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Under fire for the way police shootings are investigated, the Daley administration wants the right to test Chicago Police officers who discharge their weapons -- on duty or off -- for alcohol and drugs.
In the wake of barroom brawls involving off-duty officers, City Hall is also proposing random testing for alcohol as well as drugs; stepped-up drug testing that uses hair samples instead of just urine; testing for Ecstasy and steroids, and drug and alcohol testing of officers in specialized units.
In addition, the city wants to retain disciplinary records related to sustained complaints for the "duration of an officer's employment" and require officers under investigation to make "electronically recorded statements" to the Internal Affairs Division and the Independent Police Review Authority.
- I HAVE TO PASS A URINE TEST FOR MY JOB... AND I HAVE TO AGREE 100%
Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test With which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I
have to pass one to earn it for them?
Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their ASS, doing drugs, while I work. . . .
Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check ?
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Off Subject: So tired of hearing all the cities BS abt. not having enough money for pay increases on the next contract negotiations. As you noted SCC. Little Richie opened up the door to use outside dept. with his statement of the salaried of other Chiefs or Supt. of other dept. Well here's a Money Making Idea for a new ordinance. and you guys tell me would this not make a lot of sense?
How many people here are sick of Either A. Coming home at night and finding no parking avail. because of all those lawn chairs and milk crates taking up parking spots during the winter months? Or even more importantly How many times have we had to pursuit someone or have to respond to a 10-1 and suddenly are riding down a side street and we have to slowdown because the streets are icy.
Well here's my proposal. The same way we have street cleaning in the summer. Why not have a snow plow cleaning after snow storms? all I know I'd be willing to move my car from one side of the street from 9-4:30 to have not only the streets clean. but on top of that more money for raises when some idiot gets ticketed for not moving the car on a street "plowing" day.
What do you guys think?
hear, hear.
I don't drink, so I don't care if you test me anytime. Testing welfare receivers sounds good to me. I've seen divorces require drug and alcohol tests in child visitation rights cases, so why not?
I say we test the politicians and all judges. These political hacks need to be monitored as well as us.
IT's OFFICIAL~! CHA Special Employment will cease and desist Dec 31, 2007. Wah wah wah wah...
unreal.... I post this info days ago, put a little spin to it (which apparently hit a little too close to your bathroom vanity) you censor it, then make it a thread and claim it as your own doing! Now I see where you get your information, from censored bloggers. How do you sleep at night?
i bet the reverends would be against it .its uhhhhhh racial...
taxes pay my salary...my salary buys things which pays other peoples salaries its called the economy, i've never done a drug in my life and i'm not a drinker so whizz quiz for me whizz quiz for you whizz quiz for everyone! Not only would i want the person next to me sober but the guy at the register with access to my personal finance info to be sober.
so now with all this testing, can the state do the same for the $hit heads of society, they piss hot they get not welfare.
To SCC:
My full name has appeared on your blog a couple of times now and i promise if it appears one more time i will file a lawsuit against you. If for nothing else, to front you out and let everyone know who you are. Believe it or not, i actually enjoy YOUR thoughts and blog, but it's the irresponsible monitoring of the comments that turns this thing into a bathroom stall. You allow people to post full names and degrade them at will with all to often false allegations and it's not right. This thing is ruining good peoples reputations and in some cases careers. I ask of you take a minute and think how you would feel if your full name and unit of assignment was posted on here and followed by numerous negative comments about you. There will allways be someone that doesn't really like you or disagrees with you and would love to throw a free cheap shot anonymously at you. You honestly may not realize it, but you have a lot of power running this blog and what's on here one night is the talk in many roll calls the next day. If you have to go to registered comments, so be it. But i'm just sick of you letting people bash people freely on here and think you have no responsibility for it.
I'm being 100% serious. If my name appears on here one more time i will find a way to file a suit and one way or another you will be outed. I'm sorry, but i can no longer stand back and let you ruin good officers, with good friends, and families lives on her. You and only you have the power to decide what goes up on here and what's deleted. Please start doing the right thing.
I ask of you not to publish this comment, but just take it into consideration. I didn't intend this post for anyone else to see but you.
I am sick of people going on the medical. Its a big joke. a.g. 019 dist.
unreal.... I post this info days ago, put a little spin to it (which apparently hit a little too close to your bathroom vanity) you censor it, then make it a thread and claim it as your own doing! Now I see where you get your information, from censored bloggers. How do you sleep at night?
In the post, we credit a commentator from the comments section. An anonymous commentator. You want to take credit, step up. We're reader driven. Lots of people contribute.
And we sleep on a big water bed, but what does that matter?
The City can propose all the changes that they desire but they cannot take effect unless the Lodge surrenders.
The Lodge has the upperhand because of past arbitration rulings that the City cannot arbitrarily change the discipline process. The Lodge controls how the process works and as long as they stand tall it will not change.
