And a Crying Shame This Is
- There are allegations of racial tension in the Chicago Police Department. Chicago police say they are investigating problems among officers who patrol on the city's West Side.
- Longtime Chicago cops tell ABC7 they cannot remember an internal racial problem like this spilling out into the public view, if only for a few seconds. It happened over the weekend as officers investigated suspected drug sales on the West Side. Black and white cops divided and a couple reportedly resorted to fisticuffs.
- Police officials at the nearby 15th District, who wished to remain anonymous, confirmed the fight and simmering racial tension between black officers here and white "special operations" cops from elsewhere who are detailed into the West Side to patrol certain areas.
First of all, we hope it isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be. Second of all, we worry it could be.
We have a stressful job people. And in a lot of situations, especially after a brawl and a co-worker getting hit in the head with an axe handle, we certainly aren't at our best. Emotions are running high as well as tempers and the urge to get some "payback" is at the forefront of everyone's mind. We're pretty certain that this isn't representative of most of the police who work in the 015th District or the Special Operations Section. But to let it get so out of hand at a already volatile crime scene is just damn unprofessional. Hopefully, it gets straightened out. And hopefully, everyone realizes that we are on the same team and situations like this degrade the operational whole of the entire organization.
We have a stressful job people. And in a lot of situations, especially after a brawl and a co-worker getting hit in the head with an axe handle, we certainly aren't at our best. Emotions are running high as well as tempers and the urge to get some "payback" is at the forefront of everyone's mind. We're pretty certain that this isn't representative of most of the police who work in the 015th District or the Special Operations Section. But to let it get so out of hand at a already volatile crime scene is just damn unprofessional. Hopefully, it gets straightened out. And hopefully, everyone realizes that we are on the same team and situations like this degrade the operational whole of the entire organization.
46 Comments:
It's embarrassing to see this happen, if true. I worked the westside in the 90's, there was no white, black or hispanic, only BLUE. When you called for help, I could care less who was coming through that door, because even the pooches knew, shit, could happen at any moment. Call it a family mentality or a sense of self preservation, you went because the last thing you wanted to see was one of your own get hurt. To anyone who wants to make a "racial" issue out of this then, as my momma always told me "go play in traffic".
Agreed d-gaf! Worked westside in the 90s and we were all on the same page. Even when cops disagree I thought we didn't discuss it with the outsiders (ANYONE who is not us!) What happened to "What happens in (and around)the squad stays in the squad?" The blue wall (of silence) WAS about the only thing left on which we all seemed to be united. I know a conspiracy of silence doesn't seem like a great selling point to outsiders but it is a testament to brotherhood.
If my history serves me correctly, Chicago was the first major city to hire a Black officer. Back then however, Black officers were only alllowed to arrest Black people. FYI.
it was probably an argument about who had more 1 rock pinches.
This wouldn't surprise me at all. I see it all the time, as I am sure everyone here see's it. Maybe not out in the open as is alleged but you know, the comments people make in passing, the cliques in all the districts. Hell even a certain detective Sgt in area 4 lays it out in the open constantly, which by the way I am surprised nobody has done something about that, but then they can't because of who he is married to and who her father is. This is not a shock to me or anyone, just kind of surprising it has leaked out to the public.
As member of the Chicago Police Department I can remember sitting in my homeroom on the first day the Acadamy and having my homeroom instructor rattle off every racial slur I knew and some I didn't. He then said that as Police Officers we should have thick enough skin to be able to handle being called names by the citizens and possibly by fellow Officers. He then instructed the class to take 10 minutes to think about what he had just said and if we couldn't handle being called names no matter what they were,we should quit and leave. When we got back from our break there was one empty seat. Now this was back in 95 and I have personally witnessed racial incidents between white and black officers, but never in public.There will always be tensions and verbal outbursts in the heat of battle but we as Police Officers need to remain united in public and then settle our differences out of the publics eye if it has to come down to that.When I call for help I don't care what color of skin the Coppers have, I just want them to show up and help just as I have done for the last 11 years.
It is ridiculous, SOS already has enough negative heat right now, this makes us all look bad. Enough with the ego already.
