Un-F@#$ing-Believable
That copper arrested and charged with DUI following the "unsponsored" party that has cost at least one exempt his position....guess what else she's a part of?
If you guessed "a single employee beauty salon PPP loan for $8K" then give yourself a prize.
Labels: scandals, un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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LT V in 25 strong arming her roll calls into buying tickets though. Ridic.
Ratch. Vacancy in her district in 3,2,...
The slots have been killing me lately I’m about to get me a little PPP loan for more ammo, only takes one.
She got her hair did for the mug shot.
Don’t know who she is, but just saw her mugshot.
Is anyone really shocked by this PPP information?
It’s quite apparent that the rules don’t apply to certain segments of society.
If actually shows two for same amount with this note. “ ALERT: There are 2 PPP loans for a total of $16,666 in our database for businesses with the name "Tangie Brown" in Chicago, IL. This this is typically due to the same business receiving both first and second-draw loans, but may also include similarly named but unrelated businesses, multiple branches of the same business, mistaken multiple applications, or potential fraud. Click each loan below to see full details.”
Each loan has a different number and different date in April 2021. So she probably got $16,666.
Only $8 large?
Gee, is that even a year's worth of minimum wages?
You've got to wonder what Jennifer Koniarski is thinking right now.
"The behaviors and mens rea of a typical criminal recidivist."
Gotta get that butter whipped!!!
Those big white infiniti trucks ain't cheap.
She's an important business woman driving around in a brand new luxury Infiniti. Apparently her luxury car lacked factory navigation that's why she was using her phone for GPS, the one she dropped and was supposedly looking for.
I would love to see a breakdown of these ppp loan frauds by race....since everything is about race, just curious.
I don’t feel sorry for her now. Just another get over person. I hope she gets what she has coming.
Damn it! I could use an 8K wellness retreat or down payment on an expensive car. Y'all just don't understand how it can be so exhausting doing your own hair every single workday!
Gives new meaning to being in 'Bidness for yourself'
That “single employee beauty/barber” thing is all over my zip code, too. Might that connect some dots on the apparent spike in range rovers? Karma’s going to be ugly when maintenance and depreciation hit.
Is she still on the job?
If you guessed "a single employee beauty salon PPP loan for $8K" then give yourself a prize.
And she was her only client, it ain't easy wheezy trying to look good for those merit bosses...
It was two loans, #5979638808 and 5413198710. There’s info on other sites that hits on the address. Each loan was about 8k which means she had to claim 40k in revenue for each loan. 80k total in revenue as an esthetician? I don’t know how these loans worked. Can someone claim each loan for separate tax years or were both loans for revenue from the same year?
And why wasn’t she charged with reckless homicide like every other copper in history who killed someone while DUI? Inquiring minds want to know.
If you look at the top of the page, seems she actually got two loans for close to $17K.
Where are the feds at? She needs to be federally charged now along with the rest of the clowns especially the exempt ranks in the Chicago police department. They need to be locked up. Lock him up. They are criminals. They are not police!
On the topic of Un-F@#$ing Believeable
Big Butt (and Mouth) is at it again
CTU President Stacy Davis-Gates tells members to “punch” a CPS principal “in the face.” Principal files police report. My exclusive story: | Chicago News | WTTW by Paris Schutz
https://news.wttw.com/2024/01/31/cps-principal-files-police-report-saying-chicago-teachers-union-president-made-very
Supposedly, no report can be found. C'mon someone can find it.
God bless the victim and her family. This incident could have been prevented, if only the department could eliminate extremists from its ranks.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I would love to see a breakdown of these ppp loan frauds by race....since everything is about race, just curious.
2/01/2024 03:36:00 AM
Yeah me too but that would be Racist even to ask about.
No surprise to me…..look at that Mac daddy whip she was driving.
She shoulda been able to afford an Uber
Old Guy posting:
HaHaHaHa. Why am I not surprised 😲?
It was for a breauty shop prolly on van bruen so you can get your hair did for a fruneral
She was at another bar with the Capt from 018, the after party!
Who the the hell needs GPS to drive in a district they work in?
