Back to the Old Way?
Everything old is new again:
- SCC I know your retired but shockingly snelling opened up a second round for merit picks for the current Sgt list from 2024
Back when "merit" started, the request for names went out prior to every promotional class, and once the class was named, they started over. This continuous "meri-clout-orious" list lasting for the duration of the list is a relatively recent invention, mostly because as the exempt ranks got stupider and stupider, they couldn't be relied on to make deadlines.
Besides, as the political winds shift on a near-monthly basis and the "consent decree" rules screw up everything with insane requirements, whomever might be "in" today could be "out" tomorrow.
Labels: department issues, from the comments
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
169 Comments:
Exempts are also changing rather quickly.
Way faster than “the old days”.
Bosses move up, pick their people, then move out rather fast.
New boss wants their guy / girl in.
Johnson doesn't like the "look" of recent graduation classes.
Im not on the merit list but this is complete bullshit. Talk about deflating morale even more.
The whole merit system that the CPD uses should be renamed to friends and family. Just about every merit pick I have ever seen is idiots making idiots bosses. One big shit show.
Padding your friends pay.
Second round for current list? A merit list is made for every class made off the list. Last I remember 30% merit, 70% test score for every class. Packets usually due 30 days before class is made. That’s how we always knew a class was coming. When they put out a merit request.
There is currently no competent upper management who I would trust to pick anybody. Just end this scam and end the yearly efficiency ratings. There is no real leadership in the Chicago Police Department.
Our commander pretty much said don’t apply. She will pick someone and let them know. At least she’s honest. Dumb kids were talking about putting whole packets together.
Bosses don’t want to be exposed as idiots. So they promote people dumber than themselves. Decades of incompetent promotions got us where we are today. Organizational death spiral.
I only fly first class off the list. Fuck merit.
I don’t respect any supervisors. Who respects exempts promoting their bodies. The joke is on you boss.
I just can’t wait to retire. My two paychecks don’t even come on the same days anymore. The people supervising would never be elevated to supervisor in any private company.
Supervisors on CPD are all about them selves. Who pays attention to them.
The job made me not want anything but Det. Most supervisors think they a geniuses.
My Sgt is merit. LOL! My Lt is merit. LOL!
The department has a real problem. Officers don’t have faith in the system. The rank and file don’t want to listen or trust the people running things.
Most bosses forget where they come from.
Gold Star goofs keep the game going.
Distain of the command staff, no strategy and clueless. Junk cars and equipment.
End merit and take away promotions of people messing up.
Soon he will change midnight basketball to noon basketball
The names of the nominees from the exempts at HQ should be published. Bet they all nominate the staff working for them inside. They should be required to nominate from their bureau citywide. What a joke
Since old is new again can we bring back “SHAVED”
Larry must be loosing at the track
Snelling for Mayor!!
Anything to get him moving on out.
The superintendent ask for new merit packets when he feels there are too many applicants he isn't in favor of. This pattern mirrors the previous instance where he removed the sergeants' list after promoting only 350 candidates, despite 900 candidates being promoted off of the previous list. This seems unfair and disheartening for those who dedicated themselves to the process.
Candidates had invested considerable time and resources into their preparation, especially considering the nearly $2,000 spent by candidates on study groups, only to face such abrupt changes. The Fop sad nothing. The silence from the FOP on these pressing issues is also concerning.
To sum it all up, the Supe is very sensitive. It’s personal for him, and I sincerely hope we can see substantial change soon—ideally by May. Fingers crossed.
I'm just shocked the police chief is a white guy. In Portland!
Because that one officer who is suing the city and CPD in federal court due to the “racist” merit process. Chicago PD merit process is being looked by the FEDS and IG’s office. If you notice that the merit selection hasn’t been the original 30 percent.
I would argue merit is now the more legitimate way to a promotion. At least merits have no way to hide themselves from the rest of the department, the list is out for all to view and debate. Now, is merit completely "fair"? absolutely not, but at this time of rampant cheating merit is more legitimate and transparent as opposed to the "score" promoted sergeants who studied test answers provided by their gold star pimps. Find your way to steal a promotion and make it work for you. More than a single way the task can be accomplished. Winners smirk laugh and love.