I am white. I have black guys on my team. We all do the job and love it.
But for ANY Officer to take the side of the drug dealering thugs over the side of his fellow Officers is outright disgusting. "Officers" like that should be fired.
Right is right and wrong is wrong. Some things are black and white.
Sadly, the hiring process lets through many without the ability to understand "the law" and many officers don't understand that the best way to improve conditions in troubled areas is to enforce laws and let the peacefull, law abiding residents live in crime-free peace. 002nd District Commander M. Perry was always saying above all officers should be "compassionate." Nope. Above all officers should enforce laws to give those good people in the ghetto hope for a better tommorrow. Most black leaders (and many black cops) don't understand the reality. The only way to rise above is to take a stand. Be men.
Racial tensions are becoming prevalent on the dept. In the 80's I feel we worked better alongside of one another and for the greater part we backed one another up. There were a few among us years ago, who were militant but for the most part recognized the blue within all. I have seen greater issues coming from the officer's with less than 10 yrs. on.
Many of us work and play well together. Although there are those who are spending way to much time siding with the offender's openly.
We have a job to do together and to make sure we all go home safely. Unfortunately it's been turned upside down by bleeding radical liberals who have also entered into the law enforcement arena.
The changes I have been seeing of late are becoming distorted and lopsided. There seems to be an inability to separate one self in uniform and ones self taking up a cause to which we should be able to move beyond as professionals, instead of you against us and vice verse.
Hope this settles down but it does look like there have been more instances of those striking out, who feel they were discriminated against somewhere in the past and can't get beyond the pay back mode in spite of it not being safe or professional. Hope all gets sorted out if this did occur for the good of the Blue rank and file.
There are alot of people who should be ashamed of themselves.
1. The media for putting such nonsense on tv and stirring the pot.
2. The coppers in 015 for giving the animals fuel to be put on the fire. If you have a beef with a co-worker take it to the rear parking lot and go a few rounds.
3. The upper brass for allowing our department to be continually bashed from all angles and never doing anything about it.
I say boycott all tv news programs. if we got the 13k or so of us along with all our family members that would put a nice dent in their ratings!
Media shame on you
Bosses shame on you
coppers fighting coppers in front of the animals big shame on you!
wake the heck up ladies and gents
This may not be as much racial as evidence of the resent that District Officers have of TRU and SOS people. Some of the young officers in these units suddenly think they are supercops once they are out from under close supervision and District people resent it. Also it does seem like these two units are predominently white and hispanic.
What do you expect, just look at the comments that were once posted on this blog from white officers about the "animals" or "beast" and you know how they really felt.
In my opinion if it is proven that they treated the people by showing their true color..FUCK THEM.
If the oficers from the 15th district want to protect these racist ASSHOLES and let them get away with this then you shouldn't complain when it happens again because you had a chance to teach those ASSHOLES a lesson.
SCC I guess you probably won't print this comment.
When I worked on the Westside, we had racist White and Black cops. Buuuuut, for eight hours a day they put their fellings aside. I remember calling for help one night and the only guys who were available and showed up were all black. The same militants Blacks who did not particularly like Whites. They pulled me off the Black guy I was fighting and proceeded to pummel him to a pulp.
There sould only be one color on this job, at least for eight hours a day. Blue and only Blue.
Anonymous said...
it was probably an argument about who had more 1 rock pinches.
8/09/2006 12:21:08 AM
now THAT's what I'M talkin' about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMFAO.
SCC..I published a comment reflecting what happened on the scene! You obviously did not want that published...show's how racist you are too!
This is nothing new. Years ago the district personnel had problems with the SOS predecessor, Task Force. The situation was very similar. Task Force would come into a district for a period of time, the residents became upset, and the district had to deal with the residue. There is no doubt that some of those assigned to these nomadic police units cause problems by their arrogant attitudes and lack of connection to the neighborhoods they police. That notwithstanding, there is no excuse for losing control at a critical time. Is there anything worse at a chaotic scene than the police becoming part of the problem? The idea is to carry the day. Indulge yourself later.
