Wednesday, January 09, 2008

FOP Replies

  • On January 2nd, the Department sent out a fax message, #3080033, which directed Watch Commanders to obtain a “log number” for incidents of weapons discharge, taser incidents, suicides and attempted suicides for persons in custody. In this directive, a reference was made to Department Notice 06-37 which addresses the Automated Complaint System, causing great concern and confusion throughout the Lodge and the Department.

    On January 3rd, our concerns were presented to the Department who admitted errors in this new directive but who failed to take action to rectify or rescind the directive. On January 4th the Lodge sent a letter to the Department informing them that based upon their new directive, the Lodge would not permit an officer involved in a shooting to participate in the “round table” process. Within 3 hours after sending this notice to the Department, we received a call from them expressing a desire to discuss a means of resolution to this problem. At that time we were able to work out language that would be temporarily acceptable for the “round table” process. Further discussion resulted in the scheduling of a meeting with the Department on January 7th at which all of the concerns of the Lodge were addressed.

    Later that day, the Department sent out a fax message #80109 which rescinded the January 2nd fax, and fax #80110 which contained the language that was acceptable to the Lodge. We would like to stress that the issuance of a log number alone does not initiate a CR# nor is it an allegation of any misconduct. It is merely a tracking system for investigations that the City had initiated, without informing the Lodge.

    We hope this incident further emphasizes the position we have taken forever and that is that the Department needs to get this Lodge involved in the implementation of their policies and procedures prior to rolling them out to their Department Members.

Funny how these "errors" always seem to favor the City, always seem to come out of Stark's' office, and seem designed to appear just as the new guy is taking over thereby generating as much controversy, confusion and ill-will as possible - but that's our inner conspiracy nut talking.

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36 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sid Davis of FOP released his yearly calander. Has the overtime periods for 2008, but not the date we get paid for each ot period. Anyone know the pay dates?

1/09/2008 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The latest fax message requires the watch commander to obtain a log #. The authoring of an initiation report is waived. Department policy indicates a sworn affidavit is not required when the complainant is a sworn member; therefore, the log# will be converted into a CR investigation. The department and its members would be better served if a "U#" was obtained to investigate the incident.

1/09/2008 04:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THANK DALEY, THE KING OF BULLSHIT!!! ITS WHERE ALL THE PROBLEMS START WITH THIS JOB. ALL HE WANTS IS REVENUE FOR HIS OWN GREED. IF YOU HAVE CLOUT YOU CAN GET INTO SOME UNIT OR OTHER "SPOT" . IF NOT, REVENUE IS YOUR JOB FOR THE KING PIG. WHEN WE GETTING OUR CONTRACT FOP??!!! OR DO WE JUST KEEP WORKING WITHOUT ONE? OH BUT DONT LET ME BE 2MIN OVER MY LUNCH. I MIGHT GET CAUGHT BY AN INSPECTOR. BY THE WAY INSPECTORS OUT THERE, YOU HAVE A PRETTY GOOD JOB. HOW DO I GET TO BECOME ONE? JUST THOUGHT I WOULD ASK.

1/09/2008 04:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey FOP Where have you been? Must be an FOP Election year. You havent done anything or said anything to help us.

1/09/2008 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Vote out FOP!!!!

1/09/2008 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP like a bad fart Slient and Deadly!Thanks for all your help guys.I will remember when I vote.Then again you will steal the election like you did from the Blue Wave

1/09/2008 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

about time.

1/09/2008 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sends a Clear Message to all of us! ANSWER YOUR CALLS AND DO NO PROACTIVE POLICING! Be safe and go home to your family! Screw the city, da mayer, aldercreatures and the new supt.

1/09/2008 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
THANK DALEY, THE KING OF BULLSHIT!!! ITS WHERE ALL THE PROBLEMS START WITH THIS JOB. ALL HE WANTS IS REVENUE FOR HIS OWN GREED. IF YOU HAVE CLOUT YOU CAN GET INTO SOME UNIT OR OTHER "SPOT" . IF NOT, REVENUE IS YOUR JOB FOR THE KING PIG. WHEN WE GETTING OUR CONTRACT FOP??!!! OR DO WE JUST KEEP WORKING WITHOUT ONE? OH BUT DONT LET ME BE 2MIN OVER MY LUNCH. I MIGHT GET CAUGHT BY AN INSPECTOR. BY THE WAY INSPECTORS OUT THERE, YOU HAVE A PRETTY GOOD JOB. HOW DO I GET TO BECOME ONE? JUST THOUGHT I WOULD ASK.

1/09/2008 04:33:00 AM

an inspector easy! Just blow the right guy and your in! They are all clouted everyone of these idiots just more of daleys king making bullshit lies!

