"Do Not Call Police" List
Mayor Lightfoot, you really ought to look at this as a cost-saving proposition:
- Last week a unit responded to a H-and-M store in the South Loop when an employee, who saw a regular [shoplifting] crew in the store again stealing anything they could, called 911. Once on scene the officers observed the manager scolding the employee for calling the police as they were told by the store’s corporate headquarters that “H-and-M will no longer prosecute shoplifters because of prior incidents in the stores”.
Asked to repeat it, the store manager supposedly once again stated that H-and-M will not prosecute for retail theft and it’s documented on the officers BWCs. Any bets on how long H-and-M stays in business?
So if the police are called, what are they supposed to do? Escort the thieves from the building? Block traffic so they can get away cleaner? No complainant, no crime, even in the presence of officers.
We already know that even if H-and-M signed a complaint (which they have stated they won't) Crimesha won't prosecute. So why respond at all? Responding opens up officers and taxpayers to ungodly payouts due to accidents, excessive force allegations, property damage claims.
If OEMC had a list of addresses and businesses that will not prosecute, then it's better if CPD doesn't respond at all. And this is the good part - announce it loudly and publicly at a press conference. Taxpayers like to know when politicians are saving them money - in fact, a lot of them like to vote for politicians who save them money. You can use it to fund all sorts of things, like pensions.
We already know that even if H-and-M signed a complaint (which they have stated they won't) Crimesha won't prosecute. So why respond at all? Responding opens up officers and taxpayers to ungodly payouts due to accidents, excessive force allegations, property damage claims.
If OEMC had a list of addresses and businesses that will not prosecute, then it's better if CPD doesn't respond at all. And this is the good part - announce it loudly and publicly at a press conference. Taxpayers like to know when politicians are saving them money - in fact, a lot of them like to vote for politicians who save them money. You can use it to fund all sorts of things, like pensions.
Labels: crime, we got nothing
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
53 Comments:
I say take it a step further and add the anti-police types who don’t like us, don’t want us, and don’t need us. Handle it yourselves.
Wait where is this place that I can do free christmas shopping located?
If you can't charge these thieves as shoplifters, then treat them as looters and charge them with MOB ACTION. If you're States as attorney can't seem to do her job,find a different way to do yours. Stay safe out there.
I'm a shoppin! Don't even need my wallet! Let's Go!
It's Great to be Retired from 018,I don't have to deal with the Roving Shithead's.I do Miss the Hotel Food.
The H&M Store in the South Loop is located at 150 W. Roosevelt Road. There is another H&M at 840 N. Michigan Ave. For other Chicagoland locations, click on above link. Be sure to bring plenty of jumbo empty bags with the U-Haul truck.
Merry Christmas!
I agree. Walgreens does the same bullshit to us. The security or employee calls and when you arrive, oh well we wont sign complaints, we just want a report...are you fucking kidding me? Wasting our time on nothing while there are other people who really need our services go waiting. Wait till the offender leaves and call 311 and get your stupid report. Next job!
Could I get the list of the company's not prosecuting, I still haven't started my Christmas shopping yet?
Going back many years and when Cabrini was still the projects the Gap opened a store on Kingsbury.
Well they called about a shoplifting and we all go tearing ass over there, locate, chase, apprehend the offender and recover proceeds after encountering slight resistance. We return to the store where the greatful management said, "thanks so much but we just want the merchandise back and have no interest in signing complaints." This all happened back when we were still the police and had a normal States Attorney but knowing your job and protecting yourself is on you. Ended up inventorying the proceeds and informed them to sign complaint. Proceeds were returned after the court appearance. NEVER responded to another shoplifting at that location unless assigned as paper car and even then it was a slow roll to give them an RD#. Why get there, fight with some idiot, have the business decline to prosecute and you are left holding a bag of shit sandwiches?
When they do go out of business, no one will address the "Why?" .