Perhaps in the new world of the PC blog, it would be a good idea to purge all references to the “beast” and the “animal.”
I would just like to clarify one thing it was not officers from 015 it was an officer (1). And I worked there and know him and he is how can I put it politely, a goof. Anybody who does surveillance off duty because they live there in 015 has too much time on their hands or another agenda altogether. And yes I know this for a fact. There are alot of great guys in 015 and in SOS and I hate to see the reputation get blasted once again.
5:07- Sounds like a civilian troll who's been over at my blog of late, dropping clueless commentary. He/she is truly ignorant of what the police are all about. It appears that it doesn't like the police anyway. It believes that we're all "power drunk" authoritarians.
It left this little ditty on my blog back on 27July:
Fuck me? No, fuck you and people such as yourself who think you have the power to illegally violate the rights of innocents by attempting scare tactics and abusing power.
On second thought, come arrest me for taking legal pictures of you. You and this perp MOS can be co-defendants at the trial, and can carpool to the unemployment agency afterwards.
Now, it's probably time to ban me and erase this message. GG, hero.
It is a sure sign that you are a real jerk when I see that, without actually being there and not actually ever working in a highcrime area, you go calling police officers who you do not know racist assholes. Here is some math homework that may help:
50% of west side residents don't like white people but appreciate the police.
20% of west side residents are hardcore criminals who hate the police and, hate white people.
That means 70% of an area you tour as a white officer actively and passionately hate you for the color of your skin. You could say "yes, sir" "no, ma'am" to them until you're blue in the face and it would make no difference. In their eyes, you're the problem. You're the one who took their uncle to jail last week. You're the one who won't let them sell rocks on the corner, or hang out with 10 of their friends and drink in the street. You're the one who Reverend Meeks says profiled him and put a gun to his head. The media never mentioned that Meeks' bodyguard tail pulled up behind the officer's squad car and 2 bodyguards got out and stood behind the officer's car. In effect they surrounded the sergeant in an attempt to intimidate him, or worse. The bully pulpits of the black churches are preaching victimhood to their congregations and continuing the bullshit that lynchings are still going on, that slavery is alive and well....
So now, who are the racists?
Oh! And I forgot one more thing : Go fuck yourself, "chief"!!!
I don't want to call people on here liars but let's remember the great 015 back in the 90's I was there have we forgotten the problems the 1st watch had on Madison avenue when our fellow black officers from 011 used to drink there off duty? Now say what you want but I have a tape of a 15th dist. car calling for help and I don't want to break any bubbles here but all the black officers that night either put themselves down on reports or some such bullshit and the only cars that went to help were the white officers. That's a fact.That incident of course was turned into a racial incident by black bosses and black ministers. Like the guys working could help that only white officers responded to a call for help. I also remember many times where 011 district cars would show up in 015 because the "people" would page them rather than call 911. Now having seen all this I will also give you other's who know about showing up at west side dope spots only to be confronted by 011 black officers who were paged by the dope dealers. Of course there were words between the working coppers and the dope protecting coppers all the time. Matter of fact one copper who now works a 1669 car can tell you guys all about this shit. As far as us being all "blue" and not airing this out in public, well I say bullshit cause I remember the black coppers picketing 015 back in the 90's with out good friend Rev. Jakes. So not sure what west side you guys worked but that is how it was and still is. Gang banging dope dealer protecting cops work the west side. And the "G" knows it and so does 35th street but nobody has the balls to stop it because it would be turned into a racial incident.
Unfortunately it was a difference of opinion about whtether a "witness" should be allowed to go in her house and get a pair of shoes. One officer said no and the other said it was okay. (she was ultimately the one who ended up with a scratch, from a nail, on her ankle and said it was a graze wound) The supervisors on the scene should have quelled that one right away and taken both officers to the wood shed (in private)for their conduct and lack of professionalism.
Not all that much is just "imagined" when there are still districts where how many units responding to a 10-1 depends on the neighborhood it's called in. Or when people from OTHER districts respond to District XXX before its OWN POs will.
Sorry, there are plenty of black officers in TRU, there is a nice racial mix, actually.....
we are not without direct supervision, the Sgts. and LTs. are always out there with us...
