New Start Times?
We aren't sure about everywhere else, but in one of our workplaces, the Watch Secretaries are already preparing the sheets for Change Day (Thursday) with the new start times.
But we also heard (and have seen in the comments) that the FOP filed an Unfair Labor Practices grievance that is to be heard Wednesday morning.
Has the outcome been predetermined already? Or is this another case where the rank-and-file have to be "harmed" before any sort of action can be taken against the city?
But we also heard (and have seen in the comments) that the FOP filed an Unfair Labor Practices grievance that is to be heard Wednesday morning.
Has the outcome been predetermined already? Or is this another case where the rank-and-file have to be "harmed" before any sort of action can be taken against the city?
Labels: department issues, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
93 Comments:
Or is it the watch secretary planning for the worse
If the City loses the new times will be part of the negotiations. If the City wins the new times will be part of the negotiations. City wins either way, what’s there not to understand.
What’s the big secret? It is what it is!!
We also get 45 minute roll calls for extra training so the consent decree idiots are happy. More snooooooooze time.
Hold yourself down for the first HOUR for Roll call training, paperwork and E-learning!
You’re not “harmed” if the shift adjustment falls within the scope of your labor agreement, which it does. Welcome to the working world. You might have to swipe in and out and be present for the whole time you are paid too. Scary stuff.
If Magnum Beck wants any cooperation from the rank and file, this is where he should step in.
Sorry, not a contract violation.
The beatings will continue until morale improves
Like any other Job, the employer has the right to change the starting times unless it's already been negotiated in an existing contract. I don't that it has.
One of the Fop candidates is going to roll calls all over the city . He is on the medical at call back but is well enough to go to roll calls . How is that possible ? His first ten years on the job he was in the medical 800 days . He has also obtained Cr Numbers on cops during his entire career . The last one almost cost an officer his job . Don’t be fooled by this master manipulator !
Off topic:
"Mendoza said fines for red light cameras fall disproportionately on minority and low-income drivers"
Somebody please tell me how race or income has any fuckn correlation on driving like an asshole and blowing a red light? We are doomed .....just like saying the SAT test is racist
OT
And on a lighter note (no pun intended)......
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FOP wins these grievances how come i AINT seeing any reward or damage in my pocket?
It seems the city keeps kicking us in the ass
FOP puts in a grievance or unfair labor practice
WE win the action
OFFICERs get DICK nothing no money comp time or anything
throw in rigged promotion test, sexual harassment by exempts and i would think this place is a corrupt business!
i bet this doesnt affect the caps officers
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) called Colin Kaepernick a “racist” after the activist and former NFL quarterback criticized America’s airstrike assassination of Iran’s top commander.
hey colin you big jpg i think you barack eric holder . loreeta lynch kimesha ( i dont have an IQ) and groot are racist haters too.
Start times will change. Work first then grieve, the fop way !
You'll have to prepare for The new start times because the hearing judge may not make a decision at that time. It's screwed up. Kind of like a guy who's been psyched several times is stripped put in to call back and then is able to go on the medical so he can campaign for president. You just can't make this shit up.
It's not the start times,,they want to go back to the 6 and 2 schedule. Work six and off two. Long time in between before you see your weekends off. And they want everyone on this schedule. 35th street too. More people on hand for the weekend when you need to deploy officers to south and west sides. Sort of makes sense from the city standpoint.
this is a tough spot. hearing the day before implement. prepare for new start times unless judge grants injunction or something related. Department is in lots of transition, Never before have you had 5 important things at once: contract negotiations, an FOP election, New mayor, A fired superintendent and search for new one, department brass leaving and everyone jockeying for a new position.. oh and you got a guy who is stripped, psyched, placed in callback and then goes on the medical from callback so he can campaign all day for FOP President... this is a book deal for sure for someone.
