Let's Count the Days
....the Days Off Cancelled so far:
- PRIDE weekend
- five days over the Fourth (on a Thursday?)
- NASCAR
- a week of Lolla
And we haven't even touched on the Air and Water / Billiken double weekend, all in a run up to the DNC $hitshow.
How long until we hear the media whining about another year of massive overtime costs....ignoring the fact that these are CANCELLED DAYS OFF. We didn't ask for them - they were forced on the Department by inept political action (or inaction).
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
70 Comments:
So to-froms to retain RDOs getting denied also now ! With no real criteria set forth as to who gets denied or who gets approved !You get the chance to have your RDOs fall on a holiday weekend every 5 years or so and now you are forced to work them ! I get hitting the medical but what if you have a small trip planned ? Sorry no life for you as the city needs to host another event !!! How about not hosting these events if you don't have the resources !!!!By the way I wouldn't even hit the medical, I just wouldn't show up period !
Bless you guys.
Googling top paid CPD officers, how are people making north of $400k, comp time cash out at retirement? Dam that is crazy, god bless ya.
too much stress on the department . soon no one will be left. anyone that can leave is doing so.
Than there will be complaining on how money we make. Not we are always working or that we never have a normal life.
Get ready for more overtime when the shit hits the fan on the national scene. So with the coverup of of Biden’s dementia by the Democrats, the news media and the government we now have a President who cannot be reelected because he is mentally incompetent but they are ok with leaving him in office! This is the biggest coverup of all time. They have already put some of our bases on high alert. They have made our country so much more dangerous because our enemies know this is time time period that the country is vulnerable.
Imagine what the city would be like if black people stopped committing crimes. Not a racist statement, but what would Chicago and the US be like if that happened. Any media outlets willing to look at that?
None of these events are an emergency situation, natural disaster, etc. All should be considered as triple time for everyone who's day off is cancelled.
Once it becomes more expensive to fuck with the coppers schedules instead of hiring more, they'll hire more. Negating the need to cancel days off (well at least as much).
The union needs to lead the fix...
Nothing beats seniority and a 7B, 8B furlough selections.
Save enough OT, retire early.
Who am I kidding, we still don’t make that much in a Biden economy.
+Suenos Fest too
and the Columbus statue is down. Well hidden. Fireworks cancelled.
Not our parents America!
Happy 4th. I'll have a Fifth!!!!
Exactly. I don’t want the overtime. I want to be home with my family.
I thought snelling was going to be different, but he’s just as bad if not worse than the others. And Hein, denying all requests to keep your rdo’s if u didn’t have plane tickets somewhere. We have the absolute worst leaders on this dept. they have absolutely no regard for your wellbeing.
yay,,, the bud billiken parade,,,, I'm gonna see if I can get his autograph,,,,
Why was the 3rd of July cancelled for midnights and days? Why is the 5th cancelled? Why is nascar cancelled? We can understand the 4th of July, but why the rest? This is why people become disgruntled. There’s no need to cancel those days off and there’s no “immediate emergency.” It’s all “just in case something might happen.” So why are they allowed to just arbitrarily cancel our days off like this. When does it end? This pattern and practice is what drives people to suicide, depression, medical roll use, quitting the job, not coming on the job to begin with. I have become the biggest opponent to people wanting to come on this job. If anyone asks me or I have the opportunity to tell anyone I tell them how bad it is. Don’t ever ever come on this job or let your kids join this department. We are treated inhumanly. How many times do we have to yell that this IS A PROBLEM! No matter what we say or dr sobol or anyone else, the department just does not give a shit about you and they prove that every single summer.
Middle finger salute to snelling and Hein. This dynamic duo may be the worst we’ve ever had.
Maybe we need to start turning our backs every time snelling comes into a room, like NY does to mayors they despise.
Hey Scc. Am I working this weekend?
Instead of being in Michigan with my family today ON MY RDO, I am forced to go into work. I hate this job and every one of you spineless gold stars that continue to do this to us.
Again Ive said the same thing every summer for a decade now. Is there anyone up top that knows how to run this fucking place without cancelling days off ? Zero ingenuity or imagination besides running the same fucking playbook over and over. Larry Eddie Garry and the few in between - same exact dumb playbook. Stop looking around like you don't think it fucks over coppers relationships at home with the spouse / kids and leads to a whole slew of issues.
Snelling stripped officers for the vax(lack of), during covid. Now he’s cancelling days off again. Remember this when you’re asked to toe the line for the DNC.
01:46 There is no biden dementia coverup, nor has there ever been. It has been on display for years.
Our goverment, local, state & federal are loaded with the same idiots over & over. ?!?!?!