01:45AM
95-3C empty seat in the back of the room in the corner...that was funny!!
Like most evryone else I was not present when all this occured but some of the things I've heard (purely second hand) Are disturbing. White officers using racial slurs at the public and using racial slurs in the presence of their Black collauges.How professional is that? As a African American and a Police Officer I for one would be offended. Being thick skinned is one thing, standing by doing or saying nothing while you're being directly or indirectly disrepected is another.Having said that,I like to think that this is an ISOLATED incident and not part of a growing problem in our Department.In the 17 years of my career I've worked with and for my share of Whites,Blacks,Hispanics,Asians,Arabs,Lesbians,and Gays. Most have been good experiences,some not. I can truthfully say that the majority of my fellow P.O.'s are professional when dealing with the public and with each other no matter what they might have thought of that particular persons race,culture,gender,or lifestyle.We ALL have predjudices I don't care who you are.But sometimes words can cause more damage than a bullet.(kinda like yelling fire in a crowded theater.)I guess all I'm trying to say is sometimes our personal opinions should be kept just that...personal. If we let ourselves become divided on the issue of race, THE MOPES WIN!! Not just the Black ones but every other kind too. When these guys attempt to hurt or ambush a cop they don't give a damn what color he/she is.(I know from personal experience.)We truly are ALL we have out here.Don't let your personal feelings get in the way of your professionalism.I'm not saying you've got to love or embrace anyone of a different race or culture,just be who you are. A Professional P.O.
Racial tension is high in some South and West side districts, it's unfortunate but true. It's hard for the workn poleeze to do their job when you hit a spot, enter a home or take a car down "all" for good reason and you run into off duty coppers "sleepn with da enemy" as some would put it. It's hard if your doing your narcotic investigation or slappn the cuffs on a bunch of gangsta's on the tip and you have coppers showing up doing the 7 part hand shank and hug with the gangsta's on the scene or questioning you why you have their cousin, uncle, friend or play cousin in the back of your squad. Then they follow you into the station being more than nozy if you know what I mean. The screening process in this city prior to hiring is a joke among other thingssssssss.
The officer "of color" sides with the drug dealing, gang-banging, ass-wipe "citizen" on the street..AND some former gang-banging, drug dealing, "community activist" is on T.V. praising him for standing up to the "man"(police department?) and say's he should be given an award for heroism!
I almost choked on my cornflakes! What-the-fuck?!
That is the problem..the assholes in these communities accept no blame for the condition of said neighborhoods..instead assigning blame to every one and everything but themselves! THERE IS NO PERSONNAL RESPONSIBILITY OR ACCOUNTABILITY ANYWHERE.
These same asswipe citizens then take and pressure good coppers "of color" and put some sort of "ethnic pressures" on them to "be one of us" or to "help a brother out"..then we see the coppers of color become "enablers" and allowing these law breakers to take over the communities because of lax enforcement..give them a foot and they take a mile!
I have seen this play out so many times that it's sick.
I also realize it isn't wide spread but more isolated. I also realize that some will say that I am stereotyping some fellow officers. So, I will add that for each officer "of color" contributing to the above syndrome there are just as many who ignore the race factors, (ex.such as fellow co-workers- ie.totally intollerant, white racist, asshole cops..we all know one..every district has one) and just do their jobs and just go home!
P.S. I have worked with black, hispanic, asian, and fellow white cops..and have had pleasant relationships and bad relationships with all, REGARDLESS of their Race or genders!
LET'S REMEMBER..WE'RE ALL BLUE..BOYS AND GIRLS! SO LETS PLAY NICE, JUST LIKE IN GRADESCHOOL!
AND JUST LIKE FAMILY LET'S KEEP OUR PROBLEMS PRIVATE.
Man, some of you guys should stay under your rocks. As SCC said, the scene was "already volatile". There are two separate issues here:
1. An SOS PO throwing fuel on a fire and pissing on some of his coworkers while he was at it;
2. A 015 PO throwing water on the fuel, the fire and the SOS PO.
Amazing how many of you guys seem to jump right on the 015 PO for daring to squirt the SOS guy with water, while completely ignoring the fact that the SOS guy could very well have started a freakin riot with his mouth (which could have gotten dozens of POs killed or injured).
