The "C" in CIT (UPDATE)
The "C" stands for "coronavirus" if you work on the west side:
- in 11th district they are trying to mandate CIT officers to be the coronavirus response team officers
We thought CIT stood for Crisis Intervention Team. We apologize for this misunderstanding
We're told Commander HUD Fraud is trying to change the day off groups of CIT trained officers so there are imaginary "teams" that have some sort of magical powers to respond to coronavirus incidents, all while having no gloves, no respirators, no Haz-Mat suits, no sanitizer and (most importantly) no training in biological contamination mitigation.
UPDATE: This is citywide? What brain trust came up with this shit?
Hey FOP, how about a 5% differential for CIT people like the Fire Department gets for specialized training?
We're told Commander HUD Fraud is trying to change the day off groups of CIT trained officers so there are imaginary "teams" that have some sort of magical powers to respond to coronavirus incidents, all while having no gloves, no respirators, no Haz-Mat suits, no sanitizer and (most importantly) no training in biological contamination mitigation.
UPDATE: This is citywide? What brain trust came up with this shit?
Hey FOP, how about a 5% differential for CIT people like the Fire Department gets for specialized training?
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
79 Comments:
"How can I self aggrandize during a crisis
so as to line myself up for yet another
undeserved promotion?"
Oh great... Another "Hey look at me, I'm thinking
outside the box" nitwit...
But for being so damned toxic AND dangerous,
they would actually be somewhat amusing.
When certifiable dunces are given the keys
to the vehicle of rank and authority, the
predictable end result is good people being
ground to disposable human hamburger under
the wheels in furtherance of the dunces goals
and ambitions.
Protect yourselves from THEM.
Give them NOTHING with which they
can hurt YOU and YOUR FAMILIES with.
I’m so glad I didn’t take that training.
CIT officers have absolutely no training to do anything with someone sick with an unknown contagious virus. How fucking stupid! Typical
There’s nothing a CIT trained officer can do that a non CIT officer can’t. One big $cam. Follow the money
What could go wrong?
FUCK COMMANDER HUD FRUAD he’s a fucing joke with his greedy cheating azz
It's not only in 011. It's all CIT trained officers. 004 had to compile their list of officers too
They already did this in 7. There are designated officers assigned to the team to extract and remove people (I say kidnap) who don’t want to go to the hospital if infected by Wuhan virus. What could go wrong
Same for 010. CIT officers are being made part of the incident response teams. It must be coming from someone/somewhere else.
This is why I have little respect for almost all in command. That sham of a Commander has no business being a Commander. How anyone can openly abuse the HUD program and climb the ranks is a disgrace. Then on top of it, he wants to make a mark in his Command tenure by having an utterly stupid idea that I’m sure he thinks is brilliant.
I'm thinking the "C" should stand for the "C" in "CFD." This is Chicago, and I'd expect a lot of financialy brittle businesses to get a bad case of "Corona Lightning." And, with not many businesses being open, where's an offender to go to find victims to stick up? (See, I remember my CAPS triangle. This is the old 'I.R. number in search of a location code' problem) Oh, and BTW, notice how it took a pandemic to knock Blago out of the headlines here.....
Training and equipment do not always equal brains...
https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2020/03/17/3-highland-park-paramedics-in-quarantine-after-possible-coronavirus-exposure
How many paramedics does Highland Park have? How many can afford to be in quarantine? Oh, and don't forget that Highland Park also handles the fire/emt service for neighboring Highwood - since Highwood closed up their fire dept...
This is a clusterfuck in the making. All of these EMT's ought to be in level 4 biohazard suits when responding to calls until this shit is over.
I heard SWAT will be handling calls that involve covid-19. Lucky them!
“We're told Commander HUD Fraud is trying to change the day off groups of CIT trained officers so there are imaginary "teams" that have some sort of magical powers to respond to coronavirus incidents, all while having no gloves, no respirators, no Haz-Mat suits, no sanitizer and (most importantly) no training in biological contamination mitigation.”
If that’s the case, why not let community members run the CIT program in their own neighborhoods? You know, like Safe Passage. Tio can head it up. With the liquor stores closed, they’ll probably be looking for something to do.
They will talk the virus right out of them! Kinda like an exorcism!
We have no training or equipment do deal with this kind of situation. What are CIT members suppose to do? CIT respond to mental calls that’s what it was designed for. Are CIT officers suppose to expose themselves to people who have the Coronavirus and spread it to other officers? The Department should be giving Coronavirus tests to officers to make sure they have not been exposed ( Proactive not Reactive)It only takes one being infected causing mass amounts of officers being exposed. Who will be on the street then? Leave it to CFD trained professionals. Why do we even respond to overdoses? CFD members on scene don’t even know why we are there, meanwhile we are fighting a back log.