Maybe the thieves should create a list and post it online. Call it "free stuff in the Loop."
Definitely can agree with the statement here how about that list if they want their stores to be stolen from why bother then we should also have the hardest working paper in America and the other one list the stores where we can all go in shoplift at it would be great this way it would be on equal ground. I cannot stand going into a store realizing that I’m a have to pay for something it’s ridiculous we should just be able to take it and walk out with it and not have any kind of criminal prosecution the Democrats run the city. The Democrats want lawlessness obviously by the way they bastardized the hard-working police officers let it happen. Give them what they want.
The shitcago value honor students will have a great time wilding on the gold Coast Michigan Ave stores in 018.
To 1223am, or not.
So once again we are being used for what? Insurance re-imbursement? Heard they stole from two high-end stores
something like 15 to 28 THOUSAND DOLLARS of merchandise........which makes anything we hard-working taxpaying
morons buy cost more?
I guess I just don’t know what the SJW end game is here......let criminals do whatever they want, wherever they want,
and we law abiding fools just sit back and do nothing?
How the puck did we get to this point? What is happening to this country? Is there no common sense or civility left?
Thought this was the Christmas season guess not what do you think Charlie;
1 Dead, at Least 15 Wounded in Shootings Across Chicago
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/1-dead-at-least-15-wounded-in-shootings-across-chicago/2189483/
I know I know you’ll say only one person is dead but you have 15 people whose lives have been changed forever that’s not counting all the stabbings and beatings and carjackings Charlie your silence says it all back to Los Angeles time to schedule your plane ticket take that basket of cash you might as well go see you later back to another democratic controlled shit hole.
Mob action to be prosecuted by whom? How much time to get I-bond? What’s the point?
If they don't sign the complaint, there was no crime. If there was no crime, they can't get the items back. If it was their merchandise, how did it leave the store? Sales, gift or theft?
Never stole anything in my life, go to a Walgreens to get something and here is a person filling their pockets and coat with goodies, left the store and put their loot in the car, turned around and walked back in the store. The person looks at me and I told him , have a Merry Christmas!
If you don't punish bad behavior you get more bad behavior.
Keep this up and there will be enough inventory shrink to close the store.
Add Starbucks to that list
many of these corporate stores, that is stores that can absorb losses, do not want to dealwith any potential lawsuits that might stem from an arrest. They would rather just take the loss of inventory. Nothing new, but it seems to be spreading these days and a greater problem.
Just remember, were not bouncers, you want somebody gone, then sign complaints and I'll go hands on, no complaints then its not my problem.
What’s the problem with this? This Blog is telling cops to be feral. The company lawyers are saying the same thing. Why risk participating in the ghetto lottery? Even if they sign the complaint nothing is going to happen.
Why are some cops taking this as a personal insult? If I see my stolen car driving down the street and I report it to the cops will they chase it? No, for the same reasons this store won’t sign a complaint.
Take a short report and be on your way. This company has stores all over the world and will close this one if doesn’t make money.
If you're States as attorney can't seem to do her job,find a different way to do yours. Stay safe out there.
12/16/2019 12:23:00 AM
Two contradictory statements right there. You can't "stay safe" if you start to get creative. That's a lawsuit waiting to happen. Do the job they want you do to and that's all.
