Wednesday, January 22, 2020

Retroactive Crime Increase

We always ask this one and we always get a multitude of answers - what year does this one go under?
  • A 41-year-old man died last week nearly 10 years after being wounded in a West Humboldt Park shooting.

    Just before 10 a.m. Oct. 12, 2010, Marco Rainge was shot in the 1200 block of North Kildare Avenue, according to the Cook County medical examiner’s office.

    Rainge was pronounced dead about 1:45 a.m. Jan. 14, the medical examiner’s office reported. An autopsy Sunday said he died of complications from multiple gunshot wounds, and ruled his death a homicide.
We need a definitive answer so that the crew over at puts it into the correct year lest the bean counters attempt to hide yet another homicide.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

This should be held to the same rules of cancer. 7 years, you survived, and anything after that is a new infliction. "Complications and failing health from previous inflictions" could be the term, but not specifically "due to...". We need baseball. February sucks entirely.

1/22/2020 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless it has changed recently, it gets counted in the year of the incident. 10 years ago. I know you guys are against that policy, some ways the city hides facts is ridiculous but honestly some delayed fatals are ridiculously counted as homicides. I recall a quadriplegic that died, one of his many causes was chronic alcoholism and hypertensive disorder, but it was a Homicide. His death was about 24 years after the fact.

1/22/2020 04:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So far the YTD murders from 2019-2020 is homicides are up 8 from Thai same period last year or 44%. It’s the first January in 4 years where January has been higher than the year before.

1/22/2020 05:33:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

I guess there was no hurry.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

1/22/2020 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous W.H.Thompson said...

Hey SCC,

This happens at least a few times a year and our policy is to place it in the year of the incident, not year of death. This prevents us from counting teenagers who were shot in the the 70s, 80s or 90s being counted as homicide victims today and skewing current year stats (in our opinion).

The worst one we recorded was a chap who was shot in 1970 and passed in 2014 or 2015. The ME declared it a homicide due to complications from a gunshot wound. Surprisingly, no one was in custody.


1/22/2020 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This has been ongoing throughout the years. I did work on the homicide desk for the Det Dv at HQ, retired now. Homicides were always counted by date of death, whatever the circumstances. Just like you can have a person shot on Jan 15th, but dies on Feb 5th, the homicide is counted in February’s numbers. This does get extended to those cases where years go by before the victim dies. There were some instances where an offender was arrested and charged with agg batt, convicted, and served time, only to be arrested and charged with murder after the death. Double jeopardy didn’t apply because it was a different charge. Now, if I remember correctly, in 2016, when the homicides were spiking, I think the city wanted to go by the date of the incident rather than the date of death. I couldn’t say if they followed through with that plan, but it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s what happened. These delayed deaths that extend into years are controlled by the medical examiner’s office when they list the cause and manner of death. If they rule sepsis/homicide, the case must be re-classified as a homicide from whatever it was classified originally, which is why the date of death “should” be the determining factor in counting the homicide.

1/22/2020 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't the shooters now be charged with murder?

1/22/2020 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If he died before midnight Dec 31 2019 last year. If he dies after that this year, how hard was that? But I have always wondered, is there any follow up on those shot and in critical condition. If one of those die are they automatically counted as a homicide? What is the notification process.

1/22/2020 02:53:00 PM  

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