Now is the time to permanently stop with the homeless camps in the stations, permanently, give them the address to ACLU offices and point in the direction.
I love the dept’s response so far... every one in uniform! Let’s create some teams be prepared for canceled days off and 12 hour shifts! Let’s create some response teams but not give our members and resources to handle situations.
Then you have Dart and Prickwinkle saying they are going to relesase almost all CC Jail inmates. How about they just treat people instead of send them back out in public to rape and pillage.
Can the command staff be that dumb? I guess I am that dumb for asking the question.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
so who is going to file the grievance?
And they wonder why no one wants to get CIT trained. A good idea with good intentions, piss poorly executed and then improperly used on the street. I don’t think you learn anything in CIT that a copper won’t learn in a few years on the street. With that being said, CIT sure as hell doesn’t offer any kind of training let alone expertise in the field of communicable diseases. This is one of the dumbest ideas I’ve heard come from a department filled with almost exclusively dumb ideas.
And in suburban news:
Police Won't Respond To 'Low-Level' Crimes During COVID-19 Crisis
Oak Forest police said they won't respond to minor incidents to protect their officers from the coronavirus spread.
https://patch.com/illinois/oakforest/cops-wont-respond-low-level-crimes-coronavirus-crisis?utm_term=article-slot-1&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter
Be safe out there, my brothers and sisters.....
The leadership of this city and this department is failing......
They need to call on FEMA and IEMA for the equipment needed NOW.....
Masks, respirator masks, protective clothing, gloves, sanitizing cloths.....
There are stockpiles of this.....but the city MUST ASK FOR IT.
And they also better start getting that National Guard ready.
And why did you volunteer to take that course ? Dummies !!! You don’t EVER volunteer for anything on this job !! Oh that’s right, you didn’t listen to the old timers did you ? Lol
Commander HUD FRAUD couldn't figure out how to get himself out of a paper bag let alone make a decision regarding this virus. So glad I retired and got the fuck out of Shitcago. Good luck brothers and sisters, put youselves and your families first.
Better get ready for every CIT officer getting infected and not coming in. Hey, silver lining? We get to go home and quarantine before everyone else! Maybe a crafty lawyer could get a lawsuit against the city/dept. going for singling out CIT officers and unnecessarily putting THEM in danger when their training has NOTHING to do with the crisis at hand. Hey FOP you got anything on this??
Want some time off? Go on a virus call and self quarantine. Simple as that. You might have to take the test but that will buy a few days off. If negative go back to work the rinse and repeat.
POOR LORI
The city and our lovely clownish exempt could make a program like this.
make it like special employment.
Have trainer go to open locations for training (McCormick place/ )
Pass out actual equipment to protect the officer mask/face covers glove plastic throw away suit.
Pay hazard pay/ overtime.
10 hour shift stage them at all 5 areas!!!
Or pay everybody for 12 hour shifts lowering officer immunity making them tired and exposing them for longer days in the filth stations and squad cars.
When asked if I was interested in CIT training years ago, I reverted back to lesson #1 that pretty much everyone learns in the Military.
Signed, Non-CIT Trained Officer
why the fuck would you extract a sick person...maybe wait outside and grab them if they bees going for a stroll....
I’m sure they can use the medical Dr. working now a LT. and we have plenty of nurses and medical techs who have applied to work the front lines.
E-Learning certifies you a CIT/biological expert handler. Same pay as p.o. though. I refuse to be CIT certified. Why don't they send "DCO" and CAPS out too, since they love engaging the communerity in times of crisis.
First it's in every district. They want a list of 20 people that are preferably cit trained and taken from all Dog. So that there is an incident team available everyday. They will get extra training as well as extra equipment.
Taking care of the families of first responders is a big responsibility, you are the front lines of crime fighting and now fighting to help people with disease. With the family we have many police officers, and firefighters doctors and nurses in the family. We take care of the first responders in the hospital settings, yes this blog is very informative, we appreciate everything you do just like people appreciate the doctors and nurses. That being said we are talking in the hospital about all the closings, restaurants and all of the rest but yet the strange thing is why are the marijuana dispensaries wide open selling marijuana to recreational users who use it just to get high? Why do I say this here is why because we have patients that come in with diseases that use the marijuana with a medical card because they are diagnosed with a medical illness. Now we have patients that are getting there immune system compromised due to going to the dispensaries buying their medical marijuana but being subjected to the recreational users, who are coughing sneezing and everything else around them in very close quarters.
