Another Tool Gone
And by tool, we don't mean the current crop of exempts. We mean an actual tool that worked occasionally in predicting crime:
- After 10 years, the Chicago Police Department has decommissioned an enormous database that, ostensibly, used analytics in an effort to predict which people are most likely to be involved in shootings — as either the shooter or the victim.
The “Strategic Subject List” was quietly put out to pasture in November, according to the Office of the Inspector General, which had raised several issues regarding the program’s efficacy.
CPD used the list to identify which prior arrestees would be most likely to carry out shootings, or be victims of shootings — referred to as being a “party to violence.”
The list also was used to target gang members and their associates through information gathering, analysis and social network mapping, according to the office of Inspector General Joe Ferguson.
Not to mention (as we did years ago) that police don't usually single out people/folks for crimes they "might" commit at a later date. Sure, the database pointed out people with a propensity for committing violent crime or being subjected to violent crimes. But any decent street copper with a knowledge of their Beat/District/Area could tell you the exact same thing....and for a lot less money.
But any database that points out certain uncomfortable facts is unwelcome in the new "progressive" Chicago.
But any database that points out certain uncomfortable facts is unwelcome in the new "progressive" Chicago.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
85 Comments:
We can give it flack, but that damn 500 SSL score really was magic on the west side. They always got shot or caught with a gun that month after reaching the high scores list.
Who gives a fuck? Let the ghetto rats kill each other. Less democratic votes.
Weird
exempts can have secret (confidential) investigation at IAD I still dont see the cheating scandal CR# anywhere in the public realm.
BUT when everybody else is gathering info to keep this City safe its open to the public and picked apart with weak arguments.
Hey why not get rid of contact cards too isnt that data?
RAp sheet with no convictions lets toss them.
Case report that have passed the Statute of limitation just delete them.
Why keep DNA ?
And here's a tool that, well, " Foxx said. "In the meantime people have to look at the totality of my efforts in this office, taking this office from the false confession capital of the United States to leading on wrongful conviction, exonerations, the work on cannabis reform, [and] the work on the gun crime strategies unit."
Are supposed attorneys required to speak/write in a recognizable English dialect; content not withstanding?
Emetic here: https://abc7chicago.com/politics/foxx-expresses-regrets-hopes-in-one-on-one-interview-ahead-of-upcoming-election-/5883248/
This is a non issue. I can see the concern with them taking away resources, but really, with this, who cares? Especially in today's climate. Didn't we make fun of this or something similar on the blog calling the related/similar unit "the crystal ball unit"? You can't accurately and consistently and effectively predict shit.
Been gone
Not an issue if you’re not out there trying to save the savages from themselves.
The only thing you should be about saving is your own hide. It’s called self preservation. As in nothing proactive.
Let the Ghetto Self Cleaning Oven do it’s thang - your sanity, financial well-being, reputation and freedom all depend on it.
Let it burn.
I am surprise they ain’t come up with a system to track officers and shuttle the for firing— oh yeah they just come up with multiple clown agencies to fire them
Why are we paying cops time and a half to sit at empty parks - hey jagoffs it’s our tax dollars being wasted!
So how many cops did this add to the street? None I bet, the hidden are still hidden just somewhere else.
Wow.
So if dude is a co-arrestee/associate of someone who gets shot or killed, and perhaps dude himself has been shot before, and dude has 2 weapons-related arrests, we are wrong for saying “gee, this guy might be involved in a future act of violence as a victim or offender”??
GTFOH
I suppose perhaps we are to assume at all times, people turn their lives around.
Every 10 minutes, they leave the past behind.
I’m so sick of the excuses for this culture of death and violence that pervades some areas of this city.
Lift the fucking residency so the good people don’t have to be bothered with this shithole city’s way of life unless we’re on the clock.
Do you know the same progressives that are running the department where the same fools who supported this. So part of the change is to get rid of something and claimed credit while blaming Lewin and Johnson. It was the idiots from the University of Chicago and trust me they are idiots.
Chicago Social Credit score!
How well do you embrace Chicago values?
A desperate attempt to shave a few murders off their totals every year.
Only a matter of time before they’d start using this against us.
Good riddance.