1/09/2008 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The issuance of a log number may not issue a CR# but it is still viewed as an allegation of misconduct. Ask the officers placed in the BIS back in 10/06. After going a year without getting any CR#s, some were kept in the program because of additional "log numbers" generated during the year. The department has only created another system to circumvent the CR policy agreement between CPD and FOP. Remember how TRRs were for your protection, to articulate the use of force model, and not put in place to track your behavior? Talk to the guys who are being put in the BIS because of excessive TRRs.

1/09/2008 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmmmmm... methinks 01/09/08 0433am has a pretty good point...
How exactly do you become an inspector? That may be the job to aspire to when one has the luck/fortune to become a lieutenant on this job because God only knows I've never seen a stressed out/aggravated inspector. Get your 3 to 5 movers a day, a clean company car with a computer and you never have to roll up your sleeves or get your shoes muddy and you NEVER have to actually have contact with anyone. Just drop the beefs off with the w/c and leave... even though personally I wouldn't haunt the troops in a/4 for trying to eat at the few places that have at least a tablecloth & running water in the bathrooms on a Sunday morning. But as I remember one supervisor saying, "I don't give a shit, I don't eat here anyway." (of course he cried like a little bitch when p.o's wrote tickets to the workers/managers at his "cheap" eat spot) Inspector? hell, I'd do it for the straight Lt's pay. Remember boys & girls, it's open season on the blue shirts... every man for himself. C.Y.A, if not then Y.O.Y.O. (sarcasm & silliness with a grain of truth for sure SCC!)

1/09/2008 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny how the FLOP only seems to take notice about these things after they are published here on SCC (or as the FLOP calls it, "the bathroom walls")

1/09/2008 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They put my OT on the same check as my duty availability.
Duty check wasn't due til 07 January and OT was due 12 January. They put them both on the same check; posted to my account on 04 January.

1/09/2008 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who inspects the inspectors?

1/09/2008 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all you worthless complainers,

I am here to tell you that the FOP was already addressing the issue with the Department well before this blog first mentioned anything about a log number. That is a fact.

Can't you give the FOP a little credit? I you refuse, the FOP will make your basement flood. They can do shit like that. They're magical. Trust me.

1/09/2008 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great the FOP stated the Order was resended! The FOP stated that the language was changed and is now acceptible to the FOP.

How about telling what the new language states so we can deside if it is acceptible to us.

1/09/2008 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember kiddies, we wouldn't need the Inspectors if Mom and Dad just parented better.

1/09/2008 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"who inspects the inspectors?"

ahhh! that is one of life's enduring mysteries weed-hopper. if you can but snatch the sack o' flamin'-hots from my hand i will reveal it to you.

signed:

master po-ass,
Ya Hu Monastery

1/09/2008 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey FOP, DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING.

Time to start shopping for a real UNION, not some Frat. Organization. Tired of the retoric, how about some action for a change.

1/09/2008 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all you worthless complainers,

I am here to tell you that the FOP was already addressing the issue with the Department well before this blog first mentioned anything about a log number. That is a fact.

Can't you give the FOP a little credit? I you refuse, the FOP will make your basement flood. They can do shit like that. They're magical. Trust me.

1/09/2008 07:09:00 PM

What are they doing about the sworn affidavit for citizen complaints situation? Nothing as far as I can tell

1/09/2008 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok FOP... Why are LOG #s, which are not CR#s, used against FOP members. FOP members are being placed in Behavioral Interventions and Personnel Concerns because of LOG #s that some idiot obtained. Why is this FOP? Please call FOP to find out. LOG #s should not be used against FOP members. Come on FOP!! Stand up and fight this!! An FOP member may get 10 LOG #s in a year and they are all BS!!! Yet this member is now in BI. Yet not a word from the FOP!! Time for a new union.

1/09/2008 10:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why do we need log #'s for the tazers when we have...TRR's? More red tape, more loop de loops. If the iad or ops or whoever was on the ball to begin with, they would be reviewing trrs, not starting a whole new screw the men in blue log # program...

1/10/2008 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha! FLOP? Magical? please! To paraphrase the old joke about dropping an empty revolver and a box of shells amongst monkeys... I dare say I've had better luck with the monkeys figuring how to load & fire the damn revolver than FLOP being of some REAL help.

1/10/2008 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP what the hell are you doing? very little i guess. thanks for nothing.

1/10/2008 03:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"who inspects the inspectors?"

ahhh! that is one of life's enduring mysteries weed-hopper. if you can but snatch the sack o' flamin'-hots from my hand i will reveal it to you.

signed:

master po-ass,
Ya Hu Monastery

/////////// thats easy DALEY does. now give me some your grape pop cause iam thirsty !!

