Fudging the Clearance Rate
The headline reads as a positive:
The sub-headline explains a little bit more:
- More murders were cleared than in any other year in a decade, officials say. But more than half of the solved murders occurred prior to 2019
You still stand a 80% chance of getting away with murder in Chicago, Cook County for a year or more:
- The police said that in 2019 they “cleared more murders than in any of the past 10 years, with 263 murders cleared.”
The solve rate for a given year includes killings in that year and also from previous years. It’s the number the police department provides to the FBI for its national crime summary.
According to crime data the city puts on its website, only 21 percent of the 486 first-degree murders that were listed in 2019 through Dec. 23 had resulted in an arrest.
And "Cleared" doesn't mean "prosecuted." That is a completely separate number that has nothing to do with CPD and everything to do with Crimesha. But don't expect her or Prickwrinkle to be releasing that number any time soon.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
39 Comments:
So with an under 500 murder rate, and clearance rate that has increased, Lighthead should be throwing a 20% raise or more our way.
Are you arbitrators paying attention?
"Chief" Melissa Staples:
Please specify precisely how many of the "cleared" murders were exceptional clearances versus actual arrests followed by indictments for murder.
In cases classified as exceptional clearances other than by the death(s) of the offender(s), kindly specify the clearance reason(s). Since the homicide victims are deceased, "victim refused to prosecute" is moot, ludicrous, null and void.
Happy New Year, "Chief".
Ex Clear Close anything the SAO “CIs”. Dam shame what’s happening around here.
Like the 1920s,the new Roaring 20s of Chicago are a good time to be a bad guy.
SCC - This stat has to be the hardest to verify and confirm and is likely the easiest to goose. We plowed through about half of the supposed arrests the other day and a good number of them had accompanying news stories of the arrestee later being released without being charged. So... is that considered cleared? We say no and only count cleared when we're able to put a name and a face on the arrestee.
The whole metric is BS.
-WHT
Given these Socialist are the same as the ones (national socialist or soviet socialist) of my fathers country, He was born in Breslau, Germany July 9, 1933. you can say they are following what Hitler said during his rise to power— tell a lie a thousand times and it becomes the truth.
Go ahead.. in 10 years the murder rate will be less than 100.
Time to wash behind my ears and use my bidet before it’s double taxed
A successful prosecution starts with CPD officers/ detectives investigations and ends with the prosecutor in the court room. So many cases are loss based on violated rights and technicalities.
Charlie Beck, right now fast asleep and polluted as
a weasel, is dreaming of sugar plums dancing happy
dances as the Stat Masters massage the numbers into
an acceptable narrative. The general public, with an
attention span of 4 seconds flat, will glance at the numbers
and continue to vote Democratic.
Spinmasters all.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Whewww, I’m sure glad Lightfoot & Foxy have taken a bite out of crime in the city. ♠️
this crap started with fat phil he did this year in a hope of securing a promotion for little cline
In the past the typewriters would have been very busy the last two weeks of the year. It appears it has happened again. CCX is in vogue again.
Happy New Year from Wisconsin. Maybe the good mayor should use the duodecimal system - base 12 - to report murder stats. That would be only about 360 murders and the vast majority have no idea what a base 12 number system is.
I don't think anyone's opinion of Chicago is going to be swayed by whether the final number killed exceeds 500 or not. The number of wounded and preyed upon is far greater and the public's perception of crime is probably higher than it really is.
I was going to go look at a really nice 40' sailboat for sale until I found that it is in a yard in the South Side area and looked up the crime stats - 73% higher risk than the national average, 1 in 22 chance of becoming a victim. Plus my CCW is no good in Chicago. There are two sister ships for sale, one in Racine and another on the river north of Detroit so I'm going to go check those out next week. Shame really. The one in Chicago looks like a really nice boat.
80% of the 2019 clearances are cold cases. The media (and CPD) are making it sound like it's all 2019 cases.
A successful prosecution starts with CPD officers/ detectives investigations and ends with the prosecutor in the court room. So many cases are loss based on violated rights and technicalities.
1/01/2020 03:33:00 AM
Or they just die in felony review !
If you don’t catch the offender within 48hrs , you do get away with murder!!!
Motive, Opportunity, Means, That's How you look for a Suspect.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A successful prosecution starts with CPD officers/ detectives investigations and ends with the prosecutor in the court room. So many cases are loss based on violated rights and technicalities.
1/01/2020 03:33:00 AM
violated rights? Says who ? Not my cases
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A successful prosecution starts with CPD officers/ detectives investigations and ends with the prosecutor in the court room. So many cases are loss based on violated rights and technicalities.
