Rescue a What?
Everywhere in Illinois, these are classified as pests. We understand you don't even need a hunting permit to kill them and there's no bag limit. They routinely slaughter pets and as far as we know, the only good they do is keep the skunk population manageable. So why risk a first responder for this?
- Emergency crews rescued a coyote from Monroe Harbor in downtown Chicago midday Tuesday, authorities said. Marine unit officers responded to a marine distress call regarding an animal in the water in the 100 block of North Lake Shore Drive, according to police spokeswoman [...]. Two animal control units also responded.
Fire Department crews were dispatched to the area about 11:20 a.m. to help with an animal in the water, said Fire Department spokesman [...]. Fire crews rescued the animal, said fire spokesman [...]. The animal could be seen on a stretcher, wrapped in a blanket, next to Monroe Harbor on Tuesday.
Chicago Animal Care and Control took possession of the coyote....
They got two Animal Care and Control units? A few weeks ago, there were two pit bulls chasing children and ACC told dispatch there were "no units available" which left the District with one option - kill the dogs. The entire watch was looking for thirty days desk vacation within moments, but both dogs disappeared.
It's just as well - ACC kills a majority of the animals it takes in and pretty much 100% of the wild ones.
It's just as well - ACC kills a majority of the animals it takes in and pretty much 100% of the wild ones.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
76 Comments:
I’d rather risk myself helping a coyote than risk myself for some police-hating, ghetto mutt, any day. At least the coyote may appreciate it.
Wow, we can't even get marine units to respond to humans in the water on midnights. That coyote got the red carpet treatment for sure.
There needs to be more animal and control officers. Especially now a days!
You don't get a 30 day administration time-out for animal destruction.
E Gads. What else is the flotilla to do in the in the weather interregnum?
Any video?
“So why risk a first responder for this?”
Silly copper. It's a huge public relations win for CFD.
rb
Most of the time we respond to a person down or a medical run, dispatch says fire isn't rolling at this time but yet they send out trucks for an animal..I guess we see now who takes precedence. Your even lucky if ACC answers the phone let alone them coming out!!!
They probably thought it was a dog until they got closer. Can't just let it freeze or drown at that point.
Should've just got a rifle trained officer. After all the .223 was developed to kill coyotes.
ACC is a fucking joke in Chicago. If you’re a private citizen, and you have a rodent problem, just poison everything. It will be better than calling ACC and waiting weeks for a response. The city has like 3 ACC people working Monday-Friday, 9am-2pm. With a 2 hour lunch. Don’t waste your time ever contacting them.
so your good with letting the coyote drown??!
File a 3-1-1 Complaint against the entire ACC department.
FFS...Last time I saw an ACC Van on the Northside it was near Forest Glen and Cicero, taking care of a Deer that got snagged on someones fence.
This was over a year ago.
They don't do shit. But get paid almost as much as a PO.
I'm guessing it's hard to see what exactly is swimming when only the head is above the water line. So, you go in and pull whatever it is out and see its a coyote. Do you now throw it back in the water? I think not...
Are you kidding me. Yes there is a reason CFD loves to save animals, it excellent PR. The hero fireman blah blah blah blah blah.......
Coyotes Suck almost as bad as every Mayor Chicago has had for the past 40 years.
Two ACC units showed up to the coyote in the water?? Where did those two come from. There aren’t two ACC units working at the same time EVER in this city. Now, all of a sudden, they found two ACC - I call BS.
Was the Coyote Ugly?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Happy they rescued a coyote! I wouldn’t mind helping out some animals. Why??? Because fuck people!
Nothing but dust bunnies coming out of that box.why give it up flying domestic.no crime to have it in your baggage and won't be checked at your destination.
We have coyotes in our neighborhood and they look like mangy dogs. Seeing a dog in the water, I can understand that until they got it to Animal Control they may not have known it was a coyote.
i'll take wiley e. over a skunk politician any day.
too bad fair game isn't fair game.
COYOTE LIVES MATTER!
At least this time it didn't require a helicopter...like the last time. Dumb.
With the many criminals disappearing some with their fellow criminals in filled to capacity stolen SUV's and those pit bulls that chase little Children disappearing , Chicago seems to be the Real Magic Kingdom.Alot of disappearing happening.Unfortunately Violence,murder,maimining,theft,hate,
corruption doesnt.
