Where's the Manpower?
These numbers would certainly alleviate manpower shortages at the District level:
- Fun fact: CPD has 145 Full Duty Sgt’s and 480 Full Duty Police Officers assigned or detailed to a unit within PSHQ. What-the-ever-loving-crap is going on at HQ that you need that many full duty people. That’s the equivalent of two entire districts covering 3 watches in one building, that primarily works M-F, 7am-3:30pm.
Under the "Consent Decree," the optimal span of supervision (officers overseen by a supervisor) is supposed to be something between 5-to-1 and 8-to-1.
Most Districts we worked in, it was closer to 10-to-1.
HQ is 3.3-to-1 which is ridiculous with HQ sergeants doing between one-third and one-quarter of the supervisory tasks, not to mention there are few (if any) interactions with the public that would end up as Log numbers of something requiring actual....you know....supervision.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
121 Comments:
Afraid to work the streets.
I guess it pays to be a coward in this administration.
That house mouse at 35th St an my paycheck are the same.
If you have to ask you obviously just joined the conversation.
1/3 of department works inside and does nothing
1/3 works inside and pushes all the paper
1/3 work the street.
Crackdown on fresh a year out of the academy hot cheeto types getting assigned inside spots right out of the gate it’s tiresome. I get promises are made mistresses have to stay close so the wife never finds out but enough is enough. Let the vets with a few years left ride it out but the ivory tower needing that many blue shirts is ridiculous.
MF RIDICULOUS
HEY SARGE, Don't forget!
I have baby sitting issues.
I NEED to leave by 2pm on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday! ALSO, I can't make to work until 900am on Monday and Friday. Also, DON'T FORGET Sarge - today is my Friday !!!
And don’t forget how many Commander and Captain spots they have there as well given to special people who have the exact responsibility they had while working there as a lower rank…
While your point is valid, the consent decree is quite clear that it requires 10:1. “360… CPD’s staffing model will identify methods to implement unity of command and a span of control ratio of no more than ten officers to one Sergeant for all field units on each watch in each of CPD’s patrol districts.”
Meanwhile you have beat cars riding 99 on all watches
Backlogs all the time
No backup available to respond to 1a jobs.
Everyone at HQ is a bum. They probably flex they are the big bad CPD to their friends and family
But don’t know shit about policing.
Homan is like that too, bunch of ass kissers, grade A professional ass kissers like no other.
The Gold Stars are idiots and run the place. Take away the Gold Braid Pensions. No pension payout higher then Lt. save the pension. No one deserves that much money. They aren’t worth it.
It's a special club, and you ain't in it... -- Geo. Carlin
Awe, SCC... you stopped short of all the (useless) LT's and above that add to the redundancy
The ducking quotient for Sgts at HQs is much higher so you need that many Sgts to cover for each other.
And this is just being discovered now?
Talk about missing the obvious. How long have working police officers and tax paying citizens been complaining about this? Such a shame
7am til 3:30pm..::::SCC you are making me laugh. That would be an 8 and 1/2 hour day. Please stop as my stomach hurts from laughter.
What’s the ratio of Sgt & POs @ warehouse on 39th and Michigan?
Don’t forget about the academy. We like to complain about CPS waste but you’ve got how many instructors teaching one class ? 15 minutes each and then your done for the day. Don’t get me started on supervisors assigned to the academy too! Run the numbers. The chicago police department is fully staffed, just mismanaged personnel. Mayor Johnson if you want to layoff police, start with these lazy stealing officers and leave the working police alone. These do nothing officers are a drain on the taxpayers of Chicago
All these tough talk about sending mice out.
The district mice are untouchable. The only way to create an even playing field is to strip the mice of stipends and duty availability. They should be paid 30% less as well.
There, some financial savings Brandumb!
PO ‘ s are in cushy spots and want to stay there. Know a guy who downloads videos and wants to stay there till retirement.
at hq if 1 sgt has to watch/supervise 4 p/o's that sgt really only has to watch 2 because those other 2 have more clout than the sgt does so they get to do whatever they want
All the detailed at PSHQ are what you call Ass-Kissers and future Merits.
