Once Again, Tiny Brains
From the comments:
- SCC,
Yes?
- Be careful who you hitch your wagon to. Herman is a certified creep.
Um...duh? Anyone who worked down south or with anyone who knew this guy heard the stories. His extracurricular activities were the subject of many stories that began with, "You ain't gonna believe this shit..."
- You are acting just like the fools who sent money to the Jena 6 because they were "one of their own," only to see the money turned into Grammy appearances and gold teeth. Herman is not one of us. He is a disgrace. He should have been fired for this. He should have been fired long ago for any one of a host of other creepy complaints.
Huh? We aren't asking anyone for money. We aren't asking for anyone to defend this guy. We aren't even claiming he's been wronged. We are using his case to point out the atrocious double standard that race baiters like Mope-rah expect everyone else to adhere to while tossing around casual racially charged brickbats of their own. And if you're wondering why he wasn't fired long ago, look to the political connections of the sergeant and 30 other people we could name who weren't fired for creepy, illegal or out and out stupid behavior.
- Mitchell is a racist and she is paid to publish her racist views, but her soap box is getting larger because there are some fools on this department who should be fired. In ten years, I have come across at least ten coppers that I wouldn't trust with a dog. The department had many opportunities to fire the fools that I know of, and all of them are still on the job. Now I am painted with the same brush as these fools.
Actually, her soap box is getting smaller and that's one reason she's screeching the way she does. The Sun Times has a shrinking readership and has been accused of inflating numbers so as to charge advertisers more. They lose money at an amazing clip. Their only hope is tabloid journalism and, bad news for them, that's an increasingly bad proposition, especially when so much of their bluster is exposed as hot air. As for the other criticism of people not fired, again, politics.
- The police haters and black racists are blowing this FACT all out of proportion and the public is listening to them. And now SCC is giving them more ammo.
"Due Process" has nothing to do with the fact that Herman should have been FIRED! You don't have a constitutional right to be a policeman and you don't have to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to get fired.
You stopped making sense for a moment there. Try again. And actually, "due process" has everything to do with being fired. You might not have a constitutional right to be a police officer, but you do have contractual protections in effect. The contract and Department policy delineate the process by which you may be stripped and fired. If that process isn't followed, "creepy" people have a chance to get their job back with past wages. Of course, all too often in this Department, due process and proper procedure is circumvented for political considerations.
Read what we wrote. The piece was a criticism of Mope-rah and the double standard, not in support of the sergeant. Even he deserves his day in court, though if procedures had been followed and politics had not come into play years ago, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Read what we wrote. The piece was a criticism of Mope-rah and the double standard, not in support of the sergeant. Even he deserves his day in court, though if procedures had been followed and politics had not come into play years ago, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
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Is he related to a Ron Herman, that used to be with a dept. out in the burbs? If so, that explains it all.
Mope-rah can only be accused of Facial Profiling! Then again she could scare a cat off a liver truck!
Mary Mitchell was able to hide behind the cover of "social commentator" for years, but this story about John Herman is so blatantly racist I can not believe she is an employee of a major newspaper. Herman is a goof beyond belief. People have stayed away from him in every unit he ever worked in. He should be fired. For this and all his other bullshit. But this alleged victim came into the 006th District and demanded $5,000 at the desk. She later told a female detective that for $5,000 she would forget about this incident. Right there she proves she has no credibility. Herman was a cop for 20 years. He knows all about DNA. Do you think he would leave a used condom at a crime scene? It was either consensual or paid for. Mary Mitchell claims some self admitted crack addict has sexual morals? Please. The most disgusting thing about the column was the way she ridiculed Herman's physical appearance. How about if John Kass wrote a story about Tank Johnson and his white girlfriend during Tank's legal troubles. What if Kass wrote, "It's hard to believe a young white girl would voluntarily live with a black man with a threatening build, beady eyes, and convicted gangster style braids". What would Mary say about that description?
