Sunday, January 05, 2020

Police Shooting

  • A Chicago police officer deployed a Taser twice and then another shot a robbery suspect who lunged toward an officer while brandishing a large knife Saturday afternoon outside a South Shore neighborhood pizzeria, police said.

    Officers responded to a call just after 3:15 p.m. of a man wanted for a robbery that had occurred in the 2600 block of East 79th Street, Chief of Patrol Fred Waller told reporters during a news conference near the scene. Officers spoke to a robbery victim who gave them a description of the person responsible and the direction he left. Officers went to that area and saw a man who fit the description of the suspect near 79th Street and Marquette Avenue, outside a pizzeria, Waller said.

    He was holding a large knife, described as about 8 to 10 inches long, when he was confronted by police. An officer told him to drop the knife, but he advanced toward the officers, who continued to instruct him to drop the knife, Waller said. A female officer then deployed her Taser twice. The Taser had no effect on the man, Waller said. A male officer then fired three times, and Waller said he believes the man was struck twice in the chest.
Officers attempted to use less-than-lethal methods and when that didn't work, properly took action to eliminate the threat to their lives and the lives of anyone else who may have run across the knife-wielding assailant. Excellent job all around.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don’t read the part of the sun times article where they have comments by another “community activist”. It’ll just make your blood pressure elevate 60 points.

1/05/2020 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Tha' Communerty" is highly displeased...

"RACIST Poleece always killin' our youfs
FOR NO GOOD REASON!"

Local media will elevate this asshole
to sainthood per the usual narrative.

There's an Officer rotting in prison
over a knife swinging hard-head being
elevated to sainthood...

1/05/2020 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good job officers.

1/05/2020 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By all accounts it appears a good shoot. COPA will find something wrong in order to screw the officer who discharged the weapon. Of course that’s not to say COPA doesn’t lean on the officer who deployed the taser. Foxx waiting in the wings salivating at the possibility of putting a cop away. This City, County, and State are so fucked up drowning in SJ justice. Be safe officers, watch your backs.

1/05/2020 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I only take out a taser because they force us. I wouldn't trust it in the streets.

1/05/2020 01:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great work and I’m glad we all went home safe.

I just really hate to hear about cops using less-lethal options when encountering subjects armed with deadly weapons.
The typically effective range of a taser has a maximum of 15 feet, and has about a 50% success rate.
The typically accepted “kill zone” of an edged weapon is 21 feet.
So you actually have to put yourself 30% INTO the offenders kill zone in order to attempt to use a less-lethal option, that only works half the time under optimal conditions.

Happy to hear the cops are all well, but please let’s think about our safety and only take the risks that are necessary.
Those numbers aren’t favorable for us, and we always like the odds to be in our favor.

1/05/2020 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another Mental in the 004th Dist unbelievably. Good shoot be safe all back from furlough soon. Hey I’ll take 16% for 4 years and retro this earlier stream is BS. Remember Kevin who got voted out for mishandling the retro “ Shields” is just an ugly memory.

1/05/2020 02:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

De-escalation tactics from ACLU manual:

1. Ask the assailant trying to end your life to stop, please.
2. Ask the assailant trying to end your life to stop, please.
3. Ask the assailant trying to end your life to stop, please.
4. Ask the assailant trying to end your life to stop, please.
5. Ask the assailant trying to end your life to stop, please - but this time, raise your voice.
6. Inform the assailant trying to end your life that there will be serious consequences if he/she/they (use assailant's preferred pronoun) continue their assault.
7. Produce rubber ducky from pocket; squeeze until it emits noise.
8. Display palm of free hand to demonstrate that you are unarmed.
9. Inform the assailant trying to end your life that you are not racist.
10. Quote Martin Luther King's "I Have A Dream" speech.
11. If still alive and conscious, state that you would rather die than harm an innocent man.
12. Die.

1/05/2020 02:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Obama had a SON

1/05/2020 03:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great job Officers. The Police and citizens thank you.

1/05/2020 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems a little excessive. Why didn’t he just shoot the knife out of his hand?