This way the medical abusers who weren't eligible the first time can be put in for this round.
Merit is the death of the police department.
Smelling must be trying to promote his hacks before he leaves...Same ol Crap in this Corrupt Dept.
Old school says...
How about just earning it.
Any truth to the rumor that captains are going to be handling all district trrs? They are doing the firearm pointing incidents now. I guess it makes sense to have them handle the things that are the most important incidents that occur in the district.
Who will Lisa A put in this time??? Another 5 year wonder who never put one day in on the floor? Her wall of honor is growing. One at call back for PPP loans. One at call back for a hot drop. One on the medical or family leave more than he’s been on the job. One that turned down coming back to go to another unit? One she wanted to bring back who cleared one case and refused to do ANY paperwork on it?How about some putting some support behind people who have actually done some work for you on the floor to make you look good? Nahhhhh!
This sums up the current Det test situation as well. Having another test so soon after the last, barely getting 300 deep destroys any morale left. Lot of good veteran coppers who did well getting screwed.
Who cares? If you see the system working you do your 20, and gtfo!!!! The system is rigged against you, the sooner you see it the better off you’ll be. This is not a career to be proud of any longer. It’s just … a job.
When you dongo. Make sure you collect that extra week they withheld with this little paydate move.
This is mostly DEI with a hint of Shackman. Always has been and always will be. Beck had it right when he canceled it. These clown brought it back full force. Blame your unions for not tackling the issue. The whole process is a scam. They know exactly who's being selected and waste and handfuls time putting in packets that go straight to the trash.
That means she’s been told who to pick.
Who are you kidding? The ENTIRE department thinks they're geniuses just ask them. I bet you are a genius as well and could do better than ANY supervisor out there.
All names and the score from the merit interview should be made public. Also, the rank and file list should be made public when the scores come out. Why isn’t it?
Exactly.
LOL.
Agreed.
Dim witted people tend to come up with dim witted ideas. Show us your muscles Larry and yo lil black book of appreciative ladies from the academy days.
I would disagree as I believe a lot bosses now come from merit (or “special study” groups) so it’s exactly where they came from !
That is what they are doing. Giving them a better life but most don’t realize it. When someone gets an undeserved promotion it changes everything for them and all while taking it from somebody who studied.
You would think more people would realize this.
Just gets me sick, how the idiots keep moving ahead.
But still a liberal POS
3/4 of the department just want it given to them.
It’s only going to get worse. We have become window dressing. Wait for the criminals to understand what’s going.
Well said.
The white shirts stick together.
Most will everyone kissing their @$$
Not every merit supervisor I had was bad, but every bad supervisor I had was merit
They do what they want.
The yearly efficiency or not efficiency is just a popularity rating. Whole thing is a joke.
It is getting worse with these one way bosses.
Lot of bad supervisors who don’t understand or care about the mission. They became supervisors so they can do what they want.
It’s just one big club. It’s all about white shirts.
I heard a white shirt telling another white shirt that they were smarter than everyone because they were promoted. He was a goof. His personal life was a train wreck. His wife was his boss.
Incompetence is the new way.
The whole promotion system needs revamping.
I can’t wait for a new mayor and a new superintendent. Johnson and snelling need to go.
You have dumb merit picks then those dumb merit picks get to pick even dumber people for merit. Our CPS educated command staff is probably reading at a 3rd grade level.
Interesting idea. You would think more people would like the idea.
Traditionally they went to 350-400 on Sgt and no higher than 100 on Lt. When they go higher than that you get really stupid people. Dump people only care about themselves.
Go in. Complete your tour. Do the minimal. Go home. Get paid. Repeat.
Follow me for more advice.
Maybe have both!!!
Oooooooooo! Do tell
I hope they put in d Hamilton from 4 caps for merit sgt. He would be a great selection. He can show everyone how things should be run since he has done so much for cpd !!!!
Reason number 157,831 why this place BLOWS….
The old way? You mean an envelope of cash to your politician?
As in, Shake that Thing?
Wait another 30 years, maybe things will change.