But what about the TOOLs that ordered us to use the crap.
And go out and ring doorbells telling these idiots were watching them.......
Barb West........
Its such a shame that The City will waste tax payers dollars to have P.O.'s sit in an area and hope that a gangbanger doesn't get shot all so that the numbers don't go up. I went to a CAPS meeting in 016 for Beats 1931-1932 and Alderman Sposato was there and a citizen again asked why isn't 16 getting more police officers? Well, Sposato goes on to say, and I quote " There are NOT enough 911 calls to support more manpower". Really Sposato? Take a look at the shit going on in 16 and you might think otherwise. You keep up this attitude and YOU might be looking for a new job!
any Asians on that list? No? SO it was RACIST too!!!
Probably because it was subject to FOIA requests and no one wanted it out.
Oh well.
Your last sentence says all there is to say. Hard truth that no one wants to talk about.
I wonder what the SSL score was for the Daddy of the 1 year old who caught 1 in the head yesterday?
Does anyone realize that it was only a tool for those who have never been in squad car to use to pretend like they are doing something to justify their inside spot.
Who needs a Strategic Subject List? Years ago when the School Patrol Unit was still going we used to get the Detective Division 24 hour Reports. All of the shootings which occurred the previous day or weekend would be included. When a student was the victim it almost became a running joke to see if the assigned officers could guess who the victim was.
You'd be surprised how often they would be right. But what was even more surprising was that who they thought might be the victim turned out to be the wanted offender. So you see, you could have a school with a thousand students and when a shooting occurred on a weekend the police assigned to the school very often were able to identify both the victim and offender with no further information other than something happened.
So long as heavy weed users take to the streets of Chicago... All will sort itself out or just get way, way worse.
Heavy marijuana users drive worse, even when not intoxicated
https://www.healio.com/primary-care/addiction/news/online/%7B49c236e9-7235-471e-93d2-17f06c42a920%7D/heavy-marijuana-users-drive-worse-even-when-not-intoxicated
Speaking of tools being gone does anyone know what happen with the WOD. Did he get demoted or did he retire? I keep hearing he retired but if he retired now he would get no insurance. What kind of game did the city play? And I guess now 1st deputy Lanister can stop trying to make the Wod a deputy chief.
How long before the Department pays for a database tool designed to predict which officers will be nasty and not gentle or respect the hurt feelings of the Administration's voter base?
Oh! Thought this would be about the "crystal ball" unit.
Easily one of the best terms ever produced on this blog.
I still chuckle at it today.
And in other news:
Elizabeth Warren endorses Kim Foxx in Cook County State's Attorney Race…
https://chicago.suntimes.com/elections/2020/1/28/21110883/elizabeth-warren-kim-foxx-states-attorney-race-endorsement
Well it seems like everyone is avoiding the Lt test cheating scandal which is the elephant in the room.
What’s wrong with digging up the dirt like you did the merit scandal
Yes the Department is all about who you’re sleeping with and who’s Ass you’re kissing
Bosses making decisions based off of the pillow talking bitches they sleeping with and back door deals for everyone getting their people in positions. Mr Beck start looking at how some of these people have had 2 & 3 merit bumps
Couldn’t pass a promotion test if they tried. Promotion should be based on career achievement not shit that was given to you or that you paid for.
Maybe the keesing bandit should kess the offender in the scenario! Sign and leave.
dA reAl poLicE
Lift the fucking residency so the good people don’t have to be bothered with this shithole city’s way of life unless we’re on the clock.
1/28/2020 04:28:00 AM
You might as well forget about this nonsense of residency being lifted. Besides, if it was, who the hell do you think is going to pay taxes to keep it all afloat?
Got to have some skin in the game.
This... "Not an issue if you’re not out there trying to save the savages from themselves.
The only thing you should be about saving is your own hide. It’s called self preservation. As in nothing proactive.
Let the Ghetto Self Cleaning Oven do it’s thang - your sanity, financial well-being, reputation and freedom all depend on it."
Remember to put the SSL score on the narrative. I never checked, it was bound to fail like compstat. All illegal.
This is great news, since the city is in the database and record deleting mood, how about getting rid of the fucking CR files that should have been destroyed years ago?