1/10/2008 03:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Ok FOP... Why are LOG #s, which are not CR#s, used against FOP members. FOP members are being placed in Behavioral Interventions and Personnel Concerns because of LOG #s that some idiot obtained. Why is this FOP? Please call FOP to find out. LOG #s should not be used against FOP members. Come on FOP!! Stand up and fight this!! An FOP member may get 10 LOG #s in a year and they are all BS!!! Yet this member is now in BI. Yet not a word from the FOP!! Time for a new union.

1/09/2008 10:05:00 PM

Maybe you could ask mom and dad the sgts who could help us all out! WTF! We are under intrense pressure anyone in this environment who does any pro-activbe policing needs their heads examined! Simple as that!

1/10/2008 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"who inspects the inspectors?"

ahhhh! you have chosen poorly weed-hopper... for inspectors are sublimely enlightened entities unto themselves. no flamin' hots for you, but behold! you have earned your proper reward, which is...

nothing. not only shall you have nothing, you shall act in the manner of one who enjoys having nothing for that is the po-ass way.
now go ye... fetch some ice for my grape/fruit punch combo is getting warm...

Master Po-Ass,
Ya Hu Monastery

1/10/2008 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More ways to screw the workers wtf! If you want no work fine the little I do will be less! I want my pension and to retire you can generate all the numbers you want but no more proactive policing for me as daley always states "simple as that" Hey that statement could not come from a more simpleton than daley who gives everything away especially if you don't work in this city fre cheese!

1/10/2008 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can the FOP now do something about being placed on BIS for justified use of force practices, ie: oc spray, taser, etc? It doesnt seem fair to be put on BIS (which disqualified you from the SWAT process as well as many other things) when you're just doing what you were taught by the Use of Force model thats even printed in the FOP book.

1/10/2008 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great the FOP stated the Order was resended! The FOP stated that the language was changed and is now acceptible to the FOP.

How about telling what the new language states so we can deside if it is acceptible to us.

1/09/2008 08:10:00 PM

Resended?!?! Acceptible?!?!? Deside?!?!?

Sur, yu R cleerly far to dumm to be alloud 2 deside watt iz acceptible. EMBARASSMENT!! -- (spelled correctly, in case you want to check) Quit, please.

1/10/2008 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are they doing about the sworn affidavit for citizen complaints situation? Nothing as far as I can tell

1/09/2008 09:37:00 PM

Hey Genius,

1. The FOP got you the sworn affidavit legislation.
2. There has been a large decline in CR's since the affidavit was required. So,,,,,,,,
3. What "situation" are you talking about?

You know, the FOP may be able to make it rain and make your basement flood and cause plagues of locusts, droughts, tornadoes, etc., etc.. BUT, even the FOP cannot fix a "situation" that apparently is only in your feeble mind. Enlighten us. Better yet, visit the union rather than talking smack on the web.

1/10/2008 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dare say I've had better luck with the monkeys figuring how to load & fire the damn revolver than FLOP being of some REAL help.

1/10/2008 01:43:00 AM

Dude. Seriously. What the fuck? You've HAD better luck with monkeys loading and firing a revolver? What kind of moronic freak are you? Who the hell gives monkeys a pistol? You either can't communicate in words exactly what you mean and are thus quite stupid; or, you give guns and ammo to monkeys. Later, Tard.

1/10/2008 10:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey FOP, DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING.

Time to start shopping for a real UNION, not some Frat. Organization. Tired of the retoric, how about some action for a change.

1/09/2008 09:15:00 PM

Capital plan! How about the Teamsters? Here's your assignment, poopiepants. Get one police collective bargaining agreement negotiated by the Teamsters (or any other group you call a "real union") for that matter and post it right here on SCC. Let everyone see how the "real unions" do it. Get to work. Then, your stupidity will be on display for all the world to see and you will have unwittingly promoted your enemy, the FOP. Ratfarts!!!

1/10/2008 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1/10/2008 10:02pm

"Dude?" Is that the best you can manage? Only hairgels or trolls respond with "dude." Did you get the part about paraphrasing or do you have your head so far up your ass that you're reading the blog through your fly? Now go clutch that blow up doll and have a cry on the pissy mattress in your grandmother's basement... hand tool!

1/11/2008 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Dude?" Is that the best you can manage? Only hairgels or trolls respond with "dude." Did you get the part about paraphrasing or do you have your head so far up your ass that you're reading the blog through your fly? Now go clutch that blow up doll and have a cry on the pissy mattress in your grandmother's basement... hand tool!

1/11/2008 12:09:00 AM

Listen Ma'am,

I actually knowing what "paraphrasing" is. You clearly do not. In the future, you are well advised not to engage me in written internet disputes. You're not smart enough. Not even close, dude.

1/11/2008 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1/11/2008 10:45pm

Do you actually know what paraphrasing means?

Are you in the process of knowinging what paraphrasing means?

Have you ever known what paraphrasing means?

Or is it as you said, "I actually knowing what paraphrasing is."

Congratulations to you, power tool.

1/12/2008 12:57:00 AM  

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