I'll have you know, I deserve my merit nomination. I did my 2 years on the street before being forced to working in the caps office.
Merit is not always bad if it is actually based on Merit… Just because a person can memorize General Orders doesn’t mean they can quickly apply it in common sense or life saving incidents…🤔🧐
My commander will only pick a tact boy for merit! Talk about leadership
We are in a situation where idiots are promoting more idiots. Dumb and dumber meet CPD.
Sorry... Off Topic. Hey Ken Barnass? Remember Me? And by the way, Fuck You Ken.
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Are we talking about the dc of the academy
Just do the best you can and retire. The heck with this once great profession. When I retire I’m moving.
My two cents with the system. I often don't post but being on for a very long time I have to say this. Merit was a great system by thought. I'm sure the original intention was to get hard workers who lead by example a fair shot. Somewhere along the way the system was unfortunately broken. The spots began to go to people who were drinking buddies, right color or gender, secretaries/drivers of bosses, inside people. I recall Michael Cronin moving up and never a harder worker than that man. Again, this is me I can't speak for anyone else. Was he perfect absolutely NOT but the man lived for this job and his gang and narcotics knowledge was next to none. He often sticks out as a worthy pick though before I get killed I know there were others probably more deserving. I know somewhere someone will say that he was a self promoter and anything else that can be said about a person. Even with all the bad that can be said no one can take away his love for this job. He was very well respected on the streets and among the rank. Now we have a Commander who climbed the ranks to a Commander spot using the merit system. Remind you he was a CAPS officer his whole career at a HS. This was recent. I'm sure the man is the salt of the earth and the greatest thing ever to be made but this is a prime example of so many stories about a broken merit system. What a knock to the police department in my opinion. Again who cares what I think. I don't mind the system I just want you to put the right person in. Pick someone who everyone respects and is a real leader. These new supervisors all want to be best friends with everyone but it just doesn't work that way sometimes you have to be firm and stick by your word. So if merit system stays make sure to pick the right girl or guy based on work ethic not anything else. Hardwork not friends.
When was the last time someone was demoted ( not by choice) ? Anyone know ?
The Merit Circus continues.
OT: anyone know what percent out raises are for 2026?
How come you get two paychecks and the rest of us get one?
And losing!
One last chance to get his people in!! Nothing new.
when does the merit LT request come out
He identifies as a radical, person of color, who is trans something or other
A good set of knee- pads are $30.00 at the Home Depot.
Oh, and don't forget .. a box of Kleenex.
Merits disgust me! They walk around with their pompous attitudes. Food for thought, between the cheaters, secret study groups, and the merits, the odds are really stacked against you. What is the real percentage of spots they are available for promotion? I would say less than 40.
I will never diddle anyone’s balls for a promotion. You don’t score high enough too bad! Study harder next time!
How about the guy who was on light/limited duty, gets picked for merit promotion, goes back full duty, gets his stripes and assignments, then back to light/limited duty. Just another example in a very broken system.
Very true
Larry remember all the stress he went through while preparing for his merit sgt and Lt promotions. He just wants to simplify the process for those who follow his path.
Going up to 900 was crazy. Top 200 and do another test.
"they a geniuses." Spoken like a true genius.
Det. Is no different kid. I work with lots of dummies.
That’s not the best spot in the department anymore.
How merit picks are done in the 24th district should be commended. She excludes inside personnel from her picks and instead picks from the tact/robbery teams and FTOs.
In many instances, graduating recruits are smaller in statue, plump, unimpressive and reminiscent of a high school graduating class.
Merit promotions are the surest way to continue to solidify incompetence, mediocrity, lack of supervision and piss poor leadership. The Democrat Socialist administration and the lap-dog media continue to have a choke hold on the Department, and the citizens sit on their ass and let it happen. You get what you deserve.
OT just saw this. Pretty good statement
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTS6k9qjG0F/?igsh=MWlmb3g3MzRmMml0OQ==
The system was designed to take care of the clouted. It was never designed to pick the "workers." The mayors office has always controlled the promotions. Back in the day the cash envelopes, rigged promotion tests, special study groups, secret test questions, leaked tests, etc. controlled promotions. Times have change, so the political class had to come up with this merit scam. This is Chicago and we all know what Paddy Bauer said decades ago and his words are just as true today as they were back in his day.