Is anyone in the department paying attention to what’s going on in the world? We are currently on the verge of war with the largest supporter of terrorism in the world and we haven’t mobilized any assets to high value targets. Shameful and clueless!
They have to be prepared schedule wise for the new times because of the issue with the cars going out to same beat every day. Its easier to have to go back to our current schedule than the other way around if FOP wins whatever they have going in courts. From a unit timekeeper
You’ll get new start times and you’ll like it!!
Admin house mices’ and Watch secretaries starting times are not affected.
Whew, that’s a relief.
Start doing less sooner or do less later...does it matter?
The 1st & 16th twice a month always comes in on time.
You’re not “harmed” if the shift adjustment falls within the scope of your labor agreement, which it does. Welcome to the working world. You might have to swipe in and out and be present for the whole time you are paid too. Scary stuff.
Having worked for another LE department, other jobs and county. I can tell you, CPD is spoiled, we have it way better than any other department. There's a reason why most who leave, come right back.
06:36:00. You are so spot on. These entitled few cry about everything. When you became a police officer were you promised that you would work less than your full tour? Were you promised your social life including babysitting would revolve around the job? If you so hate the job leave. You are the same as the idiot celebrities who complain about Trump and threaten to leave the US. So leave. You are nothing but a bunch of whiners who are a disgrace.
Someone pass me my neck pillow it’s hard work in da streets.
Bend over again. Happy 2020.
No reason at all for time changes !!!!
Mayor Lightfoot , dump Cato , he’s an embarrassment to CPD. Fire Inside Escamerit like the Inspector General recommended also dump who ever allowed a thief rules and regulations breaker to be assigned to the elite assignment of an Indpector. An assignment that enforces not breaks rules and regulations of CPD
Even Liberal idiot Cuomo from New York sees the potential for violent extremists to hit us hard and has ordered the National Guard to assist at high value targets especially rail and airports. Where the hell is our plan and added manpower? We should have heavily armed officers everywhere even if it means paying overtime. A hit on O’Hare would cripple the nation and the psyche of the American travelers. Please Superintendant Beck actually do something preemptively before tragedy strikes.
Anonymous said...
Is anyone in the department paying attention to what’s going on in the world? We are currently on the verge of war with the largest supporter of terrorism in the world and we haven’t mobilized any assets to high value targets. Shameful and clueless!
1/06/2020 09:52:00 AM
No worries, Baby Yoda has the Mandalorian for protection...
Fuck there 6 and 2 schedule. Morale is in the toilet now, it will be in the sewer if that happens. That schedule will destroy officers and their families. The 4 on 2 is awesome. If the rumors are true about the 6 and 2 then that just shows this department and city doesn’t care at all about its officers and our health. Also if the city hates the 4 and 2 then they should just implement 5 on 2 off then 5 on 3 off that’s what New York does 8.5 HR shifts.
Kevin Graham better be prepared to come back to his Uptown foot post in 019. He’s 100% not winning re-election. Useless
Outcome predetermined? Never!
Lol not
Fats won't call out the guard because he won't allow them to have load3d weapons. Democrats don't like guns.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Admin house mices’ and Watch secretaries starting times are not affected.
Whew, that’s a relief.
Why would they be changed? How did you think they got the spots, those special needs and expected exemptions
CPD ready for an attack? Would be so funny if it were not so serious. The clout units protecting us against real threats, God help us.
Even Liberal idiot Cuomo from New York sees the potential for violent extremists to hit us hard and has ordered the National Guard to assist at high value targets especially rail and airports. Where the hell is our plan and added manpower? We should have heavily armed officers everywhere even if it means paying overtime. A hit on O’Hare would cripple the nation and the psyche of the American travelers. Please Superintendant Beck actually do something preemptively before tragedy strikes.