Bill Nolan and Tom Pleines won an expedited arbitration case in 1997 that dictates that the Lodge is in-charge and they should be commended.
Let us hope that Donahue does not bend and break in-exchange for a political job when he is voted out of office next year.
been saying this for the last 20 years.
Well here's my proposal. The same way we have street cleaning in the summer. Why not have a snow plow cleaning after snow storms? all I know I'd be willing to move my car from one side of the street from 9-4:30 to have not only the streets clean. but on top of that more money for raises when some idiot gets ticketed for not moving the car on a street "plowing" day.
What do you guys think?
12/08/2007 11:39:00 PM
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I think that you should move to a
nice condo downtown. Snow does not
exist around condos. Go down the
elevator to your heated garage, get into a warm car and then proceed onto streets where snow has magically disappeared during the middle of the night. There is no winter hassle, no heart attacks dealing with the snow, no cold tushy when you get in to your car
in the morning. You deserve it! Take care of yourself.
Listen, these attacks are getting stupid.
Citizens do you want the police or not?
Here is more of a reason no to help people. The finger is pointed at you if you shoot someone in a justifiable situation.
Why don't I have an inspector or media or rev ride with me all day? To afraid, or wait, most people hate the police, and people who were never the police judge what they do.
People stop calling 911, don't exepect a robber to stopped because the city would rather pay criminals settlements or have you killed then the police to take action in this city.
They just started this b/s breathalyzer test over here in the big crapple for any shootings also and talk about the steroid testing now also.
MERRY CHRISTMAS to my brothers and sisters in blue in Chitown from NY
STAY SAFE OUT THERE
da Mayor is the one who suggested this and gave you guys up to the "whomever" to save his pathetic skin from the feds.
And the welfare reference is blatant racism because a lot of you still do not know that whites are the greatest recipients of welfare and not blacks...to bad s-o-o-o-o sad even though it is a good idea.
Let them test for steroids. I'll just hire Sean Ryan's attorney and get my job back anyway.
Bring it.Im not afraid.Test away. Then again make the Bosses pass a weight test to get promoted!LoL.Right Cline is gone.
So if that is true then if your a Boss and you screw around with somebody other than your wife then you should get fired.Nobody is hoilding the exempts feet to the fire. Maybe thats why they are called Exempt?
Personally, I commend the proposal for making any copper involved in a shooting submit to drug/alcohol testing. This will accomplish two things:
1) Will show a divide between officer involved and offender. We all know that most people shot by police will have all kinds of substances show up in their systems. The new IPRB should make those findings of the offenders PUBLIC. This will also shut up the families of these offenders, who are always claiming that their child "didn't mess with drugs."
2) It will also encourage those among us who are addicted to alcohol and other substances to go and SEEK OUT TREATMENT. We all know most of us won't go until our backs are against the wall. Should this ordinance pass, those who are addicted will have no choice. Sober cops make better street cops, and God knows when anyof us call for help, we want somebody to show up who is going to actually be able to help.
3) More sober cops means less off duty "incidents." Anything that reduces them, I wholeheartedly support.
Off Topic: Why was there a cpd marked unit driving around the parking lot of the Hanna Montana Concert?
The new Sup with be ok as long as he masters CHICAGO GENERAL ORDER NUMBER ONE: Never, ever say or do anything that reflects poorly on our lil dictator Richard II.
most of the p.o.'s in 019 are a joke to begin with. You should be used to it
What do you guys think?
12/08/2007 11:39:00 PM
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About about they just LIFT THE RESIDENCY RULE!!!!!!
Well here's my proposal. The same way we have street cleaning in the summer. Why not have a snow plow cleaning after snow storms? all I know I'd be willing to move my car from one side of the street from 9-4:30 to have not only the streets clean. but on top of that more money for raises when some idiot gets ticketed for not moving the car on a street "plowing" day.
What do you guys think?
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they do that where my mom used to live. worked well and got the streets clean
I think everyone that attends or CONDUCTS a police board hearing should be drug/alcohol tested each time there is a meeting....and everyone should be tested before a city council meeting as well, you know, just to make extra sure that the people making important decisions aren't drunk or stoned.... I hope the new super politely tells these race-baiting do-nothing former criminal- current political dopes to go fornicate themselves....
This is just a proposal. Remember our 24% raise, $3000 residency stipend among other things. We deserve many of them, I agree, but in negotiations each side has some throw aways. If they want to do everything they can to screw us (New forms of Dicsiple that NEVER go away) they need to set up hard and fast guidelines on what happens. I know people suspended for long periods of time for nonsense and people get 30 days for DUI or 15 for hitting the old lady. All of your awards mean NOTHING. They say they do, but they don't. One DC should subtract 5-10 days off a suspension or something like that....
How do you sleep at night?