Just making it easier to be fetal.
It's a creation by nerds, to keep nerds employed
interpreting the psychobabble. It's a back-of-the-bar
napkin calculation: what if we could PREDICT crime?
It'll wind up in a police museum.
Here's what they can use to replace it. It's called "common sense"
Since the recidivism rate is so incredibly high, we can just assume that after every I-Bond the Perp is going to go back and do the same thing, or worse.
Besides...Didn't Jody Weiss tell them "To Knock it Off?" lol!
Trust your gut. You knew 10 years ago it was bullshit.
But somebody had the clout and the money to ram it
through. So what will become of the dinks? Oh, well
they will be assigned to the next whiz-bang contraption
that will revolutionize policing because they're the only
ones capable of understanding the intricate nature of
the beast and coaxing the best possible performance
out of the FUBAR mess of computer chips, wires,
displays, and screens. Stay away, beat cop. It's way
over your head. Cross training? We don't do that here.
This work is best left to experts.
Color us: Tribal Knowledge.
Because once upon a time something happened at an empty park and an alderman or the community blamed the police for not being in the park. So, knee jerk reaction to put police cars in the parks and not move.
Come on dies anyone really care one iota about them killing each other. Other than job security who gives a shit.
Rumor has it there's an artisinal blog floating around:
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It chronicles the adventures of the on again/off again
Mall Cop Chief hired from the Retired Police Chiefs
Association of America (RPCAA). It's chock full of
advice on grooming, salary negotiations, working
conditions, 401(k) match negotiations, IRA rollovers,
work/life balance, and transition into true retirement.
Contributors include some of the finest retired Chiefs
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as travel, leisure, and nutrition. Life After Chief is our
main theme as we coach you to milk past experience
into a current income flow, pad your retirement benefits
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Lift the fucking residency so the good people don’t have to be bothered with this shithole city’s way of life unless we’re on the clock?
Never will happen
Unless you leave the state the HELL Continues
The List may not have been always updated and reviewed as needed but that most likely was do incompetent unit supervisors lacking any approved procedures and lack of supervisory management skills most likely due to clout or merit. The List was left open to scrutiny and allowed to be used as a political tool by the dumb slugs managing the system. It was they that allowed the List to be used as a target for the IG and other anti police interests. Blame the drunken and disgraced former Superintendent Ed Johnson (no we didn't forget about your ugly actions Ed) and his Staff of womanizing Mutts. No one pushed hard to save the system by correcting inaccuracies and/or upgrading the system. No management wouldn't want to that. Better to trash the entire system. Why wouldn't you want to upgrade a potential useful system that would benefit all concerned.
So the List is thrown out. Too bad we lost the tool. Too bad for the Community. As they will pay for the loss of the List with more of their blood and family treasure. Dude, Inc. will continue to ply their murderous rampage on their own Community members. The Communities blood will once again be on the Imps hands. She champions these types of reforms at the cost to her Community.
Chicago Values at work again.
They can replace it by hiring Doris Ely the Gypsy Fortune Teller. She's probably more accurate. LOL
Was just stupid from the beginning for the CPD to even start the program. An idiot would have known it was doomed to fail
That's too bad. I was trying to find a way to use that list to buy life insurance policies on those with an over 500 score. Take out a million $$$ level term 10 year policy on a 19 year old. Wouldn't cost that much. Shiiit, got a 1/2 mil on my 50yr old ass, less than a buck a day. WAY better odds than playing the lottery.
Get a few friends in on it, 100k each. <\sarcasm>
Certain commanders probably got tired of doing 'custom notifications'
Applying the same logic that brought down the SSL list should also eliminate the quantitative evaluation pre-trial services conducts of arrestees, which contributes to decisions about their bond and release conditions
Did the guy who shot his kid in the head in 019 have a SSL number. I didn't think people were allowed to have guns in public housing.
to the blue jean, backwards cap wearing hard chargers...
this will come as a shock but because of your hard work the vicious cycle continues.
the only real change will come is when the system destroys itself.
oh, and one more thing...your pension money has already been spent...on social programs for the shitheads and illegals
have a nice...