They kill rats by the dozens and usually don’t interact with folks or peoples.
first came out as a body in the water
In the 70's my buddy drove an ambo for fire. They went on a call and arrived to see a 9 year old child devoured from her rib cage to her pelvis. Needless to say it disturbed him. Later, as a sort of therapy, they would turn off their lights at night, jump the curb on North Ave. and drive through the bushes in Humbolt park shooting the dogs they scared out of their dens. Those were the good old days. They got fired, but not for that. They were the fifth ambo to arrive at old Mayor Daley's doctors office. Somebody gotta fall for that one.
Coyotes and foxes are fine. Native canines. Help keep the rodent population under control.
Nice doggie.
To the very first poster, I agree with you 100%
Fire Depts. exist to do two things: Save lives (2 and 4-legged), and protect property. Some fire depts. are even learning how to do dog CPR, and equip with special oxygen masks to try to save animals lives. Whether ACC does their job, CFD did theirs.
Good look if you ask for ACC on Friday night, they'll arrive Monday afternoon. Pitifull.
Hate to get bit by a coyote or shoot at it.
"The animal could be seen on a stretcher, wrapped in a blanket..."
lol! Gotta love this sanctuary city! I'll bet animal right activists attempted adoption and placement. All of this on the taxpayer dime. Ill bet they even waived the ambulance fee.
Open season on coyotes. No permit required. Just shoot it.
It's just as well - ACC kills a majority of the animals it takes in and pretty much 100% of the wild ones.
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Coyotes make great vittles...yummy
I appreciate coyotes. They rid us of excess rabbits, chipmunks, mice. They ask for nothing in return.
Coyotes are protected by the state. That is why Animal control wont come out for them.
It's true that acc kills all of the wild animals and the "dangerous" dogs too.
If a pitbull or rockwilder is brought to 27th and western it's a death sentence, even the pups.
Can’t eradicate the real pests, so we will just take it out on defenseless animals and go home feeling the pride that we made the world a better and safer place to live in.
CFD responds to animals in the water because if they don't and a citizen goes in to rescue, the shit hits the fan for all of us.
ACC live release rate (adoptions, returns, rescue pulls etc) was 92% for 2019. Even allowing for some massaging of the figures by the City that's not too shabby.
And surprise surprise, most of the stray dogs and cats destroyed at ACC come in from two sections of the city because the humans there don't give a damn about them.
I love this blog because it tells me what's really going on around here in these times of fake news. Keep up the good work and to the boys and girls in blue, God bless you.
Personally, I get more satisfaction helping animals. The four legged ones that is.
Coyote on a stretcher? I'd like to see that.
it's training That's Why, Remember the Chicken saved by CPD ?
Should've just got a rifle trained officer. After all the .223 was developed to kill coyotes.
1/08/2020 03:17:00 AM
No it wasn't. It was for military use. Who told you that bullshit? It's not even remotely believable.
And now the rescued has free housing, a link card, and medical.
Typical.
It's because that coyote was given the vote, and its vote counts as much as yours.
Wrong! Not that I don’t agree that they are pests but coyotes are a protected species in Illinois. You can’t just go around shooting them with “no bag limit” if you don’t want to pay some hefty fines. Bad advice, SCC.
The coyote must have been riding in one of those ACME boats.
Maybe coyote will take over for Alderman Burke, would be a big improvement. While in the water did it get, uh, the tuna?
Out west, that coyote would have just made for an easier target.
Waiting for the day that some fire rescue member dies trying to save a wild animal.
14,828 dogs and cats came into CACC in 2019 (an open door shelter meaning they don’t turn strays and owner surrenders away). A thousand more than 2018. Less than 9% were humanely euthanized. Give a little credit, where due, to the employees and volunteers that work tirelessly to make that happen. The city is too busy lining their pockets to hire sufficient paid staff. It’s no different than those who blame the police for the murder rate in Chicago.
Lots of retired guys I know control the skunk population too, does that make them Coyotes?
You know who you are :)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I’d rather risk myself helping a coyote than risk myself for some police-hating, ghetto mutt, any day. At least the coyote may appreciate it.
1/08/2020 12:15:00 AM
AMEN Brother.My sentiments exactly.
Uncle Lar
Anonymous said...
You don't get a 30 day administration time-out for animal destruction.