12/09/2007 01:25:00 AM
I sleep on top of a pile of money with many beautiful ladies.
Fuck it, why not all city workers be tested? Let's start with the politicians. They have what I consider an important job. We wouldn't want them to be doped up or drunk on duty either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looked at todays slumtimes and what is in sneed? HMM! Guess the feds wanted a federal takeover of cpd no wonder our mayor idiot hired a fed! Then old asshole eddie burke with carutors wants us all tested if involved in a shooting! I don't drink anyway so what! ed burke friend of police? LOL! mark maybe we could let him use our hall for more book promotion parties! if he is so loyal why did he dump his guy to 008? for no reason? and why does he have 6 D-3 paid plus unlimited overtime drivers? Plus they work 14 days a month how can this be? ed?
Can someone please answer this, what would then happen if we justifiably and legally killed someone off duty after we've had a few cocktails??
I couldn't agree more. We would save a ton of money if we required urine samples for the less fortunate. We could also make a ton of money selling them clean samples.
I'm not going to be foolish and make a blanket statement that a majority of people on Link are drug users. That's ludicrous! But I can safely say about 80% are practicing drug users. That's why they are on Link. They can't hold a job for any extended period of time because of their drug addiction. That and they can get their money for nothing.
So, test them,, make them accountable for something and sell them your good wizz. A win-win situation for all!
They can have all those things they want. We want residency in retiurn plain and simple! They can even not give us a raise this time for the first year of the 3 year contract. Fuck it I want out of this nest of shit. Keep your frigging Mt.greenwoods and Garfield ridges, Beverlys , northwestside 's all overpriced garbage, with no schools.
I'll piss everythime I take an event number! Give me residency or death!
drug and alcohol tests for folks, in order to collect welfare, link cards, section 8 payments....I like it!
Test Judges, States Attorneys, Alderman, Fireman, and anyone else with a "city" job. It is discriminatory to single out police officers. How about testing firefighters after they put out a fire? How about testing Judges after they make a finding on a serious case? How about testing States Attorneys after they lose a big case. How about testing Alderman after every city hall meeting that affects us the taxpayers. How about testing Streets and Sanitation workers who are driving around the city everyday? This is something that has to be fair and equal throughout the city...... We will see how they will single out and discriminate against police officers. Besides police know who likes to drink and drive, and who's family members like the nose candy., or have a crack habit. They are in contact with them every day on the streets.
Under fire for the way police shootings are investigated, the Daley administration wants the right to test Chicago Police officers who discharge their weapons -- on duty or off -- for alcohol and drugs.
This could be a big problem for the non clout officers.
With all these threats of change and punitive, administrative and possibly criminal action, we will all be disciplined or fired. What other job had such a high mortality rate in history? Gladiator, Christians fighting lions on Rome or a U.S. / British fighter/bomber pilot over Germany during WWII?
TO 12/08/07 1130PM I AGREED WITH YOU 100 PERCENT. BUT THIS IS CHICAGO AND IT RUN MY MENTALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE. I WAS IN NORTH RIVERIDE YESTERDAY, COULD NOT BELIEVE THE GREAT JOB THEY DID CLEARING THEIR STREETS.
I hate to say it, but I wonder if I made the right career choice. As a lifelong Chicagoan, I thought this job would be it. Yeah, yeah I was a college kid. I have my bachelor's degree and joined the dept. when I was 23. I've been on a little longer than 3yrs so I'm still in my twenties. I feel this way for several reasons. The alderman and the mayor have raised taxes more than necessary and the taxpayer will feel it. Secondly, the dept. is in horrible shape. Next, I don't care what they say...I don't want the Olympics. The marathon was a disaster. The city can say we weren't prepared, but terrorists don't often give you advanced warning. The "unprepared" excuse won't work for that. Moreover, a casino will work out great. More drugs, more prostitution, and overall higher crime. Casinos turn places into crime havens. I hate to say it but this lifelong Chicagoan may soon pack it up and head out to the 'burbs. SORRY!!!
SO TO KEEP MY JOB I HAVE TO DO THE FOLLOWING:
DRUG TEST WHENEVER A BOSS WANTS TO SCREW WITH ME.
KEEP MY HAIR IN A FASHIONABLE 1950'S HAIRSTYLE.
NO FACIAL HAIR BECAUSE IT MAKES PEOPLE HAVE RESPECT FOR US!
HAVE A CITY STICKER FOR ALL THE VEHICLE IN MY HOUSEHOLD.
LIVE IN THE CITY.
REPORT MY WIVES OR HUSBANDS BUSINESS AFFAIRS WITH THE CITY EVEN THOU THEY ARE NOT AN EMPLOYEE.
CANT GET DRUNK EVEN IF IM WALKING TO THE LOCAL GIN MILL.
