No Chasing - Ever
- Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields sent out a department-wide email notifying officers that the department will no longer chase suspects.
Shields cited the risk to the safety of the officers and the public for each chase, and “knowing that the judicial system is largely unresponsive to the actions of the defendants.”
[...] “Please know that I realize this will not be a popular decision; and more disconcerting to me personally, is that this decision may drive crime up,” Shields said in a memo announcing the change. “I get it.”
Read that again carefully. Chief Shields seems to know exactly what's what and which way the wind is blowing, and she's laying it right at the feet of the judicial system not holding anyone accountable.
Guess who else is noticing the failures of the system?
Guess who else is noticing the failures of the system?
- Chris Rich, who has lived in Atlanta for about five years, was trying to make sense of the policy decision Friday afternoon. “This is pretty drastic,” he said. “If I’m a criminal, it’s open season. It’s going to impact all the law-abiding citizens. It’s worrisome.”
He understands where Shields is coming from, though, and wishes the police department felt more support from other agencies. He knows several police officers and worries about morale.
“We’ve got these guys working hard, trying to make our streets safe, and then you’ve got this revolving door with these repeat offenders,” Rich said. “I just cannot understand why the mayor’s office is not putting more pressure on the DA’s office or the judicial system. There needs to be a unified front.”
Two words of advice for Mr. Rich - and everyone else in lib-tarded areas of governance (like Chicago):
- Gun
- Up
The police cannot protect the individual - they are actively being restricted from enforcing the laws as written. You are responsible for your own safety. Police respond after the fact with a report. Get a gun and learn to use it properly.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
67 Comments:
Just switched from a S&W Shield to a P365. Merry Christmas to me. I wouldn't live here without one.
Good luck: when you are attacked at night, hardly anyone else around, and you are strapped.
Bad luck: mutha fucka busts into your home.
Shoot and scoot = good luck.
Shoot, stay and have to dig a fucking hole = bad luck.
Do the best you can, with what you got, and fucking have something.
Groot and the Guardians of the LGBT community are effectively out to protect criminals and steal from the tax payer. Load help us all as the RevRuns say on Sunday moanin as they too steal in the hood and later go back to their homes in suburbs
She had no choice. Why should she expose her city and her officers to expensive adverse legal action. Until the courts gain some sanity it is not worth the risk.
To the city, the Department and the officers.
And you really can't blame them.
Good luck pounding that through the thick skulls of all the young hard charger's.
This is wholly attributable to the SJW liberal democrat
progressive and perpetually aggrieved community take-over
of Policing and the judiciary in the name of
"correcting past racism."
In truth, it's actually:
"The Peoples & Folkses Finally Get Revenge."
The enforcement of laws governing Public Order,
Public Peace and Public Safety along with legal
sanctions for breaching those laws have been
rendered null and void by activist state's
attorneys/district attorneys/judges and
willfully ignorant, deliberately obtuse
and intellectually disinterested juries.
"Permission-Slip Criminality" ensues...
Agree with her or not, the Atlanta chief has the most
balls of any modern era "Police Executive" for telling
it like it is and putting policy in place to protect
Policemen and their families from being ruined because
some conscienceless hard-dick flees arrest by means of
a motor vehicle and maims/kills an uninvolved innocent.
Watch for MSM to make much hay about:
"Police Now Refusing To Do Their Jobs"
Just like MSM stirs up outrage when conscienceless
hard-dicks maim/kill themselves and innocents
while fleeing from The Police.
"Cop Chase Kills Family Going To Bible Study"
And everyone is tantalized, titillated and feels
a tingle when the involved Policemen are summarily
lynched from the public opinion/public outrage
lamp post in the name of "accountability."
Heh...
What the fuck y'all THOUGHT was happening out there?
Heh-Heh...
Who gets hit with the accountability shit stick
regarding "Permission-Slip Criminality" now being
the rule in America's liberal democrat progressive
controlled urban centers?
Nary a judge, state's attorney or district attorney
has any worry about being savagely lynched from the
lamp post of public opinion/public outrage like the
Policeman has been.
But there will ALWAYS be this:
"Police Reform Needs To Happen
Hard, Fast And Right Now"
As for The Police?