1/08/2020 12:56:00 AM
No, but now it is almost the same exact steps as shooting a person. Dic's come out, ET, Street Deputy, Lt.,Sgt. IAD comes out and gives you a piss test. Use of force report, case report, Inventory.
It used to be a missle X just 17yrs ago.
The Fire Department performs water rescues on animals as a preventative measure. Without the response, a citizen will attempt the rescue and wind up a victim themselves. Removing the animal from the water protects a civilian life or two. This is the reason for the Department's policy.
~Cognoscente
It's true that acc kills all of the wild animals and the "dangerous" dogs too.
If a pitbull or rockwilder is brought to 27th and western it's a death sentence, even the pups.
1/08/2020 09:39:00 AM
A rockwilder? Jesus fucking Christ. Maybe you can drive down there in your Dodge Entrapment to adopt a rockwilder or a chewawa.
As the Wily E. Coyote was being placed on the stretcher and wrapped in a blanket, nearby was a Roadrunner watching through binoculars *MEEP! MEEP!*
That same coyote they pulled out of the lake just bit a 5 year old boy outside of the zoo today. That coyote has been seen limping during the day time hunting for food the past week in 018, 019 and 001. Animal control said they can't do anything with the animal because it's protected.
In the 70's my buddy drove an ambo for fire. They went on a call and arrived to see a 9 year old child devoured from her rib cage to her pelvis.
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But did she survive ???
Disagree with the coyotes are pests statement. As far as ACC, I’m sure they do they’re best. Called on them several times throughout my career, sometimes they show, sometimes they don’t. But when I dealt with them they did their job.
Coyotes in little village all hours at the discount mall 26th kkkand Albany. Coyote will not bite and he will sell you a set of fake I.D.’s at coyote prices.sanctuary city for coyotes too.
https://fox32chicago.com/news/boy-5-bitten-on-the-head-by-coyote-in-chicago-fire-officials
“So why risk a first responder for this?”
Silly copper. It's a huge public relations win for CFD.
rb
1/08/2020 02:30:00 AM
so your good with letting the coyote drown??!
1/08/2020 04:20:00 AM
See what I mean?
rb
im out in the burbs now. we are over run with destructive wildlife. i looked it up once, in the peoples republik of hellinois you cant shoot trap or relocate anything. rules and permits, fines and restrictions. enter the coyote. the coyotes keep the pests down including the damn racoons that will take your house apart to get in in winter. i keep my yard very coyote friendly and they have plenty to eat. they seem to be afraid of humans and i only see them late at night when no kids or pets are out. sounds like a solution for the rat problem in the ghetto. viva coyote.
12:15am, totally agree,'
Per the Illinois Dept of Natural Resources Regulations (https://www.dnr.illinois.gov/adrules/Documents/17-550.pdf)
c)Coyote and Striped Skunk 1)Hunting dates: Year around except as noted in Section 550.10(a). 2)Hunting hours: One-half hour before sunrise to ½ hour after sunset, except from the opening date of the red fox and gray fox hunting season through March 15, when statewide huntinghours are unrestricted, and except during archery deer season when coyote and striped skunk bow hunting hours shall coincide with the statewide archery deer hunting hours, as specified in Section 2.26 of the Wildlife Code. Hunting before ½ hour prior to sunrise or after ½ hour after sunset is a Class A misdemeanor with a minimum $500 fine and a maximum $5,000 fine, in addition to other statutory penalties, except when hours are unrestricted (see 520 ILCS 5/2.33(y)).3)Daily limit and possession limit: None.
The "exception"
Section 550.10 General Regulationsa)It is unlawful to hunt raccoon, opossum, striped skunk, red fox, gray fox, coyote, bobcat and woodchuck (groundhog) in counties open for deer hunting during the firearm deer hunting season as specified in 17 Ill. Adm. Code 650.10, except coyotes may be taken by persons in possession of a valid unfilled firearms deer permit during hours and seasons specified in 17 Ill. Adm. Code 650.10 using hunting devices authorized by 17 Ill. Adm. Code 650.30. Violation is a Class B misdemeanor (see 520 ILCS 5/2.30).
Coyotes are NOT protected.
Hunt at will.
These are the three animals to hunt year-round (or nearly year-round).