They say to keep a social distance which is 6 feet, you’re going to these dispensaries they keep about 4 inches apart which is ridiculous and will cost more and more of this disease to spread. We have talk to the governors office but that is falling on deaf ears just like the mayors office what is it about the Texas a medical weed I’m sorry the taxes on recreational weed that they will not stop this at least for a period of a month or so. They say they make so much money on the medical marijuana but yet they wanna gorge themselves under recreational marijuana where is a text money going anyway this is a health crisis so they say! The media is being quiet about it or as you say on this great blog crickets.
No matter what the family will always take care of our first responders we need you guys God bless you may God Almighty God hold you in his hands prayers for all of you and your families in these difficult times! Thanks for all you do.
cfd has all the right equipment for the virus. send them.
What exactly is a Coronavirus incident?
How about a 5% differential for dealing with the stress of departmental incompetence.
" This is citywide? What brain trust came up with this shit? "
Same group which cannot fund a pension fully. Shocked?
This proves the coronavirus is NOT the only game in town! The liberal stupidity virus has been infecting mayor American cities for years prior.
The "C" in Chicago
The "C" in Cop
The "C" in...........
How about asking the Illinois National Guard for some MOPP suits?
The stuff was designed for Chemical and Biological Warfare.
What do you think you are facing on the streets today?
Suit up, deal with the crises, then scrub the suits down with bleach, soap, and water before removing.
Absolutely ridiculous proposition the virus lease affects the youngest among us this those young’s on the job should be formed into response teams. Unless Groot is attempting to thin the herd of those who would collect a pension.
Fuck that. As a CIT trained officer I’ll say nope. That’s not a mental health crisis. The C in this case is for CFD. You know the ones trained for medical crisis and with proper PPE. Just another “idea” from the people who should not be in charge of anything because they don’t have a clue how to do anything.
Anonymous said...
This is why I have little respect for almost all in command. That sham of a Commander has no business being a Commander. How anyone can openly abuse the HUD program and climb the ranks is a disgrace. Then on top of it, he wants to make a mark in his Command tenure by having an utterly stupid idea that I’m sure he thinks is brilliant.
3/17/2020 01:52:00 AM
While we are on the subject of Commanders.
What is with the secretary for the commander of 620?
This girl thinks she runs 620 by herself and all business is approved thru her. She walks around the 2nd floor like she has been there for 20 years, and everyone must bow down to her. Well you may have been able to pull that attitude downstairs in 005 with 2 year kids, but you wont be able to pull that BS up in 620. Do yourself and the Commander a favor, change your Demeanor ASAP. Your walk up the stairs may have been easy, but your tumble down will be hard.
PS, make you distribute the PPE kits to ALL Detectives, and not just your friends.
National Guard soon
OK seen the stupidity of keeping dope dispensary's open, so I went to the 1 on archer while working to talk to the owners and ask why. He was nice he said they are waiting for direction from the state-city-county as they have not respond to calls and questions.
The police get called to the scene of incidents like fire would it not be nice to have the elected at least help prevent the spread? Come on closing gyms,restaurants and everything else but leave the petrify dishes open? hey jb,have you Lori,Toni went into that crowd to get your weed also? Your incredible either stupid or you want more sick and dying! Media are you awake or still in bed and controlled by the elected democrats?
What a JOKE !!!!!!
If you have the Corina virus, call your doctor, DON'T go to the ER, you will infect everyone in the ER. Call you doctor and stay isolated. Follow doctors instructions.
Remember when they were pushing hard on this training...... “it’s for your safety” “we can’t/won’t make you use it”. Lol. Dummies. If you believed that I have a nice mobile strike force t shirt I’m willing to sell you.
Exactly RIGHT!! Change the rules of responding to 911 dispatches..ONLY RESPOND TO PRIORITY 1 calls and NOTHING else! No reason to respond to these bullshit calls. If we respond to only actually priority 1 calls we wont have to worry as much about manpower...gee anyone think of that Lori?? Beck??? Most reports can be made through 311...let the idiots at call back work for once.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
why the fuck would you extract a sick person...maybe wait outside and grab them if they bees going for a stroll....
3/17/2020 09:52:00 AM
I’m guessing it’s to extract a dead person! Not a sick person! But they will never tell you that bc who the hell would volunteer for that!!
While we are on the subject of Commanders.
What is with the secretary for the commander of 620?
This girl thinks she runs 620 by herself and all business is approved thru her. She walks around the 2nd floor like she has been there for 20 years, and everyone must bow down to her. Well you may have been able to pull that attitude downstairs in 005 with 2 year kids, but you wont be able to pull that BS up in 620. Do yourself and the Commander a favor, change your Demeanor ASAP. Your walk up the stairs may have been easy, but your tumble down will be hard.