With 50% transfers to 050 being management, not sure it’s a good idea to heavily arm them. Could be a safety issue
Even Liberal idiot Cuomo from New York sees the potential for violent extremists to hit us hard and has ordered the National Guard to assist at high value targets especially rail and airports. Where the hell is our plan and added manpower? We should have heavily armed officers everywhere even if it means paying overtime. A hit on O’Hare would cripple the nation and the psyche of the American travelers. Please Superintendant Beck actually do something preemptively before tragedy strikes.
1/06/2020 03:53:00 PM
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Relax, nutjob.
One would have thought residency would be on the table for this contract, given FOP President Graham’s current residency situation.
Then again, Illinois Supreme Court Justice Anne Burke stated in her opinion on the Rahm Emmanuel wedding dress residency case, that the Court’s decision to allow Rahm Emmanuel to remain a candidate for Mayor of Chicago renders enforcement of any residency requirement impossible.
So there’s that.
Maybe FOP doesn’t even have to fight residency at this stage?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Even Liberal idiot Cuomo from New York sees the potential for violent extremists to hit us hard and has ordered the National Guard to assist at high value targets especially rail and airports. Where the hell is our plan and added manpower? We should have heavily armed officers everywhere even if it means paying overtime. A hit on O’Hare would cripple the nation and the psyche of the American travelers. Please Superintendant Beck actually do something preemptively before tragedy strikes.
1/06/2020 03:53:00 PM
Thirsty for airport OT so you can work on getting a spot?
Anonymous said...
It's not the start times,,they want to go back to the 6 and 2 schedule. Work six and off two. Long time in between before you see your weekends off. And they want everyone on this schedule. 35th street too. More people on hand for the weekend when you need to deploy officers to south and west sides. Sort of makes sense from the city standpoint.
1/06/2020 09:31:00 AM
I truly hope this does not happen. That was a horrible work schedule.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
One of the Fop candidates is going to roll calls all over the city . He is on the medical at call back but is well enough to go to roll calls . How is that possible ? His first ten years on the job he was in the medical 800 days . He has also obtained Cr Numbers on cops during his entire career . The last one almost cost an officer his job . Don’t be fooled by this master manipulator !
1/06/2020 07:50:00 AM
He's on furlo, but why let the truth get in the way.
Somebody needs to tell Mendoza that murders and robberies fall mainly on minorities and low income people too. Fact is that both at committed by minorities and low income people themselves not by other races. And it’s not a police problem it’s a feral community problem in the minority and low income neighborhoods.
For our contract the FOP should try and get something like the sgts when it comes to selling back hours every year. Doesn’t have to be 200 but maybe start at 30 or 50 hours and in the future get more hours. 50 hours sold back after Christmas and before spring break helps and it’s pensionable.
This is punishment pure and simple. The little girl from Ohio is smiling and thoroughly enjoying this exercise in visiting misery upon the Dept. You knew she's coming after us in job related activities. So all things being equal we should acknowledge her vindictive ways by providing zero Dept. statistics that Groot and Beck desperately need.
For the hard chargers you have a clear pathway to lock'em up. Good hunting and take care.
Off topic but important
Does anyone know if the FOP has initiated legal action to stop the city from giving 5 different sergeants oral exams over 5 days?
Kevin?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's not the start times,,they want to go back to the 6 and 2 schedule. Work six and off two. Long time in between before you see your weekends off. And they want everyone on this schedule. 35th street too. More people on hand for the weekend when you need to deploy officers to south and west sides. Sort of makes sense from the city standpoint.
1/06/2020 09:31:00 AM
No it doesn’t make sense from the city’s standpoint. Every study conducted showed that the overwhelming majority of CR’s and lawsuits occurred on Day 6. You want more cr’s and lawsuits? Go ahead and bring back that schedule and watch morale and productivity plummet while all crimes rapidly increase.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
It's not the start times,,they want to go back to the 6 and 2 schedule. Work six and off two. Long time in between before you see your weekends off. And they want everyone on this schedule. 35th street too. More people on hand for the weekend when you need to deploy officers to south and west sides. Sort of makes sense from the city standpoint.