1/01/2020 03:33:00 AM
Care to elaborate, oh wise one? Based on all your experience? Because in the years I’ve worked homicides, I’ve never seen one. What I have seen is a states attorney office refuse to prosecute the majority of solid cases. Nowhere else in this country do detectives have to deal with such nonsense.
In a previous post someone asked," How many homicide cases are Cleared/Closed Exceptionally? Back in the day it was extremely difficult to have a case closed exceptionally. One sure way was the death of the offender. A Detective could not classify a case closed exceptionally if the reason was the States Attorneys Office refused to charge. Did things change?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Time to wash behind my ears and use my bidet before it’s double taxed
1/01/2020 02:38:00 AM
It’s ok, you don’t have to pay. Lori said so. Said water is a basic right.
Keesing Bandit is correct. If the public knew the real numbers like at Hey Jackass, The tourist may not want to come to Chicago to play and reap the rewards of being robbed, raped or killed. Ya have to keep the community thugs employed don't ya know.
Area 4 Homicide (Retired) said...
"Chief" Melissa Staples:
Please specify precisely how many of the "cleared" murders were exceptional clearances versus actual arrests followed by indictments for murder.
In cases classified as exceptional clearances other than by the death(s) of the offender(s), kindly specify the clearance reason(s). Since the homicide victims are deceased, "victim refused to prosecute" is moot, ludicrous, null and void.
Happy New Year, "Chief".
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Please specify? Really?
Judging by the title of your post you’re a retired A/4 det??? Are you the dumbest det to ever work in the area? You don’t know the reasons for an XCC? You started off good with the death of an offender but you “kindly” don’t know the other reasons? Lol, you must have been property crimes. Lol, enjoy retirement and stay off the blog, get a hobby.
I'm not a cop but feel for you humans who have to work as one in this windy city.
You must shake your heads in disbelief like a bobble doll.
I'll say a prayer for you all, who know you need to leave, those who know the truth that things will never get better, and you're in a go nowhere job with very high risk, get out of here ASAP!
Look for another job in another suburban township if you can. Because anywhere has to be better than here!
It's easier to find another job while you have a job.
Again, God bless you folks in Blue, take care, and keep in mind numero uno, and your familys. Life is short
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A successful prosecution starts with CPD officers/ detectives investigations and ends with the prosecutor in the court room. So many cases are loss based on violated rights and technicalities.
1/01/2020 03:33:00 AM
Care to elaborate, oh wise one? Based on all your experience? Because in the years I’ve worked homicides, I’ve never seen one. What I have seen is a states attorney office refuse to prosecute the majority of solid cases. Nowhere else in this country do detectives have to deal with such nonsense.
1/01/2020 12:20:00 PM
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Amen brother! I worked in homicide for almost 20 yrs and I NEVER witnessed, observed, or heard about any thing that suggested rights were violated. Is your experience as a 3 period detail to the Mission team?
The death penalty should be reinstated, which easily eliminates cop killers, murderers, druggies and rapists from repeat offenses
to " happy new year from wisconsin " what boat yard on the south side were you interested in. the ones off of archer on the canal and way south in cal city are ok during the day. state the location and im sure you will get good advice here. best of luck with your sailboat.
Anonymous said...
A successful prosecution starts with CPD officers/ detectives investigations and ends with the prosecutor in the court room. So many cases are loss based on violated rights and technicalities.
1/01/2020 03:33:00 AM
HaHa. A successful prosecution starts with an actual prosecutor willing to do their job and follow the laws of the state of Illinois.
80% of the 2019 clearances are cold cases. The media (and CPD) are making it sound like it's all 2019 cases.
LOL. Seriously? You apparently aren’t a Detective. If they were cold cases, they would not be cleared. Clearing a murder takes time son. Go back to your CSI shows.
The media is not making it sound like they are all 2019 cases. Try rereading the articles. Also verse yourself in the FBI UCR guidelines for clearance rates before you start talking about shit about something you obviously have no knowledge about.
O'Boy a 12.2% clearance rate up from 10. something and given that nothing in Chicago is trustworthy has anyone been convicted at all?
How does Chief Melissa Staples or Deputy Chief Jones still have jobs? They placed the most incompetent in charge in the hottest areas and held the ones they didn't like by the balls literally until they shut down. Do you homework Beck. The Rock Muhammad, Meyers switch is epic. Congratulations on last place Meyers. Yeah Melissa, you showed them. Rock had Area South number one before you lied on him, dumped him and you got shitted on forbeing evil. I'm still laughing at you. Oh wait, that was in over his head Brendan's boy. You all know how to pick them. Meyers is now where, in Gang Intelligence after doing nothing for a year and getting dumped out the D? FOH
Still today the FBI refuses the monthly UCR reports from C.P.D.
