnet.
The only thing missing is 'Los Angeles'.
Yet Kimmie is running again on her “criminal justice reform” platform.
This should be exhibit A for her opponents.
WTF, slow down.
I need you guys to stay on the job for the next 30+ years to pay into the pension.
Stop chasing anyone!! You pups are going to "Pursue" your asses right out of a job! Let the mutts go Kim Foxx is going to let them
go anyway. Your job is to show up, shut up, handle your calls go home safe at the end of your shift!
"Over and out!"
I was working in 11 this week.
The district is Very HIGH strung. Many P.O.’s are flying to calls all night. Many young cops. I can’t criticize them. Many of us old timers were like that when we got on. But society is not the same anymore.
I agree, it’s the supervisors responsibility to guide the young cops into making responsible decisions for their own good.
Squad Can I get a PCI number?
The "Bullitt" Sad Francisco car chase took DAYS to film.
Perhaps if Hollywood industry veterans could give a talk....
The only thing more recent is the Fast & Furious series.....
There was a straight line in the first one "When she first
came off the line, there was so much torque, the frame
bent." I laughed, but the rest of the audience didn't get it.
It's official....the Bullitt chase scene took nearly 5 weeks
to film and lasted 10 minutes and 53 seconds on the screen.
The Command and Supervisory structure in 11th Dist. have not and cannot perform routine supervision of their personnel in policing operations. The Command leadership mentally lives in the 1950's. From the District Commander down the Chain of Command many if not most Supervisors should be removed and broken up and transferred to other parts of the Department. Hopefully some Supervisors can be positively influenced and perform their duties more efficiently and effectively under the leadership of more competent supervisors.
As far as the Commander goes, well he's just an anchor around everyone's neck. A hack and merit failure. The Commander is another broken piece of Special Ed's tarnished legacy. When Ed finally leaves in shame, maybe Mr. CHiP's can dump the Commander of the Murder District known as 011. Save the good District personnel from Bosses who are stuck on stupid.
The lives and safety of the officers as well as the citizens are of paramount importance. There is too much ineptness, lack of leadership cronyism and just plain stupidity. They have no business commanding and supervising professional police officers.
Our brothers and sisters have apart to play in this sad and tragic set of circumstance in 011. You have a brain and common sense. Use it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The 5 injured were all in the tactical car. They were all piled in together because they were supposed to be going to that get behind the vest. Collectively they don't have any common sense. What the fuck are the supervisors telling these guys in 011? Instead of worrying about activity like blue cards and ISRs, supervisors should be more concerned about someone getting killed in a car wreck the way these goofs have been driving and getting into crashes constantly. Eventually the city is going to run out of cars thanks to the 011th district Rangers.
That’s not true at all. The fifth injured officer was in the other police car. Four were tact guys because they ride 4 deep.
I'm retired now but all over the country coppers are getting killed in car crashes, in many parts of the country these are single vehicle crashes where the police car left the road. In rural areas these cops were driving at. High speeds and were young guys with no time on the job, married with kids. Point being, in Chicago these crashes are involving young coppers flying thru the streets and thru intersections against the red light without even hitting the brake and with siren blasting and when you do this you cant hear another siren. We all were young and stupid once but these private citizens in the ghetto dont drive right anyway and dont stop for stop signs etc.Is it worth getting killed or seriously injured permanently leaving behind a family with young kids. Bosses do your jobs and talk with these people at roll call and the department needs to realize that many young folks only started driving at age 16. Do the math, ever see how crazy and reckless they driveon the streets with thier own cars.I dont want to be critical be they need help. A Retired Sergeant
Can’t drive in rain just wait till it snows
Now is the time to make an example out of the ones that don’t follow the rules. Fire their asses and hold them criminally and civilly liable for their foolish actions. It’s a damned miracle all of them are alive.
If you guys and gals want fast driving and pursuits, go to work for ISP or some other department that covers low populated areas.
Don’t get your panties all twisted up when your supervisor demands that you stop the pursuit. You know the rules and consequences, so there’s no excuse. You just need to keep in mind that Foxxy and the judges are just going to release these offenders anyway. Get tha through your head you knuckleheads.
Lights and siren grossly misused here. Leave the damned things off unless you’re responding to back up other officers who are in trouble. Running hot doesn’t give you the right of way. Wiping out innocent people while running hot will haunt you, especially if you kill some kids.