You can take the race of the guy from 015 completely out of this story and he still made an impossible call in an impossible situation. Amazing how many are willing to jump on the 015 guy because the SOS guy got a little wet in the process. Amazing.
I have seen officers (black) stand by and laugh as a white officer was fighting for his life in 011th. dist.....The sgt. got a cr on the coppers for inattention to duty etc...they all took time and lucky for not being fired!! I am a supervisor now and I will tell you one thing right here and right now...ANY of my officers that would do something like what is described as going on in 015 would be in deep shit...I would get a # on them...plain and simple...if you can't get along ...mabye you need to find another job. We have enough problems fighting the criminals out there...if you don't back eachother up and sit by and watch other coppers fight for their life and laugh as he / she is getting served...than I will do everything in my power to fire you...you don't deserve to be a police officer....you are no better than the animals that we battle every day in the streets and if you want to act like one...then you need to be treated as such and GOD help you if I come across you....i swear on my kids that I will try as hard as I possibly can to get you fired....
Maybe if you spent more time on the streets and less time on your blog you would have prior knowledge of how bad the racial divide is. That battle cry of we're "all blue" does'nt fly when you see how some of the street scum goes to jail via creative searches and writing.Get a reality grip. We have those inside the ranks who believe how it gets done is wrong. Be legit or be ready to face the challenges and confidential phone calls. That's a fact.
it's true sos and tru is mostly white and hispanic. these units are staffed with aggressive self starters who like to work. you figure it out why there is a small representation of blacks in this unit.
20 some years ago there was no racial tension between the troops especially in 011. Everyone backed each other up and that's when a lot was still going on in the Rockwell Gardens. Sorry to hear what is happening now....ok, so what is management doing about this??
0527
Another rational person. This time with a Napoleon complex.
It all starts with the "little guy" on the 5th floor and the dumbing down of the police department. Additionally you will get "thrown under the bus" by Fat Phil if you make an honest mistake.
What about the corrupt police officers in 15 who were indicted and went to jail? The Deputy Chief was Radke and the Chief was Chiesa.
Nothing ever happended to them.
to 5:49
You wanna talk about racial divide then answer me this?.....
Why is it that a certain minority group only believes that their people should be locked up by their own people , yelled at by their own people or told to get off the corner by their own people? And why is it when "fill in the blank" P.O.'s can get better arrests than more than 85% of "their "people in "their" district then all of a sudden its creative writing or creative searches or the ever so popular they must have put that shit on him. What about good hard police work. You gotta get out of your car and do some work or leave your girlfriends house and go back on the street! Thats speaking from experience! 10 CTTL or 10 gamblers at a time doesnt cut it as police work you tool. You wanna drop a dime on someone then do it to "your own" people who are ex-bangers or the ones that you know....ride the other way when a hot call comes out. Or the ones that peel off alittle something for themselves from rival gangs so they can take care of "their" gangbanging people. Lets face it. There are gonna be tensions where ever you work.......BUT......here's the real truth, they dont want to police "their people" all they wanna do is collect a check and they certainly dont want "fill in the blank" P.O.'s to police them. I have worked with many officers over the years who could not have given a shit if it was "their people " being locked up. I'd want those guys with me by my side any day of the week when the shit hits the fan! Some of the best guys out there but unfortunately the majority really dont do anything except collect a check, hurry up to burn those 2 precious personals, get the ever important car wash and always look down on "fill in the blank" P.O.'s for locking up "their people". Not speaking from anger, but only from experience! I wish all people on the job of all colors to be safe and always keep their head up! Blue should be the one and only color! I am not a racist nor a hater by any means but I'm sick and tired of being looked down upon because I am "fill in the blank" and I show enjoyment and pride for the job which translates to "other people" as racism. All of "you" people need to point the finger at yourselves for creating a racial tension.......SHAME ON YOU!!!!
