Morale Up or Down?
From the comments:
- Morale is at an all time low and all these changes are making it a lot worse.
Morale has been low, no argument there. Changes making it worse though? We don't know about that. It's provided more entertainment than we've had in a decade at the very least. The only ones suffering are those who have been attached by the hip or lip to various political animals for the duration of their careers. They're the ones scared to go back to Patrol, frightened of the streets, glorified secretaries with guns who never were or never tried to be the police.
As for the changes, we think the same way about the Department that we feel about politics - change isn't all bad. A shake up of the status quo can be good in the long run. This Department has been too hidebound and too ossified for too long. It wasn't in a rut, it was in a trench, and a damn deep trench at that.
The only trouble is how deep the calcification goes. We have a layer of merit and political hacks that runs pretty deep and this scraping J-Fed is doing might not be deep enough to effect real and lasting change.
As for the changes, we think the same way about the Department that we feel about politics - change isn't all bad. A shake up of the status quo can be good in the long run. This Department has been too hidebound and too ossified for too long. It wasn't in a rut, it was in a trench, and a damn deep trench at that.
The only trouble is how deep the calcification goes. We have a layer of merit and political hacks that runs pretty deep and this scraping J-Fed is doing might not be deep enough to effect real and lasting change.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
121 Comments:
Morale is just a tad higher since Jody started. Just my thought. I like that he is throwing different ideas out there even if there is no possibility of them i.e. 12 hour days and mandatory fitness. It shows he is willing to change or at least think outside the box and that is what he need in our leader.
All I need for morale to go through the roof is a new work schedule. 6 and 2 needs to changed immediately.
"The only ones suffering are those who have been attached by the hip or lip to various political animals for the duration of their careers. They're the ones scared to go back to Patrol, frightened of the streets, glorified secretaries with guns who never were or never tried to be the police."
Tobias is just hoping to be be back on the streets. Maybe he'll learn what it's like to be a PO. At least he'll keep his job for another day.
Or not?
Stay tunned....
I have to laugh when I see j fed in uniform. He looks like a ppo with his name tag and not even an honorable mention or caps award bar. But then again he never was nor will he be the "Real Police".
He aint Scraping, he's rearranging the chairs @ the behest of his mastr, Lord Ritchie the Runt.
SCC , please post you resume' I see a college degreed idealist who grew up in the burbs & the closest you came to the urban environs is when Daddy took you to Cubs games.
You have an acute sense of the machinations of the City, but sometimes you're naive or just plain clueless.
Hey SCC looks like J-Fed has started a disinformation campaign about demotions and promotions....aimed at ruining your credibility!!
Keep posting all these rumors and help his campaign.
Morale still sucks~especially with an FBI boss who will NEVER be one of us....
I just had the mandatory in-car camera training. It can be summed up in three words "screw over patrolmen". Every time you think this Dept can't make district patrol suck any more than it does, by God these assclown bosses make a liar out of me. 5 years to go and it's 20 and out for me.
Love being a CHICAGO POLICEMAN. HATE THIS police department.And all you company men can kiss my ass.
Two thumbs up for W-W-Weis. The new wrestling superstar.
Morale is low because some of these bosses are heartless bastards like O'Keefe. His own staff can't stand him because he treats them like shit.
I don't think he got memo on how bosses should be the example for how someone is to be treated. The way he belittles and treats people is absolutely uncalled for. I waiting for him to beat up a female bartender.
To all the goofs who are stating that the LT & SGT's test are coming down...WRONG. CITY HALL controls the testing and hiring process not the CPD. It costs money to give a test...the CITY sent home recruits last month because THEY HAVE NO MONEY TO PAY FOR TRAINING & PAYING THEM!!! The city is being shaken by the ammount of money it has to pay out for snow removal due the harsh winter. So shut up about tests being taken down, and try studying next time ;3 years from now.......
Hey SCC looks like J-Fed has started a disinformation campaign about demotions and promotions....aimed at ruining your credibility!!
Keep posting all these rumors and help his campaign.
Disinformation? Which rumor? Most of it was correct - Volgaris, O'Donnell, Caluris, Egan, Kolman, Carroll, Chiczewski, Rosebrock. All those were spot-on.
Remember, we're the only Department that ran a "Rumor Central" hotline for years. Rumors have been around longer than us...and evidently a LOT longer than you.
It all depends if the Command changes has an effect on you or not.
I hope J-Fed gets rid of and makes more Commander changes here in HQ.
Another useless ass Commander that needs to go is that Commnader Jonathon Lewin another "Phil Cline hack"!
What a 'Nitwit"!
He has the personality of a buffoon!
He has no people skills or management skills whatsoever!
He has his own social agenda to promote and if your NOT part of the click then you don't stand a chance of getting a promotion nomination by him!
His Detective, Sergeants and Lt.'s nominations are based on friendships and favors, rather the bonafide credentials!
Hey J-fed check out his last few Merit nominations and call him on the carpet about them and then compare that to other folks Resumes in the units he oversees! This being said, it does NOT matter how hard you work to make a success within these Units, it is how well you blow him!