Keep your shit together.
I was detailed there last summer for a few days. These coppers fly around like crazy to stupid ass calls. I told my partner to just pull over and let them go by. There’s no reason to get hurt, sued, fired, or killed flying to a man with a gun call!! Please slow down, seriously it’s not video game. Stay safe
I say, “Oh Well” how many times can you tell these fucking new kids to stop chasing cars and driving recklessly?
I think that every instructor at the driving range should be dumped!
#1 They are not instilling into their fucking brains while they have them for training NO FUCKING PURSUITS AND NO RECKLESS DRIVING
#2 They are not teaching how to operate a department vehicle while responding Priority 1 call
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I dunno. I feel sorry for these kids. I worked in 011 for a long time many years ago, working bullshit tact and gang teams, playin the dope game in the abandos and Rockwell with my hoody and binos. I just don’t ever remember this many POs involved in crashes in one district. From what I understand, it sounds like Lemmer drove out any copper with any experience. That was a damn shame. Now we have coppers with no experience trained by coppers that had no experience trained by coppers that had no experience...... Like the blind leadin the fuckin blind. I was trained by an old timer Vietnam fuckin veteran FTO that worked his whole career in 011. Later there were old guys on the tact and gang teams. Believe you me, I learned a shit ton every damn shift. Things change. Like I said, I just feel sorry for these kids. They don’t even know how fucking stupid they are. I feel like it’s just a matter of time before some national media newsworthy incident comes outta the hard chargin 011th District. Ugh.
11/22/2019 12:25:00 AM
Dude you sound really fucking cool! I’d love to go camping with you sometime and share a tent. I could spend hours listening to your stories.
Couldn't be more clear. They don't want you enforcing the law. Governments all over the country have subscribed to, "we'll get him later", including the most violent offenders.
First, that doesn't work. Bad guys don't hang around for long.
Second, "we'll get him later" just reinforces their worshiped big brother surveillance state.
Lastly, violent criminals should be treated as such. As distorted people who have proven they are capable of the worst humanity has to offer. Not a future college graduate who "made a mistake". Evil men will do evil acts until the day they are dead.
The head of the snake knows all this. They have made a choice to scapegoat police. Don't chase. Clear jobs, get paid and enjoy this short life.
Thoughts and prayers for all involved
Don't foot chase, don't car chase, don't stop anyone(racial profiling).Most chase's end up with injuries, death, and property damage. Wait till the law suits come!
Unless its a 10-1
Intentions are well,however most chase's turn out bad.
Anonymous said...
"...If you need thrills or adrenaline, get a hobby.
Go skydiving.
Run with the bulls.
DON’T take unnecessary risks at work."
11/22/2019 02:52:00
These youngsters don't mind getting someone else
wadded-up due to their insistence on living out
their Grand Theft Auto delusions in real time...
>Reset<
>Do Over<
>Cheat Code<
...Until it's THEM being cut out of a balled-up squad.
Only then will this shit be very real to them...
And when THEY'RE THE ONES crying "THIS IS BULLSHIT!"
when Finance/Medical Section tells them to go back up on a door knob and twist
when THEY need to see a specialist/have a surgery/procedure done.
...When the phone is constantly ringing and it's some
mouth-breather at the Medical Section harassing them
about how long they plan on being off and how the clock
is ticking on when they're going to report back to work
at full duty status.
Yeah...
Shit gets really real when that starts happening.
It all begins with knowing how/when to get off
the loud-pedal and either feather or fully engage
the pedal to the left.
Delusional! Lightfoot wants to hang us.
More Faster-er & More Furious-er...
Slow the fuck DOWN!
Buncha hard head adrenaline junkies.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I dunno. I feel sorry for these kids. I worked in 011 for a long time many years ago, working bullshit tact and gang teams, playin the dope game in the abandos and Rockwell with my hoody and binos. I just don’t ever remember this many POs involved in crashes in one district. From what I understand, it sounds like Lemmer drove out any copper with any experience. That was a damn shame. Now we have coppers with no experience trained by coppers that had no experience trained by coppers that had no experience...... Like the blind leadin the fuckin blind. I was trained by an old timer Vietnam fuckin veteran FTO that worked his whole career in 011. Later there were old guys on the tact and gang teams. Believe you me, I learned a shit ton every damn shift. Things change. Like I said, I just feel sorry for these kids. They don’t even know how fucking stupid they are. I feel like it’s just a matter of time before some national media newsworthy incident comes outta the hard chargin 011th District. Ugh.