Why ? Because they still believe that " fudging " still continues by
the direction of the 5th floor.
A successful prosecution starts with CPD officers/ detectives investigations and ends with the prosecutor in the court room. So many cases are loss based on violated rights and technicalities.
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You must be extra-ordinarily ignorant, stupid, suffering from some form of mental deficiency or all of the above. Do us a solid and go play in traffic.
Someone already said it. This has always been a cat & mouse game, but especially in the last month it was a joke...Ex Clear Close, Ex Clear Open, Bar to Prosecute. They are closing murders where the “offender” has fled the country. The numbers are a bit dodgy to verify but on some arrest reports the “offenders” weren’t even officially denied or rejected by the state, but simply C.I.’d. Deputy Chief JONES’ office made a mad sprint the past few weeks to push thru as many clearances as they could. Why, exactly do we give a shit? It’s a “win” for us in the sense that we don’t have to deal with cases not prosecuted bc the community doesn’t step up and come forward or because of a State’s Attorneys Office willing to let criminals walk out the door because they don’t want to do their job. But I say leave the cases uncleared and make no bones about why it hasn’t been cleared...There are good detectives working some of these cases, but yes, I can see the fuck it attitude by the department with just closing it bc the State doesn’t want to bring anything to trial before all their work is done. The state has always played this game of having the detectives do the State’s job of trying a case before it gets to them. They want an undeniable win to notch on their belt. There was a time ASA s expected evidence to be rushed on every other case before they’d approve charges, when they finally were told that ain’t happening anymore by the State Crime Lab. This charade will continue because we will always have a Superintendent and exempts that are chosen simply because they work hand in glove with political objectives/politicians that usually have aspirations that have nothing to do with what is actually lawful, about keeping peace & order and/or “doing the right thing.” I’d go one step further and see if someone could pull together the CI’d/RWOC or Denied numbers on murders since Kim Foxx took office.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A successful prosecution starts with CPD officers/ detectives investigations and ends with the prosecutor in the court room. So many cases are loss based on violated rights and technicalities
Stay off the blog, Kim
Anonymous said...
How does Chief Melissa Staples or Deputy Chief Jones still have jobs? They placed the most incompetent in charge in the hottest areas and held the ones they didn't like by the balls literally until they shut down. Do you homework Beck. The Rock Muhammad, Meyers switch is epic. Congratulations on last place Meyers. Yeah Melissa, you showed them. Rock had Area South number one before you lied on him, dumped him and you got shitted on forbeing evil. I'm still laughing at you. Oh wait, that was in over his head Brendan's boy. You all know how to pick them. Meyers is now where, in Gang Intelligence after doing nothing for a year and getting dumped out the D? FOH
1/02/2020 10:09:00 AM
Are you high? Did you stand in that weed line and then get on the blog??
Staples moving the “Box of Rocks” Muhammad to RBT where he ALSO DIS NOTHING was probably one of her best moves. That guy would still be a PO in 006 if he didn’t get tied into the “fraternity” game with Waller & Johnson. I will concede Myers was no prize and his interest in pretending he was going to be called up to the Majors from his Men’s league was his downfall, BUT the difference between the two???
One clouted fuck who should have been dumped to a dist. was made a commander. And,
The other clouted fuck who should have been dumped to a dist was put in Gang Intell. Neither is worth the sweat on a mule’s ass.
Where did Staples go wrong? Rodney Blisset should have been priority #1 on being dumped! The problems all start with that moron.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
In a previous post someone asked," How many homicide cases are Cleared/Closed Exceptionally? Back in the day it was extremely difficult to have a case closed exceptionally. One sure way was the death of the offender. A Detective could not classify a case closed exceptionally if the reason was the States Attorneys Office refused to charge. Did things change?
Yes, Cleared Closed Exceptionally is the new goal. One good GPR and the team is out to dinner.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How does Chief Melissa Staples or Deputy Chief Jones still have jobs? They placed the most incompetent in charge in the hottest areas and held the ones they didn't like by the balls literally until they shut down. Do you homework Beck. The Rock Muhammad, Meyers switch is epic. Congratulations on last place Meyers. Yeah Melissa, you showed them. Rock had Area South number one before you lied on him, dumped him and you got shitted on forbeing evil. I'm still laughing at you. Oh wait, that was in over his head Brendan's boy. You all know how to pick them. Meyers is now where, in Gang Intelligence after doing nothing for a year and getting dumped out the D? FOH
Good question. Jones calls the areas harassing everyone but he hadn't dumped anyone.
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