Here is the obituary for the woman she killed may she RIP:
https://www.porterloring.com/obituaries/Maria-Antonieta-Tonie-Schwab?obId=30108550
As far as stealing that ppp money where are the feds? How many have quickly jumped off the job that illegally took the PPP loans and bought those expensive rides? Hope they get them all lock the thieves up. They are going after the Jan 6th patriots and creating lies to arrest them, how about the feds do their jobs and go after real criminals like this?
I'm curious about Harvest Small Business Finance, LLC. This firm seems to be coming up often in facilitating PPP loans. Should be worth a deep dive into the firm's background.
Karma's a biatch!
Too bad we have no legitimate news reporters in Chicago.
My guess on the breakdown of PPP loan frausters in Chicago...
Black 60%
Hispanic 25%
White 10%
Other 5%
CPS and CPD version of PPP loan frausters:
Black 90%
Hispanic 5%
White and Other 5%
That’s the least of her problems.
I'm curious who Harvard Small Business Finance LLC, that prepared the loan for her is. Nothing comes up on the Secretary of State website. If I had to guess it's someone else connected that probably helped run the whole scam.
Never went to a X-Mas party my whole time on the job, 29 years. Didn't see the point.
And the Rolling Stones might have had a bigger
hit with Tangie instead of Angie
ot - anyone else see the walgreens at state and randolph this morning? someone (blm? antifa? new arrivals?) smashed out every single g-dam window and i swear they left nothing but the shelves. this city isn’t going to hell - it’s already there!!
I tried to get a PPP loan for a one person massage parlor featuring self gratification
Refused because they said I had insufficient capital
Rim shot
Who is the boyfriend running interference for her ?
Is he the one who retired ?
A face only a mother could love
https://images.app.goo.gl/GEFMJZp3XPK1pMHc9
“ ALERT: There are 2 PPP loans for a total of $16,666 in our database for businesses with the name "Tangie Brown" in Chicago, IL.
$16, 666? Really? 6-6-6! That there was a sign. Tangie! Get right with the Lord!
Anonymous said...
She's an important business woman driving around in a brand new luxury Infiniti. Apparently her luxury car lacked factory navigation that's why she was using her phone for GPS, the one she dropped and was supposedly looking for.
2/01/2024 02:55:00 AM
I ain't go time for all that shit, besides my platinum nail extensions don't allow me to...
More stuff that is Unfuck in believable with us administration. How stupid can they be nothing like announcing what you’re gonna do?
Plans for U.S. strikes on Iranian personnel and facilities in Iraq, Syria approved after Jordan drone attack
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-strikes-iran-personnel-facilities-in-iraq-syria-approved-jordan-drone-attack/
With the terror cells, the Democrats have allowed millions to cross the border get ready boys and girls. We are going to be in a Third World country real quick. God bless the police. God bless our protectors.
Here at FFO training and had to evacuate the room due to extreme fumes and carbon monoxide filling the room we were training in. Likely due to vehicles coming in for auto show. Gotta love this city .
I aint dunn Nuffin!! You all aint shit. I works hards for the money. Give me, give me. give me. Now, the victims family will be saying, give me, give me, give me. I hope the victims family gives the bitch a good colonoscopy!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don’t know who she is, but just saw her mugshot.
Is anyone really shocked by this PPP information?
It’s quite apparent that the rules don’t apply to certain segments of society.
2/01/2024 12:11:00 AM
And they are trying to do away with traffic laws to accommodate those segments. Sickening.
Gotta git dat money!
I'm willing to bet there was a "social circle" of city workers herein that the topic of "getting free money" from the "G" was discussed. All or most of the fraud cases in this city I have heard about were black people. (just saying)
If someone in your circle says "hey! I got some free money from the "G". All U got to do is fill out some paperwork. I would be leery.
I also remember a copper in a district who was known for getting exceptional refunds on people's tax returns. Everybody who had their taxes done by that PO was audited and paid serious fines to the IRS for illegal deductions.
If it sounds too good to be true...
Anonymous said...
And why wasn’t she charged with reckless homicide like every other copper in history who killed someone while DUI? Inquiring minds want to know.