11/22/2019 12:25:00 AM
Well said. I came on in '86, and I believe I learned from the last batch of coppers who really knew how to do the job. Now all of us '86ers have retired, so who the hell is teaching these young coppers? I came on the job knowing I didn't know shit, kept my mouth shut and followed their lead. I absorbed everything from them. I knew this day would come, where nobody knows how to properly do this job. Very unfortunate for all.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I could not care less what any car is wanted for.
Don't chase it.
Too much risk, no reward.
11/22/2019 12:20:00 AM
Amen to that. And throw in a hallelujah.
Who gives a f*ck? Let them shoot each other till they are all dead or incarcerated for 2 days per the dumb ass SA. Let me tell you, young bucks, you are not going to change shit. It was like this 30 years ago, all through my 30 years, and will continue for the next 100 years. All you should be concerned about is that you and your partner go home safe and well at the end of your tour. Stop and think before you turn those lights and sirens on.
Now Wearing 2 Sets of Seat Belts Says:
Speaking of car crashes, bad drivers, etc; Has anybody noticed that there are so many people driving around that just don't seem to be able to comprehend how to drive a motor vehicle? There are more hazardous drivers around Chicagoland than ever it seems. These people might very well be Illegal Aliens. They do the stupidest, hazardous things everywhere, and I have seen it now for quite some time on a daily basis. They do things like cut across 3 lanes of traffic and cut off numerous vehicles because they need to turn or get off a roadway and did not think ahead, so instead they just cut everyone off. Then there are those who just have to race up to a red light and just about slam on the brakes to stop, even though they saw the light was turning red 150 feet back. Are these people stoned, just stupid, playing with their cellphones, or what ? All these Municipalities are looking for revenue, so why not far more police officers making traffic stops for negligent drivers who are overwhelming us on our roadways and causing accidents, injuries, and deaths. ? Where are our Do Nothing Politicians ? Are they afraid they might lose some votes by standing up for safe drivers , and demanding our Law Enforcement Agencies, like the feeble Illinois State Police, actually do their jobs ? Peoples lives are being placed in danger, and they have an obligation to do the right thing, regardless of political concerns.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The 5 injured were all in the tactical car. They were all piled in together because they were supposed to be going to that get behind the vest. Collectively they don't have any common sense. What the fuck are the supervisors telling these guys in 011? Instead of worrying about activity like blue cards and ISRs, supervisors should be more concerned about someone getting killed in a car wreck the way these goofs have been driving and getting into crashes constantly. Eventually the city is going to run out of cars thanks to the 011th district Rangers.
11/22/2019 12:51:00 AM
Lack of experience and common sense are catching up with the Department. This is further typical proof of it.
Anonymous said...
I dunno. I feel sorry for these kids. I worked in 011 for a long time many years ago, working bullshit tact and gang teams, playin the dope game in the abandos and Rockwell with my hoody and binos. I just don’t ever remember this many POs involved in crashes in one district. From what I understand, it sounds like Lemmer drove out any copper with any experience. That was a damn shame. Now we have coppers with no experience trained by coppers that had no experience trained by coppers that had no experience...... Like the blind leadin the fuckin blind. I was trained by an old timer Vietnam fuckin veteran FTO that worked his whole career in 011. Later there were old guys on the tact and gang teams. Believe you me, I learned a shit ton every damn shift. Things change. Like I said, I just feel sorry for these kids. They don’t even know how fucking stupid they are. I feel like it’s just a matter of time before some national media newsworthy incident comes outta the hard chargin 011th District. Ugh.
11/22/2019 12:25:00 AM
Nice post and 100% spot on. It's people in charge like dipshit Lemmer that should be blamed when shit goes wrong because of these busy, violent districts having all these young inexperienced coppers fucking up. Exempts don't care if it gets dangerous in 007, 011, 015, 010, because they just want two year wonders that they can brain wash into doing ISRs and other activity to generate numbers and make them look good at Compstat.