1/05/2020 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry OT

Anonymous said...Lori has floated the idea to the union of a 18% raise over 5 years but it’s back loaded as 9% over the last two years so no retro, in return swiping is dead. This is going to be part of the arbitrators decision. Hope you young guys didn’t spend your retro checks yet.





B effing S!! This is a strait up headfake. She thinks we are stupid. We agree, and she will just bring back the swiping anyway. Don't fall for it.
Take the money AND don't swipe.

1/05/2020 06:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to second guess anyone and not knowing the totality of the circumstances, this force mitigation stuff is gonna get someone killed. One of our own from the 015th District was permanently injured and sufferers tremendously on a daily basis after practicing that lesser force on no less than an active drug crazed active assailant high on PCP attacking a uniformed female Officer in broad daylight on a busy thoroughfare.

Her fears were real. She dismissed lethal force as an option fearing she would be tried and crucified by our impartial press, so called academia, agenda driven "innocence projects", copa and criminal codling politicians. Trying to play nice almost got her killed. Do not get sacrificed on the social justice altar attempting to appease the ruling political class and their accomplices by putting your life or another's life in peril.

1/05/2020 06:32:00 AM  
Blogger Baby"G" said...

Why the Rush to produce an on-scene review of the OIS on the scene? The previous OIS press conference was a disaster! In addition to Deputy Cato's news conference being taken over by an alleged relative of the deceased; his analysis of the incident is in conflict with the Medical Examiner. The M.E. has ruled that incident a Homicide, since the deceased was struck by police bullets, something Cato omitted, either because he did not know, or he was part of a Blue Wall of Silence Conspiracy. In this most recent OIS, the Rush to news conference, on scene, allowed for a Community Organizer to receive as much time as the Exempt. This time, the deceased, was well known in the Community, and suffered from Mental Illness. So it appears on the South Side, it is acceptable, if you have Mental Illness, to do armed robberies unabated. The Media is not a Friend. Make them drag their asses and equipment to a secure location, and speak what you know for sure. They will always find witnesses who will say you shot "dat po brother down like a dog, in da screet", no matter where you conduct you news conference. But the rush to produce on-scene press conferences, is attacking CPD credibility, again. So far for 2020, the Merit Exempt have already lost half of the news conferences. The conflict with the M.E. in the first OIS shooting of the year, is going to come back on all involved. Stay Strong! Baby "G"

1/05/2020 06:53:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

004 kicks butt again.

1/05/2020 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At this rate 1/2 the force will be in call back in short order. COPA excited by the early opportunities to jam up the street cops. They really hate you

1/05/2020 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At this rate Little Girl will have writers cramp from all the checks by the end of March.

1/05/2020 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a retired cop I recall a training video of a person armed with a knife and a cop with his weapon holstered. The guy with the knife was 20 feet away. On signal the guy with the knife was to attack and the cop was to draw his weapon. The guy with the knife was on the cop before his weapon could be completely drawn. Less than leathal force first and you'd be dead. Good job officers, be safe.

1/05/2020 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Phil the Thrill said...

About 15 years ago a mental with a 8 or 10 inch blade knife came into the old 23rd district station with a knife and attacked an officer on the citizen side of the desk. Snubbie to the chest bang bang no more mental. Took relatives from seattle to Harrison street police station to show them how we house the homeless: in our police stations!!! Detroit had shotgun attack at police station and saw another firearm attack on a cop show. Bank tellers at Chase are protected by bullet proof glass as are suburban police stations. Desk people in chgo are sitting ducks in this criminal friendly city.

1/05/2020 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic for those who can’t do math:
Regarding retro confusion......3% per year over 5 years vs. 9% in year 4 and 5
Say you make $100k.....year 1 retro is $3,000. Salary now $103’000
Year 2 retro is 3% of $103k. is $3,090 plus $3000 for year 1 Salary now $106,090
Year 3 retro is 3% of $106,090 is $3183 plus $3090 for year 2 plus $3000 for year 1...salary now $109,273.
Total retro THIS way is $18,333.
Salary bump at year 4 takes you to $112551 and year 5 takes you to $115929.
LL wants no raises for first three years.....screws everybody, including all retired guys
Then in year 4 you get a bump of $9000......to make salary $109,000......with no retro....
Then year 5 salary gets another 9% bump of $9810.....salary now $118,810
DONT FALL FOR THIS!!FIGHT IT LIKE THE TEACHERS!