A database of potential victims and potential offenders must be destroyed.
While a database of 50 years of allegations against police officers, which should have been destroyed,
gets turned over to lawyers for an exploratory search for lawsuits against the city and police officers.
OT:
RIP LT. James E. O'Connor 50 years ago today @ 11048 S. Michigan (Robbery).
he gone -At the time a powerful state senator, Martin Sandoval said in a 2018 restaurant meeting in Burr Ridge that he was going “balls to the wall for anything you ask me” for a red-light camera company in return for thousands of dollars in bribes but complained others were getting a sweet deal in “consulting fees” from the business.
“So why don’t I get that offer,” Sandoval griped to an investor in the company who was secretly working for the feds.
In all, Sandoval took about $250,000 in bribes from the red-light camera company, identified in court as SafeSpeed, and others, according to a plea agreement he entered into Tuesday in federal court in Chicago.
well know its time for burke to go down he was behind this red light crap from the get go.
I came here looking for news on Wodnicki. Guess I missed by a bit.
...see this is how it works. They don’t want police to have data because that’s an “invasion of privacy” & implicitly racist, but then politicians want more police service to high crime areas pulling from other areas of the city where crime is down (until of course you’ve exposed those areas to more crime by giving them less police service), but then they don’t actually want you to catch someone that’s just committed a crime because likely you are catching someone that’s of color and that’s racist (doesn’t matter if the victim told you the crime was committed by a person of color &/or that the victim is just as likely to be a person of color). Then they want access to everything & anything the police department has and for us to keep it forever for whenever they decide on a whim it’s of use for them to prove that all the problems are caused by either not enough policing or too much policing. Got it!
HEY
i Havent heard a peep about interview for the new superintendent?
Gotta be careful with promotions in this town you may be asked to be given a facial as a quiz.
Not very transparent who are the people on the police board and how skilled are they? Were any of them ever the police? (doubt it)
Know your customers. Think of it as Amazon for bad guys.
Ethics training? Was at roll call yesterday Lt tells everyone to do ethics if it hasn't been completed. I go check my training and notice that there are 2 types of ethics modules aldermen and everyone else. I also noticed that the aldermen don't have a module for 2019. We're they exempt from the ethics training? Interesting if they were, not that they would abide by ethics guidelines and rules.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2020/1/28/21112604/cook-county-flag-contest-design-high-school-britton could be fun. maybe a pickpockets taxpayer.
Off Topic: when are these changes that everyone keeps talking about going to take place. A lot of rumors out there. Beck we would not be mad if you took Gushes, Carter, Robinson, Staples, Waller, Sam, Calderon, Lemmer, Holt and told them their time is up move on.
City cannot afford to lift residency. Way to many taxpayers would leave. Your stuck unless your do nothing to rock the boat FOP takes it to court. But they are being bribed not to only possible reason it has not been a suit. Cash or soft landings spots, or both. How about a petition to force them to address the issue. Then you will see them wiggling like a worm on a hook. Hell a couple hundred of you could get together pool a couple hundred each and have a class action suit of your own. Bet you could even get support from the CFD people. You do not need the FOP to fight that battle just do it yourself. Best way to hurt Grout there can be. Just think of 3-5 thousand tax payers leaving the city in one movement. Better do it before the planned section 8 housing ruins what's left of the few good neighborhoods and theven property values your down.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Its such a shame that The City will waste tax payers dollars to have P.O.'s sit in an area and hope that a gangbanger doesn't get shot all so that the numbers don't go up. I went to a CAPS meeting in 016 for Beats 1931-1932 and Alderman Sposato was there and a citizen again asked why isn't 16 getting more police officers? Well, Sposato goes on to say, and I quote " There are NOT enough 911 calls to support more manpower". Really Sposato? Take a look at the shit going on in 16 and you might think otherwise. You keep up this attitude and YOU might be looking for a new job!
1/28/2020 06:05:00 AM
He is absolutely correct. Look at how many times something is posted on the ring app about a car break in or suspicious people and 3/4 of these idiots DON'T call the police. Especially if the offender is black or brown. Don't want to be labeled a racist so just don't call. Call VOLUME in 16 is very low. If you pay attention police are allocated by call volume. Unfortunately, the assholes causing most of our crime are also the same people that call the police for any and every thing: baby mama drama, my 8 year old won't go to school, my old man is drunk I want him out. You know the game. So get people to start calling at any little suspicious thing.