If you can handle yourself in a fight both physically and verbally, and don't believe in the bullshit numbers game, they don't want you in fast districts. Anybody with half a brain that can think for themselves wouldn't want to work in those shit holes in this day and age anyway when you have semi-retarded exempts calling the shots. 025 is another district that the commander caused people with experience to flee and 025 is slow compared to the other above mentioned districts.
Besides a few kool aid drinking suckers, most people join gang and tac just because they don't want to work midnights. Otherwise, what else is the incentive to work on those teams in the hood? No more early ducks and your summer schedule is constantly fucked with and in a state of flux. I guess some people just have a burning desire to wear blue jeans and a retro Count Chocula t-shirt to work.
I've seen too many idiots on this job that think their emergency lights somehow make traffic disappear from the intersections they're flying through.
^There better not be any cars or pedestrians in the intersection when I'm blue lighting. My partner said it's a waste of time clearing these intersections. Everyone sees the blue lights so they better stop. Plus, the offender might be gone by the time we arrive. Always been the real police and you blog readers are weak.
When these shitheads get released with no charges, y'all should drop them off by Crimesha's house. Let her deal with the shitheads
That car rammed a PO just last week.
OT
Well Lightfoot just backed Kim Fox for re-election!
If you young officers continue to believe that all we be just fine in this city,
Start looking at the way we are going to be handled by CCSAO?
I have just over 1 month and cannot understand why these officers are racing into trouble?
Sorry but it is what I see every night?
Its more the Blues Brothers chase scene than Bullitt
Young rookie kids want to drive fast
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11/22/2019 07:07:00 AM
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Dude you sound really fucking cool! I’d love to go camping with you sometime and share a tent.
11/22/2019 11:52:00 AM
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Hey! This isn't the Love Boat.
On the job for 25yrs, when I first came on, some sound advice from a 25yr veteran, "Kid, nothing good comes out of being first car on the scene"!
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while is happening eddie burke is still handing out merit promotions to his clout buddies on the cpd. hey groot i hope you read this post and do something
Well said. I came on in '86, and I believe I learned from the last batch of coppers who really knew how to do the job. Now all of us '86ers have retired, so who the hell is teaching these young coppers? I came on the job knowing I didn't know shit, kept my mouth shut and followed their lead. I absorbed everything from them. I knew this day would come, where nobody knows how to properly do this job. Very unfortunate for all.
Not true. 86-6 June class still has 12 people, Sue Moss & Warren Richards included. Why they stay is beyond me, esp, Sue she ain't going anywhere & as for Richards, son on job& he's always had a company car, straight days & weekends off (now that's sweet), but
as EJ said, "the job takes a toll."Ok so maybe Richards, spent at total of 2/3 years w/o company car & weekends, but not bad for a guy with 34 years on. Anyways these old farts ain't going anywhere. & don't start u should b nice too if u had it so good; it's the blue shirt pushing a beat car for 30years who is "nice"; maybe he'd be nice too if he had it so good. Oh well, politics as usual; the game is the same; time to save our pensions.
OT: does anyone know where the new sergeants were assigned.
Very well put, I spent nearly decade in 011, and never once called it Fillmore!!
11/22/2019 08:32:00 AM
You must be that "it's not called Fillmore" nazi-guy that keeps popping up in the comment section here. I spent over two decades in "Fillmore" and the only ones I hear calling it Fillmore are zone 10 dispatchers, so what's the big deal?
Retired 3 years ago had several squad car crashes over 29 years being the police. I have 3 bulging disc in my neck, headaches and back pain. Didnt think it was going to affect me later in life it did. Slow down be careful life is to short.
The chases are going on throughout the city. It's just that 011 gets the most attention. Young officers are usually going to want to chase. It's a adrenaline rush. Indiana police still chase for practically anything. I'd rather have the officer who wants to chase have my back then some of the dogs who I have worked with over the years.
It's the 11th district, all real ghettos have the same cyclical growing pains.
What the hell is wrong with these 5 year wonders, your NOT superman!
Was there a clown car Involved? Sounds like it.
OT: LL has endorsed Crimesha. Welcome to the democratic crime family of Illinois, Cook, Chicago.
Meet the new worm same as the old worm.