Sgt Swordsman
I haved worked with john the last few years and although he does have his faults being a racist like Moprah is not one of them. She is a disgrace to good hardworking african americans because she is selling out her race to sell papers. she is stirring up unrest with no concern for truth or justice. John may have the conscious of an 8 year old but at least he has one.
wouldnt it be hysterical if he gets off and she gets nothing? Im sure she will get a big pay day from the city but once a crack whore always a crack whore so buy your stock in flaming hot cheetos and red pop!
Once Again, Tiny Brains
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Oh yeah? My tiny brain is bigger than your pee-pee
I WORKED AND KNEW THE FAT PIG FOR SIX YEARS. HE DID NOT LIKE OR LOVE WOMEN, BUT HE DID LOVE FAT NASTY HOE'S.
REGINALD POTTS was charged with
1st Degree Murder on Friday night with regards to the young murdered Black girl who's body was found in the South Suburbs. Will that racist Mary Mitchell have the balls to admit she was wrong or will she twist this around to make it another conspiracy by the White man.....
John would have paid the $5000.
Granted, John is a major goof (and thats being nice), however, the "victim" focused her eye on the city lottery after she was told that their "relationship" was over. Watch for her federal lawsuit, soon, and it will be obvious.
John Herman worked for Darling and Cline in Gangs.
There lack of supervision and respect for the disciplinary system is well documented.
That is why he was a merit sergeant and that is why he was not suspended when he was indicted.
I am suprised that he was not assigned as Finnegan's sergeant in SOS!
is john herman related at all to don herman who worked in 023 many years ago in the 60's? or mike herman? i hope not.
she is a pig,herman is a pig and the crackhead is a pig. if he raped her he would have got rid of the condom.
I only have one question for mitchell...Is that your face or are you breaking it in for a bulldog?
MY JOB AND THE URINE TEST
(I sure would like to know who wrote this one! They deserve a HUGE pat on
the back!)
I HAVE TO PASS A URINE TEST FOR MY JOB... AND I HAVE TO AGREE 100%
Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I
pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In
order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test
With which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the
distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I
have to pass one to earn it for them?
Please understand, I have no
problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other
hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their ASS, doing
drugs, while I work. . . .
Can you imagine how much money the state
would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance
check ?
Moprah shouldn't say this guy is so bad looking, and looks like Hitler with his mustache, etc; not with that mug of hers. She could scare corn of a cob with that mug of hers.
Don't know him, won't judge him but this whole story grosses me out.
Herman was screwing around with the wench, she wanted money and he didn't give it to her. Now she's looking for the same payday our asshat who said he was sodomized with a screwdriver got.
Herman may be a lowlife, but if he raped this woman, no fucking way he'd leave a condom behind or use a billy club that could be picked up. His biggest mistake was taking up with a POS from the street, then compounded by not being upfront when the allegations came.
I predict NOT GUILTY on the criminal trial, and he's fired and the city pays off the crack ho.
Throughout the course of this whore mongers' trial and all the media hype attached to it, I'd like to take a moment to express my sympathies to his ex-wife and kids who have to walk around with people knowing they were/are related to this asshole. You'd think the jagoff would take his lumps and spare his family the embarassment that accompanies his trial.
Why is that black loud mouth,race baiting,racist,poverty pimps like Jackson,Meeks,Davis,Beavers and mary mitchell to name a few,are not called out by local print media or Tv news outlets?Why are these loud mouth flame throwing motherfuckers dealt with with kid gloves?
Is there a difference with what that retard Don Imus said and what that retard Mary Mitchell said about Sgt. Herman the other day?
Has the FOP sent a letter to the scum times calling out race baiter Mitchell?
What would have happenend had John K, Mark B, or frankie M described Correy Flagg in the same manner as Moprah.
I have always disliked and hated Hermann but not his mother or children. describing him was disgrraceful by that racist woman,
we all agree and hope he is fired but if kass, brown, main, towmey,
referred to an african american in the same manner we would have civil unrest at the paper and continous news coverage buy the national media.