That Warren endorsement could be kiss of death for Kim. Lizzy is tanking in all the races she is spending huge money in.
Kim your better not have people looking too closely at the totality of your efforts, because if they do they will see that the very people you put gawk on the streets are quickly committing more crimes. How is that Fat Cheeks.
Dating back to 2011, the Chicago Reporter maintains a Chicago Police misconduct database.
hey SCC not to add any more to your plate, but would you consider posting the names of our fallen that were KIA under your header or some where up front, on the date they were KIA like the old "daily bulletin" did every day "In Memory". i would have forgotten a few this year already had it not been for someone who posted in the comments.i like to remember.thanks
Off topic: can you just imagine all the germs that will floating around this years auto show. 😷
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Did the guy who shot his kid in the head in 019 have a SSL number. I didn't think people were allowed to have guns in public housing.
Yes, I think you are correct, and since criminal court has come and gone, maybe it's time to revive eviction court. The Osendaro brothers were dragged out of scattered site property in handcuffs; have they been permitted to remain? Every "person of contact" returns to his subsidized accommodations after a long day of taunting the police. Maybe it would serve the people of Cook County better if housing being wasted on criminal types was freed up for more deserving folk further down on the list. Act on juvie issues too. Can't control Jr.? Let's see how he likes a shopping cart full of card board. There are certifiably retarded people that require that townhouse.
Looks like another Rahm scam bites the dust. The titty must be dry.
Big scandal with the firefighter promotional oral board exams today. Millions of dollars wasted on tests they aren't going to use for a single promotion.
This database rather sounds like it was more trouble than it's worth. And I'm a software engineer, so it's not like I'm playing favorites here.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/01/28/supt-charlie-beck-strips-cmdr-ed-wodnicki-of-his-police-powers-high-speed-chase-indiana-state-police/
Wodnicki is being transferred to the traffic unit starting Monday. Does anyone have an extra white hat?
And soon to come, the Big 60 Volt Lithium Power Tool,
Chief Chuckles Beck, will be on a bird flying back to LA
looking for a place to plug in.
08:40:00 PM
Mr. Software Engineer,
The "crystal ball" was designed in an academic data base
vacuum. It was designed to spit out matches without regard
to the latest legal restrictions on tagging, matching, and
logging the results, creating Mack Truck legal loopholes
eroding its very base as it continued to crunch numbers and
spit out results. A self-defeating doomsday machine enriching
only its creator.
Why isn’t this tool gone?
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-police-commander-relieved-of-powers-20200129-wcuqxrjv3rdnpfm4paqctqsmgm-story.html
Embarrassing why was he in Indiana and googleme cannot say what case he was rushing back for another Cpd White skirted liar!
The database reminds me of the computer programs that were supposed to predict future criminals:
-one point for having a single mother
-one point for family being on welfare
-one point for living in an urban poor area
-one point for being in public housing
-one point for being a minority
-one point for being male
-one point for exposure to illegal drugs and guns
-one point for living in gang territory
-one point for having a close relative in a gang
-one point for having a close relative in jail or died of gang violence
10 points = nearly certain to be a future criminal!
But as you pointed out: "decent street copper with a knowledge of their Beat/District/Area could tell you the exact same thing"
Just read this one on CBW Chicago, Loop phone snatcher caught and held by several citizens. And though the phone snatching was even captured on video by a CPD surveillance camera outside City Hall, prosecutors still charged Young with felony theft and misdemeanor theft of lost or mislaid property. Lost or mislaid property when it's forcibly taken from the hand of the owner of the phone. Judge John Lyke released Young on his own recognizance and ordered him to go on electronic monitoring while awaiting trial". And we all know how well electronic monitoring works in Crook County. That has to be a bit frustrating to the victim and those that captured the scumbag. But then you have to wonder who they voted for and if they will support the same people that have made it Catch and Release Central.