Seal motto, slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Words to live by.
CPS values, grammar school kid caught up with a UUW @ Nathan Hale in Clearing. Welcome to our welcome city!
OT....Chief Avila put in his papers effective 30 Dec. As you said SCC..."The Exodus" has begun.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That car rammed a PO just last week.
11/22/2019 04:31:00 PM
What car rammed a PO last week?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: does anyone know where the new sergeants were assigned.
11/22/2019 05:34:00 PM
Yes, they’re spread out to various districts throughout the city.
I filled in one night in 011 to help them out for a X-mas party. Sweet Jesus what a mistake. The Kiddie cops were flying around at 100 mph heading from foot chase to foot chase over dime bags and ended up with disorderly's, teen hood rats in the E.R., and they all had these little phone radio thingies for their top secret mission capers.
I couldn't imagine a neighborhood less worthy of getting hurt for then that one. I'm surprised they didn't get their guns and wallets stolen after.
The faster you drive through an intersection the less chance you have of being involved in a collision.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I could not care less what any car is wanted for.
Don't chase it.
Too much risk, no reward.
11/22/2019 12:20:00 AM
Amen to that. And throw in a hallelujah.
11/22/2019 01:45:00 PM
And a Bazinga!!!
Anonymous said...
Well said. I came on in '86, and I believe I learned from the last batch of coppers who really knew how to do the job. Now all of us '86ers have retired, so who the hell is teaching these young coppers? I came on the job knowing I didn't know shit, kept my mouth shut and followed their lead. I absorbed everything from them. I knew this day would come, where nobody knows how to properly do this job. Very unfortunate for all.
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With all due respect, your generation and the generation of police you learned from are the reason policing is dead. And in our current world, with cameras to the left, and cameras to the right, your generations would be listing their assets on a regular basis. I respect that you guys did a great job for your time, but you'd be as lost as we are in this brave new world.
Stop fucking chasing.
Dude you sound really fucking cool! I’d love to go camping with you sometime and share a tent.
11/22/2019 11:52:00 AM
I never thought dude, awesome and "like" used every other word would still be around so many years after the Valley Girl days. At least to some degree you can tell how old people are by how they talk. Then we have people like this. "Boo got shot, the translated version". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ExaXF_CpiI
Young ones will chase no matter what people here say and how many vehicles are wrecked. But just think what would happen if the coppers kill innocent people as they hard charge. Law suit and perhaps riots to get some free stuff. I personally liked the chase in the 1990 movie Short Time better than Bullitt. I really don't know why people care at all anymore when you know that Crimea the criminals friend will just let them go, as somehow she is allowed to make her own rules. And the little toad is for her being reelected?
To the old timer who “worked 2 decades in Fillmore and the only people calling it Fillmore are the dispatchers.”
Well obviously you haven’t made it past branch court or 26/Cal lately- the amount of 3 year wonders wearing “Fillmore Ranger” hooded sweatshirts coming and going is astounding. Unless dispatchers started going to court, there is a lot of “Fillmore Pride” beaming from a bunch of suburban kids who have never had a unit designator that has read anything but “011 HARRISON”
Not true. 86-6 June class still has 12 people, Sue Moss & Warren Richards included. Why they stay is beyond me, esp, Sue she ain't going anywhere & as for Richards, son on job& he's always had a company car, straight days & weekends off (now that's sweet), but
as EJ said, "the job takes a toll."Ok so maybe Richards, spent at total of 2/3 years w/o company car & weekends, but not bad for a guy with 34 years on. Anyways these old farts ain't going anywhere. & don't start u should b nice too if u had it so good; it's the blue shirt pushing a beat car for 30years who is "nice"; maybe he'd be nice too if he had it so good. Oh well, politics as usual; the game is the same; time to save our pensions.
Maybe Sue feels that she’ll go when “she’s” ready to go not because some other boss thinks she should. She’s in a great spot where they can’t make her give up her rank because someone with more juice needs it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Very well put, I spent nearly decade in 011, and never once called it Fillmore!!
11/22/2019 08:32:00 AM
You must be that "it's not called Fillmore" nazi-guy that keeps popping up in the comment section here. I spent over two decades in "Fillmore" and the only ones I hear calling it Fillmore are zone 10 dispatchers, so what's the big deal?