Anonymous said...
John Herman worked for Darling and Cline in Gangs.
There lack of supervision and respect for the disciplinary system is well documented.
That is why he was a merit sergeant and that is why he was not suspended when he was indicted.
I am suprised that he was not assigned as Finnegan's sergeant in SOS!
12/08/2007 09:47:00 AM
Herman is a lot of things, but a merit sergeant isn't one of them. He made it from the 3rd class of the test of '93. That was the last test before merit promotions.
Mary Mitchell is full of hate. Its a known fact that illness follows people filled with anger and hate. This woman can not possibly be a christian. As for Herman, no class but he is not a racist. City is a cash cow and everyone knows it. URINE FOR TAX DOLLARS.... AWESOME IDEA.
John Hermans dad (deceased det.)a pal of ex-sup. his grandfather(mothers dad)a big time judge from the past Judge Lee was a knucklehead as a kid and an embarrassment now
The Sgt is a deviate sexual pervert any heat this goofs gets I'm all for it. What a disgrace to man kind. The sad part is this dept condones the NASTY behavior of WHITE SHIRTS ONE OF THEIR OWN.
The city just paid 20mil whats another 5k??
Can you imagine how much money the state
would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance
check ?
12/08/2007 01:11:00 PM
This would cause riots!!!
Lets check the arcives to see what Mopra printed at the time Imus was fired. I bet she was the first one to call for him to be fired.
But she is black so she has the right to say what ever she wants.
He might leave the condom behind and not clean the DNA off his baton if he thought that she was intimidated enough not to report.
Frankly, having some knowledge of the first sex offense he was charged with I have no trouble believing he is capable of this. I'm surprised other women haven't come forward with similar allegations. From what I know of this incident, he acted like someone who has done it before and got away with it so he expected to again.
All this energy spent on Mope-rah and so little anger over what this "mope" did!
John Herman is a disgrace to the job and the badge. Period. Don't compare Tank Johnson, or anyone else, to Herman, and what he did.
What he did is nothing less than dispicable. Even if the skank came into 006 and demanded money, we expect nothing less of an ADDICT. John was ON DUTY, John wore a UNIFORM, John was a SUPERVISOR, John took an OATH, and he FAILED ALL OF US. Don't turn this around and blast anyone else for what HE DID. He's just the latest of a long serious patch of PIMPLES on the ASS of the CPD.
The sooner this is out of the papers and Herman is off the job, the better off we all will be. Good riddance to trash.
Mitchell is not a racist, Mitchell is a BIGOT, there is a distinct differences
Anonymous said...
Can you imagine how much money the statewould save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check ? This would cause riots!!!
12/08/2007 07:27:00 PM
That would be awesome. Great fucking idea!!
Anonymous said...
The Sgt is a deviate sexual pervert any heat this goofs gets I'm all for it. What a disgrace to man kind. The sad part is this dept condones the NASTY behavior of WHITE SHIRTS ONE OF THEIR OWN.
12/08/2007 07:21:00 PM
No, there was a patrolman in 011 that got away with that (ten years ago). But you're right, he does have a white shirt now..pathetic.
she is a pig,herman is a pig and the crackhead is a pig.
Sounds like Al Pacino in Dog Day Afternoon. "They're all out of order"
mary m. used to routinely meet with harvey "player" radney at a certain 18th district spot and discuss department issues. But nothing was ever said about radney's indiscretions with her or his bevy of beauties.
Anonymous said...
Throughout the course of this whore mongers' trial and all the media hype attached to it, I'd like to take a moment to express my sympathies to his ex-wife and kids who have to walk around with people knowing they were/are related to this asshole. You'd think the jagoff would take his lumps and spare his family the embarassment that accompanies his trial.
12/08/2007 02:18:00 PM
True dat.....
Can you imagine how much money the state
would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance
check ?