1/05/2020 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

great work officers you did a great job and you are safe
also depending on how many years on the cpd there are alot of great suburban illnois police departments you can lateral

1/05/2020 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They were out of pizza at the jail........shame on Dart!

1/05/2020 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Victim stated y’all didn’t have to shoot him, it wasn’t that serious . Unfukin believable!!!

1/05/2020 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

those tasers sure are reliable.

1/05/2020 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Beck, how come Freddy Waller is the mouth piece for your Department. How about being front and center on these attacks on police. Your getting paid big bucks to run this shit show. Stand up for the officers and blast the Community regarding this type of violent attack on your officers. You're peddling bullshit about crime is down as directed by the pearl wearing imp at Shitty Hall. Is your manhood in LA or did you bring your pair with you to the killing fields of Chicago. Five days into the new year and nothing but chaos. You and Freddy just keep talking the bullshit line that crime is down. The longer you stay here and do the bidding of the imp, the more shit you have on your shirt tail.

Your reputation as a successful Police Chief in LA will quickly be overcome by your failures in your short stay as Acting Superintendent of Murder City.

1/05/2020 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

1/05/2020 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another genius bringing a knife to a gunfight! Glad the P O's are OK. Thank you for what you do for the law abiding citizens of Chicago!

1/05/2020 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chief of Patrol Fred Waller = lots of mentions in print
Interim Superintendent Beck = practically ZERO
Hey, just why is that?

1/05/2020 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you all read the Sunday scum times? Today they hit the trifecta. Front page story of the new liberal, son of radicals San Francisco prosecutor being idolized by Cabrini Kim’s main cheer leader, cop hater extraordinaire, pos Matt Hendrickson. Second story by pro Lori, pro Toi Hutchinson, pro recreational marijuana cheerleader hipster douche Tom schuba giving free advertising and listing the addresses of the upcoming pot shops so lori can get more tax dollars to take care of the permanent victim class. And the icing on the cake was the anti trump, factually incorrect editorial by chief pos of the scum times racist white hating Nykia Wright and friend and main ass licker of Lori Chris Fusco. The paper and all it’s advertisers must be immediately boycotted.

1/05/2020 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Always Remember:
London Bridge Terrorist Knife Attack (2 KILLED!)
Yes, he WAS wearing --what appeared to be Explosive Vest--
Subdued by CITIZENS, Killed by Police after exposing Vest
Polish National grabbed Tusk off the wall @Fishmongers Hall
and shit-rammed this murdering piece of garbage before
Approved Personnel used Ballistic Tactics to Neutalize.

1/05/2020 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And to think... YouTuber JonTron mocked, MOCKED!, edged weapon threats which law enforcement might encounter.

Surviving Edged Weapons - JonTron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFn495_Xsr0

1980s Canadian police training VHS tapes notwithstanding...

1/05/2020 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good job to those who did what needed to get done.

1/05/2020 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emboldened criminal ‘community’ members never disappoint.

1/05/2020 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TASERS ARE DEFINED AS LESS THAN LETHAL FORCE!!
A KNIFE IS A DEADLY WEAPON....PERIOD
STOP PUTTING YOURSELVES OR OTHERS UNNECESSARILY IN HARMS WAY.
If an offender charges at you with a knife, You’re screwed trying to deploy a taser on them.
I know we’re all taking use of force classes, And always last resort is the use of deadly force. However the offender will dictate by their actions what weapon we should display or use When put in harms way. In other words a knife is lethal match that with your SideArm.
Remember rules #1,2, and 3 On this job. Go home safe, go home safe, and go home safe!!!

1/05/2020 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds just like the scenario we had inthe use of force class. Good Job !