So you see it doesn't really even matter, data or no data, catch or don't catch, when you have Foxx, Dart, Groot and a host of other progressive reprobates in power that point their fingers everywhere but at the people doing the crimes. Add to that the idiot voters that continue to vote with their head firmly planted in their own rear end. Just pass out the pot, it will all be fine. Just keep looking down at your phone as you walk the streets and believe everything the MSM tells you, oh mindless sheep.
https://cwbchicago.com/2020/01/phone-thief-chased-down-tackled-by-good-samaritans-in-the-loop-cops-say.html
Wait, is it bad that it’s gone because it was a useful tool, or is it a good thing that it’s gone because it was a needless expense that only did the same thing as the cops knowing their beats?
"After 10 years, the Chicago Police Department has decommissioned an enormous database that, ostensibly, used analytics in an effort to predict which people are most likely to be involved in shootings — as either the shooter or the victim."
Um, I can tell you who and where......hire me.
Stupidest program I've ever seen. Had to participate in a number of these interventions. What a joke.
EW ,EJ gone both should be charged .
Superintendent, Mayor Lightfoot both want to end Merit promotions . Here’s a start , dump every command staff member that received a Merit Promotion. This will bring back moral . Promotions from all ranks to exempt, pay them exempt salary , have them sign off that pension will be based on their current rank . You have qualified police officers sin every rank . Try it , you’ll help solve pension issues.
Next,, require a Passing score of 70% to participate in part two of Sergeants exam . Have police 🚔 fixers write responses to questions before reading them into a tape recorder . Give officers a copy of their written answers . This will prevent the screw ups by cfd.
Good luck and let’s get some new Sergeants that actually deserve a promise , studied hard and were prepared.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Its such a shame that The City will waste tax payers dollars to have P.O.'s sit in an area and hope that a gangbanger doesn't get shot all so that the numbers don't go up. I went to a CAPS meeting in 016 for Beats 1931-1932 and Alderman Sposato was there and a citizen again asked why isn't 16 getting more police officers? Well, Sposato goes on to say, and I quote " There are NOT enough 911 calls to support more manpower". Really Sposato? Take a look at the shit going on in 16 and you might think otherwise. You keep up this attitude and YOU might be looking for a new job!
1/28/2020 06:05:00 AM
People do need to call when they see or hear something. Too many people don't want to "bother" the police with something relatively small. But those small things are like cancer cells. They take hold, become commonplace, and grow in number and severity.
So call.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just read this one on CBW Chicago, Loop phone snatcher caught and held by several citizens. And though the phone snatching was even captured on video by a CPD surveillance camera outside City Hall, prosecutors still charged Young with felony theft and misdemeanor theft of lost or mislaid property. Lost or mislaid property when it's forcibly taken from the hand of the owner of the phone. Judge John Lyke released Young on his own recognizance and ordered him to go on electronic monitoring while awaiting trial". And we all know how well electronic monitoring works in Crook County. That has to be a bit frustrating to the victim and those that captured the scumbag. But then you have to wonder who they voted for and if they will support the same people that have made it Catch and Release Central.
So you see it doesn't really even matter, data or no data, catch or don't catch, when you have Foxx, Dart, Groot and a host of other progressive reprobates in power that point their fingers everywhere but at the people doing the crimes. Add to that the idiot voters that continue to vote with their head firmly planted in their own rear end. Just pass out the pot, it will all be fine. Just keep looking down at your phone as you walk the streets and believe everything the MSM tells you, oh mindless sheep.
https://cwbchicago.com/2020/01/phone-thief-chased-down-tackled-by-good-samaritans-in-the-loop-cops-say.html
1/28/2020 10:41:00 PM
The lost/mislaid charge was for other property found on him where they don't have a report or victim available yet.
Excuse me, but I will determine who gets a kees or not around here. dA reAl poLicE is a resounding nO.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ethics training? Was at roll call yesterday Lt tells everyone to do ethics if it hasn't been completed. I go check my training and notice that there are 2 types of ethics modules aldermen and everyone else. I also noticed that the aldermen don't have a module for 2019. We're they exempt from the ethics training? Interesting if they were, not that they would abide by ethics guidelines and rules.
1/28/2020 05:16:00 PM
What do you care???????????
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