12/08/2007 01:11:00 PM
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First of all, someone like Mary Bitchall from the ScumTimes would call it racist 'cause druggin is just the way of life for those who collect welfare...and might I add for generations. And if they actually did that, the fraud would jump sky high for those who collect welfare and want to get away with testing positive and for those hired who would be testing the good folk collecting welfare....smell bribes, urine switches, and all other kinds of sham nonsense.
...follow up on the PO injured outside of Soldier's Field after a Bear's game...It was learned that a page out of the Chicago Sun Times with Mary Mitchell's picture and column blew past the horse's hooves and in a scene reminiscent of Chloris Leachman as Frau Bleucher from "Young Frankenstein", the horse reared up, striking the PO in the face with his head..It has also been learned that the PO attempted to bring a civil suit against Mary Mitchell for pain and suffering, time lost from employment, mental anguish and for being butt-assed ugly within the corporate limits of Chicago...No comment has been made by Mary Mitchell as of yet...No word yet as to whether or not the horse will seek damages from Mary Mitchell..The horse is said to be recieving treatment for his ordeal and a full recovery is hopeful..
Herman has been found GUILTY. What's even worse, the judge said that the testimony of TWO DETECTIVES who testified in Herman's defense was neither "credible or believable."
The judge said that he would send a copy of their testimony to the Supt.'s office. I have a feeling that Herman is going to receive a significant amount of time in prison to think about this, although it's very likely the sex between him and the crack star was
consensual. Damn! Prison time. Ouch. Another sucker punch received by the CPD, delivered by another of our own.
The verdict is in; GUILTY! And his bond revoked. He was taken into custody after a self-aggrandizing stunt, to wit, making a point of standing up, getting behind his chair and dressing down this Herman and the others who testified. I have been in the court room for many verdict decisions on bench trials for much more serious offenses. Now I don't know this Herman nor do I care to. But making a point of stating he will send the testimony of the detectives to the superintendant, over a hype csa. He should be ashamed of himself for continuing the mockery. Again I'm not defending this guy but the judge is GUILTY of piling on!
Herman was scooped from the court room and crying in the back....he is going to be launched by the pompous judge claps sometime in january, set for the 3rd but there will be much more legal showboating and rampant ego displays before this is over....happy new year!! remember that name JUDGE JOE CLAPS..ANY INFOR ON HIM IS APPRECIATED..
Anonymous said...
Has the FOP sent a letter to the scum times calling out race baiter Mitchell?
12/08/2007 03:28:00 PM
No. Herman is a Sergeant. Not our bargaining unit. Oh, yeah......he's guilty too. Shut the fuck up, s'il vous plait. (That's "por favor" in French, you uncultured, uneducated swine) Save your shit talk for when the FOP doesn't defend Abbate in the press. You can really go to town on the union then, dimwit.
Even though Sgt Herman is at best an idiot for this debacle. In no way did he deserve such unfair treatment by Mary Mitchell, the ASA's and anyone else. Let's face it and I am going to keep it real......had he been some m/1, with a criminal past and she had a criminal past, this case would have never made it to trial. The county wouldn't have wasted their time prosecuting this. But because he is a M/2 and a Sgt of Police........oh the political clamour to run this into court. I wonder how many offers the ASA who prosecuted this case is going to get?
Let me not forget Mary Mitchell in all of this...she should be fired for saying such. Had a white columnist said this about a black man........well we know what would be happening right now. And no, just because she is black it doesn't give her carte blanche to say what is on her mind.
Some of you would be surprised to know that we of the african american community don't like the way she thinks she represents for us and wish she would shut up.
My last thought, John shouldn't have been convicted of a CSA.......he should have been convicted of Aggravated Stupidity, dumbness and all over Lack of thinking!!
Bye, bye, John. It's about time it all caught up with you.
Here's his home address:
Claps, Joseph 530 Lathrop
River Forest, IL 60305
He's a political contributor to Jim Ryan, Lisa Madigan , Debra Shore (water reclamation) and Judge Kunkle
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