1. Coyote
Open to hunt all year long in Illinois, coyote can be hunted on public or private lands. According to Prairie State Outdoors, between November 10 and March 15 they can be hunted 24 hours a day, the rest of the year hunting time is restricted to 30 minutes before sunrise to 30 minutes after sunset.
Of course, a hunting license and species permit are still required and hunting is closed during the weekends of firearm deer season except for those with unfilled firearm permits. Nearly any weapon including bows, rifles, shotguns, and even handguns can be used depending on whether the hunter is on public or private property and dogs can be used on private property. There’s no limit to the number of coyotes a hunter can bag.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Should've just got a rifle trained officer. After all the .223 was developed to kill coyotes.
1/08/2020 03:17:00 AM
No it wasn't. It was for military use. Who told you that bullshit? It's not even remotely believable.
1/08/2020 10:39:00 AM
The .223/5.56 NATO cartridge was based on the .222 Remington, which was introduced in 1950, and was the first rimless .22 (5.56) made in the U.S. It propels a 40-55 grain bullet at velocities of 3,000-3,500 FPS. It is known for it's accuracy, and is used as a "varmint" cartridge at short to medium distances.
About 10 years ago, the Lincoln park zoo and another group released 35 radio collared, breeding pairs of coyotes in the city to track their movement. A couple years later I followed a pack of them running south on Michigan ave at 0300hrs. They turned and headed to the lake.
I like coyotes. They help keep the rodent population down and the raccoons as well. I like to see them around. Cats, on the other hand ...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wrong! Not that I don’t agree that they are pests but coyotes are a protected species in Illinois. You can’t just go around shooting them with “no bag limit” if you don’t want to pay some hefty fines. Bad advice, SCC.
Wrong. From the Ill DNR regulations:
FURBEARER TRAPPING AND HUNTING • Coyotes can be hunted 24 hours from 10 November through midnight on 15 March.During the rest of the year, hunting hours for coyotes are 1/2 hour before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset. • Hunters need a hunting license and habitat stamp unless exempt.
Coyotes are nuthn but a rabid mange wild dog a complete nuisance!When you aget home late and park your Rubicon and go let your labradoodle out only to be torn up by a coyote you will realize they need to be rid of.!
I’m a CACC Officer. We have 4 vans up M-F from 0800-2000 and none from 2000-0800. Weekends is worse usually a skeleton crew and if someone calls in or has to be at the desk it’s down to zero. For injured or wild animals you can always call the Illinois Conservation Police. They have 8 CPOs assigned to Cook County and they are on-call to come out after hours to assist.
CLM Coyote lives matter, CPD isn't allowed to chase criminals but tonight they spent hours chasing a couple of coyotes that bit a
kid-That be raciss.
Chicago Law doesn't permit coyote hunting
Wrong! Not that I don’t agree that they are pests but coyotes are a protected species in Illinois. You can’t just go around shooting them with “no bag limit” if you don’t want to pay some hefty fines. Bad advice, SCC.
Wrong. From the Ill DNR regulations:
FURBEARER TRAPPING AND HUNTING • Coyotes can be hunted 24 hours from 10 November through midnight on 15 March.During the rest of the year, hunting hours for coyotes are 1/2 hour before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset. • Hunters need a hunting license and habitat stamp unless exempt.
You are right. Confusing that they are protected by the state, but you can hunt them year around. Illinois can screw up everything
The .223/5.56 NATO cartridge was based on the .222 Remington, which was introduced in 1950, and was the first rimless .22 (5.56) made in the U.S. It propels a 40-55 grain bullet at velocities of 3,000-3,500 FPS. It is known for it's accuracy, and is used as a "varmint" cartridge at short to medium distances.
1/09/2020 10:20:00 AM
Fantastic. It is used as a varmint cartridge. Nothing in there says it was developed for killing coyotes. And you won't find anything saying it was developed for killing coyotes, because it wasn't. It was developed for military use, and was then used by the military. If you actually believe Remington devoted time and money to developing a specialized ammo just for killing coyotes, you are even more clueless than I originally thought. Just because ammo has been used for a certain purpose, doesn't mean it was designed solely for that purpose, or if that purpose was even remotely considered during the development of that ammo. Now run to wikipedia to try again.
"...so your good with letting the coyote drown?..."
Yes I am. By the way there cupcake, it is "you're". You would be the first to cry if the coyote ate your foo foo dog.
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