"Where is the Glock?"
A "turned in gun" goes missing - again???
On a typically brisk day in December 2023, a throng of people gathered in the basement of St. Sabina Church in Auburn Gresham to hand over hundreds of guns.
The scene was similar to dozens of other gun buyback events held at the Catholic parish, where more than 5,100 guns have been exchanged for gift cards over the last 19 years, more than any other location in the city.
That day was marked by excitement, confusion and ultimately chaos after one cop inventorying the weapons at a police station noticed something unusual. A Glock handgun that cops had been admiring was missing.
A tag identifying the gun had been slipped onto another one, and an envelope for that gun was soon found in the trash. In an office full of cops assigned to inventory the guns and keep them secure, someone had walked off with the Glock.
The article goes on to report that this isn't the first time this happened:
The lost weapon’s journey mirrored an earlier event in which a gun turned in by a Cook County judge disappeared from another buyback in Chicago — only to resurface at a fatal police shooting in Cicero, as the Better Government Association and Chicago Sun-Times reported in 2017.
After that report, the city launched an investigation that lasted more than five years. But investigators decided it would be “difficult and unwise” to question everyone involved in the buyback. So they didn’t interview anyone.
"...unwise..."
We all know what that means. You don't ask questions if you don't want to know the answers.
In this most recent case, a sergeant took a day. No one else got dinged. Shortcuts were implemented to the inventory process and someone managed to circumvent the shortened process.
How about going back to the tried and true method, add in a layer of visual inspection by two individuals, both signing the gun envelope before sealing it, and then put it in a one way flap on an armored box or armored truck or something that can only be opened at ERPS? The Department has done it with how many tons of dope behind the Desk for years.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
74 Comments:
Glock just discontinued a bunch of their gun models.
Looks like DOGE is working in the private sector as well.
SCC.. this is well known and I think I remember seeing it in the comments a few months back. Someone connected from 006 tac walked off with that gun.. a female and a family member or boyfriend ended up getting caught with the gun weeks later.. it’s some variation of that but I know people from 006 know the story so I don’t wanna mess up the details. Anyone from 006 care to fill us in?
I used to work for cook county department of corrections. I never leave home without my glock. One in the chamber.
If 2017 was "$3.5M," "extremely abnormal and troublesome," along with "difficult and unwise," how much worser will this one be when it floats to the surface? Did Cicero send Chicago a bill for their payout?
Hickory Dickery Dock A Cop Ran Off With A Glick?
Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of guns turned in, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.
In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal guns that were turned in , we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of GUNS or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.
To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.
I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation. What I can assure the American people is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear. Because it was an inside job!!
And Snitches Get Stitches am I right?
Father pfaker be needn it to protect his sorry ass
One for me, one for the melting pot. Who knew there is money to be made in resale 🤣
BaCk tHe blUe!!!!!! Disgusting thief.
What a ghetto police department. Won't be long before lockers in the district stations get broken into once the new hires learn that coppers some real nice s*** in their work lockers.
I ram an armory. There will always be idiots that “go klepto” around guns and even parts. They will throw away a career over $20 in parts they can legally order on the internet.
Call in Inspector Clouseau.
Gun gone missing in police custody? I remember an federal felon ( Betty Loren Maltese) had an visit from her parole agent in Vagas. Agents found an glock 40 in her closet under a pair of jean, trace serial number goshes.
It belong to mwrd police Stickney plant, the same police dept that had a drinking room. After federal agents did a thorough investigation better than mwrd pd a sgt "of same heritage" took permanent vacation ie ret. Sgt are responsible for dept weapons no discipline if connected free to skate.
what?? you want security and accountability in a gun buy black, I mean buyback program, silly rabbit,,,, that's only for the legal, law-abiding, taxpaying citizens
If it's not turned in, was it really ever there?!
Shitbag coppers stealing shit should know better, why can't the city just sell the guns to cops or others for a price instead of airhead stealing the gun for "my purpose xyz"?
So, a police official stole that Glock?...is there no video? No fingerprints on the envelope in the trash? Seems like a solvable crime has occurred, and the department is stonewalling. This officer/employee needs to be found, and screwed to the wall.