Families are not important to Democrats.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Imagine what the city would be like if black people stopped committing crimes. Not a racist statement, but what would Chicago and the US be like if that happened. Any media outlets willing to look at that?
7/04/2024 02:11:00 AM
they did,,, if you take out the crime stats in the top demoRAT cities (chicago, l.a., ny, seattle, portland,,,etc,,,etc,,,) America moves up to one of the safest countries in the world,, but since that puts the blame on the dems the study is buried
Forced overtime is what happens when the available manpower hours doesn't meet the requirements. Hiring additional workers is time consuming and expensive.
I hear all kinds of rumors about manpower. Wasn't there supposed to be a mass exodus of retirements leading up to the convention? Is that happening?
What about new hires? Let's face it: the city police department is not an attractive option. The public vilification and scrutiny. The general quality of life in the city. A criminal justice system that has been deactivated allowing criminals to run wild. There are no safe areas in the city. In the last few years there has been at least 4 officers have fallen victim to attacks while just being. The housing prices are ridiculous. And on top of that the real estate taxes push housing affordability out of the reach of the workforce.
And the school system needs to be shut down and completely restructured.
The city of Chicago is not an attractive place to live.
According to the 8 minutes Officer Wellness training this year, this is just an opportunity for a “growth” mindset. Just think of it as an opportunity.
An opportunity to find a way to get the fuck out of this toxic department.
I can remember the distant past, when it was a really big deal to cancel days off.
Stop crying and bitching. This is what you signed up for. If you don’t like being a brain dead slave, multiple times divorced, absentee father and robotic yes man, like me, you should have got another job. I on the other hand pleasure myself to a picture of me in my dress blues. Then I lie in bed imagining how cool the fire fighter step Dad’s are that are actually raising my kids must be. But I justify it by pretending I’m Martin Riggs in the Lethal Weapon movies. That’s what my life is all about. Pretending that I’m important and my life has meaning.
Collectively signed,
John Hein & Angel Novalez
Hey Scc. Am I working this weekend?
7/04/2024 06:54:00 AM
No.
You're never working, just showing up.
Drag up
Retirement numbers between 01 - 16 August ?
The problem is democrat politicians that defend the few thousand black criminals in Chicago and convince the other law abiding Americans that police are racist. Shot spotter is racist.
Cha-ching...! Pay me!
I expect there will be some sabre rattling over the OT budget...I'll choose to ignore that all the way to the bank.
Be careful out there...May G-d bless CPD rank and file
Anonymous said...
Nothing beats seniority and a 7B, 8B furlough selections.
7/04/2024 03:57:00 AM
You got that right but and after that roll it into a nice IOD that needs tending to. Don’t owe this city or department a damn thing.
What we have here is a failure to communicate. These bosses don’t give a shit about you. Once they become management it’s over. They become like the rest, uncaring or mean natured and always worried about the bottom line. I saw some just plain stupid and totally lazy folks pass right by the rest of us hard chargers that we shared the same roll calls with and then they became our bosses. Just awful. It’s worse now with fewer officers and the constant strain that are put upon them. More money is being made but at what cost. There is a life after CPD just make it to the finish line. Happy and safe 4th to the troops out there.
They say this is why we get dury availability. The fire department also gets one; they don’t get their days off cancelled. For The amount of days we get canceled , our duty availability should be more. In fact, the fire department has a me too clause as well as the Sgt union in their contract. I’m surprised FOP hasn’t argued that this affects our own contract negotiations since the city will not negotiate in good faith since whatever they give Chicago police Department, they will have to give to the fire department as well as the cpd sergeants. We essentially are negotiating for them.
Snelling and Hein complete trash. Neither has worked the street in their lives. One hid at the academy and the other kissed every other bosses ass like Godsel. They bith know what we are about to go through with the DNC and they continue to cancel days off. These two are worse than Brown and McDermott
Furlo
Medical
Furlo
Gonna be a great summer
Middle finger salute to snelling and Hein. This dynamic duo may be the worst we’ve ever had
Worst?
Same as the guys before them and the guys before them. Nothing ever changes. Events like NASCAR and Lolla should let guys and gals from the burbs come up and work OT. Save our bodies for where they are needed.
That Billiken parade is way over manned. I can see using police to control traffic at some intersections, but S&S barricades everywhere else for traffic and crowd control. The city gave them a permit that they can have the streets for their parade. What they do with the streets is their business as long as their not breaking any laws. Why are we standing along the line of march asking folks to stay behind the curb. That should be the parade organizers job. They can hire folks to do that. If the folks can’t control their own parade for their own folks than they should not have it. This goes for all parades. These aren’t CPD parades. Are folks so out of control they can’t even enjoy their own parade without police being involved. But, I guess I know the answer.