He is by far the most unfair boss, I have seen yet down here and takes credit without giving credit to the hard workers in his Units, who makes his ass look good!
So Morale under Units 125, 133, 134 175, 376, is in the toliet because of this goof!
Hey J-fed get rid of this "Phil Cline Hack"!
We have the Mayor with more control over the Dept. than ever. Some dumps good for the Dept., some bad. But he don't have a clue what he is doing and it will start to show. These FBI guys wearing the uniform, makes me sick and most of other real police I talk to. This thing with the new recruits being delayed untill May is a travesty, and also means more shortages on the street. How come so far only 2 minority exempts have been demoted. Shields, Brown, Doty, Williams and Green are still here and may be promoted. They tout this 12 hour day as the cure for morale. 12 hours in Englewood? 12 hours in Harrison? 12 hours in lots of places. What about that 3rd day after you just finished 8 and have 4 more to go. (10 hour days are the way to go).
Grau, Vulgarous, Risley, should not have been treated the way they were treated. These FBI guys think driving around on the West side on Friday night makes them the POLICE and gives them wisdom and experience of a real cop. NOT.
Not my morale is just as low as before, and going down.
Pallidin
My morale would improve if Shields was demoted after J-Fed discovered his sexual harassment C.R.'s and if Day and Stanley were gone.
3/08/2008 06:53:00 AM
Are you jeolous of SCC's success, chief?
None of this has affected me. My morale hasn't changed.
376 morale is in the toilet because it's 376. what he hell is there that would put you in a good mood. Coppers on the brink of losing the job? pregnant women? medical roll?
Exclude 376 from the morale meter.
Morale used to be great. no one wanted to leave, we loved the job. Now it blows. Look at the Capts and Lts. they are a MAIN reason for morale being good or bad. If you have a good captain or Lt that could make or break a watch. Look at 025 days. It was a great watch, now Fagiano single-handedly destroyed it. It shows you that if the captain is a loser with no self respect, he will utilize the only power he has in life to make work miserable.
Anyone above the rank of commander eally has no effect on the rank and file unless they start fucking with your unit bosses, then it trickles down. Kinda like reaganomics for morale.
3/08/2008 09:23:00 AM
If he is not replaced then TO, AND JW are not legit in their leadership positions.
Daley pawns all the way.
Anyone who has been around for any amount of time is somewhat disappointed in the manner the demotions are being handled. We all understand any boss has the right to name their own team. Complain as we might this is still their prerogative. The rub comes from the manner its being done. Word has it these folks are called in and given the bad news. No discussion as to the decision’ rationale, no opportunity to refute any mis-information – just a “Wham Bam Thank You Mam” and out the door. These folks – no matter what you may think of them – deserved better. Each of them has devoted years of service to the Department. I’m sure each of them had a relationship with someone whose star is in the Honored Star Case. Like it or not each of them did their duty.
Don’t know this to be a fact but a 35th Street source told me Commander William O’Donnell walked into the Superintendent’s Office with a big smile on his face - extended his hand and said “nice to finally meet you, did you have something on your mind?” Way to go Bill. After he was summarily dismissed I heard that Jim Carroll extended his hand to everyone as he left the 5th floor in truly a classy manner. Say what you will about him, in my book he was always a gentleman. And no I never worked for any of the victims of this Palace Coup.
As far as the theory that only Cline appointees are being singled out. Remember, Rosebrock has been exempt for I believe 7 to 8 years -appointed by Hillard. NOTE: another source tells me that Rosebrock’s numbers at 019 were better than the former Commanders of 010 and 011. I guess older – overweight – bald – white guys - need not apply, no matter how competent and capable. Don’t fit the mandated Mayoral demographics. Same for O’Donnell - was Hillard’s Administrative Assistant before being sent to 018. Rumor has it both had offended Peterson in some manner.
Once again I must put the disclaimer of this being non-verifed information. However, the sources have been 100 % accurate in the past.
Morale is non-existent! It is really interesting to me that po's can get stripped over 2 muts that are looking at dollar signs and beef and have a total of 36 arrests, but a sexual harassment type beef of an exempt gets over-looked and he gets promoted.
There are numerous intances that exemplify the direction of this department: ONE WAY (that is if you have clout you are all-good)
MORALE??? What's that. I am so ashamed ot say where I work.
I tell people Im a garbage man.
Daley has screwed this department up so bad it unrepairable.
Find something else to do on the side that makes money and brings happiness. Then just collect your checks and live a long healthy retirement.
Nothing will change. I dont vote I dont care about anything other that the 1st and 16th. My family notices the difference and I am a much happier person. Those of you who make this shit hole your life will die young!
down like the dow jones! Oh.
morale is at an all time high ....yo...
A quick morale question for the new boss- how come a meritless CR# from IAD takes 2 weeks from start to threatening with time, while department awards like life saving awards are over 30 months in arrears. Our unit had 2 guys never get their little "ATTA-BOY" ribbons for a job well done. One retired and the other [RIP Mac] caught cancer and died horrably. Come on Boss, suit-up, shake a couple of working POs hands and take a picture with them holding their kid. You might just make a couple of people feel OK about doing the job again.