But if those Sgt’s don’t have their cushy do nothing jobs at headquarters does that mean they would actually have to work in a district and do something? How many of them there have ever worked the street more than a year? That would be an interesting fact. And they are the ones making decisions on what is done on the street. That’s why things are so messed up. I know Sgt’s with over 20 years of Sgt’s time on the street and not once has HQ asked for their opinions on what needs to be done That’s why it will never get better!
I don’t think you can refer to it as manpower when referring to all the cowards hiding inside. Men and women alike.
I can remember numerous times on 3rd watch where there was only 1 Sergeant logging the entire watch and sometimes also the tac team if their Sgt dropped a slip. That's between 15-20 cars mostly 10-4 units. I hit the button in early 2021.
Shameful!!
A simple check of PC login and logout times should be very revealing as to the activity of these administrative parasites. Any data analyst worth a nickel could pull up activity by the individual and see what exactly we are getting for their “essential” duties.
Let’s not forget the fact it is one of the most poorly run places in the city, next to the McDonald’s across the street. Have you tried to get anything done in there? It’s like not one copper knows what they are supposed to be doing or has any fucking direction to get it done. Walking in that building sometimes made me feel better that those handjobs were not on the street. Keep them where they belong. Your safety DEPENDS on it.
Privatize any administrative positions at HQ. CPS overstaffed and plenty of empty classrooms. I think someone qualified as a teacher should be able to teach from PowerPoints right? I don’t need some guy who worked a beat car for a couple of years and maybe a year in Tac to read to me. I also don’t need that person preaching to me about officer wellness after they got 8 hours of sleep because their work schedule permits them the luxury of working minimum stress free hours. While we work midnights, forced to work extensions, go to court on our days off.
Clear out the Mayors detail. We would get a 100 officers back
This fake consent decree has done absolutely nothing except create bull shit positions for outsiders to make money.
Just check some of their social media pages. Filled with cute pictures of them with their sleeve tattoos and wearing the uniform the so don’t deserve to wear. You call yourself a man? Clown
But then how will they afford their vacations, nice cars etc. Any man working in that building should wear a skirt to work!
Don’t forget the medical abusers…it will skew the 1/3’s
I would love to see a place that actually is able to follow this
Keep Dreaming
Don’t forget the I have kids, so I need to be off Sunday, all the single guys can work because their less important then me.
And next Wednesday is her " "Furlough Friday" .. "can I leave at 10am boss?"
~~ Fuck, I am so glad to be retired and away from these crybaby assholes! 🤣
An old adage. Eighty percent of the work is done by twenty percent of the department
That department is long gone.
Why the fuck does shithead need an entire district guarding his dumbass Im sure he is a hero to all the dogass section 8 and criminal assholes
Was a white shirt in unit like that and had nothing but “scholarship players”. Some of them had no problem telling me what hours they could work. Starting times were either 0730 or 0830. If babies Momma had an early start I would hear about sitters and what time they were available.
People had to be reminded that this was still a job and maybe they should call babies Daddy if there was problem with a sitter.
Disagree, I want a sworn police officer with over 20 years of street experience teaching me. Also, I do not want a retired police officer that is now a civilian teaching me. I only have respect for Rambo’s that were not medical roll abusers.
Patrol… the butthole of the Department. Where you are treated as such. Everyone else shall be catered to.
That was the reason why they did it.
These people have spent the majority of their careers trying to loacte a safe spot inside. They arent good for nothing else anymore. Fire them or lay them off. Youll be doing CPD a huge pavor.
It would be sad if it werent so true
Maybe the 1/3 in the last group should reconsider their approach to the job. If you can’t get off the street during the course of a 30 year career, it’s on you.
Lol, keep telling yourself that anyone who betters themselves on this job is a coward.
Dont forget to pick up the bosses dry cleaning before you leave. And make sure that you here sometime before Noon tomorrow. We need someone to pick up lunch at Ricobenes.