What!!!!! Like sleep and hang out at the station while the rest of us are handling all the jobs with no breaks !!!
You must work in a good unit, you probably don't deserve to be there either.
Let it go already AC.
Richie Scotch breath a Double Merit promoted hack!!!
Y are you using exclamation points? I can hear your jealousy from here.
Very insightful
Clutch Cargo Says:
Only in Chicago would the term “Merit” be used erroneously 95% of the time, in lieu of the correct term Political “Correctness”. Meritorious promotion my ass, and giant jaw
Very random comment about someone who’s been retired for a long time now. You’re still holding a grudge after all this time? And what’s with the link? Really odd.
That’s how it should be.
Ummm that’s how Part 2 of the test works, the part that actually counts.
The kissing bandit will diddle for a promotion!
its 2026 and this dept run by the most incompetent leaders continue to promote based on bullshit!
Did the light-duty detective (C.D)detailed to the medical section clear the medical to submit her merit packet? She clears the medical each time there’s a request for merit packets, and then get a note from her doctor to go back on light duty.
That’s not the best spot in the department anymore.
1/11/2026 03:31:43 PM
Not like it used to be but if you have some seniority still better than pride parade front and center and days off canceled all summer...Plus pay same as SGT....
LT and Det still tops...maybe Det. Sgt and Det LT with the take home car (not violent crimes)
Who? LOL
Just get out of patrol, find a spot, study if you like, use the tuition reimbursement and leave ASAP after 20 or before if you can.
I wonder now that Ed Burke is out of prison, how many merit picks he gives out. He has likely been sitting on a long list for some time.
The entire system is bullshit from the get-go. Triple merits choose triple merits, and so on and so on. Like George Carlin said, "It's a big club, and you're not in it"
Shut up already motormouth. People like you don’t deserve to be on this job.
Prob should. Why should a dogass who dodges jobs on afternoons get the nod? Sorry, usually the workers get it. At least when I was around that’s how it was.
That would be a relief to the WOLS, who get their asses kicked with those things in the busy districts. I can hear the Captains crying now.
Some of the worst supervisors i ever dealt with made it on score; great test taker but lousy cop and worse supervisor.
This is probably true. He only cares about his race and none other. All you have to do is look at his hires and inner circle at the hall, and most dept heads. Larry might be leaving soon and might have some people he wants made before he leaves.
Tell her to come to 017. The commander here only picks his boys from 010 he brought along. Never mind the tact team is the only reason he even looks good in comp stat. Now he’s acting area 5 deputy too? What a joke. Mighty Mouse would be rolling around in his grave ( God Rest his soul).
J Hamilton is ruining narcotics everyone avoids her as they should
Merit. Let's call it what it is: a clout laundering operation with a respectable name.
The original pitch was finding hidden talent the test might miss. What it became is a shadow promotion track. One path rewards studying and competing. The other rewards knowing the right people at the right time.
Look at the exempt ranks. Really look. How many commanders, deputy chiefs, chiefs got there by testing? Very few. Because there's no test past lieutenant. You test, you hit a ceiling. You know people, the escalator goes straight to the top. That's not a bug, that's the system working exactly how they want it.
And now Snelling opens a second round of merit picks? Word is he and the Chief of Patrol are on their way out. This isn't about overlooked talent. It's a going-out-of-business sale. One last chance to take care of your people before you lose the juice to do it. Cash in your chips while they're still worth something.
That's merit in its purest form. Not what you know, not what you've done, but whether your sponsor still has a chair when the music stops.
Meanwhile some sergeant who scored top 20, studied for months, competed against thousands, paid Bernstein, he watches number 847 get the call because the politics lined up this week.
A test ain't perfect. But it doesn't ask who your rabbi is.
For sure.
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Fk this city and fk this corrupt administration. Workers get fkd while the inside people get made. Shame on Heineken, Snelling and Ms. Piggy.