11/22/2019 05:56:00 PM
You're both idiots, how about we leave it at that?
Worked in 007 and as a Dic with Warren Richards. Good street cop, good detective. And we didn't have take home cars. He deserves and worked for the spot he's got. Too bad you're jealous of him having a car.And his kids being on the job have exactly what to do with it?
OT: LL has endorsed Crimesha. Welcome to the democratic crime family of Illinois, Cook, Chicago.
Meet the new worm same as the old worm.
11/22/2019 07:42:00 PM
Now the voters have to endorse someone else. Let's make sure she doesn't make it out of the primary.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For shit's sake. I remember being in the academy with Danny Trevino as my home room instructor and he said, 'before you know it, in the blink of an eye, you'll be an old timer.' Take it from the revolver police....we were you once. Nothing and I mean nothing, is more important than your own and your partner's safety. Don't disparage the old-timers. You'll be one faster than you can imagine, and you'll say, 'you know, they were right'. Reign it in. Nobody gives a shit about you especially in this climate of police hate. Except your fellow police. Slow and safe.
11/22/2019 08:34:00 AM
Wow! Danny Trevino. There is a name from the past. My home room instructor was Carolyn Majeski. Boy did 30 go by fast!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Well said. I came on in '86, and I believe I learned from the last batch of coppers who really knew how to do the job. Now all of us '86ers have retired, so who the hell is teaching these young coppers? I came on the job knowing I didn't know shit, kept my mouth shut and followed their lead. I absorbed everything from them. I knew this day would come, where nobody knows how to properly do this job. Very unfortunate for all.
________
With all due respect, your generation and the generation of police you learned from are the reason policing is dead. And in our current world, with cameras to the left, and cameras to the right, your generations would be listing their assets on a regular basis. I respect that you guys did a great job for your time, but you'd be as lost as we are in this brave new world.
11/23/2019 02:05:00 AM
With all due respect back at your and I mean that.
However, I disagree that my "generation' and those that came before is the reason policing is dead. #1, Obama killed policing #2 you cannot reason with shitheads, and now they know its 3, your "generation" has never been in a real fight for your very life with shitheaes (refer to #1 and #2).. And lastly, the respect for the police is dead. Please reconsider your position. You weren't'there to see the changing climate, I was. Shame on you for denigrating all of the police who served before you. You owe us all an apology. You might think you know it all, but trust me, you don't. Please stay safe out there. Go to police week in D.C. and you will have a huge awakening. All the best to you and your fellow officers out there.
I agree that with all th cameras the police are at a disadvantage. You have to think more and those crucial second can cost you you or your partners life. Be careful out there. I'm proud to say have a flagpole with the American flag and the blue line flag. I never forget you are out there.
Well said. I came on in '86, and I believe I learned from the last batch of coppers who really knew how to do the job. Now all of us '86ers have retired, so who the hell is teaching these young coppers? I came on the job knowing I didn't know shit, kept my mouth shut and followed their lead. I absorbed everything from them. I knew this day would come, where nobody knows how to properly do this job. Very unfortunate for all.
________
With all due respect, your generation and the generation of police you learned from are the reason policing is dead. And in our current world, with cameras to the left, and cameras to the right, your generations would be listing their assets on a regular basis. I respect that you guys did a great job for your time, but you'd be as lost as we are in this brave new world.
We’re still on the job, junior. Another problem is the fucking academy. Like the above nugget, that the reason you now dance around an asshole and don’t immediately go hands on is because the police have a history of being over aggressive and racist. I bet you believe all the media coverage of the police, too. You sound like one of those fucking morons that completely bought into “Be the Change.”
And you’re missing the point. The high def cameras are gonna have high def video of some citizen’s limbs flying off at high def speed after being run over by your squad. Video which you will later watch on the high def tv as the news replays the high def video for years which you will again view at your civil and possibly criminal trials!
For what it's worth, regarding the 86 classes, kids who were 20, but turning 21 in the academy, were allowed. Those who were 21/22 year's old would not be 55 yet.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the old timer who “worked 2 decades in Fillmore and the only people calling it Fillmore are the dispatchers.”