It’s an issue of a woman’s hypergamy and the lust of a married man. It’s a simple barter. Hook me up and I’ll hook you up if you catch my drift. EJ used to get serviced right in his office. Words right from him not me.
Clear the in house side chicks we’d get 400 officers back.
How many take home cars are also involved in this fiasco?
Don’t hate the player. Hate the game.
Putting it another way…don’t blame the police who get the spots inside…blame the politicians who allow it to happen!!!
Just make the entire department 12 hours and be done with it. It’s coming whether you like it or not.
How many of those Sgt’s are assigned to BIA?
They will have to send them out on the street. They can’t afford to hire any new Officers. They owe us 600 Million for the VRI back pay. The judge already ruled on that one. The Sgt’s and Lt’s are more than 4 years past due for a contract. They will get massive raises and will be owed 250 Million in retro pay.
I’m curious to see if it’s true that Officers with 29 years on the job will get medical even if they’re not 55 years old? I heard the big push by the FOP next contract will be either 29 years on the job or 60 years of age. No more of letting people with only 20 years on get medical at 55 years old. It only makes sense that you should get it at 29 years on and not 20!
9 th district LT useless 3 rd watch hides so many while old timers are forced to the streets they should be ashamed
We need true leadership from the top to the bottom. We need Chiefs to commanders multi tasking. For example you do not need a Commander at O'Hare/Midway the closest district commander could handle it. A constant rotation of anyone who is working inside to a beat car that would include every rank. Each district that is short would report it's percentage and request for help. In district community policing and anyone working as the commanders staff gets a constant rotation into patrol no matter what. The ratio should be 60 percent patrol and 40 percent inside and chill. All these 200k pensions will bankrupt us plus most are not even deserving of a PO pension.If these multi tasking changes do not happen asap everyone will we overworked and layoffs will happen.
First of all, there’s a back log all the time because people stay down on jobs. Second of all, there’s nothing big and bad about the CPD or this job anymore. That reputation died right along side this profession in Dec 2014. So be a good boy and clear up now. That mental call is waiting for you.
Another guy complains about cowards, lol. If you can’t figure a way to better yourself and make this stupid job work for you, that’s on you.
Nothing is going to change
If u pushed the button in 2021 than why would u waste your time on this site. Live your life and forget about this shit hole
Take home cars, arrive late, depart early, running errands, two hour lunches, shopping on line, working out, gossiping, back stabbing, getting to work special details, smoke or coffee breaks every hour, picking up the bosses laundry and kids, it's exhausting.
When that building opened every cubicle was occupied and the parking lot was filled. CFD rented office space at 35th and State.
DOJ should eliminate all departments consent decree
Don’t get me started on Sgt sleepy Flo
I was a sergeant in Austin in the 90's. Two page logs were not uncommon. Ten would be a light day.
All DEI personal at head quarters.
Be a boss and kick all the cowards to the street oh that’s right that would mean having some balls and there’s not a boss that has any
Did I just hear ass kissing? Sorry. I just got excited. I have to go lie down now. I think I am getting a case of the vapors.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Your numbers fail to include the limited duty personnel, so HQ units really have over 650 PO’s and 175 Sgt’s (not including civilians titles & civilian managers, Ass. Directors, Directors, Deputy Directors, Managing Directors & Executive Directors).
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A hidden perk for supervisors assigned to headquarters is that they are often listed as "covered" on the books during what are essentially work-from-home days. Meanwhile, the supervisors and officers working in patrol continue to carry the workload. Keep up the great work, guys and gals in patrol.
Every Friday is our Friday at 3510! Best feeling in the world walking out at 1400 on Friday knowing you aren’t going back until Monday! 35104LIFE!
Only reason a lot of us in 125 are here is because the city could no longer afford to pay the civilian IT city employees. We make half what most were making and do the same job. If we went private sector we would make more but wouldn’t get the pension. Send me back to a beat car, you’ll still be complaining about having to work with me!