It's about time the issue of race has been brought out into the open and not kept behind closed doors being discussed by the black officers. The Chicago Police Department is a very racist organization and that's no secret, at least to the black officers. There are two sets of rules: One for the blacks and One for the whites. CPD will shake their "ashes" in my face (which is of course black) and say, "What are you going do about it, huh"? If you don't like it,quit!! So most of us whose only clout is in the dictionary just keep rolling with the punches. All of this bitterness and hatred is bottled up inside until one day....It explodes into the incident which occurred in the 015th district. No one should be called out of their name especially by someone who does not share your racial background. That's like me calling one of your family members a cracker or hunky. There is no way I'd say that to them but I may think it. Once again, there's the "white boy" thinking he can say or do anything he wants and keeps getting away with it. Something should be done to him for letting that word flow out of his mouth so comfortably and it should cost him big time. Hope my comment makes the post!! Certain memories on this job just make me want to scream!!!! I now love my job and "all" the people I work with. It's about time the blog author started approving the comments being posted because some of them were way too full of racial tones. Thanks from a grateful black officer who hopes a change is going to come!!
Unfortunately you are a moron, because apparently you were not there nor do you know what you are talking about. The "witness" as you refer to it was walking through a "crime scene" w/ shoes on her feet. In case you forgot that general order "crime scenes" are to be protected. Furthermore, jack ass...it was not the same individual that later stated she had a graze wound. It was an individual that was inciting the already large crowd. Learn your facts before you open your fat mouth. Then, maybe, you won't sound like such a jack ass!!!!
Unfortunately it was a difference of opinion about whtether a "witness" should be allowed to go in her house and get a pair of shoes. One officer said no and the other said it was okay. (she was ultimately the one who ended up with a scratch, from a nail, on her ankle and said it was a graze wound) The supervisors on the scene should have quelled that one right away and taken both officers to the wood shed (in private)for their conduct and lack of professionalism.
8/09/2006 11:16:38 AM
Once again, another moron opening his mouth without any 1st hand knowledge of the incident. For if the moron had 1st hand knowledge of the incident, then he would know that the "HERO" black officer from 015 stood on the sidewalk as the 3 S.O.S. officers fought with the 3 aggravated battery offenders and watched. Oh yea, I guess you forgot to mention that. Instead of assisting his fellow officers, he stood there and watched.....LIKE A COWARD!!!! That is what I observed. Oh yea, I guess he was just trying to keep community relations up....nice try moron...LEARN the facts before you open your mouth....
Man, some of you guys should stay under your rocks. As SCC said, the scene was "already volatile". There are two separate issues here:
1. An SOS PO throwing fuel on a fire and pissing on some of his coworkers while he was at it;
2. A 015 PO throwing water on the fuel, the fire and the SOS PO.
Amazing how many of you guys seem to jump right on the 015 PO for daring to squirt the SOS guy with water, while completely ignoring the fact that the SOS guy could very well have started a freakin riot with his mouth (which could have gotten dozens of POs killed or injured).
You can take the race of the guy from 015 completely out of this story and he still made an impossible call in an impossible situation. Amazing how many are willing to jump on the 015 guy because the SOS guy got a little wet in the process. Amazing.
8/09/2006 04:52:28 PM
to 11:39:12
There have been plenty of honest mistakes by PO's and Cline has had their backs, the mass transit officer who killed the thug at 95th St, the sgt with Meeks and there are others that are not played out in the media. Trust me if Brezcyk (sp),Hillard or some others were here both those officers and others would be tossed to the wolves.
I remember not so long ago when my partner and I called a 10-1 while we struggled with a (POS). I was sure glad to see help show up. The only thing that mattered was seeing blue. Not white or black but BLUE. And that’s all that should matter. I’m sickened to hear anything else to the contrary.
For any PO to totally disregard a 10- 1 or take their time for whatever lame reason should not only be ashamed of themselves but has no business being a PO to begin with.
This is not a game boys and girls.
This is real shit.
Someone can and will get hurt or worse. I don’t even want to think about that one.
The consequences…well you can imagine.