They DIDN'T break it...
It's beyond them to fix it.
No matter how hard mayors, city councils
and craven/failed/lick-hitting/carpet-bagging
Police Executives bluff, bluster and bullshit
about having answers/solutions.
Especially when those answers/solutions pivot solely
on Policemen being considered a disposable utility.
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
Officers will attend training on how to wave goodbye to those who break laws and ordinances so as not to hurt the feelings of the criminal.
Political, nothing more. The change comes after last month's deadly crash during a chase that killed two men. The teens were wanted for carjacking a man at gunpoint at an ATM. They refused to stop and drove through an intersection, slamming into another vehicle. Both men in that vehicle died. So they were armed and carjacked someone but now they won't chase them. And the victim of the crime says why did I even call.
So just let them go, let everyone go as long as the elitists still have their security details in place. Erica/Eric, the criminal's friend. Chicago needs this fool to complete the Groot Squad. It's about safety. Now that the thugs will know that they can jack, rob or even abduct a child, rape or murder and no one will even chase them, indeed it's a safety issue, the lack of it and for the emboldened criminals a license to do more crime. Pity they don't ever crucify the people that are running and driving like manics. They may be driving that way before the chase and after it's terminated. But only the cops are blamed for instigating the chase never the idiot that runs.
The Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police committee on pursuit report noted that most of the pursuits last less than five minutes, more than 30 percent end because the officer terminates, and chasing officers typically have Less Than 4 years of police experience. The young coppers still tend to be the folks chasing in Chicago too.
My wife’s liberal uncle has decided to conceal and carry. People... liberalisms death is at hand. This came about after 3 incident in his town which feral chicagoans have kidnapped people, molested people, and outright murdered people. His town is New Lennox. His daughter was shot at on the expressway. During the past year. Needless to say, his daughter and husband plans to leave Groot and The Guardians of the the LGBT community and high tail it between their legs to the upper peninsula Michigan; and yes after all that torture which was worse that what McCain went through— they are on the Trump Express. That’s what happens Groot... unleash mongrel people on innocents they eventually move out of dodge
It’s a great thing to inform the ‘public’ that chases will cease. Now they will be more comfortable with their carjackings, smash-n-grabs and bolting out of stores with armfuls of expensive merchandise. That’s news I can really use!
Step 1, no chase.
Step 2, give up your guns
Step 3, abolish police force
This coming your way folks part of the Democratic master plan. Finally they want a global UN peace keeping force to police the world. Obama hinted at it, and Soros is funding it. Welcome to the New World Order.
Any CCW holders who blast criminals to death, when those criminals try to harm them on the street or bust into their homes, won't be chased by law enforcement either.
That seems fair all around. In the long game, that will make for a DROP in crime.
Georgia courts, the metro area ones anyhow, have gotten more liberal on criminal justice matters in the past two decades. This is part and parcel of bad Democrat policies in effect.
This just reignites the debate for those who conceal carry: 10mm vs 45 ACP?
Ah yes might come with some unintended consequences. The CCW will have their way with the criminals now since they know that the police are no longer allowed to protect them. Popcorn time in Atlanta. Garrett, should be expanding there. Can you say private security forces?
CCW licensees don't have to chase crooks either! A 9mm from a Glock can speed ahead must faster then any human runner can move which eliminates the need for a lawful person to chase down a baddie. Just stand in place and aim...
The hand writing has been on the wall for some time , now its official policy "fetal" Mr Rich has a front row seat to watch his city like many large population centers end up like Baltimore, Detroit, Gary and on the way Chicago. Demographic, economic changes and currents will turn these places into something like "Escape from New York" governed by war lord/street gangs
Thank heaven you live in Chicago where mattes are safe!
How long before this enlightened policy flows to all the other Democratic strongholds? Baltimore next, then Newark, Austin, Seattle, San Francisco, LA and finally Chicago after new Superintendent is in place. Your the only thing between Soros plans and total chaos. Stop voting his minions into office. Throw Kim out next election and follow that up by defeating Prickwrinkle.
Atlanta sucks.
Very similar to Chicago.
That policy will be here in no time.
When are the CNN watching masses finally going to realize the left is out to destroy our country?