Time for the State Police to take over all gun turn in events in Chicago.
Glick? U mean Glock?
From his lovers; Ooops, I mean his sons.
Ain’t nobody no Nuffin.
Meh, it's a Glock... A Walther is better....
Ah the days of yester years the blast furnaces in the still mills. Along with the coke process no that coke, for the younger ones. Sign Skag.
...did it have a .."switch"...???
Asking for my new partner...
Name the ex commander thT had 10 guns in his locker he took off of ppl? Name similar to excrement
That's the same turn-in where they gave out expired gift cards... Crooked all the way around.
Some heads gon roll, this rat broke into a police station
https://www.instagram.com/p/DIDaJHlgMqQ/?igsh=MTY3d3c0eWJ1aWJneQ==
How can they "buy back" what they never owned?
After seeing the type of weapons being turned in a .45 caliber Glock seems like a fed set up. Just sayin.
Has that Thompson machine gun that went "missing" from the police academy range years ago ever been located?
This pretty much cements that "turn ins," "buy backs" or voluntary surrenders should be permanently discontinued, unless they go through an FFL.
State police should take over the gun turn in days.
I once had an off duty gun taken and did a theft report. I made sure I printed a copy. When I got home my Commander called me to say my report had been revised to say it was a “lost” weapon. I told my commander I didn’t lose it and knew why it was changed. Why? Because there was a Commander and a Captain in the area and that would have meant a blanket cr on everyone there including bosses. I said I’ll take the hit but know this I have an approved copy of my original with a time stamp, so I hope “ I don’t suffer” any repercussions. McCarthy was Super and had increased all punishments so I was given 10 days. The commander said just take time or use vdays or baby furloughs. I said I’m not giving this department my time. I’ll take the days I’m not a deadbeat I have money. In fact Commander I’m going to the Bahamas for the week and did.
I recall some years back that a janitor was caught breaking into lockers and stealing vests and guns . I believe this happened in 011
Were the police officers assigned SPECIAL?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Sure troll
Rock out with your glock out!
Snitches get Gold Stars. Look at all our merit exempts that were IAD rats. Barz, Talley, Tate, Ward
Don't worry SCC I'm sure the copper that took the gun will be in this next seargents class meritorious of course. We use to laugh at Robbins, Harvey and dixmoor police but we have the same shit happening here.
Let’s face it…. the 006th District is in need of new leadership.
State Police should get back out on the expressways and tollways, especially now that there is no contract between the old District 15 and the Illinois Tollway. That’s where they belong.
Hire shitbird bangers on CPD. This shit happened befooo. Pac-Man. Baxter streets. Tyrone Francis. Meatchum. Finn Egan to name a few.
And it may be, but some ass took the bait. You can’t have a successful “set up” without a willing numbskull.
There’s no video in stations other than lockup. Older stations you’re lucky if you have a fully functional bathroom. And fingerprint the envelope? This isn’t the movies. And even if you could get prints, how many people handled that envelope? Probably a whole bunch of people. But I will agree, if the Glock was stolen and not simply mishandled, yah, whoever the shitbag is needs criminal charges, if for nothing else for being a moron.
WTF are you trying to say?
Bueller? Bueller?
Just word salad garbage out of the mouth chief
Right- real nice gun... or it was used and they hoping it don't get tested
I’ve seen this film before and I didn’t like the ending. Anyone else out there remember the story of the rifle that was inventoried in 014 sans the scope it was recovered with? It happened long ago and might have been part of the Johnny R. series of incidents/scandal to plague the district during the Joe, forgive me, “Jose” Velez tenure. For years afterward the involved parties were periodically summoned to appear before federal grand jury’s-yep, you read that right, “federal” grand jury’s-often to merely sit all day outside the jury room to think upon their sins without ever being called to testify. Funny how much better you sleep if you’re not a thief.
OMG assman 009 why can’t you just crawl back under the rock you came out from
I guess you proved your point? There are no words to describe this story. Thank god we have guys like you that take the heat off the rest of us.
Calling BS on this…all repot changes are saved in the system. Thus there is the two repots you speak of. The one that gets printed is the last. The original is in the system as well. So it will be east to determine. It’s saved just as all department emails are. Can never be deleted. Sounds like you did not know this.