Left this job 5 years ago with 33 on (had to wait for 55), and my heart bleeds for you guys & gals.
What they're doing to you & having completely incompetent humps for bosses has to be as aggravating as all hell!
Years ago, there was no shortage of idiots but the majority of the bosses had your back & would try to work with you.
At least that was my experience.
Please be safe and look out for each other!
Are you guys new?? You’re acting like this the first July you’re getting F’d over. A simple solution is go actually have to work a real job somewhere else where you’ll have to do work. Ya it sucks Memorial Day to Labor Day. But all you have to do is show up and breathe. Give them nothing more.
Anonymous said...
Instead of being in Michigan with my family today ON MY RDO, I am forced to go into work. I hate this job and every one of you spineless gold stars that continue to do this to us.
7/04/2024 06:56:00 AM
Make the $120,000+ a year ..save for good retirement..
Too many CPD uniformed ,sworn Officers enjoying the good life As Desk Jockeys ...shuffling papers for useless merits.... not on the street where citizens & their follow Officers need help
Imagine what the city would be like if black people stopped committing crimes. Not a racist statement, but what would Chicago and the US be like if that happened. Any media outlets willing to look at that?
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You can only imagine.
The 13% committing 90% of crimes. How disproportionate, stats must be racist according to Al Sharpton.
Do you wonder why done of the tv stations have done an investigative report on why summer festivals and fireworks have been cancelled?
It isn’t right. Should we expect our entire summers cancelled in the future? Lollapalooza should have private security. Why are they canceling city wide for an event downtown? This is crazy and the union shouldn’t be making as much media blowup as possible. This is ruining our social and marriage lives by never having a day off for an event or holiday.
Some of you guys need to listen to Ben Shapiro. One of the sharpest person on podcasts.
Just like Ben, I believe in the owner of free markets. Free market economics allows all of us to prosper.
An employer has every right to set the conditions of employment. If you do not like it, you always have the freedom to go elsewhere and find another job with better pay and benefits based on what you are offering them in relation to your education, experience and expertise.
Free markets work. Everyone wins when free markets are left to operate on their own and free of government meddling.
How many police officers are we short ?
How many assigned to administrative duties?
How many assigned to politicians as bodyguards?
Did conehead hire ,add 200 Detectives to CPD budget?
Where are the 1,000 civilians to handle domestic disturbances and disturbances with mental?
Why does CPD needs CAPS Sgt. & Officers in every district and a bureau at headquarters?
Shotspotter room could be handled by civilians,so could review.
What kind of scam job is a violence interruptor?
THANK GOD I AM RETIRED!!! The main reason I retired earlier than planned was due to the constant RDO cancellation. God bless you all, and stay safe!
To all those working tonight, I hope you have a safe night. Worked plenty of 4th nights. I was also RDO on some of them and it never used to be cancelled. What’s going on now with the way everyone is treated is terrible.
Full 7 furlough! And when I get back I’m hitting the medical for a year and THEN I’m retiring!
It sucks but that’s what we signed up for. Like the line from Blade Runner, if you ain’t a cop your little people!
After 7 months in the academy you knew it was going to be a crazy ride so enjoy it or jump off and work a 9-5 like a schmuck
Too many people working in non essential functions far fro n the best car reality of the job. Most of the inside spots and the districts could be civilians. Absolutely no reason that full duty officers have to be doing those jobs. Those doing those jobs would tell you otherwise buts they’re wrong. No one is touching super top secret information. The utter sheer terror of hundreds would get launched back to beat cars would be fucking classic. Days off cancelled is directly related that the watches on the street have been robbed. Cops Avoiding Police Situations (CAPS) needs to be civilians. HQ needs civilians not sworn. SDSC, DIO and the front offices could all be civilians
The Feds are done asking actual and legitimate questions of our Exempt Hierarchy and getting nothing but Word Salad. There is NO WAY they will put their careers and the safety of the high ranking Democrats on the backs of unbelievably incompetent Hacks. Expect Biden to be replaced before the concention and scheduling conflicts or health issues to be the norm.
I expect to have certain days off cancelled.
I expect to miss time with my family.
But since 2020 this has been an absolute disaster.
Whole 4 day blocks cancelled for no reason.
Senior officers cancelled for pride parade working 12 hour days.
And to top it off they expect us to protect a communist pedophile dementia patient from other radical communists at the DNC?
No thanks
Grow some balls and hit the medical or reap the whirlwind
"Most of the inside spots and the districts could be civilians. Absolutely no reason that full duty officers have to be doing those jobs. "
Most of the murders now are solved by cops looking at video.