All going as George Soros planned a few years ago. https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/george-soros-criminal-justice-reform-227519
VOTE, people.....VOTE.......time to drain every LOCAL swamp of those who will not follow their oaths......
Atlanta.....Chicago, NYC, SF, LA, Portland, Detroit, Baltimore.....every city the DEMS have control over.....
Yes, it’s unfortunate that there are too many black and brown in jail. However, it’s also unfortunate that too
many black and brown are out there committing these heinous crimes, victimizing mostly their own people.
1100-terminate
1190-terminate
On view crash in Cicero, weapon recovered!!! Nothing to see here.
Let's face it.
The logical conclusion to this is abolishing the police.
This is just the first step.
Next will be removing the emergency lighting from police vehicles because you know "I'm triggered" or something....
We are turning into the "haves" who can afford private security for protection and the "have-nots" the rest of us....
That takes Georgia off the retirement list. That cancer will spread.
It’s called Rabbiitt season!
And the citizen is the Rabbiitt!
Live up in 16th district and watching how violent crime creeping north every morning!
Do not chase is the answer. Do the report but do not chase.
End of police work is here.
Instead of throwing the proverbial 'baby out with the bathwater,' why not just come up with a law that says any vehicular fleeing from police is mandatory up to 1 year sentence in addition to or regardless of the sentence outcome of any other or original offense.
Include an enhanced penalty if the fleeing results in property damage (+ 6months) or injury, (+ one year) added on and most importantly... ENFORCE THE PENALTY.
I know it's a pipe dream on my part, but it's typical liberal thinking to abolish or reward an illegal act than to enforce or incarcerate to eliminate.
Here are the facts: A pursuit only ends in 1 of 3 ways,
1. the driver stops
2. the driver crashes
3. the driver runs out of gas
The question to ask then is,
1. will my department back me if people are injured, including the suspect? NO
2. will I be liable for any injuries, including the suspect? yes
3. is an innocent persons life worth catching someone most often wanted for a misdemeanor offense where Crimesha would just let them off anyway? No
Don't chase ever!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good luck: when you are attacked at night, hardly anyone else around, and you are strapped.
Bad luck: mutha fucka busts into your home.
Shoot and scoot = good luck.
Shoot, stay and have to dig a fucking hole = bad luck.
Do the best you can, with what you got, and fucking have something.
1/04/2020 12:12:00 AM
Yeah... Being compelled to forcefully repel boarders
from the sovereign ship of home does pose a lot of
potential problems.
Clean-up and the disposal of the carcass(es) of the
dead hyena(s) who rudely intruded upon you.
Not to mention that it is very likely your protesting
of said intrusion is quite noisy and generates a LOT
of attention and concern...
It's a good neighbor, who knows how to STFU
when righteous dirt has to be done.
That's where being good friends with your adjacent
neighbors and being all in on a mutual aid pact...
After folding dead hyena(s) into a Hefty Steel Sack,
transport to a far off forest preserve would be in
order. Don't forget the lime...
Every man, according to his conscience and that in
which he has hope of standing before his Maker
awaiting favorable judgement.
Yeah... Do the best you can but do SOMETHING
to protect yourself and your household when
danger intrudes.
The Police will NEVER get there fast enough
though they DO try.
Does that mean the police can't chase vigilantes either? Even if they use their illegal bump stocks? Has this been thought out? Demorats amaze me.
The police cannot protect the individual - they are actively being restricted from enforcing the laws as written. You are responsible for your own safety. Police respond after the fact with a report. Get a gun and learn to use it properly.
Labels: dumb ideas, out-of-state
The city's solution will be to revoke or suspend the offender's license, that'll teach them...
Do your homework when voting, NO DEMOCRATS
Don't foot chase, don't car chase, don't stop anyone (racial profiling).Just answer your radio and go to your call. Not worth it. Be safe and God Bless!
Unpopular or not, it’s still smart for reasons mentioned.