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001& 018 have turned into absolute dumps. I can only speak for 001, but it used to be a pretty great place to work. Current day, it is almost constantly in a backlog. Obviously the place is not 011 or 007 type busy, but it is annoying busy. Problem is, 001 is not staffed the way a busy district is. I think people would be genuinely shocked at how thinly staffed a typical roll call is on some days covering downtown. Anyway, the Holding the Offender calls have gotten out of control. I think it’s mostly due to the expansion of retail and residential in the South Loop. That mall area where the H&M is at is targeted almost daily. Add in the strip off of Canal street with Burlington Coat Factory, TJ Max, Nordstrom Rack, Whole Foods, etc. Typically I don’t mind processing retail thefts, but what’s annoying is these loss prevention people are enthusiastically grabbing just about everyone. I think Macy’s should throw us a holiday party every year. They want everyone charged & processed, and then when it’s Court Time, they are nowhere to be found. Of course we all know who WILL be in trouble if we don’t show up. Get past retail, then there’s endless traffic crashes. Generously sprinkle in the roving packs of youth committing robberies and batteries. Armed car jackings. Burglaries. Top that all off with all of the homeless & mentals spread out by PGM. Almost forgot all the hypes from lower wacker and from under the highway. Where was I again? Oh yeah, Downtown is a total dump. Take your family there at your own risk.
If not charged how are they going to get to the magic number 10? Stupid question they won't get to ten. My bad next I promise to think before I blog.
See they all want you to be Fetal, just accommodate their wishes. Do nothing and collect check. Your welcome.
Likely H&M corporate feels their financial cost liability for "injury/emotional harm" pay-outs to pepper-sprayed and/or beaten employees is far greater than value of cheap clothes stolen by these shoplifters. It's a simple math calculation. Shoplifters win; law-abiding citizens lose, again.
Also do not accomodate these stores by removing people. There are stores that will hold juveniles for hours then call the police and then not prosecute and expect you to take them. Once you take custody of a juvenile and Bring them to the station they are in secure custody for nothing - they are not under arrest - so don’t do it! - lawsuits waiting to happen. Also if an adult, and not arrested don’t remove them from the store it’s private property unless they sign complaints. Don’t open yourself up to liability.
So H and M is run by the Chicago Public Library now?
STEAL ALL YOU WANT! We will just restock...
Since these businesses do go after thieves... They make up the losses by overcharging those who do pay.
Your formally $20 shirt for the kiddos just became $22.50 or higher since the grab free shit crew snatched a bunch of those at $20 (paying $0) and the store did not seek to correct matters.
Fucked up...
The crimes are against the people of the state of Illinois. Subpoena the witnesses and hold them in contempt for failing to show.
The GrootMoney Savings in in the Suspension not the service call screening.
Theft in progress or was it Suspicious person call?
Did OEM give the assignment a low priority ?
Corrupt OEM was suppose to have all location geo-code data included in call with history beforehand when they finally upgraded to digital equipment way after the govmint mandate 20 years ago.
Retail chain stores have loss budgets and it kind of makes sense to not interfere with violent feral that rampage through their wares, notions and sundries. Even if they feral boosters were still on scene, a misd CTTP complaint for retail theft wouldn’t even be signed.
Stop the hard charge to these District Activity quota jobs and when shit hits the fan it’s YOUR ass that gets nailed.
Welcoming, accepting and tolerant HM isn’t interested and gives shoplifters easy in - easy out access.
HM policy is probably due to many previous corporate liability payouts, of which is always likely in the overpopulated metropolitan feral youth roaming downtown. A compliant old white lady might be okay, but not spirited feral youth.
HM is doing what the corporation wants and we should know better to get overly involved.
Go play boogie man and show up. Some individual victims may want some solace of police service for even the slightest of criminal activity, hence we all say “call anytime if they return”, what else can you do besides show no concern (a COPA chargeable transgression).
We never know what the feral urban predators are capable of. Many security guards were injured, stabbed shot at during the escape.
I recall a domestic shooting a few years ago in Water Tower that killed an employee as well.
The violent prone urban feral run into these stores for cover when they try get away from their adversaries.
It’s only a matter of time when the worse of tragedies will occur due to allowing the feral to takeover businesses.
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Duly noted.
No penalties for shoplifting, public school babysitters who make six digits a year and get public housing, no prosecution for drugs, gang banging, burglary, rape, or assaulting cops.
Chicago is a paradise, for some people.
Set all shoplifters free !!!!
Nothing new, this has been going on at H and M for a few years now.