1/06/2020 09:31:00 AM
I truly hope this does not happen. That was a horrible work schedule.
1/06/2020 08:10:00 PM
Stop with the BS. The 6-2 has never been discussed and will never be discussed. The only reason the start times are changing is to make the shift change more efficient.
1/06/2020 09:31:00 AM
First Get out of mommas basement....second it’s less time to get to your weekends on the old schedule than the 4/2
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is anyone in the department paying attention to what’s going on in the world? We are currently on the verge of war with the largest supporter of terrorism in the world and we haven’t mobilized any assets to high value targets. Shameful and clueless!
1/06/2020 09:52:00 AM
Relax chicken little, we have been at war with the Muslims since 1979 when they stormed the US embassy and took Americans hostage for 444 days, only to release them the day Reagan was inaugurated because he knew Carter was a chump and Ronnie wasn’t playing. Same with Trump, he got this. And he ain’t going to send billions of our dollars in cash on pallets like Jug Ears did.
So what are the starting times? For all the watches?
"Anonymous said...
Is anyone in the department paying attention to what’s going on in the world? We are currently on the verge of war with the largest supporter of terrorism in the world and we haven’t mobilized any assets to high value targets. Shameful and clueless!
1/06/2020 09:52:00 AM"
My my you ARE a pearl clutcher, aren't you?
When Weis came in, he changed the 6 and 2 to 4 and 2 after looking at research about how statistically there were more CRs and Trrs done on the 5th and even more on the 6th day
So ready for these Boss changes
Bring that shit onnnnnnnn
Anonymous said...
Is anyone in the department paying attention to what’s going on in the world? We are currently on the verge of war with the largest supporter of terrorism in the world and we haven’t mobilized any assets to high value targets. Shameful and clueless!
1/06/2020 09:52:00 AM
***we have been on the outs and fighting with IRAN since 1979...what did they do to Chicago??? Still Waiting. Your such a moron...go bury your head in the sand!
If they hit ohare it will be a total loss, most of the guys working there will die of heart attacks after running 10 feet. And the people Carter's snuck in will simply run away or stay in their holes.
Even Liberal idiot Cuomo from New York sees the potential for violent extremists to hit us hard and has ordered the National Guard to assist at high value targets especially rail and airports. Where the hell is our plan and added manpower? We should have heavily armed officers everywhere even if it means paying overtime. A hit on O’Hare would cripple the nation and the psyche of the American travelers. Please Superintendant Beck actually do something preemptively before tragedy strikes.
1/06/2020 03:53:00 PM
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Relax, nutjob.
I dunno seems like Iraq all over again... these guys don’t fall in line
Stop whining and unify! Don't do anything for a month, see how the mayor handles that. We have it in our power to effect a change if we could just stop complaining about what the other guy has or wants. Just join together and conduct a job action. Like they like to say, no justice no peace.
Anyone that believes upending an administration in the middle of negotiations will turn into a better outcome is moronic. The city will have no reason to negotiate knowing that the temperamental cops are just going to vote out the person being negotiated with. Why tip their hand? The FOP election needs to be after a contract negotiation. If it sucks, boot the president and go to arbitration. Simple. But acting like just changing who’s in charge will solve the problem is short-sighted. Think forward and think about what the replacement would do. Why was Graham voted in over the prior incumbent? Why would another competitor be better? An FOP president is not going to scare the city. A united police department will. I don’t think I have to expand on what a silly idea it is that we would actually unite and remain united.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Even Liberal idiot Cuomo from New York sees the potential for violent extremists to hit us hard and has ordered the National Guard to assist at high value targets especially rail and airports. Where the hell is our plan and added manpower? We should have heavily armed officers everywhere even if it means paying overtime. A hit on O’Hare would cripple the nation and the psyche of the American travelers. Please Superintendant Beck actually do something preemptively before tragedy strikes.