2/01/2024 05:44:00 AM
Why don’t you speak to an ASA and inquire? The laws as they are written are not charged and enforced by the States Attorney. If you are the police, you should know that. There is specific criteria needed to obtain those charges from Felony Review. I agree that the elements of that charge are satisfied according to how it is written. You should know that Kim interprets things her way and not according to statute.
Have Black Militant Extremists been classified as domestic terrorists yet by Merrick Garland and the DOJ, FBI, ATFE DEA?
Not sticking up from the offender, but MeLean cost himself his own career by not responding. Guess the saying is true, “ Street Deputy is where careers go to die!”
Thank goodness for DEI for both of these people. She avoided a reckless homicide charge and he avoided demotion.
commander barz is a two faced coward who didnt man up and respond to the scene
is barz a northsider or south sider?
Wayz I gawn get ma hurr n nelz did now?
This is not surprising at all. These queens gots to get theirs and they going to get it.
on god she dindu nuffin
This is just a fish in the ocean, go after the exempts and these clout motherfuckers in 35th street who think they are untouchable. Where are you FEDERAL AGENCIES?! Oh wait, you're biggest focus is chasing Dick and Jane from Sunday mass for their religious beliefs.
All for the chosen!!
commander barz is a two faced coward who didnt man up and respond to the scene
Why would he ?
Any fraudulent PPP loan should have the bank as the underwriter and therefore liable. The bank was supposed to vet them.
https://www.pandemicoversight.gov/ppp-simple-search-landing?pfilters=%5B%7B%22column%22%3A%22Borrower%22%2C%22operand%22%3A%22IN%22%2C%22values%22%3A%5B%22TANGIE+BROWN%22%5D%7D%2C+%7B%22column%22%3A%22Borrower+address%22%2C%22operand%22%3A%22IN%22%2C%22values%22%3A%5B%224757+S+Champlain+Ave%22%5D%7D%5D
This post should've been called "totally f'n believable". Wouldn't surprise me either if her infiniti was on a repo list somewhere. The lawyer for the dead woman's family isn't gonna get a dime out of this chick. She's probably living way beyond her means. Paycheck to paycheck. Chicago taxpayers are gonna have to pay millions for her f-up because she was at a district sponsored "not sponsored" Christmas party. Hope she goes to prison for this.
I also remember a copper in a district who was known for getting exceptional refunds on people's tax returns. Everybody who had their taxes done by that PO was audited and paid serious fines to the IRS for illegal deductions.
If it sounds too good to be true...
That could only be inside house mice. Your average beat cop just isn't that gullible. Same goes for when you're chatting up red light district hookers in Hamburg Germany, they just don't screw for the $50 that's written on the sign. Smash session is actually $150. So be ready to pull out another $100 for the full ride. Yeeeeehhhhaaaaaww!
I'm willing to bet there was a "social circle" of city workers herein that the topic of "getting free money" from the "G" was discussed. All or most of the fraud cases in this city I have heard about were black people. (just saying)
Either that or they found that old skinny squirrelly white dude in the suit with all the question marks on it screaming on tv I can help you get government money.
If you ever look at those ppp it says here’s some others in the area. When you see they’re all fucking beauty salons you know what kind of area it is.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Never went to a X-Mas party my whole time on the job, 29 years. Didn't see the point.
2/01/2024 08:07:00 AM
Same here, 28 years. Why go and put on a happy face knowing this sham of a department is diseased.
Hopefully she can go back to her hair salon business after she gets out of jail bye felicia
Hein is throwing anyone he can under the bus for this getting screwed up. He is trying so hard to get chief of patrol so bad. Don’t fall for it snelling. Blue shirts hate him and he’s a two faced snake.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Never went to a X-Mas party my whole time on the job, 29 years. Didn't see the point.
2/01/2024 08:07:00 AM
Same here, 28 years. Why go and put on a happy face knowing this sham of a department is diseased.
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Two worthless pos that don’t understand Xmas parties weren’t about the command staff but were to honor the retirees that served their long careers. You didn’t have to get wasted to have class. You two are the reason the job is dead.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm willing to bet there was a "social circle" of city workers herein that the topic of "getting free money" from the "G" was discussed. All or most of the fraud cases in this city I have heard about were black people. (just saying)
Either that or they found that old skinny squirrelly white dude in the suit with all the question marks on it screaming on tv I can help you get government money.