Security guard calls in an armed robbery, police arrive and Manager says "It's all been blown out of proportion, there's no gun" but the clerk and guard both observed a gun.
Is it possible the law abiding Citizens tax payer dollars are reimbursing the grocery stores to the high end designer stores for the damage and theft by these criminal rodents? I know mark up is high but so is the rent.How else could they stay in business? What benefits are achieved with these lawless policies that are causing the slaughter and murder of children in Our homes and on Our streets? At the end of the day what does the States attorney reflect on and tell herself dam this is what I achieved today,dam I feel good?Lifes are being wrecked,corpse count going up.Not good for anyone.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Thought this was the Christmas season guess not what do you think Charlie;
1 Dead, at Least 15 Wounded in Shootings Across Chicago
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/1-dead-at-least-15-wounded-in-shootings-across-chicago/2189483/
I know I know you’ll say only one person is dead but you have 15 people whose lives have been changed forever that’s not counting all the stabbings and beatings and carjackings Charlie your silence says it all back to Los Angeles time to schedule your plane ticket take that basket of cash you might as well go see you later back to another democratic controlled shit hole.
12/16/2019 07:55:00 AM
Don't ever forget the city also "kills," crime and with our detectives clearing maybe 9% of cases it's not a surprise if we had more dead. That complete rank needs to be adjusted, in uniform marked vehicles so much goes on,leaving early on the clock, driving out to the burbs to shop,and how about "fast Eddie," racing in Indiana troopers caught his ass and nothing will happen to him, reckless and connected your free to do anything you want. Er sorry except for an oral agreement like Mr.Johnson who used his small Johnson to get that girl promotions!
If the SJW agenda keeps up, we will see even more brick and mortar stores leave the city. Weren't the south side politicos all up in arms over Target pulling out? Whether they'll admit it or not - shrinkage and theft of inventory along well the the added cost of security were weighing on the profitability of those stores.
In the ebb and flow of cities, I don't see things playing out well if lawlessness is allowed to continue. If crime is allowed to grow unchecked, eventually Chad and Kiersten Taxpayer are going to leave for the safe suburbs - just like my grandparents did ("White Flight").
I would love to see the SJW vision run to completion. Because it looks just as bad as running a similar vision of unchecked corporate greed or a corrupt dictatorship to it's natural conclusion. That dystopian future we see in so many sci-fi movies? There are more than a few ways to make that a reality.
Second City Cop ,You provide a great blog! Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
Personally put starbucks on the do not respond list, they don't like the police so why does anyone even bother going into that shitshow of putrid morons?
I was in the lovely area of michigan and Congress and started laughing that the bike unit was riding six deep.
Might want to spread out a bit boys if you actually are patrolling.
Those scary piss bums and teens with pepper spray are scary!
I did dig the blinking lights on the bikes.
Signed aging hairgel...
My neighbor is a manager for a Walgreens downtown. He’s beside himself that they can no longer even stop these assholes. It’s an order that comes from corporate. My guess is the average honest person pays for this in hidden price hikes, but how long can that go on? Sooner or later it’s got to make staying in business downtown completely non-sensical. As a kid, I remember my mom taking me to the office downtown when she had to work a Saturday. I’d sit with her and then afterwards, we’d browse Water Tower & Marshall Fields. You couldn’t pay me to go down there to do any shopping or window shopping now. I avoid it like the plague. The only way politicians will see the light is when tourist dollars dry up & stores start shuttering.
If someone calls 911 to report a crime it should be standard practice for the call taker to ask if they will sign complaints if needed. This information will help me decide how I will handle the job as I arrive. If they are not willing to sign complaints it might help me avoid needless use of force escalation. After all, the department has said that our top priority is the sanctity of human life.
Anonymous said...
What’s the problem with this? This Blog is telling cops to be feral. ...
Take a short report and be on your way. This company has stores all over the world and will close this one if doesn’t make money.