I was told the merit process is extremely stressful. If given the chance I’d be grateful.
Genius, this has nothing to do with Snelling. The Consent Decree demands promotional exams to be had every few years. That’s why the cut off is around 350.
Spot on‼️💯 “Some folks will throw rocks then play the victim when they get hit back..w/ the same rock”
Can We simply vote on merit promotions❓
Lets promote more suck ups...tact/robbery/burglary...go out and get more drunks and piss bums! Next lets promote do nothing CAPS officers!! Another joke.
If you cant pass a test with at least 70%, then obviously you dont know much about Police Work and GO's.
How much lipstick and Knee Pads have you bought???
3.1%
5%
It was a Monday at 9 am and I received a call from Personnel before they changed its name to HR? During this call I was asked why I had not arrived and if I was going to report to the Academy for my promotion to Detective? What was more concerning was that the person calling me was a Sergeant, and did not know I was already promoted to Sergeant three years earlier. And that I took my retirement. Sorry, but if you think these exempt staff are smart you’re a fool? They then surround themselves with another level of incompetence who actually run the department and screw it up more. Living large in the Sun.
Still the worst merit pick in the last 10 years is Sharon Price. Failed everything in the academy, had to have the special tests. Then her illustrious career of doing nothing as a PO. Literally had no idea how to do anything police related. She is an abomination. If any real journalists are out there, look up her activity before she was promoted, then ask the city what she did to qualify for the promotion. Other than being Dana Stark's sister in law.
Getting rid of Merit would be great, however how do you get rid of Cheating? Because those who are connected would get the answers to the test.
I would direct my Lt. to handle this task. I’m a Capt. Fuck that.
Similar experience myself. 4 years on the job I get a call from recruiting or HR asking if I still plan on attending my next power test. These people must just be cold calling anyone. The incompetence of all the inside units and their supervisors on this department is really on full display.
Sunday Funday kicking in already 😂
ok loburgio
1. I assume you are on TAC. If the TAC team is the only reason he looks good at CompStat, STOP doing work.
2. If the 017 CMDR only takes care of is boys, then bid out and have others bid out. People will notice and it won't be your problem anymore.
3. No one can stop you from putting in your name for consideration. Submit a packet to the front office. They cannot refuse to accept it.
They do take care of their own
Originally they tried to sell the real concept by promoting to Lt a Sgt who I think was from Nacotics who was a hard charger, knowledgeable guy who had been shot in the line of duty saying this is why we promoted him which was great but the others promoted weren’t and haven’t been. Most are clout
Kleenex I’m betting for LT and above that would be necessary
cynthia curry big do nothing taken care her whole career merit sgt merit lt n now scewing over officers in iad
Another merit fool. As a PO in 189, all she did was buy 2 bags of dope with no time on and complain about everything. She has had numerous bites of the merit and unit apple.
Name specifics! Lol
Not anymore, lately it's been one or maybe two merit application periods for the whole list.
Jealous
Yes , maybe 10% merit for people that scored over 70%.
Not a score of 55% for sergeant and now 63% for lieutenant.
Portland I'd 96 % white. So it's OK. He's a liberal pussy so it works.
Cronin wasn't merit, he wasn't even a sergeant . Phat Phill made him a Deputy because he was his guy, the end.
You could be the World's Greatest Cop and if you ain't got the juice, or the will to study, the district tact team will be your ceiling.
I think we should make all the people who whine about CTA Special supervisors so they show us all how to lead.
The damages Dana O’Malley has caused this department are unbelievable. She’s the one up top making all the stupid decisions.
Knee pads are out of stock.
Facts.
That's actually exactly what it means you mouth breather. Instead of the guy who knows what to do, lets go with the guy who has no fucking clue and will just make it up, but he's cool cause his dad was a LAPA god and he worked in narcotics. You know the place where job you're doing has almost zero resemblance to district patrol.
“The original pitch was finding hidden talent the test might miss.” WRONG!
When affirmative action was ruled illegal, merit became the new game to promote those with clout.
The reason you are not merit is you are looking for a rabbi, in ChiRaq you need a Chinaman.
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