WAIVE MY RIGHTS BECAUSE A BOSS CANT
QUESTION US FOR CRIMES SO WE END UP BEING FIRED EITHER WAY.
HAVE SEX WITH VICTIMS OR CRACK WHORES BECAUSE THEY WILL SUCKER THE CITY INTO A MILLION DOLLAR SETTLEMENT.
HIRE A RELATIVE AND THEN PUT THEM IN CUSHY SPOTS. THEN STEAL TEST AND GIVE SPECIAL SEMINARS TO TEACH MY FRIEND HOW TO CHEAT ON PROMOTIONAL EXAMS.
OH WAIT THAT LAST ONE SOME PEOPLE CAN DO!!!
Mr. MAYOR : This should not be limited to Just Police officers. Make it across the board ALL CITY WORKERS, including ALDERMAN. Just because we carry a gun dont pick on us. Make random testing for ALL City employees Mandatory.
alderpunks should have to blow for every city council or committee meeting as well. I've seen a couple of them stagger in al lit up.
IF CHICAGO CITY ALDERMEN WANT TO CARRY A WEAPON THEN THEY SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO WEAPONS TRAINING, DRUG SCREEN, ALCOHOL TEST AND YEARLY QUALIFICATIONS JUST LIKE POLICE OFFICERS. WHETHER DRUNK OR SOBER, SOONER OR LATER ONE OF THOSE "EGOTISTIC" ALDERMEN WILL SHOOT SOMEONE, THEN IT'S TO LATE. WHO WILL PAY THEN? THE CITY.
test everyone for everything......but i would like to see those calling for this measure to step up and LEAD the way by taking all the tests first.
snow guy,
that would reqire 2-3 passes per sidestreet and probably double the cost of snow removal. and don't you think the city fines the people enough.
Test one test all:
Every City of Chicago Employee should be tested and that goes from the Mayor down.
Police, Fire, Teachers, all departments, no exceptions
Otherwise there is a presentation of discrimination by income and occupation. The wealthy being more exempt than say the maintenence crews city wide for example.
No exceptions, that means by rank or position in city government. By the way, they are city records and therefore publishable.
Test me anytime you want as long as it's across the board.
Personally, I don't care how they drug test me...urine, hair sample, whatever. I'm clean and sober and don't want to work with anyone who isn't.
Hey can the City drug test Aldermen as well..the only thing I want to know is what company will do the drug testing and what is Daley's involvement with the company? i don't drink so IAD can kiss my ass!
Al Dullton today said, that the city of Chicago better address the police brutality problem or, his orgin-I-zation will contact the international Olympic committee asking them to remove chitown from the running.
Source. WBBM AM radio.
This is great, can't wait to the knee jerk reaction to this.
Sharpton tells Chicago: Fight police brutality or he will threaten city's Olympics bid
You want to drug test someone let me tell you who to test; who ever hacks the mayors hair. Does he or she have a card in the electricians union??? Looks like he got electro shock treatment......Uh Oh. Never mind
And we sleep on a big water bed, but what does that matter?
12/09/2007 06:08:00 AM
Yeah....a really, really big water bed!!
It looks like Crimefile has gotten in touch with his... feminine side:
http://www.zeldamccorville.com/
But that would be racist
OFF TOPIC......
WHAT HAPPENED IN 010 WITH THE PO WHO WAS ORDERED TO TURN OVER HIS PHONE BY IAD.
HEY ZAVALLA HOW ABOUT LETTING YOUR OFFICERS HAVE CONTACT WITH AN FOP LAWYER.
NICE TECH IAD BORROWED TO SEARCH WITHOUT A WARRANT THE OFFICERS CELL PHONE. IAD REMOVED ALL THE TEXT PICTURES AND CONTACT INFO ON SCENE. THEY MIGHT WANT TO HELP WITH HOMICIDES SOMEDAY THOSE LAZY GEEK PRICKS.
CUELLO DISTRICT SEEMS UP FOR GRABS
NICE GOING ON CANCELING A WATCH PARTY BECAUSE NO ONE SHOWED UP TO THE OVERPRICED OFFICIAL XMAS PART.
HATE TO TELL HER BUT STARK AND WILLIAMS ARE PLANNING ON PUTTING A MAN OF COLOR IN 010 WAIT AND SEE AFTER THE NEW LT COME OUT. REMEMBER THEY ARE HELPING JOODYEY PUT TOGETHER A TEAM.
Waterbed?? The 70's called and it wants its bedroom furniture back.
"Reverend Al" has issued Daley a public ultimatum. Sharpton threatens to sabotage Daley's Olympics 2016 legacy with the IOC.
Well here's my proposal. The same way we have street cleaning in the summer. Why not have a snow plow cleaning after snow storms? all I know I'd be willing to move my car from one side of the street from 9-4:30 to have not only the streets clean. but on top of that more money for raises when some idiot gets ticketed for not moving the car on a street "plowing" day.