1/05/2020 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now look for COPA to screw over the Officer under the direction of Lightfoot and the Race baiters!

1/05/2020 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pass a law banning all knifes over 3”. That will put a stop to these incidents.

1/05/2020 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad officers are ok. Let’s remember no matter whether you like someone or not back each other up!

1/05/2020 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Send the activists in to resolve the situation... show us. The police are society s scapegoats.

1/05/2020 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Attention COPA,I have used a Taser and have seen other Officer's Deploy them in the Summer they work maybe 50% of the time in the Winter 30% of the time.Rialmo did His Job And got Screwed.

1/05/2020 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If you all worried as much about doing a good job instead of your contract the city would be crime free. Stop all the moaning and do something about it. Throw out the FOP leaders ASAP. Stop paying your dues, it is legal to do that you know the SCOTUS ruled on it. They secretly vote themselves a raise and you all just sit there, those POS work for you make earn their money. Your being had like a bad internet scam.
1/04/2020 10:33:00 PM

#1 it was not a secret vote for the raise. If you got in a car and drove trot the hall for a meeting you would have been there when it was voted on. You could have voiced your opinion, but then again you would have to been involved and attended a meeting.

#2 go ahead and go fare share, its your right. When you do get jammed up for any infraction or need a lawyer for a statement, dig up that jar of coins in your back yard cause you do not get a lawyer from hall. FYI it cost $10,000 just to hear a grievance.

1/05/2020 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happy New Year !!!!!

1/05/2020 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the fuck...everyone we encounter is a fuck'n MENTAL !!!!

1/05/2020 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry But when did the department start putting officers on 30 day desk duty for Taser deployments???
Asking for a Friend? ;)

1/05/2020 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7MAO7McNKE


Former Chief, Milwaukee.

Volume starts out bad but he gets P O'ed at "community" and the comments are telling!
(at 1:15, question is asked, if you want to save time.)

NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.

1/05/2020 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O333hrs . Let a knife wielding offender attempt an attack on any politician and that offender will receive a dirt nap with a free medical exam from local M.E.
Do the mayors bodyguards carry a taser , bean bag guns , are all wearing the required body cameras ?
Investigative reporters please respond .

1/05/2020 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why were the police even there, he only had a knife. Well he learned the hard way do not bring a knife to a gun fight, you will lose every time. LOL

1/05/2020 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You say good shoot but really counts is what COPA says.

1/05/2020 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do not become a dead hero
Offender uses hands , use baton , asp , pepper spray or taser
Offender uses knife 🔪,baseball bat , pipe , gun , immediately cancel the threat with deadly force
Remember a choke hold is considered deadly force , use force necessary to overcome that threat .
Go home to your loved ones protect yourself and partner .

1/05/2020 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:00am-You raise a valid point, the media will begin to elevate the offender to sainthood. This is now part of the journalist's tactic perfected by Carol Moron, the creator of the Legend of Laquan McDonald.
12:05am-Another valid point is our inept State's Atty. is ready to indict any Peace Officer in order to garner community support for her limp reelection campaign. Stay safe Sisters and Brothers as the forces of evil conspire to return Foxx to another term. Don't become a pawn on this political chessboard.
HEY FOP-When will you become proactive and counter these constant attacks on righteous police work? Your efforts since meeting the President's plane this past October have been nonexistent.

Retired .38 spl+P

1/05/2020 01:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic
How many CPS student attended school on Jan 2,3, 2020?
How much tax payers money was wasted by paying teachers ,office staff ,lunchroom staff and how much food was tossed in garbage ?
What connected company ,sweetheart deal , has the breakfast,lunch and afternoon snack for the CPS kids who have parents that refuse to prepare breakfast at home and pack a lunch for their children. Or should I say source of extra income ?

1/05/2020 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The best line in the Trib article was when it was reported that the knife bearing offender, was in "GRAVE" condition, when he was transported to the hospital where he as pronounced dead.

He certainly was in "Grave" condition, other than the formaldehyde transfusion.