I’m not afraid, these hours are just WAY better! Give me days and weekends off and I’d go back in a heartbeat! Way easier money to answer calls. Grass isn’t always greener on the other side and you haven’t been on this side.
Exactly! Some of us 9161s have more than 2 sergeants “supervising” us plus a few lieutenants, and multiple Commanders, Deputies, etc. it’s ridiculous to get anything done for everyone at the same time. Send some to the street so we can actually get our work done and take a lunch.
They’ve been saying that for 20+ years since I started at HQ. Reality is every spring the Mayor/City Hall wants to send officers back to the street and every year at budget time they lay off or offer early retirement to civilian city employees to trim the budget, those jobs have to get done and regularly are filled by qualified POs who can do the job. Not every PO joined the CPD after high school. Many of us are trained white collar professionals who had normal jobs before joining and are afforded the opportunity to do those jobs within CPD- accounting, nursing, graphic artists, IT technicians and programmers, some of us lawyers even get a pay bump to do the work in legal affairs. There are plenty of sworn jobs that would be done by civilians and are done by civilians in other cities - airport LE, ETs, Mobile Crime Lab, helicopter unit, district SCDC rooms could be all civilian analysts. Etc.
Deputy Chief Parham the PPP Loan scammer, with his B.S. crime charts:
Loan Amount $20,832
Business Name ANDRE PARHAM
Location Chicago, IL 60615
NAICS Code [Industry] 813990 [Other Similar Organizations (except Business, Professional, Labor, and Political Organizations)]
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Owner Gender Male
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Lender Prestamos CDFI, LLC
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PPP [1st Round] $20,832
You must be new here. It’s not just being discovered now, it’s been hammered on for many years here. This is just another post to pile on.
That’s right baby! Don’t forget it either! You should be getting ready for roll call. I’ll be enjoying my sunny weekend off. Booyah
They need to be outed!!!
Assign everyone of them to 1700 to 0130hrs in the 12,16,17 and 22 districts.
Civilians should replace every sworn member at PSHQ, CityHall,Homan Square, Court Section. Civilian security does a great job at 911 center.
When you find yourself aligning with BLM, the abolish the police crowd, and the mayor, maybe it’s time to rethink some things. I agree there’s too much staff in the academy, but wanting to fire a bunch of police because you don’t like where they work when we are already a couple thousand understaffed? Again, you’ve found yourself agreeing with a mayor who said the police are a sickness that needs to be eradicated. It’s people like you why this city is the shithole it is. Keep voting democrat, it’s working out real well. You probably tell some old war stories about that one time you had a domestic arrest on signed complaints and then talk about how Kamala was the most qualified candidate for president ever. You democrats on this job are the worst. You’ll probably argue you're not a democrat and you’re “the real police”. But again, I’ll just point back to you agreeing with the mayor, BLM, Kamala, and the defund the police people. You’re on the verge on wearing an “AOC 2028” shirt. Loser.
Does the federal consent decree monitors know that merit supervisors, many now command staff scored between 50-69% on competitive exams created by outside agencies. These exams were all given with black mayors and black superintendent’s??
Get over it. You can hate all you want but my paycheck , my patch and my star all say the same as you. “Chicago Police”.
We at the Chicago Police academy staff have to attend certification classes which enables us to get to teach. We have to sit through the same PowerPoint presentations and they make us read every slide using the proper “police voice”. You all think it’s easy staring at a class full of officers knowing that we make the same pay that you all make for what we do while you get to risk you and your families well being.
All of the supervisors are needed for all of the meetings, community meetings, and other events that require "rank" to make happen. Even the community will not listen to a blue shirt at a community event or internal-city meetings...
Remember a lot of field units are part of HQ. The 542 and 543. The D-units instructional group that is not actually in the building.
And they will continue to “find problems” within the system in order to keep their jobs.
They can start off by detailing the full duty half the week. They can also put light duty on Districts where the desk is busy.
001, 007, 003, 008, 004, 016 and so on. This math you addcouple hundrrd people to the city shortage..
Right ? More like 4 hour duty day. How much time is spent in the gym ? HQ is a joke.