What do you guys think?
12/08/2007 11:39:00 PM
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I think your the idiot!
You apparently haven't lived in this city long enough or are not old enough to remember when this was tried during a large snowfall several years ago.
DIDN'T WORK THEN = WON'T WORK NOW!
Anyone see the Tom Brokow documentary on 1968? They had a nice segment on the Democratic National Convention Riot in Chicago. Makes me wish I was born 30 years earlier.
So if Daley does not fix the "rampant corruption" in CPD, Sharpton's fatass is going to make sure the IOC does not choose Chicago for the Olympics.
Go back to Brooklyn, you bottom feeder.
It was just a matter of time.
All the other big PD's do it this way.
Looks like you better stop bringing your pistoles to the tavers. Perhaps knives though.
It says nothing if you stab someone in self-defense!
SCOOP!
Unless I misunderstood what I was hearing on the 9pm news on FOX, it was reported that...Rev. Al Sharp-tin said if the Poe-leeece aren't dealt with in Chi Town he will fight against the Olympic bid for Chicago. What an asshole! He was coming here to Chicago for what?........
piss test the offenders in police-related shootings, if they come back clear from alcohol, narcotics, in their systems, then piss test the hostile to the police witnesses, then all the street deputies present at the round table,, some who have been known to spend their shifts at Western Avenue taverns.
piss test the Asst.States Attorneys, who are known to stop for a few every now and then, enrout to Area assignments and their offices.
Piss test the Mayor, who looks like he's O'D'd on Prozac.
Daley might want to check his own wife she has a history of falling down around 2AM, breaking her wrist and ankle numerous times, Fire had to respond twice. Yet I don't blame her if I was married to the stuttering moron (I would take to the bottle )
Our lawmakers should create a law which limits the amount of money these mutts can sue for. I can only conclude that these lawmakers are also lawyers and do not want to change the laws which allow them and their law firms the ability to rape the taxpayers. The Dramshop law has a $55,000 cap on liability for a lawsuit. I'm sure Jon Loevy and his fellow lawyers will be having a very, very, very happy Hannaukah this year with all of the money they has bilked out of the taxpayers of this city for themselves and their criminal "victims" he represents. They blame the police officers for the outrageous payouts the city gives to these assholes.
Off topic: have you seen this: http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/06/policing-the-halls/?ref=opinion
Liberal Chicago public school teacher defending the Chicago Police in the NYT. Ya don't see that every day...
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Off Topic: Why was there a cpd marked unit driving around the parking lot of the Hanna Montana Concert?
12/09/2007 10:16:00 AM
Because Studio 63 is closed on Sunday?.......
Tawana Brawley said?....
I woke the neighbors I laughed so hard.
Too bad I wasn't waking Master Pastor Al.
OFF TOPIC--SORRY but needs to be said:
Zone 4- extremely busy its 1 & 18!
Bad enough 1 of the dispatchers mumbles. A few OEMC dispatchers are already speech challenged at times.
What happened to a simple code? Is the need to explain everything really needed? 19-P thats it. Now we get 19-B squad, I dont see them, and nobody is approaching me why dont you call them back cause I dont see the illegal parker.
Should have been a 19-B via the PDT- no need to get on the radio.
Thats just an example.
p.s. Who ever worked134 today- SHUT UP!!! you need to switch over to the city-wide or get your own radio zone...GEEZ we dont need to here about every single observation, move, relocation. Whats next? Play by Play of a bathroom break?
1820 that goes for you too!!!
5 minute disertations about an every single thing isnt necessary.
Keep radio traffic to a minimum!! Listen- Depress Key- Say what needs to be said- let go of key!!
They can have all those things they want. We want residency in retiurn plain and simple! They can even not give us a raise this time for the first year of the 3 year contract. Fuck it I want out of this nest of shit. Keep your frigging Mt.greenwoods and Garfield ridges, Beverlys , northwestside 's all overpriced garbage, with no schools.
I'll piss everythime I take an event number! Give me residency or death!
12/09/2007 12:03:00 PM
It's real easy then...........quit the fucking job you hack! You should have noooo problems getting on anywhere else cause you only have have about, lets see, 3 to 5 yrs on the job? So you should have no problems jumping right in. Quit your cryin about residency, it is'nt gonna happen. Focus on pay, insurance, pension and getting rid of the clout and connected bullshit. Make it fair for everyone.
Be safe everyone!
P.s Go back to bed Sharpton!!! You too need to get your ass kicked back to NY! Police Brutality huh......how about lets get rid of phoney fake ass race baiting Rev's. You arent needed here you slob.
And the welfare reference is blatant racism because a lot of you still do not know that whites are the greatest recipients of welfare and not blacks...to bad s-o-o-o-o sad even though it is a good idea.