Sounds like 620 allowed this to happen. Being bullied by her. Not anyone must bow down to her, sounds like most do
LOL.
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/police-department-asking-criminal-activity-to-cease-during-coronavirus-outbreak
This is suppose to be done by swat! WTF! Why are CIT officers doing it? Swat has the training and equipment. Let them do it!
So we had to sign for a 4 oz hand sanitizer. Guess this is our PPE kit? As first responders we are now worth a travel-sized sanitizer? Guess we have to fight travel-sized problems?
Biden, he won the state.
Biden will be in bed at 11:30 PM tonight.
He'll eat 2 chocolate brownies and a saucerful of warm milk.
We got free shit sandwiches, Joe, anytime you want.
Buh, Bye.
Yes closing all restaurants,bars,and now gyms ,where there might actually be healthy people,but going ahead with an Election where hundreds of people stand in line within a foot of each other is some brilliant planning and foresight.Looking at the Governor of Illinois I could see that he probably was not going to have the best interests of the Physical Fitness industry in mind but whats the deal with the restaurants?Those would seem to be right up his alley to lookout for.The next order that is coming is the curfew and food rations.At the end of this massive fiasco who is not going to have a chair when the music stops?I would say that anyone in Office at all levels is done.This is a national and local failure as far as preparation and implementation of orders.
Here was the email sent to all bosses over the weekend:
Subject: Fw: Incident Control Teams.
All,
As part of the Department's COVID 19 Response Plan, the District's Incident Control Teams identified in Department directive BOPSO 18-07 will be an integral part of the department's response.
Incident Control Teams are currently identified within each District on each watch per BOPSO 18-07. The delineated officers will be the District's first line of response to calls for service that have been identified within the CAD system as locations that have a subject with a confirmed respiratory illness. The addresses are being updated daily within the CAD via OEMC.
Upon being notified for a call for service at an address that has been identified within the CAD system as having a subject who has a confirmed respiratory illness, members assigned as the District's Incident Control Team will be dispatched to the call for service.
A supervisor and members of the Incident Control Team will be assigned the call for service and respond to the location. Procedures and protocols are being identified and will be forthcoming shortly.
What needs to be accomplished immediately is that each District Commander must identify 20 officers on each watch with a minimum of 10 officers on each watch who are currently CIT trained. These Officers must be balanced across all day of groups for each individual watch and may not have a scheduled furlough during the 3rd, 4th or 5th periods.
These Officers are going to be provided training and equipment to assist the Officers in their response to calls for service involving respiratory illnesses.
It is imperative that we have identified each watches Officers no later than 15 March and the list of identified officers be transmitted to the Office of Operations no later than 0900 hrs 16 March 2020.
Just to clarify please ensure each Watch Operations Lieutenant identifies the following;
20 officers per watch.
The officers must be balanced across all day off groups as they will need to be delineated on the daily watch sheets each day.
A Minimum of 10 of the officers should be CIT trained, again these officers should be balanced across the day off groups as best as possible. At minimum every day off group must have at least one CIT trained officer.
None of the identified officers can have a scheduled furlough during the 3rd, 4th or 5th police periods.
The identified lists of officers needs to be transmitted to the Office of Operations no later than 0900 hrs on 16 March 2020.
Once identified, trained, and properly equipped these officers will be delineated each day on daily work sheets as Incident Control Team officers and utilized within the District as primary response officers for identified respiratory illnesses.
Randall L. Darlin
Deputy Chief
Office of Operations
This might help, if any one would like to check it out. Could work for CPD and CFD.
"With the continued spread of the coronavirus (COVID-19) across the nation, the Gary Sinise Foundation announced that it will have grants available to first responders in need of personal protective equipment when answering COVID-19 service calls. Financial assistance is also available to service members, veterans, first responders, and their families who have been impacted by the coronavirus. Read the Gary Sinise Foundation's announcement by following the link below. http://bit.ly/2Q1JC2N"
Medical weed can now be sold outside pot shops — while some stores halt recreational sales — as coronavirus fears hit cannabis industry
https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronavirus/2020/3/17/21184358/coronavirus-chicago-dispensaries-cannabis-medical-weed-illinois
This state is incredible the governor is really a pathetic piece of shit just like the mayor still allowing all of these recreational pot people to go inside dispensaries and the medical people will be outside getting it delivered in the car closing restaurants but yet still allowing potheads to get their drugs. As usual we live in an upside down world or Democrats are everything wrong they have no clue with this virus all over the place they should curtail selling recreational bullshit. So now you’re going to have people that need it patience Pulling up in their vehicles and having it delivered outside while you let the dopers Inside. So I guess that means let’s infect the employees right? Agreed how much are these politicians paid off to keep this place is open for recreational users? No common sense but then you know the governor and the mayor are protected completely geewhiz I wonder if they will visit some of these recreational facilities you know so they can get a taste of the year possibly have been hospitalized with a virus.