1/06/2020 03:53:00 PM
Thirsty for airport OT so you can work on getting a spot?
1/06/2020 07:31:00 PM
would be Nice to see Coppers at 050 doing something besides wandering the garage writing expired/missing rear & front plate tickets.
Lord knows the Traffic Aides can't get shit done up there with Arrivals and Departures since their supervisors are the only ones with a Parker Book.
Unless you want to see that guy on a bike up there more often than he is these days. I heard from a source that O'Hare is now a perm detail rotation for the Finance people.
CPD ready for an attack? Would be so funny if it were not so serious. The clout units protecting us against real threats, God help us.
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Yup.. I got my revolver and 12 extra rounds. Also my car in fuckin' reverse real fast.
Every time the department wants to make a change, did you ever notice that it brings out the crybabies. People who make about $100,000 a year who just cant function outside of the normal world. This isn't the Ford Motor company with a strong union that knows how to fight, you are led by Fop, Pbpa that sleep with the city and take you money to give you a book and sticker. Sure glad I'm retired on my 95,000 Sergeants retirement pay.
There is no attempt to go back to 6 and 2. Just stop your BS.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For our contract the FOP should try and get something like the sgts when it comes to selling back hours every year. Doesn’t have to be 200 but maybe start at 30 or 50 hours and in the future get more hours. 50 hours sold back after Christmas and before spring break helps and it’s pensionable.
1/06/2020 09:37:00 PM
Sorry dude, it is NOT pensionable.
Anonymous said...
When Weis came in, he changed the 6 and 2 to 4 and 2 after looking at research about how statistically there were more CRs and Trrs done on the 5th and even more on the 6th day
1/07/2020 01:09:00 AM
as an old retired guy who spent his career on 6 and 2 day off groups, believe me, you do not want to work this schedule. Yes, it is great when your two long weekends come up, but the rest of the time it drains you. And, it is especially bad when something comes up in the city and one or both of your weekends are cancelled. The old schedule is murder on those working straight 1st watch. The old schedule was doable when we were rotating every 28 days, but became a killer when straight watches came in.
" Anonymous said...
For our contract the FOP should try and get something like the sgts when it comes to selling back hours every year. Doesn’t have to be 200 but maybe start at 30 or 50 hours and in the future get more hours. 50 hours sold back after Christmas and before spring break helps and it’s pensionable."
It's not pensionable, sgts and above have been selling back for years. And drop the whole residency thing. It will never happen.
This too shall pass. Breathe deep and count to 10. There feel better now. You guys would have a real hard time in the real world where schedules change all the time and no comp time for all the work done at home on weekends and nights. All this for 50-60K per year. Overtime, forget it your salaried. STFU and punch in when they tell you and try to work a full day. No docking early because you wrote a couple of parkers or movers. LOL at your plight.
They are not talking about going to 6 and 2...knock it off with the bs!!!...
listen kids , that's the plan . politicians want cps to do less .
do more , a lot more , parkers , every suspended driver license or no insurance , every city sticker , every license violation
next premise checks at local businesses on your beat , write them up
forget the drugs , guns
hammer the crap out of the people , business in your district
go down on air , going in with a suspension , need a supervisor for liquor license violation , coin operated machines etc
bring city to their knees
it worked in 70's before a union
Anonymous said...
For our contract the FOP should try and get something like the sgts when it comes to selling back hours every year. Doesn’t have to be 200 but maybe start at 30 or 50 hours and in the future get more hours. 50 hours sold back after Christmas and before spring break helps and it’s pensionable.
Why doesn’t it have to be 200 hours? Why are the sgts special when it comes to only them selling back 200 hours? And quit whimping about starting at 30 to 50 hours. Sgts started at 200
What’s pensionable? Not the 200 hours
Stop whining and unify! Don't do anything for a month, see how the mayor handles that. We have it in our power to effect a change if we could just stop complaining about what the other guy has or wants. Just join together and conduct a job action. Like they like to say, no justice no peace.