Three to four pages of Sgt’s logs. Only Sgt on the street in the ghetto in the summer. HQ needs emptied out.
Wooooooow… but seriously,,, Any one surprised?
Holy shit. This needs to be its own post. Damn Andre!
So much bureaucracy
There seems to be a pattern with these bad PPL loans and merit promotions
You got your head up your ass goofball.
You are a moron. Sell out Catanzara better not touch 55 and out health insurance. If he screws us on that, there would be no point in staying in this dump of a department. Think we are short now?
If the sgts in the districts work half tours, sgts in HQ work less.
Anonymous
I’m not afraid, these hours are just WAY better! Give me days and weekends off and I’d go back in a heartbeat! Way easier money to answer calls. Grass isn’t always greener on the other side and you haven’t been on this side.
7/25/2026 02:07:24 PM
Put in your par form Mr greener grass. When you took this job you knew the schedule. Somewhere along the way you just chose to have your balls removed and only act tough. Thanks for the laugh though.
Anonymous
Assign everyone of them to 1700 to 0130hrs in the 12,16,17 and 22 districts.
You know how many of these house mice came from 012? Consent decree unit has a bunch, the chick from “the awards” unit and the list goes on and on. Gun registration, the academy. 012 is the minor leagues for house mice. They train there and find their way to HQ and the academy.
Tact car picking up kid at Northridge.
Years ago when Ronnie Nash was the commander of 012th District, a Lady of the Evening was arrested & she asked the A/Os if they knew Nash & she told them that she serviced him 2 days before! They didn't believe her until she described his office completely including the plaques on the wall! Needles to say she went on her way!
Hey! Assmunch! I need me brand new 2026 front line for my call outs! They happen a lot in 125. And you’d be complaining if I didn’t answer to fix the computer networks when they go down and your and everyone else submit reports and other BS.
Who also work inside on their RDO’s or or bullshit foot post, while the rest of us have to work a beat car. Interesting how they always forget to put OT next to their names when working their RDO inside…
They’d see most SDSC people logging in or out halfway through their tour
Poor prior planning prevents piss poor performance. Dont marry a younger wife in your fifties and have children soon after. Best advice I ever got. The city offered us the 55 and out plan. We just took it. They will likely change it to 29 years on someday. Sorry kid. You'll never know what you missed.
No Sgt’s at 39th dummy. One civilian & 1 PO.
J. Murzyn the Smartest and hardest working officer in the City seen what was coming too HQ and had his clout JG move him over to the Warehouse on 39 Michigan. Now he gets to work both is RDOs there and doesn't have to work CTA.
It’s going to happen for 29 years for the medical. The deal is already done. You’ll get the medical at 29 years on or 57 1/2 years old. The deal is that instead of giving up 3.5 percent we will have to give up 5 percent. That’s a good deal for both sides. The Officers who got on at an early age will benefit and the city benefits because the Officers who were hired later on in life will have to work an extra 2 and 1/2 years. Both sides gain a little and lose a little.
When are we getting that back pay for VRI? Those retros checks are going to be big for the Sgt’s and Lt’s. They have to pay the Sgts 20 percent more than Detectives and Lt’s get 7 percent more than the Sgts. I’m guessing 350 million in back pay for supervisors.
Completely agree!
And what type of business and is it licensed does Parham actually have ?
Hey moron the deal isn’t done. The new contract starts next year
I love this deal. As an officer that came on young, I’m getting penalized for it. I have to stay 33 years to get the medical benefit. More than half my class are already retired enjoying the medical benefit. How is that fair?
You are a dumbass for doing a four page log. Don’t do one if they put you in that situation. Learn to grow a pair!!
Pension should be based on time working the streets. That would solve this. Working time in an admin spot should not count the same as working the streets. Working policeman and women deserve their pensions. Administrative personnel should have to do more time and get less. It’s only fair. Convince me I’m wrong
So is the short female Sgt SJ on days. Always up Lt JB ass
And when will it be finalized? What year?
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