Spray some windex on it, you’ll be fine..
While we are on the subject of Commanders.
What is with the secretary for the commander of 620?
This girl thinks she runs 620 by herself and all business is approved thru her. She walks around the 2nd floor like she has been there for 20 years, and everyone must bow down to her. Well you may have been able to pull that attitude downstairs in 005 with 2 year kids, but you wont be able to pull that BS up in 620. Do yourself and the Commander a favor, change your Demeanor ASAP. Your walk up the stairs may have been easy, but your tumble down will be hard.
PS, make you distribute the PPE kits to ALL Detectives, and not just your friends.
3/17/2020 02:43:00 PM
Sounds like the Secretary in 384. Thinks she runs the place and always goes over the Sgts heads to the Lt. Complaining about stupid stuff. No wonder why 079 booted you out.
Maybe the goofs in area north cit team can handle it all? Only the best and brightest.
"As part of the Department's COVID 19 Response Plan, the District's Incident Control Teams identified in Department directive BOPSO 18-07 will be an integral part of the department's response."
Uhh, I am not trained as a paramedic or nurse. WTF!
"Or pay everybody for 12 hour shifts lowering officer immunity making them tired and exposing them for longer days in the filth stations and squad cars."
I was just a Department training where I was suppose to eat well, exercise, stay fit, and sleep well to have a good life balance to increase my ability to actively manage my bias.
Also, if I get this virus at work? Will the city fight me on the IOD?
Randall L. Darlin
Deputy Chief
Office of Operations
This guy is a clown. That’s your strategy? The clowns are running the circus.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is suppose to be done by swat! WTF! Why are CIT officers doing it? Swat has the training and equipment. Let them do it!
3/17/2020 06:27:00 PM
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SWAT is too busy sleeping. Shhhh. Don’t wake them up until it’s time to work out.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I heard SWAT will be handling calls that involve covid-19. Lucky them!
Let swat do it!
The stupidity of leadership in this department never ceases to amaze me.all gyms are closed off but in 016 community room used as a polling site exposing officers to large crowds of voters/ potentially carriers of the virus
I didn't want to do CIT, the city made me because I'm an FTO. now they are going to Force Me to be at extra risk, because they Forced Me to do CIT? no, just No!
The secretarial selections in 620 and 384 sound miserable, but the new district secretary in 004 has them beat. She says she is only there to be the commander's personal assistant and driver. She refuses to wear a uniform, even though every one else is ordered to, and shows up every day in her tight jeans and pony tail. The commander even confronted a sgt who showed up for work in a sweatshirt and swiped in, and he was told by the commander that he was out of uniform. Seems like his dolly is actually calling the shots. Her lips must feel like an industrial vaccume.
So we had to sign for a 4 oz hand sanitizer. Guess this is our PPE kit? As first responders we are now worth a travel-sized sanitizer? Guess we have to fight travel-sized problems?
Area North Detective Division each over site office was given a 4 oz hand sanitizer for each vehicle.
Hey looks like Rob Rubio still has his bad habits, messing with the help. Merit Sgt. Thanks to Jerry Negrete and LAPA and Merit LT. Thanks to Tony Escamilla...
Old retired guy here. If I couldn't get a freebie from the job, I would buy my own protective gear. You can't "show" city hall by dying for the lack of a few bucks. How many guys have paid big money for an assault rifle that they can parade around with? If you're that cheap, write it off in taxes.
3/17/2020 07:01:00 AM?
Sorry Bandida (?), not even an elbow bump until folks can say, "What virus."
Why is Commander HUD Fraud not fired? This dept. is the laughing stock of the country for real like the other Commander who was cashing his deceased mother's social security checks all those years too committing a felony every month cashing that check still laughing on his way to the bank collecting that big pension.
SWAT doesn't have the training for that, and the same equipment as is available to the rest of patrol
Bandida? As many people in here can attest to, I am one hundred percent male. However, I do suffer from the same gender identity crisis that the vast majority of north side men suffer from.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
The new secretary of the 011th district thinks she runs the district. Commander fraud can't get no one else to work for him as his secretary but NP. She has the worst attitude and she told use we can't get the hand sanitizer. No one wants to work for Commander fraud officers are leaving every chance they can get. He says he is not holding anyone back but he's a fraud and liar.
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