If you ever look at those ppp it says here’s some others in the area. When you see they’re all fucking beauty salons you know what kind of area it is.
2/01/2024 04:36:00 PM
A former mayoral candidate ran a thriving business helping people apply for the free PPP green.
Wasn’t an Area One Detective convicted and sent to prison for a fatal accident on the Dan Ryan while intoxicated? Not a short sentence either.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don’t know who she is, but just saw her mugshot.
Is anyone really shocked by this PPP information?
It’s quite apparent that the rules don’t apply to certain segments of society.
2/01/2024 12:11:00 AM
Racist much?
Anonymous said...
Any fraudulent PPP loan should have the bank as the underwriter and therefore liable. The bank was supposed to vet them.
2/01/2024 03:19:00 PM
A third of all PPP loans were processed by two companie: Womply and Blueacorn. Both were start ups and earned millions in processing fees. There are articles pre PPP loan fraud articles on how Harvest Small Business Loans LLC was partnering with Womply to help process loans in underserved communities. Want to take bets on who any and all connected made campaign contributions to? The sad thing is, where does any of this get us, the taxpayers? We paid out of pocket for these loans, now we’ll pay for the legal billing hours to go after this. It’s all just one big feeding frenzy. Imagine how great this country would be if there’s was a shred of honesty and integrity left in it?
Never went to a X-Mas party my whole time on the job, 29 years. Didn't see the point.
2/01/2024 08:07:00 AM
Same here, 28 years. Why go and put on a happy face knowing this sham of a department is diseased.
2/01/2024 06:24:00 PM
This is one of the easiest jobs on the planet. There isn't a a think I could do in the world to make this much and do this little. 28 years of being a crybaby, what a pathetic fucking career.
Anonymous said...
I also remember a copper in a district who was known for getting exceptional refunds on people's tax returns. Everybody who had their taxes done by that PO was audited and paid serious fines to the IRS for illegal deductions.
If it sounds too good to be true...
That could only be inside house mice. Your average beat cop just isn't that gullible. Same goes for when you're chatting up red light district hookers in Hamburg Germany, they just don't screw for the $50 that's written on the sign. Smash session is actually $150. So be ready to pull out another $100 for the full ride. Yeeeeehhhhaaaaaww!
2/01/2024 04:20:00 PM
Oh yeah, no street copper ever went to the accountant "with receipts.". GTFO you sound new or oblivious.
commander barz is a two faced coward who didnt man up and respond to the scene
2/01/2024 12:57:00 PM
No doubt two faces and a coward, but he is not required to show up to that, that's why there is a street deputy.
This post should've been called "totally f'n believable". Wouldn't surprise me either if her infiniti was on a repo list somewhere. The lawyer for the dead woman's family isn't gonna get a dime out of this chick. She's probably living way beyond her means. Paycheck to paycheck. Chicago taxpayers are gonna have to pay millions for her f-up because she was at a district sponsored "not sponsored" Christmas party. Hope she goes to prison for this.
2/01/2024 04:02:00 PM
Taxpayers will have to pay millions because some off-duty moron chose to drive her personal car drunk after choosing to drink too much to drive? That's not how it works. She was not on duty, not at a police facility, not drinking alcohol provided by the police department, not driving a department vehicle, and not in any way performing anything related to her police duties when any of this happened. You can't just sue the city because a police officer happened to be the one committing the crime. If someone can make a case that the department forced her to drink and drive, or the department overserved her and let her drive knowing she was drunk, then you might have a point. The venue where she was drinking and anyone that may have overserved her could be held responsible, and that's most likely where the family will seek the majority of the money, since the former officer likely doesn't have millions to pay. Just because it's technically a work-related event, doesn't make the department responsible for what she chose to do.
I followed the various PPP fraud stories closely.
This is an outlier in that the two loans were apparently only for about 8K apiece.