12/16/2019 08:50:00 AM
This blog is the greatest. Even the typos make my day!!! It passed spellcheck and wasn't proofread. [and this was, past tense of proofread is proofread, just pronounced differently.
001& 018 have turned into absolute dumps. I can only speak for 001, but it used to be a pretty great place to work. Current day, it is almost constantly in a backlog. Obviously the place is not 011 or 007 type busy, but it is annoying busy. Problem is, 001 is not staffed the way a busy district is. I think people would be genuinely shocked at how thinly staffed a typical roll call is on some days covering downtown. Anyway, the Holding the Offender calls have gotten out of control. I think it’s mostly due to the expansion of retail and residential in the South Loop. That mall area where the H&M is at is targeted almost daily. Add in the strip off of Canal street with Burlington Coat Factory, TJ Max, Nordstrom Rack, Whole Foods, etc. Typically I don’t mind processing retail thefts, but what’s annoying is these loss prevention people are enthusiastically grabbing just about everyone. I think Macy’s should throw us a holiday party every year. They want everyone charged & processed, and then when it’s Court Time, they are nowhere to be found. Of course we all know who WILL be in trouble if we don’t show up. Get past retail, then there’s endless traffic crashes. Generously sprinkle in the roving packs of youth committing robberies and batteries. Armed car jackings. Burglaries. Top that all off with all of the homeless & mentals spread out by PGM. Almost forgot all the hypes from lower wacker and from under the highway. Where was I again? Oh yeah, Downtown is a total dump. Take your family there at your own risk.
I don’t know how busy 007 is but when I became an FTO and was reassigned to 001 from 010. 3rd watch in 001 was way busier than 010 3rd watch. HOLDOFF out of roll call and daily. The backlog, the calls, it was none stop. Now I’m a detective and life is finally good. Leave 001 to the youngsters.
I have a suggestion. Since we can't strike lets all not give a fuck.
In fact lets set aside one day a week where we don't give a fuck at all, and then all the others days we can mostly not give a fuck.
Look at all the shit one has to eat during a typical career? Jagoff politicians? Jagoff Boss's "mostly merit"? Test cheating? Hug a Thug practices? A jagoff Leftist Prosecutor? Corruption up the ass? Pussies on the job?
If someone calls 911 to report a crime it should be standard practice for the call taker to ask if they will sign complaints if needed. This information will help me decide how I will handle the job as I arrive. If they are not willing to sign complaints it might help me avoid needless use of force escalation. After all, the department has said that our top priority is the sanctity of human life.
You're on the right track but need to go a bit farther.
The signing of a criminal complaint is an affidavit that the property was taken without your consent. By refusing to sign that complaint the legal inference is that you consent to the other person possessing the property. The property is a gift.
You could probably get away with a 19-Paul. But it you want to avoid a hassle with the complainant and your supervisor, make the case report. The CMO Detective will kill the report.
I haven't had to buy my kid clothes for over a year now. He and his friends figured if everyone else is shoplifting with no consequence, why shouldn't he and his friends do the same. He picked up a lot of nice stuff courtesy of Kim Foxx and the new way of thinking. Best part; didn't cost me a dime!
Crystal ball time--
30 years ago Detroit had the same policy Chicago is approaching now, prosecutors wouldn't charge, or only give CIs for pleas, and the chains stopped grabbing thieves because they would get bottom feeder tort lawyers to sue.
So Detroit had no major grocery stores left. They did have a few weird small groceries called "The Glory" where Chaldeans would partner with pastors and beat the heck out of shoplifters, but they were pricey with poor meat and produce. So there were lots of 'party stores'-liquor stores with very limited food. Plus the 'you buy we fry' so they could use the welfare cards.
In order to get two major stores into the city, the mayor had to sign a deal where there are two city cops on duty at each store, one in a car in the lot, one as the door greeter.
So you have that to look forward to...
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