12/09/2007 08:59:00 AM
not about numbers, it's about the percentages. Just like eventhough blacks only make up 12% of the total population the make up over 60% of the prison population. im sure if you look hard enough Reverend you'd see similar percentages for welfare.
This is great, can't wait to the knee jerk reaction to this.
Sharpton tells Chicago: Fight police brutality or he will threaten city's Olympics bid
12/09/2007 07:05:00 PM
the IOC never has given a shit about a host city's civil rights record, so let Al waste his fucking time. Point(s) being: China, Russia, and Nazi fucking Germany! We may or may not get the Olympics but either way, it will have nothing to do with us. Just another ploy by reverend retard to get the spot light. If Richie really gave a rats ass what the Make Believe reverends think would he have given whitey the same job a brother held for twice the pay? Please.
Keep radio traffic to a minimum!! Listen- Depress Key- Say what needs to be said- let go of key!!
12/09/2007 11:48:00 PM
Amen!! Fuck the "callbacks." Who gives a fuck if they are there or not, less people for me to deal with. And don't get me started on 1120 or 1130. Geez, do you guys really like the sound of your voice that much?
And the welfare reference is blatant racism because a lot of you still do not know that whites are the greatest recipients of welfare and not blacks...to bad s-o-o-o-o sad even though it is a good idea.
nationwide or just in ill.? Last I checked it was someting 85% of welfare respondents were "african american" in illinois
http://www.northwestern.edu/ipr/publications/papers/IFSyear4.pdf
Off Subject: So tired of hearing all the cities BS abt. not having enough money for pay increases on the next contract negotiations. As you noted SCC. Little Richie opened up the door to use outside dept. with his statement of the salaried of other Chiefs or Supt. of other dept. Well here's a Money Making Idea for a new ordinance. and you guys tell me would this not make a lot of sense?
How many people here are sick of Either A. Coming home at night and finding no parking avail. because of all those lawn chairs and milk crates taking up parking spots during the winter months? Or even more importantly How many times have we had to pursuit someone or have to respond to a 10-1 and suddenly are riding down a side street and we have to slowdown because the streets are icy.
Well here's my proposal. The same way we have street cleaning in the summer. Why not have a snow plow cleaning after snow storms? all I know I'd be willing to move my car from one side of the street from 9-4:30 to have not only the streets clean. but on top of that more money for raises when some idiot gets ticketed for not moving the car on a street "plowing" day.
What do you guys think?
since the blizzard of 79 that got bilandic ridden out on a stick. the streets have been plowed immediately. i don't know what you're talking about.
Keep radio traffic to a minimum!! Listen- Depress Key- Say what needs to be said- let go of key!!
12/09/2007 11:48:00 PM
...............................................................................u live in your own little worrld beatoff zone foe is 7th out of the 13 zones as far a busy. and you cant code a job via pdt only per G.O.
let me elaborate.. actual radio transmission of a couple young guys actually working and their LOSER sergeant who has wet dreams of not having a life whatsoever (ie, fucking idiot)...
fucking idiot: "three oh"
dispatch: "1130?"
fucking idiot: "three oh...status of 32?"
dispatch: 1132 for the mobil...
1132: "32, clear from our stop on flournoy, have 3 on the hood at Springfield and Van Buren, whats up?"
dispatch: "30, they have 3 on the hood at Springfield and Van Buren"
fucking idiot: "negative, as far as I see they are at flournoy and kildare... I am here and do not see them"
1132: 'sarge, we are a couple blocks away with 3, 1 may be wanted in a homicide, want us to stay put for a meet?"
fucking idiot: "Negative you are suppose to be at flournoy and kildare get to where you are suppose to be...
fucking idiot: "three oh."
dispatch: 1130?
fuckin idiot: "three oh, hold me here with 32 getting to the bottom of this, then hold me in 011 on a SPAR"
1132: "squad, 19-paul on the possible homicide offenders, hold us meeting the sergeant at flournoy and kildare."
and thats just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to this moron. nothing ever came of the 'spar" as Im sure this stroke three oh just made these guys kiss his ass for a while, as he gets off on this shit. I worked for this tricky bitch for a while. Worked in the district for some time. I could make an entire blog on the futility of this girls career. If you want more, let it be known and Ill continue. But the fact is this clown is a joke. Probably doesnt even deserve this attention. Thank god tricky will NEVER get promoted. He's just not smart enough and even the department recognizes this formally. He is trouble and will jam up Jesus Christ himself if given te opportunity! so if you are in 011, LOOK OUT FOR TRICKY!
Let us hope that Donahue does not bend and break in-exchange for a political job when he is voted out of office next year.
Because markie boy has never caved in before right? shit by the time markie boy finds out about this it will already be changed.
Focus on pay, insurance, pension and getting rid of the clout and connected bullshit. Make it fair for everyone.