1/05/2020 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grand Crossing? That the District where Alll the bosses kids go. Very hard to bid there. It’s safe and ya see a little bit of everything.
Hard to believe

1/05/2020 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Been noticing quite a few officers clearing houses with taser out instead of a GUN.

Is this some new training i didnt review on the intraweb? seems a bit dangerous looking for burglar with a taser...

1/05/2020 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One officer had a taser, the other had a gun.
I see no problem.
If the guy dropped the knife and still acted the fool, taser.
If attacks, gun.
If the officer was 99, then gun over taser....
All I see is the good guys slept in their beds and the bad guy was on a slab.
Good job officers.

1/05/2020 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic for those who can’t do math:
Regarding retro confusion......3% per year over 5 years vs. 9% in year 4 and 5
Say you make $100k.....year 1 retro is $3,000. Salary now $103’000
Year 2 retro is 3% of $103k. is $3,090 plus $3000 for year 1 Salary now $106,090
Year 3 retro is 3% of $106,090 is $3183 plus $3090 for year 2 plus $3000 for year 1...salary now $109,273.
Total retro THIS way is $18,333.
Salary bump at year 4 takes you to $112551 and year 5 takes you to $115929.
LL wants no raises for first three years.....screws everybody, including all retired guys
Then in year 4 you get a bump of $9000......to make salary $109,000......with no retro....
Then year 5 salary gets another 9% bump of $9810.....salary now $118,810
DONT FALL FOR THIS!!FIGHT IT LIKE THE TEACHERS!

Thanks for clarifying.
1/16

1/05/2020 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JVD encountered a subject with a knife. Look at the outcome?

1/05/2020 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barnaby Jones used to wing everybody in the arm

1/05/2020 05:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got there too fast he could have been gone. The community don't care if their own are kilt just when cops do it. When it comes to these community dude calls, drive like you're in a Chevy Vega and have the sight of Mr. Magoo.

Ya see it's a sad story, he was on his way to buy some pot and then on to criminal loving Atlanta where as long as you don't stop, they won't chase. Now if pot were free this poor lad wouldn't have had to have robbed someone. So it's the fault of the city and them cops. So sue dem!



1/05/2020 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Baby G flashback: Rush
As in "Bobby Lee '3-Times' Rush" ?
I learn something new about Bobby everytime I
'Anthony' him.
Married 3 times. It's that Federal Lifestyle, my man.
It's quite redundant to ask if Bobby Rush ever carried a knife,
is it not? Ambassador without portfolio, indeed.

1/05/2020 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously can't believe that "back in the days of normalcy" we would take the 79th Street bus all the way from Kedzie to Rainbow Beach. Probably wouldn't be a good idea now.

1/05/2020 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the community agitator, Mr. goodwill declares himself a witness,
and immediately starts talking stupid.
What a surprise.
Those 3rd hand suits ain't foolin anyone.

1/05/2020 06:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Chief of Patrol Fred Waller = lots of mentions in print
Interim Superintendent Beck = practically ZERO
Hey, just why is that?"

Hey, because Waller is the next dupe to be Supe.

1/05/2020 06:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about having all community mental cases wear a special uniform. That way people would be aware they are nuts and or dangerous.

1/05/2020 06:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok this is driving me absolutely crazy! This is why we need FOP FIELD REPs with experience! Why did this officer not go directly to the hospital asap!!!

Why did the FOP Field REP. (Garza) not immediately recommend that his officer go to the hospital!

This group of field reps has absolutely no clue how to protect officers!

This happens ALL the time.

Do yourself a favor and your coworkers! Go to the hospital ASAP...a shooting is very stressful. Go get checked out, get your medication. Go home and meet with the FOP lawyer and talk to COPA in a couple of days!

Please, you can only hurt yourself by staying on scene and making statements!

1/05/2020 06:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“ Been noticing quite a few officers clearing houses with taser out instead of a GUN.

Is this some new training i didnt review on the intraweb? seems a bit dangerous looking for burglar with a taser...”