Well obviously you haven’t made it past branch court or 26/Cal lately- the amount of 3 year wonders wearing “Fillmore Ranger” hooded sweatshirts coming and going is astounding. Unless dispatchers started going to court, there is a lot of “Fillmore Pride” beaming from a bunch of suburban kids who have never had a unit designator that has read anything but “011 HARRISON”
11/23/2019 04:24:00 AM
So true but thankfully they are paying intoi the pension and keeping some of the old timers afloat, but agreed many are suburban kids first job and they are the "police," who regale the young girls in the bars with their last first arrest!
So let's put this in simple terms: you get your license at 16, you become the police at say 23, that's 7vyears experience driving a car, now you are the police, you can drive lights and siren while you drive fast, now your are off duty and drive like a fool because you are the police. Now you have an IOD accident and cant workbyour part time or any special. How are you going to pay that 600 dollar car payment or that 2,000 mortgage ? Think about not being able to enjoy your family because you are crippled. Fuck these high speed chases and driving crazy, you cant help your fellow coppers if you dont get there
Have any of these blue-light speedsters ever had to work a high speed/serious car crash?
The laws of physics will be obeyed, they are not optional.
Anonymous said...
The chases are going on throughout the city. It's just that 011 gets the most attention. Young officers are usually going to want to chase. It's a adrenaline rush. Indiana police still chase for practically anything. I'd rather have the officer who wants to chase have my back then some of the dogs who I have worked with over the years.
11/22/2019 06:57:00 PM
They get the most attention because they have the most car wrecks you goof!!!
Hopefully they learn a lesson. But then again you can’t fix stupid.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That car rammed a PO just last week.
11/22/2019 04:31:00 PM
What car rammed a PO last week?
The same vehicle being chased purposely rammed a squad car injuring the PO near OHare last week.
"...Yes. They are assigned to various districts throughout the city..."
Excellent reply.
Camping? I'm in! I love to pitch a tent!
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Best Cop Chase Movie ever?
Freebie and The Bean.
To the old timer who “worked 2 decades in Fillmore and the only people calling it Fillmore are the dispatchers.”
Well obviously you haven’t made it past branch court or 26/Cal lately- the amount of 3 year wonders wearing “Fillmore Ranger” hooded sweatshirts coming and going is astounding. Unless dispatchers started going to court, there is a lot of “Fillmore Pride” beaming from a bunch of suburban kids who have never had a unit designator that has read anything but “011 HARRISON”
11/23/2019 04:24:00 AM
You are right, haven't been to 26/Cal lately, so I haven't seen those hoodies. But what is troubling is you obviously didn't get the memo that doing policework is dead, and all smart p.o.'s are in the prevent defense right now. Stay safe.
Remember Pinzance and his pirate class? "The Pirates of Pinzance"? And Frank?
An entire generation of Instructor who went to the academy just to drink and get some side action away from the spouses eyes. LOL now that was "preparation for the job".
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
For shit's sake. I remember being in the academy with Danny Trevino as my home room instructor and he said, 'before you know it, in the blink of an eye, you'll be an old timer.' Take it from the revolver police....we were you once. Nothing and I mean nothing, is more important than your own and your partner's safety. Don't disparage the old-timers. You'll be one faster than you can imagine, and you'll say, 'you know, they were right'. Reign it in. Nobody gives a shit about you especially in this climate of police hate. Except your fellow police. Slow and safe.
11/22/2019 08:34:00 AM
Wow! Danny Trevino. There is a name from the past. My home room instructor was Carolyn Majeski. Boy did 30 go by fast!
11/23/2019 09:18:00 AM"""""""""
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Best Cop Chase Movie ever?
Freebie and The Bean.
11/24/2019 06:35:00 AM
Just watched it again yesterday. That movie is criminally underrated. Best cop movie ever!
So let's put this in simple terms: you get your license at 16, you become the police at say 23, that's 7vyears experience driving a car, now you are the police, you can drive lights and siren while you drive fast, now your are off duty and drive like a fool because you are the police. Now you have an IOD accident and cant workbyour part time or any special. How are you going to pay that 600 dollar car payment or that 2,000 mortgage ? Think about not being able to enjoy your family because you are crippled. Fuck these high speed chases and driving crazy, you cant help your fellow coppers if you dont get there
Very good points.
I loved Freebie and the Bean. It was the most politically incorrect, with Slapshot being a close second.
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