The family of the savage who threw the kid out of the window is blaming the Salvation Army. They (Dude) are not to be blamed for anything. Don't chase, don't arrest unless there are signed complaints.
get a gun, know the law and obtain private liability and legal insurance. I am retired PO and I carry all of the time in the suburbs. I used to carry only when I went into the city, but things are getting worse out here in the south. I also carry mace in my car. Yes, the police cannot protect you and the thugs know it. In some of these suburban communities you will find only 2-3 cars on the street at night and they are on the main roads playing the traffic raising money for the mayor.
Good for her. Put the blame where it should be. Hope she can keep her job long enough to make something happen, but I doubt it. Those liberal Democrats are “dug in deeper than an Alabama tick”
Obama's Revenge
Retired & Token said:
I love this Chief, she's hilarious.
Look at the wording of her statement:
"...this decision may drive crime up,”
Get it?
No vehicle chase will "drive crime up."
This new weed is great!
I think some of you are missing the point. She is very publicly stating, “this is what you want, you got it. Let’s see how it works out.” Good for her!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good luck pounding that through the thick skulls of all the young hard charger's.
No luck needed down there. If the CPD has an order stating “No Chases” and you chase, you will be fired. That’s not Chicago where a phone call will save you
And how about the 3 time loser mope who swiped
the fruit flag from a church in Iowa, burned it
in a strip club parking lot and got 16 YEARS in
the joint. Truly bizzaro world
When you read this think about your family.......think about what you have put on the line.....think about your commitment to a specific way of life and the people you cannot associate with because of your commitment to this job/career/watt of life.... Think about what you have to do on a daily basis in this career that others are incapable..... or unwilling to do......
How many times have you heard from people you know "I could have been the Police but my spouse wouldn't have it,,,,,,I make too much money in the career I already have,,,,,,,, they couldn't pay me enough to the job of a cop.......I have to spend holidays with my family instead of working,,,,,,,I could never miss my child's birthday,,,,,,,,I have a summer house and I would never be able to get that time off to enjoy it,,,, Think of the insults you take from citizens along with those from friends and family behind your back. Think of the arrests you make to save those who ridicule you, the dangerous situations your put into by those who despise you.......
But when they have a question or a "what if scenario" they call you....
Let them all smoke legalized weed, they may and try to smoke it in front of your face just to prove they canv and to upset you,,,,,,,, that's fine.......just remember this there are things other people can do that you cannot and that's fine, but also remember
You are a professional Chicago Police Officer, you keep people and property safe, you help those in need, you do what others can't and won't do in a split second and you deserve to be paid as one.
Groot Pay Us The Money
Problem is that the same people who allow criminals freedom also go bat sh!t crazy over law abiding people who own or use guns in self defense. Anyone who dares to use a gun in self defense is in serious danger of prison time and especially so if the gun is used preemptively.
This is a deliberate, shrewd political move. And it very well may work as intended. Let the city burn, all the while gazing wistfully at the prosecutor’s office.
Sadly enough, this seems quite reasonable.
I retired from another police agency following an on duty collision. Going to a call, not a chase, and no donut run involved, but still a collision. Following two years of the agency saying I was fine, they finally did the decent thing and retired me. Numerous spinal surgeries and 20 years later, I’m on pain meds until I die.
If the “justice” being served is probation or similar, don’t bother. Don’t get hurt for nothing. It’s not worth it.
And after crime and violence explodes, maybe some people will remember that as a free citizen, the person most responsible for their own safety is themselves.
Maybe.
"and high tail it between their legs to the upper peninsula Michigan"
Come on up, you'll fit right in. I did it almost 40 years ago, you'll be at home.
The most lightly populated Michigan counties have concealed carry licensing rates of 30%+ of the eligible adults. An armed society is a polite society and we are a very courteous bunch.
Our police have quiet lives.
Huh?
"Tha' Communerty" isn't happy about The Police
not chasing anymore?
The ACLU, Police-chasing/Ghetto lotto funded
lawyers and various Police oversight groups
aren't going to be happy about being starved
of money and free publicity.
Hopefully "No Chasing - Ever" becomes a
nation-wide thing in democrat run cities.
"Gun" "Up"? They seem to be getting the message. I've been a Concealed Carry instructor in the South Suburbs, since it was finally made legal in this God forsaken state.
After every high profile shooting incident my phone starts ringing. Last month, after a church shooting I got calls from two Lutheran churches for training. One included the Minister. Since the Texas shooting Monday, three more calls from local churches.