Only been on 6 years, and that was absolutely not taught to me in our academy. And absolutely not taught to me by any officer I worked with while on status. Maybe it’s something very new? Or maybe just some dumbasses who think think a taser is effective when really at best it’s 50/50. Not smart whoever is doing that.

1/05/2020 06:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At a time when horrific terror could hit us in an instance you’d think the department would pre-emptively call for the immediate display of our long guns in areas of potential targets. Hey dummies we are at war and wide open and without guidance.

1/05/2020 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are more Chicago citizens who approve of this action than disapprove. Totally justified lethal force, applied appropriately. THANK YOU BLUE!!!

1/05/2020 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thanx for the laugh ---- barnaby jones, coffee all over the keyboard.

1/05/2020 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One with taser one with gun you see no problem. To bad your not on COPA willing to bet they see a problem. Citizen dead is a problem for them they want to jam someone for the shooting. Looking for scalps especially with two shooting so early in the year. Yea world is a better place with the POS on a slab, but, not to them. Little Girl has check book in hand just waiting to fill out the amount.

1/05/2020 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Worked 421 for awhile, U can believe I don't miss it!!!

1/05/2020 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barnaby Jones used to wing everybody in the arm

1/05/2020 05:34:00 PM

I liked Granny's style better, fetch me my shotgun Jethro.

1/05/2020 10:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
If you all worried as much about doing a good job instead of your contract the city would be crime free. Stop all the moaning and do something about it. Throw out the FOP leaders ASAP. Stop paying your dues, it is legal to do that you know the SCOTUS ruled on it. They secretly vote themselves a raise and you all just sit there, those POS work for you make earn their money. Your being had like a bad internet scam.
1/04/2020 10:33:00 PM

#1 it was not a secret vote for the raise. If you got in a car and drove trot the hall for a meeting you would have been there when it was voted on. You could have voiced your opinion, but then again you would have to been involved and attended a meeting.
I’ve been to the board meeting representing a charity. They throw everyone out for executive session when the do this stuff. If this is not a secret and your in the know PLEASE LIST THE ROLL CALL OF THE VOTES.

#2 go ahead and go fare share, its your right. When you do get jammed up for any infraction or need a lawyer for a statement, dig up that jar of coins in your back yard cause you do not get a lawyer from hall. FYI it cost $10,000 just to hear a grievance.
Comment #2 is spot on

1/05/2020 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Great work and I’m glad we all went home safe.

I just really hate to hear about cops using less-lethal options when encountering subjects armed with deadly weapons.
The typically accepted “kill zone” of an edged weapon is 21 feet.
So you actually have to put yourself 30% INTO the offenders kill zone in order to attempt to use a less-lethal option, that only works half the time under optimal conditions.
Happy to hear the cops are all well, but please let’s think about our safety and only take the risks that are necessary.
Those numbers aren’t favorable for us, and we always like the odds to be in our favor.
1/05/2020 01:13:00 AM

You need to forget all that garbage about the "Tueller Drill", . That dude(Sgt.Dennis Tueller) watched too many ninja assassin films back in the 1980's. Skill set means a lot. Are you going to shoot a grandmother with a steak knife 21 feet away or a crackhead with a pocket knife 21 feet away without any other reasoning other than what some wannabe book authority wrote 40 years ago ? You can get a free room next to JVD if you do. Pull your head out of your ass. As a cop the biggest risk you take, is just driving around. Best to realize what are fatal threats, and what just might take getting dirty and/or slightly banged up. Can't defend yourself from a pocket knife and got to shoot somebody if the taser might not work? I don't need you as a cop in my country.

1/05/2020 11:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Beck west coast and McCarthy east coast are buddies now. Gerry showed him the Rush street bars were he can drink on the arm.
Is this Beck guy for real ? What the fuck does he do. Unless drinking with MCcarthy he is never seen.
Acting Supt my ass. Typical worthless left winger from Nut land California. All the big changes of brass is total bull shit. No one demoted and a few retired as normal as can be.
Waller might as well get the job, he is the only visible high ranker on TV.
Staples is shitting her pants with the rumor she is gone last month. Yea, gone to Florida to get some sum for 2 weeks.