Most of the likely fraudulent loans were for approximately 20K apiece--the max.
https://www.uptownupdate.com/2023/04/8-simple-questions-for-angela-clay.html
Then the loans that may or may not be linked to the city treasurer. Could be someone with the same name, but since one loan at least was literally next door to a Clay loan I'm a bit suspicious.
https://data.clarionledger.com/paycheck-protection-program-loans/?state=Illinois&searchtext=melissa+ervin
Need I go into retired exempts?
I wouldn't bet one way or the other, but it's possible soon to be former Officer Tangie had a legit side gig doing hair. I mean if you're going to steal why not steal near the maximum like millions of other questionable loans out there?
She legit. I got my hair did from her. She charged me $40k. It said, what?
commander barz is a two faced coward who didnt man up and respond to the scene
Why would he ?
So that he can check on the well being of an officer under his command and to ensure proper protocol is followed since he is the “Commander” of the District (for now that is) who sponsored the annual Christmas party that according to the flyer that was circulating provided food and alcoholic beverages. Rumor floating around 35th is that he was observed indulging in numerous spirits & other alcoholic beverages himself and as soon as he was notified of his officer being involved in a bad accident in his district leaving his party he disappeared. What a fucking weasel….Don’t worry Boss, only some of the indoor & outdoor cameras that were pulled from the venue and neighboring businesses were working and recording. Some of these bosses are so arrogant that they actually take their city unmarked squad cars and park them right in front of the place with no fear of repercussions.
When are they going to go after all the fraudulent PPE scammers? All these scammers and you do the right thing and no rewards just pay for the bad behavior of these scammers.
Because I'm sure you were friends with at least 1 of the +/- 300 people that you worked with?
Then again, with attitudes like that, maybe not.
Who was her accountant? "Meechie" from the old 13th District? {snicker}
11:32pm. I guess you just got on the dept within the last month. There absolutely have been civil cases brought against officers who were off duty, and NOT performing any official duties but the City eventually made a payout
Fred is doing fine in retirement. He starts chief of police in Hickory Hills in March.
Anonymous said...
Wasn’t an Area One Detective convicted and sent to prison for a fatal accident on the Dan Ryan while intoxicated? Not a short sentence either.
2/01/2024 09:59:00 PM
That would be true, but it’s all about the demographics, and all about who’s doing who!
Infinity of Country Club Hills has a fund set up … Friends of Tangie … if anyone is interested
11:32pm. I guess you just got on the dept within the last month. There absolutely have been civil cases brought against officers who were off duty, and NOT performing any official duties but the City eventually made a payout
2/02/2024 05:34:00 AM
I'm not on the department. What cases and what did the off-duty officers do? The city isn't responsible for the actions of their employees at all times and under all circumstances. There are certainly some things off-duty officers can do that would result in the department/city being sued and having to pay. Driving your personal car while drunk and off-duty, resulting in a fatal crash, is not one of those things. I'm sure you won't respond to this with actual, relevant examples of your claim, but if you do try, I'm 100% certain you won't find a case where an off-duty drunk driver in their personal car killed someone and the city/department had to pay. How would someone's length of service on the department be relevant to what we're discussing? It's not about police procedure or the department rules and regulations. It's about who pays in a lawsuit. The family could maybe try to push the issue due to the intoxication occurring at a work-related event, where department members planned the event and chose to have alcohol served to attendees. That's a tough sell to any judge or jury in terms of the city/department then bearing responsibility for the actions of the drunk driver. I just don't see a scenario where the taxpayers are on the hook for the payout in this case. But I don't have the irrelevant police experience you do, so maybe I'm wrong.
Where does one go to learn how to game the system??? Why is there a discernable pattern to these grifters..........
Hein is throwing anyone he can under the bus for this getting screwed up. He is trying so hard to get chief of patrol so bad. Don’t fall for it snelling. Blue shirts hate him and he’s a two faced snake.
You’re correct but you must understand that the white shirts hate him much more…
Them ppp loans was loans disguised as reparations!
Anonymous said...
Wasn’t an Area One Detective convicted and sent to prison for a fatal accident on the Dan Ryan while intoxicated? Not a short sentence either.
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Area 3 Detective Rooney was suspended for drug / alcohol abuse...