Roughly 60% of my 300+ students have been middle aged women.
More and more, otherwise "progressive" types are starting to realize that, no matter how fast you guys can get there, they have to be their own "first responders" as far as crime and assault goes. Stay as safe as you can.
"We are turning into the "haves" who can afford private security for protection and the "have-nots" the rest of us....
1/04/2020 07:52:00 AM"
Well, if ya gotta pay someone else to protect you, that is on you.
Reality only bites when you don't have the means at hand to bite it first.
Make anticipation your friend.
Be the surprise to the miscreant thought it would be to you.
Or get bitten, repeatedly.
Your choice.
She's a spineless political tool. They already had strict policies on chases but that wasn't enough for the liberals. Did they blame the armed teens that carjacked the man and refused to stop? I wonder what race they might be?
Politics can be a touchy subject in Atlanta. A city long known as a blue dot in a solidly red state. Gots to follow orders, bend into a pretzel like they do in big city on the lake. She's a gay female, what can you expect from a chief like this, tough on crime policies. Last year Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms announced that the city was ending its relationship with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). I hope this turns out to be a disaster. More folks will move to the burbs. Peachtree City and such places.
Perhaps the Groot could lure her to Chicago? Just keep on the move criminals and all will be well in Hot-Lanta.
So this pos comes into 11th district desk pulls gun points at officers and is scuffled with?
Man 'voicing disdain for law enforcement’ pulls gun inside West Side police station
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-police-station-guns-20200105-5al5timhpbd7pghl6xllsp77si-story.html
This fuck should be in the morgue,and yet he bit a copper I understand the fear many coppers have but this insanity will get coppers killed!
Policing is extinct. Take your clipboard,your pen, and your paycheck and go home and love your family
Three words:
1) Vote
2) Out
3) Democrats
Every. Last. One. Of. Them.
Then go grab that POS Soros, put his ass in prison forever, and seize all his assets.
Today, a Crackhead showed up at my neighbor's medical clinic. He said that he would kill her if she didn't give him some Oxy. Three different citizens pulled legal firearms and held him for the Cops. Distance is the only answer.
Thank you ACLU for implementing that the criminals are the victims and the police are the offenders. Stop with all the mental illness BS !!!!!
Anonymous said...
"...Be the surprise to the miscreant thought it would be to you.
Or get bitten, repeatedly. Your choice."
1/04/2020 06:25:00 PM
-Handy Dandy Compact Large Bore
Shit-Knocker-Outer-
Ronco® would make a killing, in more ways than one.
Backward undefended,society has always failed throughout human history. Might makes right, the only thing tyranny can not defeat. Examples WWII, Japan, Germany, Italy. Our strength and constitutional freedoms are what keeps the U S A #1. Here's the oath millions of us have taken in military and law enforcement. It still applies: I, (state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend theConstitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. (So help me God)." To weaken our values, resolve, and our principles of law and order is a recipe for failure and disaster.
If the police don’t do the jobs, you will see much more vigilante action by citizens, in other words, lots more pay back crime. Which may be a good thing.
No foot chase, no car chase, no nothing. Just let the criminals run amok and see where that gets you. People are going take law enforcement into their own hands, because the government and officials have literally allowed criminals to take over and do what they want.
This is the social justice reform Obama pushed and put into motion. We are on our own people.
I'm beginning to think the gangs are gaining control of crime prosecution at all levels in the cities. There's no reason anyone would announce this other than to telegraph to her fellow members it's open season all while sounding reasonable to the rest of the people. Well, you reap what you sow...
Suspect wanted in Child Sex Trafficking Kidnapping vehicle sighted are you really not going to chase?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Suspect wanted in Child Sex Trafficking Kidnapping vehicle sighted are you really not going to chase?
If there’s an order stating no chases, no I’m going to follow him until he can be taken into custody
I see where you are coming from because if you don’t chase and grab the suspect he may disappear and never be seen again. And if he has the victim with him and you chase him he can can run at 100 mph, crash kill himself and the victim along with maybe a few additional innocent victims
Now there is a rash of cargo thefts of semi truck trailers at the oases on 294.
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