1/06/2020 01:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It ended as it should have. Bad guy down, good guys go home safe. Good job Officers to bad it won't earn you a merit spot but those are saved for the connected cheaters.

1/06/2020 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1/05/2020 Baby G is right on. Fuck the media and the rush to give a presser. If you have to do it do it at HQ. The media is not your friend, they are the enemy

1/06/2020 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all the Monday morning quarterbacks, naysayers, activists, handwringers, snowflakes, etc., one principal remains constant in situations such as this....The circumstances dictate the response, and the bad guy dictates the circumstances. Period.

1/06/2020 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Off Topic for those who can’t do math:
Regarding retro confusion......3% per year over 5 years vs. 9% in year 4 and 5
Say you make $100k.....year 1 retro is $3,000. Salary now $103’000
Year 2 retro is 3% of $103k. is $3,090 plus $3000 for year 1 Salary now $106,090
Year 3 retro is 3% of $106,090 is $3183 plus $3090 for year 2 plus $3000 for year 1...salary now $109,273.
Total retro THIS way is $18,333.
Salary bump at year 4 takes you to $112551 and year 5 takes you to $115929.
LL wants no raises for first three years.....screws everybody, including all retired guys
Then in year 4 you get a bump of $9000......to make salary $109,000......with no retro....
Then year 5 salary gets another 9% bump of $9810.....salary now $118,810
DONT FALL FOR THIS!!FIGHT IT LIKE THE TEACHERS!

Thanks for clarifying.
1/16

1/05/2020 04:51:00 PM
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Pay raises and retro checks for currently active officers have absolutely no affect on retired cops.

1/06/2020 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You need to forget all that garbage about the "Tueller Drill", . That dude(Sgt.Dennis Tueller) watched too many ninja assassin films back in the 1980's. Skill set means a lot. Are you going to shoot a grandmother with a steak knife 21 feet away or a crackhead with a pocket knife 21 feet away without any other reasoning other than what some wannabe book authority wrote 40 years ago ? You can get a free room next to JVD if you do. Pull your head out of your ass. As a cop the biggest risk you take, is just driving around. Best to realize what are fatal threats, and what just might take getting dirty and/or slightly banged up. Can't defend yourself from a pocket knife and got to shoot somebody if the taser might not work? I don't need you as a cop in my country.

The concept of the "Tueller Drill" remains valid. Display of a weapon (and yes, a knife is a deadly weapon) does not ALONE justify the use of deadly force: ability,opportunity and jeopardy must also be considered. I would bet that Sgt. Tueller has acquired more training and knowledge than you ever will. If you work in LE, please get some training and learn and understand your department's Use of force policy, as well as the law.

1/05/2020 11:38:00 PM

1/06/2020 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Been noticing quite a few officers clearing houses with taser out instead of a GUN.

Is this some new training i didnt review on the intraweb? seems a bit dangerous looking for burglar with a taser...


The next step in that training is for the officers to exit, then politely request for them to come out Then just wait for the bad guy to appear

1/06/2020 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Been noticing quite a few officers clearing houses with taser out instead of a GUN.

Is this some new training i didnt review on the intraweb? seems a bit dangerous looking for burglar with a taser...


The next step in that training is for the officers to exit, then politely request for them to come out Then just wait for the bad guy to appear


It’s usually with female officers either they are behind you without weapon in their hand or they pull tasers and you have no choice but to pull out handgun. I can’t tell you how many ties I asked people during House clearing “ where is your gun?” Crazy shit these millennial kids don’t get it, all the want is Starbucks and a ride on a pink unicorn.

1/07/2020 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That police officer that used taser put his life , his partners life and all citizens life in danger by using the taser .
If that violent man grabbed Officer gun , many could have been murdered.
Never use a taser when deadly force is required to end a threat of death or great bodily harm .
Officer should be required to take deadly force training again .

1/07/2020 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...I don't need you as a cop in my country..."

Thanks for chiming in Barack.

1/09/2020 06:36:00 AM  

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