"Imagine what the city would be like if black people stopped committing crimes. Not a racist statement, but what would Chicago and the US be like if that happened. Any media outlets willing to look at that?"
They commit those crimes because you made them do it. Where have you been the last 40 years, you know, "root causes" and all. It's not their fault it's yours...
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
It sucks but that’s what we signed up for. Like the line from Blade Runner, if you ain’t a cop your little people!"
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched C beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost to time, like tears in the rain. Time to die." Rutger Hauer, as replicant Roy Batty, in "Blade Runner" (1982).
"Imagine what the city would be like if black people stopped committing crimes. Not a racist statement, but what would Chicago and the US be like if that happened. Any media outlets willing to look at that?"
They commit those crimes because you made them do it. Where have you been the last 40 years, you know, "root causes" and all. It's not their fault it's yours...
___
I'm black and that's correct.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Stop crying and bitching. This is what you signed up for. If you don’t like being a brain dead slave, multiple times divorced, absentee father and robotic yes man, like me, you should have got another job. I on the other hand pleasure myself to a picture of me in my dress blues. Then I lie in bed imagining how cool the fire fighter step Dad’s are that are actually raising my kids must be. But I justify it by pretending I’m Martin Riggs in the Lethal Weapon movies. That’s what my life is all about. Pretending that I’m important and my life has meaning.
Collectively signed,
John Hein & Angel Novalez
7/04/2024 10:22:00 AM
Firefighter step dads. This is so true it truly is one big orgy isn’t it? You can’t make this up.
12 hour shifts and we can’t take all cash for 4th of July day of cancelled. Union needs to make it were if we get involuntary days off cancelled on your holiday we should be able to take 25 hours cash. Sgt & Lt can do why can’t officers.
Anonymous said...
How many police officers are we short ?
How many assigned to administrative duties?
How many assigned to politicians as bodyguards?
Did conehead hire ,add 200 Detectives to CPD budget?
Where are the 1,000 civilians to handle domestic disturbances and disturbances with mental?
Why does CPD needs CAPS Sgt. & Officers in every district and a bureau at headquarters?
Shotspotter room could be handled by civilians,so could review.
What kind of scam job is a violence interruptor?
7/04/2024 02:58:00 PM
Was at a meeting Not that long ago, when Larry was coming in to be the boss from the gym, they were talking about bringing back, retired coppers for the inside spots so they started with a contract to teach constitutional policing over 100 using federal money were brought back, but then, again, the children that were friends of Larry’s at the Academy got jealous and wanted those jobs for their families. They were friends on the job so they terminated the contract and brought in over 100 inexperienced coppers to teach the program. Then what happened the experience coppers sitting in the classrooms, realized that their last best arrest was maybe a DUI many said fuck it. So now you have more inside desk dollies than ever full duty coppers should be on the street they are needed. We would welcome you back.
Grow some balls and hit the medical or reap the whirlwind
7/04/2024 11:34:00 PM
Such a rich set up for puns:
I would, but I only have ovaries.
What, do you mean fake being kicked in the sack?
Or do you mean really kick myself in the sack?
What if I have balls so huge that I don't have to fake injury, just apply some blue dye to them?
Does having that old vasectomy scarring pain count?
Do I have to, I'm just getting accustomed to them shrinking?
Oh my, I wish I could.....
Coppers are self sabotaging idiots. The people (retired I’m assuming) on here commenting on and on with their “back in the dayisms” about how “you know what this job entailed when you signed up, if you don’t like it quit” are the same assholes to post about “why won’t the department do something about all these police suicides” and “enough is enough with the RDO’s cancelled”. Contrary to what you think most police OTJ now don’t make this their total identity and actually enjoy time spent away from work. Yes we all knew certain holidays and events during the year we’d be working but this shit’s over the top now with cancelling RDO’s for every fucking event. Another reason why people like me are retiring early or many passing this job for other opportunities.
08:25, black guy, give us your reasons it's correct.
Thought this Superintendent was on Our side??,? I guess not just like the other stroke bosses
Why is Superintendent allowing this ???
He was always on officers side
I'm black and that's correct.
7/05/2024 08:25:00 AM
So that's why you are my bestest of clients!
Chalkie
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It isn’t right. Should we expect our entire summers cancelled in the future? Lollapalooza should have private security. Why are they canceling city wide for an event downtown? This is crazy and the union shouldn’t be making as much media blowup as possible. This is ruining our social and marriage lives by never having a day off for an event or holiday.
7/04/2024 02:29:00 PM
Please just lay up it’s that simple. You can have off. Make the call. Who cares and stop worrying about your marriages you’re all going to be divorced when your wife finds out your texting the new Coed in district suggestive pictures.
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