Jesus...are you drunk?
I have been retired a while now. Sorry for my ignorance, when ever we recovered a gun, one of us would inscribe our initials and star number on the weapon, and then into the watch commanders safe. This way if the gun was returned by a judge the next copper would have a idea, it not the first time as a recovery.
Off topic, https://www.crimefilenews.tv/2025/04/the-mysterious-disappearance-of.html
‘Worser”? Wow…
This is the result of the hiring standard being so low and the individual in charge of Recruitment and Retention well, nevermind.
When Snitches get paid as whistleblowers or as snitches, can I say, Snitches get riches, and then get the bitches with their riches?
Escamilla
By taking time, you only took heat off the real thief.
So, you had an "off-duty gun taken"? How was it taken? From your department locker? Any signs of a break-in? Was an ET ordered? Was your gun in a safe in your locker? Or was your gun in the locker for a period of time unseen and then one day you noticed it missing and assumed someone stole it? Why did you leave it in your locker? Don't say your locker is a safe place with a $6 gym lock on it either. If you leave your gun in your locked car and someone breaks in to steal it, you are still taking 10 days if it is unsecured. If someone breaks into your house and steals your gun from your sock drawer, you are taking 10 days (read the orders).
Your Commander can change the UCR code if the narrative doesn't justify a theft UCR. Sergeants and lieutenants change UCRs everyday.
Your story doesn't add up. Your commander telling you he changed the UCR code "to avoid a blanket CR" sounds too chummy and why would he tell you that? Commanders don't say that to POs unless he was testing you. He probably thought your story was BS, and when you didn't push back at having the UCR changed, you confirmed his suspicion, especially when you said you didn't want to take a hit for him changing the UCR. But he didn't want to go to the trouble of accusing you of filing a false report, which would be a lot more paperwork.
Don't forget for a second that just as POs have heard a lot of BS on the street, that some supervisors (the better ones) have a heard alot of BS from those they supervise.
Glad you had a good trip to the Bahamas.
Sounds like you work in a busy district in a bad neighborhood where people, folks, or coworkers steal guns from police officers, and commanders are so busy that they would rather a hard-working PO take 10 days suspension than do a "blanket CR", order an ET, review cameras, etc., to catch the culprit.
Do you work in 006?
As hiring standards go down, events like this will go up. I feel sorry for the police when they can't trust those they work with.
There's only a limited number of officers who had access to the Glock. Being on that team, I would want a full investigation either to clear the integrity of the team or to find out which ones can't be trusted.
You’re right, let’s make him the commander or deputy chief of somewhere in Homan square because he’s done such fantastic work.
& kneelers get gold stars. Never forget those who bowed to the rioters.
WTF. WTF
Not bs. It wasn’t deleted it was amended using the same RD. I printed the copy after the lt. approved it in front of me on the 3rd watch. Lt. C. I the had a call from the commander who informed my the area deputy had the report changed to a lost weapon. Commander C and Captain P one black one white irish along with other officers in the building would have gotten a cr and we can’t have that. Went down to IAD where they asked me if I had anything I want to say. What could I say it was my responsibility and my failure. I’ll take the hit and it will always remind me why I don’t trust anyone on the department and still don’t.
Strange thing is the Democrats and Dick Durbin are calling this trespass through an unlocked door an "insurrection" and a "threat to democracy". Quite terrifying.
It not only Chicago that has an corruption issues is what the person is trying to say.
This has become a national news story. Good work CPD!
IIRC, the judge who turned the .38 S&W in lawyered up and submitted a bunch of affidavits that he turned the gun in, but could not remember when or where he did so. Inquiring minds got shut down and threatened almost immediately.
025 favorite of yester year
Retired ET here. I disagree. An envelope held tight enough to tear open could easily have fingerprints, and possibly even DNA along the tear edges.
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/streeterville-petition-drive-downtown-curfew/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR7dpkOm1_2Tr2NLAcd8BZrOR2Aw1lr5JTDjNFXisXQMHZrvBW-MKeT9gpxASw_aem_CIyztyBknprVN6F9YL0rgg
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