Be safe everyone!
Do you even think about what your typing. You tell him to quit for the very same things you are asking for. You should quit.
12/09/2007 11:48:00 PM
you should come to 003 on midnights and listen to that sorry excuse for a sgt 330 sgt cherry on the radio. IT IS NON FUCKING STOP.
We demand drug and alcohol test on all "witnesses" and "victims" on scene. All drug and alcohol related crimes should have a $ penalty on the offenders and victims. Officers responding to such crimes should be able to sue the victim and/or offender ( Link Cards?) for risking the officers life to come to their aide. If the victim or offender does have drugs or alcohol in his or her system, they should not be allowed to sue the city or its officers,pay a penalty and the city back for sevices rendered. Mr Sharpton and all reverends should be investigated. Who are their financial backers? Who contributes to them, victims and their law suits? Criminal history and the criminals they associate with. If we are to held to this standard then they should be as well. Let's set up a review board of Reverends. I nominate Seiser to head this. Do I have a second?
TO 9:34PM
Yes,I did watch it too.
Im in my early 50s,and I have a guy
near me(we live in the sticks)whoes 64yo;and he fought at the convention.
Being on the PD at that time was just like being in Military combat unit.
What those idiot protesters didnt realize was that the CPD had just fought in the King riots,it was a combat-hardened PD.
Did u hear what Brokow said about his father who was a diehard liberal: His father was disgusted that the protesters "provoked" the Police like that. Too bad his father isnt writing the history books.
"Police Riot" my ass! F*ku whore liberals.......
Yes I am the one worker here! And yes the medical is a scam here. Most here hit the medical here for 3/4 months every year & half with some medical sham.
How bout the lunch thing? "Squad,I just sat down,can you give my turn in the barrel to some other poor sap?"
FOP NEED TO NEGOTIATE IN THE NEXT CONTRACT THAT IF AN OFFICER IS REQUIRED TO BLOW AND HE ISNT DRIVING THE PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE MINIMAL.
THINK ABOUT IT 3 BEERS IN AN HOUR AND YOU FIRE YOUR WEAPON FOR A DUTY RELATED NEED OFF DUTY. JACK POT OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT YOU ARE A DRUNK ASS.
WHAT ABOUT THOSE YOUNG OFFICER WHO DRINK ALL NIGHT AND ARE STILL "BUZZED" AT WORK AND THEY GET IN A SHOOTING.
I GUESS GOING ON THE MEDICAL FOR ALCOHOL POISONING IS A LEGITIMATE EXCUSE NOW....
I LOVE THOSE MOJITOS THE ARE AWESOME WITH A FINELY COOKED STEAK.
P.S.
BEWARE OF ALL THOSE XMAS PARTIES GUYS
Shortage in 008 said...
Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Why was there a cpd marked unit driving around the parking lot of the Hanna Montana Concert?
12/09/2007 10:16:00 AM
Maybe another "Drew Peterson" wanna be looking for his bride!
12/09/2007 01:27:00 PM
Advice leave now join the ISP, or a progressive suburban dept> This dept is so screwed up from daleys criminals all the way down to no brain clout exempts and clouted made up positions! We are falling fast and no safety net! Will the new supt implement new changes that are drastic? Or will the current stable of exempts still run the dept furthur into the ground?
Speaking of senseless radio chatter whats up with the idiots from 25 on 3rd watch, they always have to say something stupid or try to be funny speaking with an indian accent. Do they know that there's 2 or 3 coppers of indian descent on the zone? Grow up will you guys before they start tracking which radio is doing what!
me residency or death!
12/09/2007 12:03:00 PM
It's real easy then...........quit the fucking job you hack! You should have noooo problems getting on anywhere else cause you only have have about, lets see, 3 to 5 yrs on the job? So you should have no problems jumping right in. Quit your cryin about residency, it is'nt gonna happen. Focus on pay, insurance, pension and getting rid of the clout and connected bullshit. Make it fair for everyone.
Be safe everyone!
P.s Go back to bed Sharpton!!! You too need to get your ass kicked back to NY! Police Brutality huh......how about lets get rid of phoney fake ass race baiting Rev's. You arent needed here you slob.
12/09/2007 11:55:00 PM
------------------Hack? 3-5 years? I got 12 years hero. I want better for my family, I guess you are a homo and dont have such things??? Pension and health care? I think the city wants those gone, lick nuts old timer....just because you paid too much for youe second floor addition and now we all must pay.
Reverends have not been elected into office and were not voted on "By the People". We are not governed by any of you and you have no authority. So go ahead, why not run for office (some of our have...and shocker...you were not elected), give a financial discloser of what $ you have and from where. Let's open up your backgrounds and what you have done and with whom.