Your the one who’s whining. Doing nothing will accomplish nothing. Do your freaking job or retire. Good luck finding a job with 365 sick days, uniform check, duty availability check, 200 hours of v time, 6 bfd, 4 p days and overtime for holidays and court.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's not the start times,,they want to go back to the 6 and 2 schedule. Work six and off two. Long time in between before you see your weekends off. And they want everyone on this schedule. 35th street too. More people on hand for the weekend when you need to deploy officers to south and west sides. Sort of makes sense from the city standpoint.
1/06/2020 09:31:00 AM
No it doesn’t make sense from the city’s standpoint. Every study conducted showed that the overwhelming majority of CR’s and lawsuits occurred on Day 6. You want more cr’s and lawsuits? Go ahead and bring back that schedule and watch morale and productivity plummet while all crimes rapidly increase.
1/06/2020 10:03:00 PM
Correct. The 6-2 was a disaster for the department. It will never happen again in modern policing. Police officers need down time to be more efficient and avoid burnout. The city and department is trying very hard to act like they care about police suicides, so going to the 6-2 would be contradictory to what they’re trying to do. What they should do is go to the 10hr or 12hr day like most departments. More days off in a row makes for a better police officer.
Relax chicken little, we have been at war with the Muslims since 1979 when they stormed the US embassy and took Americans hostage for 444 days, only to release them the day Reagan was inaugurated because he knew Carter was a chump and Ronnie wasn’t playing. Same with Trump, he got this. And he ain’t going to send billions of our dollars in cash on pallets like Jug Ears did.
1/06/2020 11:04:00 PM
Spot on and hahahahha... Jug ears!
"Anonymous said...
Is anyone in the department paying attention to what’s going on in the world? We are currently on the verge of war with the largest supporter of terrorism in the world and we haven’t mobilized any assets to high value targets. Shameful and clueless!
1/06/2020 09:52:00 AM"
You need to smoke a joint
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is no attempt to go back to 6 and 2. Just stop your BS.
1/07/2020 08:11:00 AM
Don’t bet your house on that. We had a guy running for FOP come to a roll call and he said the 6/2 is back on the table.
Hey 11:03 AM-There are no kids employed on the Chicago Police Department.You and the "Boys and Girls" posters need lessons in respect.
For those of you pining on about residency, it is not a contractual item. It is built into state law to prevent larger cities (not just Chicago) from losing population and for the employees to have a vested interest in the city they serve.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
One of the Fop candidates is going to roll calls all over the city . He is on the medical at call back but is well enough to go to roll calls . How is that possible ? His first ten years on the job he was in the medical 800 days . He has also obtained Cr Numbers on cops during his entire career . The last one almost cost an officer his job . Don’t be fooled by this master manipulator !
You sir are a spineless weasel. Sign your name when you slander someone.
Its actual re occurrence of an IOD and my next appointment is 17JAN. Then I have a 2nd period furlough.
Since I already know this was the talking points of the "professional " writers ticket, it's clear where it comes from. I had THREE surgery in that 10 years. MAYBE if your balls were as big as your mouth, you would actually own up to your identity!
Signed
YOUR next FOP President
John Catanzara
2020 Vision
I’m calling bs on the 6 and 2....the FOP I betcha is creating the old smoke and mirrors politician move to make it seem hey look at us we kept u guys from going to 6 and 2!!! I’m calling bs on FOP or whoever is saying they talking about going to 6 and 2! Will not happen. The city knows even the young buckaroos would be soooo pissed off that even they would not come in with any activity! So knock it off with the bs!!
You’re not “harmed” if the shift adjustment falls within the scope of your labor agreement, which it does. Welcome to the working world. You might have to swipe in and out and be present for the whole time you are paid too. Scary stuff.