Hein is throwing anyone he can under the bus for this getting screwed up. He is trying so hard to get chief of patrol so bad. Don’t fall for it snelling. Blue shirts hate him and he’s a two faced snake.
The blue shirts don’t have anywhere near the interaction with him that the white shirt do. That’s why they hate him so much more.
We lost good Sgts and Lts that left to get away from him., even some of his own office staff left him.
I know people don’t like our current Cmdr. but things are much better here now ..
So that he can check on the well being of an officer under his command and to ensure proper protocol is followed since he is the “Commander” of the District (for now that is) who sponsored the annual Christmas party that according to the flyer that was circulating provided food and alcoholic beverages. Rumor floating around 35th is that he was observed indulging in numerous spirits & other alcoholic beverages himself and as soon as he was notified of his officer being involved in a bad accident in his district leaving his party he disappeared. What a fucking weasel….Don’t worry Boss, only some of the indoor & outdoor cameras that were pulled from the venue and neighboring businesses were working and recording. Some of these bosses are so arrogant that they actually take their city unmarked squad cars and park them right in front of the place with no fear of repercussions.
Would be an awful look, if after attending your own Christmas Party and having a few drinks with your people, you show up to an incident involving an odpo involved in a fatal accident with intoxication implied , when he himself had a few drinks. That’s why the ON DUTY OCIC spot exists , so an impartial investigation occurs. Too bad that coward OCIC chose not to show up and then retired in shame.
10:08 am...I'll help you out with one. Google Joe Frugoli
Wasn’t an Area One Detective convicted and sent to prison for a fatal accident on the Dan Ryan while intoxicated? Not a short sentence either.
Yes. Joe Frugoli. Rec’d an 8 year sentence. He could have gotten 30+.
Fred is doing fine in retirement. He starts chief of police in Hickory Hills in March.
2/02/2024 06:38:00 AM
Hickory Hills will be less than satisfied.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Wasn’t an Area One Detective convicted and sent to prison for a fatal accident on the Dan Ryan while intoxicated? Not a short sentence either.
2/01/2024 09:59:00 PM
That would be true, but it’s all about the demographics, and all about who’s doing who!
2/02/2024 06:49:00 AM
https://abc7chicago.com/joseph-frugoli-code-of-silence-chicago-police-dui/2757747/
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Never went to a X-Mas party my whole time on the job, 29 years. Didn't see the point.
2/01/2024 08:07:00 AM
Same here, 28 years. Why go and put on a happy face knowing this sham of a department is diseased.
2/01/2024 06:24:00 PM
This is one of the easiest jobs on the planet. There isn't a a think I could do in the world to make this much and do this little. 28 years of being a crybaby, what a pathetic fucking career.
2/01/2024 11:13:00 PM
Well said. I tried to go to as many as I could, missed a lot, but tried. as my old partner said - God rest his soul - if we don't go who is gonna go? the firemen?
commander barz is a two faced coward who didnt man up and respond to the scene
Thats what your mommy and daddy are for. You think a Commander is supposed to show up at every incident 24 hours a day?
Would be an awful look, if after attending your own Christmas Party and having a few drinks with your people, you show up to an incident involving an odpo involved in a fatal accident with intoxication implied , when he himself had a few drinks. That’s why the ON DUTY OCIC spot exists , so an impartial investigation occurs. Too bad that coward OCIC chose not to show up and then retired in shame.
OCIC probably didn’t show up for the same exact reason. He was spotted at a Christmas party Out south himself that night, possibly knew that he wouldn’t be the ideal person to oversee that in the state he was in. Either way MAIU was lead and should have been, IAD should have came out. That’s the reason those guys sign up to be call out team and get the OT and take home car.
OCIC probably didn’t show up for the same exact reason. He was spotted at a Christmas party Out south himself that night, possibly knew that he wouldn’t be the ideal person to oversee that in the state he was in. Either way MAIU was lead and should have been, IAD should have came out. That’s the reason those guys sign up to be call out team and get the OT and take home car.