Rev Sharpton ( Mr. I AM THE LAW), by asking for a Citizen Review Panel, you are creating a biased jury and putting officers on trial. They will be guilty until proven innocent. The Police Department would like the same then. We, as citizens, will determine who is guilty without any Constitutional laws or background. You spit on the Constitution and are un-American. Rev Sharpton, you are a giant a** and are the biggest racist I have ever seen. You judge a person by the color of their skin and by the uniform they wear. You are an insult to activists who have worked hard to get rid of racism. Ooops ...maybe that is it! Maybe you need to keep racism alive for job(donation) security. Maybe instead of running your mouth and giving lip service to the communities you serve you should go out and serve and protect the citizens yourself. Stop the gangs and drug trafficing. After all you are an expert. You have done nothing for your flock except take greatful donations and run your mouth. You should be arrested for attempting to blackmail the City of Chicago into putting in a Superintendent of your choice and color of skin just for the sake of the color of skin. NO protection, NO police, Rev. Sharpton is on the beat. He will show us how it is done. Clean up the City by himself, just one.
1132: 'sarge, we are a couple blocks away with 3, 1 may be wanted in a homicide, want us to stay put for a meet?"
fucking idiot: "Negative you are suppose to be at flournoy and kildare get to where you are suppose to be...
fucking idiot: "three oh."
dispatch: 1130?
fuckin idiot: "three oh, hold me here with 32 getting to the bottom of this, then hold me in 011 on a SPAR"
1132: "squad, 19-paul on the possible homicide offenders, hold us meeting the sergeant at flournoy and kildare."
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or call an assist car to grab these 3 on the hood, or do they want all the glory?
You should come to 003 on midnights and listen to that sorry excuse for a sgt 330 sgt cherry on the radio. IT IS NON FUCKING STOP.
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Cherry and Sgt Dortch (aka: "MILK DUD - cause he looks like a giant Milk Dud!!) were in my Sergeants class in 2001.
BOTH of them CONSTANTLY kept raising their hands and asking stupid questions and made never ending comments.
Finally one day the lieutenant teaching a class asked, "Who the hell keeps sticking quarters into you guys?"
BOTH meritorious
s-s-tupid assholes.
If thats the same Dortch that was from 011? I laughed so hard I almost pissed my pants. "MILK DUD" now that funny!
How is he as a sgt? Has he become a kool-aid partaking true believer? He was something else(will not call him a dog as I mean no disrespect to the dogs on this job) in 011.
Slip, slide, duck, dodge was his Modus Operandi.
Milk dud LOL still funny!
12/10/2007 04:33:00 PM
Oh, I know who Dortch is. At least he finally falls asleep halfway through the watch and you don't have to deal with him.
How about tests for Soldier Boy ring tones and Sean Jean jackets but carrying a link card? Are those tests available? Just wondering.
dortch from 011 015 014 and now 002
dortch was tolerable. sgt cherry is the most intolerable person i have met in my life.
never was and still isn't the police. ask the old timers in 002.
or call an assist car to grab these 3 on the hood, or do they want all the glory?
12/10/2007 02:18:00 PM
you kidding? TRICKY and his ass tickler wouldnt allow backup!
"Don't you know there are two or three coppers of Indian descent on the zone?"
Toughen up Shirley.
Can't take a joke--too fucking bad.
Pass the curry chicken please.
Take It from a copper who's wife is a dispatcher everything said over the radio "IS" recorded,They already know which radio is which.the dispatcher can reach to the right side of console and with one finger can playback the last transmission.By the way as soon as the radio is keyed the radio number is displayed to the dispatcher,that's why you will hear a sgt ask for the radio number. Be aware that if you are making fun of someone's race on the radio it could come back on you. Remember ladies and gents keep it professional on the radio because "BIG" BROTHER'S watching and listening--be safe and watch out for each other because on one else will.
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Anonymous said...
Keep radio traffic to a minimum!! Listen- Depress Key- Say what needs to be said- let go of key!!
12/09/2007 11:48:00 PM
Amen!! Fuck the "callbacks." Who gives a fuck if they are there or not, less people for me to deal with. And don't get me started on 1120 or 1130. Geez, do you guys really like the sound of your voice that much?
12/10/2007 12:18:00 AM
AMEN !!! if you call the police, WAIT for the police to get there. if you leave, too bad, so sad. I can see a situation and there is shooting going on, take cover. but, if its an accident, parker, easy paperjob, W A I T ! if you are gone, no phone call, no service.
Piss-test all Aldermen.
Think about this we have 50 alderidiots, who voted years ago to allow them to carry guns, but then never qualify and drive drunk! Lets hope one day we catch them driving drunk, call the press right away with a "Tip", unless your the 1 with a fleet of drivers then your ok!
Even better would be to stop a drunken television or newspaper reporter. Call their competing station/paper and give them the tip and see if they run with that.
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