1/06/2020 06:36:00 AM
You better read the contract again, or at least attend a union meeting. Any permanent adjustment t o duty start times are a contractual issue.
Why doesn’t it have to be 200 hours? Why are the sgts special when it comes to only them selling back 200 hours? And quit whimping about starting at 30 to 50 hours. Sgts started at 200
What’s pensionable? Not the 200 hours
1/07/2020 11:13:00 AM
With 11000 detectives and officers given the perk as only 1300 sgts have the city would never agree to 200 hours per year per officer sold back. It would break their bank. If you start small at 50 a year then maybe it’s something they bite on. Think a little bit big mouth and put yourself in the cities shoes. Even though the city will pay out a lot more at retirement the city doesn’t look ahead like that. 11 thousand people selling back 200 hours a year is a financial burden the city would never do. 50 hours though??? Possible.
I do my job. I have kids, am I an asshole?
Your the one who’s whining. Doing nothing will accomplish nothing. Do your freaking job or retire. Good luck finding a job with 365 sick days, uniform check, duty availability check, 200 hours of v time, 6 bfd, 4 p days and overtime for holidays and court.
1/07/2020 11:18:00 AM
I'm not the original poster that you were responding to but I agree with him or her. You can't make me write tickets or do ISRs boss. Get on board with what the liberals in this city want, (not the retarded Exempts so they can look good at Compstat) or you can find a job in another department being the 'Real Police.' Dork
I dunno seems like Iraq all over again... these guys don’t fall in line
1/07/2020 03:04:00 AM
And how many times did Iraq attack O'Hare? Exactly.
Why doesn’t it have to be 200 hours? Why are the sgts special when it comes to only them selling back 200 hours? And quit whimping about starting at 30 to 50 hours. Sgts started at 200
What’s pensionable? Not the 200 hours
1/07/2020 11:13:00 AM
With 11000 detectives and officers given the perk as only 1300 sgts have the city would never agree to 200 hours per year per officer sold back. It would break their bank. If you start small at 50 a year then maybe it’s something they bite on. Think a little bit big mouth and put yourself in the cities shoes. Even though the city will pay out a lot more at retirement the city doesn’t look ahead like that. 11 thousand people selling back 200 hours a year is a financial burden the city would never do. 50 hours though??? Possible.
With that logic why doesn’t the city just allow everyone to get paid for 50 hours including the sgts? So because there are only 1300 sgts they could give them double time instead of time and a half or longer furl is because it doesn’t cost the city as much? Maybe even larger raises.
Original point was if the city can offer a benefit to sgts they should do the same for the po’s
I think everyone understands it cost less if less officers are involved
Anonymous said...
Your the one who’s whining. Doing nothing will accomplish nothing. Do your freaking job or retire. Good luck finding a job with 365 sick days, uniform check, duty availability check, 200 hours of v time, 6 bfd, 4 p days and overtime for holidays and court.
1/07/2020 11:18:00 AM
You forgot that FOP gave away duty availability to anyone with less than 4 years. Thanks FOP!
And they count your RDO as a vacation day. What private practice does that?
For those of you pining on about residency, it is not a contractual item. It is built into state law to prevent larger cities (not just Chicago) from losing population and for the employees to have a vested interest in the city they serve.
True, but it only applies to Chicago. Find me another city over 2-million. It used to be 2.5-million. The City would have to counter with more than, well you have a job or knew when you started. Not barging over residency is like when Rham supports would say "not my president."
Wrong, the west has been at war with the radical Muslims since circa 600AD. History.
Just gonna watch everything unfold so laugh now because you will cry later.
People on here talking about stop complaining about having to work. Shut up! No one is complaining about having to work. The schedule changes actually affect people who have children and families outside of this job. What purpose does it serve change the schedule in the name of a consent decree? A 45-minute roll call is not going to change anything. We will be standing around talking, looking at our phones and holding our dicks for 45 mins until the previous watch comes in with the cars and equipment we need.
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