You may not like someone because of their race, color, religion, ethnic background, or hell maybe just because the person is a jerk. Whatever the reason, for those 8 hours, EVERYONE is BLUE. Leave your differences at home where they belong. Got a problem with someone, take it up with them before or after work.
Remember, anything can happen at anytime.
We MUST be able to count on each other and trust one another.
If not than we have lost and they have won.
We as police officers are professionals and are expected to act as such.
I have worked with white, black, and Hispanic officers. All were hardworking and good people to work with as I know most officers are in this department.
Stay Safe my brothers and sisters in blue and go home afterwards.
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Once again, another moron opening his mouth without any 1st hand knowledge of the incident. For if the moron had 1st hand knowledge of the incident, then he would know that the "HERO" black officer from 015 stood on the sidewalk as the 3 S.O.S. officers fought with the 3 aggravated battery offenders and watched. Oh yea, I guess you forgot to mention that. Instead of assisting his fellow officers, he stood there and watched.....LIKE A COWARD!!!! That is what I observed. Oh yea, I guess he was just trying to keep community relations up....nice try moron...LEARN the facts before you open your mouth....
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Wow, did you observe this in between all the punches you were taking? Amazing that you, Mr. heroic anonymous internet victim suffered like this and nobody has mentioned any of it. Not in a police report or media report. Not your bosses, coworkers, the citizens or the media.
Amazing. You deserve a freaking medal for being such a hero. Plus the right to try and start race riots under any circumstances. And the right to criticize any coworker who refused to put on your white hood. Because we are all blue, right, unless they are black. In which case they are, oh I don't know, what were all those things you called black people that night?
Uppity guy there in 015, huh? He should just learn to shuffle, nod and mumble "yessuh" when you decide you want to hold a little race rally in the middle of 015. Yessireebob, I'm with ya!
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12:29pm
Yeah he has helped coppers I am sure. But let us not forget that the Supt knows all about the racial tension between po's in 011 and 015. Cline knows about po's protecting Heavy D's spots on the west side. He was also the Commander of Narcotics not too many years ago when one of his teams doing a surveillance in
015 filmed a black officer from 011 in uniform, on duty in an 011 district squad car protecting a dope spot in 015. As a matter of fact the 011 copper was filmed at least three times by the surveillance team. Be realistic Supt's no matter who they are cover shit up. The amazing thing is that when this kind of shit gets found out and can no longer be covered up like the "broken star" investigation in 015 you never see a bosses head roll.
For those of you not on scene I can tell you there were plenty of black officers and black citizens making comments towards the white officers about their race, but as usaul the double standard applies and that is o.k.
To 07:47:40, white officers getting away with being racist? Every time a white officer arrests a black person, gives a black person a ticket, tells a black person to get off the corner, etc., etc., it is because we are white and they are black.
I think white people are a little tired of black people crying racist for every little thing.
Many times, black people use their race as an excuse for everything. Can't get a job because I'm black. Got locked up because I'm black. I stand on the street corner because I'm black and the white man is holding me down.
Jesus Christ, how long can a group of people complain about the same damn thing. Every group in history has had their fair share of problems, but the black race is the only group that wants to use that excuse for every little thing and I think every other group has had enough of their bullshit excuses.
Wasn't there but I was taught many years ago, by one of the best of FTO's in the city, that WE do not correct each other in front of the citizens. If 015 po did not like what SOS po said, he should have let him know about it afterward. I worked with a terrific black cop, who would tell the bad guy who had called him brother, " No, I am not your brother, my brother would not be out here doing the shit you do".
12:03 and others, what I don't get is why you would think its worse for 015 PO to "correct" the SOS PO than it is for the SOS PO to (allegedly) rant and rave and toss racial invectives around (which are directed at the group that includes the 015 PO).
In other words, its okay for my brother in uniform to rant up and down the street about how my people and me are a bunch of *$*&*&$, but I'm impolite or showing lack of unity when I tell him to knock it off?
Boys, that is some seriously f'ed up logic.
Don't get me wrong. ANYBODY who stood out there screaming racial invective in uniform should suffer penalties here. All of it is simply not excusable, whether it came from one side or the other or both. Riots have started in the ghetto based on far less.
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