If he was the OCIC, which starts at 2000 hrs, and was drinking at a party out south on duty, which I doubt, that would be extremely stupid, considering it was a weekend night and you know the odds are great you’re gonna be called out to something. I’ll stick to my original assessment that he was coward who was afraid to show up and handle the incident. Maui handles the investigation but the OCIC is in overall command of the incident. The on-call iad person that didn’t respond should be taking time and getting dumped to a district, as they handle the admin investigation.
Feds will be investigating,prosecuting the Caucasian police officers and dispatchers that fraudulently applied for PPE and FEMA loans .
" Anonymous said...
commander barz is a two faced coward who didnt man up and respond to the scene"
"Thats what your mommy and daddy are for. You think a Commander is supposed to show up at every incident 24 hours a day?"
No Barz.Read the general orders on District Commanders. You're supposed to respond to major incidents in your district and leave when relieved of command by a higher ranking member. A real leader, which would not be a Mike Barz, would have responded,ensured the wellbeing of your officers and the public, ensured the scene is managed,make the appropriate notifications, and debriefed the superior responding ranking member. That's what a real police leader would have done...but nobody every accused a corrupt hack like you of being a real leader, have they, Barz???
"This is one of the easiest jobs on the planet. There isn't a a think I could do in the world to make this much and do this little. 28 years of being a crybaby, what a pathetic fucking career."
2/01/2024 11:13:00 PM
This is not one of the easiest jobs on the planet. If it was it would NOT have the highest suicide, divorce, alcoholism, mental health issues and depression rates of any occupation.
Working for a good city and a good department with good leaders would make it an easier job...but we don't. We work for some of the worst bosses, for some of the worst citizens, against the worst criminals, for the most corrupt police department, with one of the worst reputations, nestled within the most corrupt city, county and state in the country. That changes the dynamics of the occupation.
Would be an awful look, if after attending your own Christmas Party and having a few drinks with your people, you show up to an incident involving an odpo involved in a fatal accident with intoxication implied , when he himself had a few drinks. That’s why the ON DUTY OCIC spot exists , so an impartial investigation occurs. Too bad that coward OCIC chose not to show up and then retired in shame.
OCIC probably didn’t show up for the same exact reason. He was spotted at a Christmas party Out south himself that night, possibly knew that he wouldn’t be the ideal person to oversee that in the state he was in. Either way MAIU was lead and should have been, IAD should have came out. That’s the reason those guys sign up to be call out team and get the OT and take home car.
Maybe both of those ex IAD bosses, and their enablers, may want to review the G.O.s regarding intoxication. You can not be intoxicated on or off duty,-not even in your own home. Don't believe me? Ask the officers sitting in or fired from callback, some of who were dui off duty...and at home.
If he was the OCIC, which starts at 2000 hrs, and was drinking at a party out south on duty, which I doubt, that would be extremely stupid, considering it was a weekend night and you know the odds are great you’re gonna be called out to something. I’ll stick to my original assessment that he was coward who was afraid to show up and handle the incident. Maui handles the investigation but the OCIC is in overall command of the incident. The on-call iad person that didn’t respond should be taking time and getting dumped to a district, as they handle the admin investigation.
2/04/2024 12:56:00 AM
No one has ever accused Fred of being a genius, but I do not think your description of being a coward is fair. If he had a couple of pops under his belt, not responding was the right decision. It avoided many, many possible complications, of which, you should be able to list. You will see he was not a coward. He was smart. Afterwards, in the ensuing days, it seems he learned things were not looking all that good for him administratively, so he took the best available option and retired unscathed.
No one has ever accused Fred of being a genius, but I do not think your description of being a coward is fair. If he had a couple of pops under his belt, not responding was the right decision. It avoided many, many possible complications, of which, you should be able to list. You will see he was not a coward. He was smart. Afterwards, in the ensuing days, it seems he learned things were not looking all that good for him administratively, so he took the best available option and retired unscathed.
Are you seriously trying to rationalize this for him?
If he had a couple of pops under his belt when he’s the on-duty OCIC, the highest ranking officer working on the department during those hours, he’s a fool not befitting the rank he held, it’s 2024 not 1994, so he’s a coward who left everyone working that incident
Hung out to dry because he was afraid to respond and do his job so his name wouldn’t be associated with any of it.
Nice try holding his nuts with that rationalization but it doesn’t cut it.
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