Don't be like Charlie Williams was, who wouldn't talk to a PO walking by in a hallway.
The only time most big bosses see POs is either at their funeral or at a Police Board hearing
no...morale is low, very low. wait until you get the cameras in your cars. i am in one of those districts... morale was improving, but now the cameras and the shitheads are getting wind of it and think they own everything.. lowest ive ever seen it
Folks, let's not forget that some of that footage from the dash-cams just might show up on Youtube or the 24/7 news shows, and maybe the clueless public will get a chance to see some of the drunks, shitheads and other dirtbags who piss on us every day. Maybe...maybe there's a tiny little bit of a silver lining out there...
i'm happy.....happy that I'm leaving
Anonymous said...
A quick morale question for the new boss- how come a meritless CR# from IAD takes 2 weeks from start to threatening with time, while department awards like life saving awards are over 30 months in arrears. Our unit had 2 guys never get their little "ATTA-BOY" ribbons for a job well done. One retired and the other [RIP Mac] caught cancer and died horrably. Come on Boss, suit-up, shake a couple of working POs hands and take a picture with them holding their kid. You might just make a couple of people feel OK about doing the job again.
Don't be like Charlie Williams was, who wouldn't talk to a PO walking by in a hallway.
The only time most big bosses see POs is either at their funeral or at a Police Board hearing
3/08/2008 01:01:00 PM
B E A U T I F U L LY SAID AND PERFECTLY TRUE. THANKS FOR THAT
In order to get male coppers in shape, Commander Lewin has authorized piggy back rides in his office.
morale is still in the toilet. i do my job-answer calls, write paper, and make arrests on signed complaints only. if you do more than that, you're a damn fool. other coppers will rat you out and supervisors dont have you back anymore. until merit promotions are fixed-meaning only qualified people are promoted 'meritoriously' instead of the garbage that hilliard and cline promoted, the morale will continue to be at an all-time low.
"MORALE??? What's that. I am so ashamed ot say where I work.
I tell people Im a garbage man.
Daley has screwed this department up so bad it unrepairable.
Find something else to do on the side that makes money and brings happiness. Then just collect your checks and live a long healthy retirement.
Nothing will change. I dont vote I dont care about anything other that the 1st and 16th. My family notices the difference and I am a much happier person. Those of you who make this shit hole your life will die young!
3/08/2008 11:00:00 AM"
Wow.......just think, dogs like this are who has your back if the shit goes down.
Morale, that's funny. I've never heard of that word. I had to look it up. You should title this section "Back stabbing up or down?"
All this talk about morale,work schedule,cameras,computers, fitness,blah blah blah
WE DONT HAVE A CONTRACT
Our current benefit package is terrible, for anyone with a family its even worse
Why dont we start discussing relevant topics, the reason we all work is to make money, are there any proposals that could possibly help us survive financially.
Our health and dental insurance really needs to be improved, I know that CPD has one of the youngest personnel and a lot of these topics arent important to them right now, but we are losing more and more in benefits.
All this smoke and mirrors about fitness and changing the work week is meaningless. The city throws some bone our way, we jump all over it but miss the real meat that they leave on the table.
Lets put more pressure on the FOP at the meetings, lets get our real needs met and forget about all this other fluff, we all knew how the system worked when we signed up.
Here’s my two cents worth for what they’re worth…
Someone is leading Weis in these decisions, and while I don’t know who it is, this person is a direct link to the mayor and is at Headquarters in a trusted advisory role to Weis. The mayor has wanted to get rid of a whole bunch of people he was forced to get promotions for and finally found a way to do it without pissing off his financial backers that he owed favors. He appoints the new guy, an outsider with an I don’t owe nobody nothin’ attitude so when his backers call beefing he can just say there’s nothing he could do about it.
Weis is a pawn in the mayor’s game of chess that has been led to believe he’s either a bishop or king. In typical Daley fashion he has this puppet doing exactly what he wants without the puppet even knowing the strings are attached.
Weis’ plan is divide and conquer, and everyone of us are falling right into it. Each move he makes or possible idea (12 hr shift, fitness standards) brings more and more reaction both for and against, building an even bigger wall between take your pick, hair gel police and dinosaurs, headquarters’ personnel and beat cops, the real police and people in units or slower districts, the list goes on.
And what’s the end goal of all of this? Daley will have just cause to get rid of Weis when the stats keep rising, morale keeps tanking, and all of his minions are in place. Once he gets rid of Weis, wonder boy Huberman will be appointed because of his vast experience running the CTA and knowledge of the police department and won’t have to make any command changes because the puppet already took care of everything.
Huberman will then make the same empty promises he made while at OEMC that never came to fruition, and we’ll all be in lock step because we’ll be so relieved Weis is gone. I give all of this about a two year window. Thank God I’ll be KMA by that time, because there is no way I will ever work under Huberman.
News Flash boys and girls, Jody was not brought here to make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. He was brought here to cut off the head of the dragon and dismember the body. You think this guy is making these decisions on his own, HAHAHA. Da Mayor has Jody in his pocket and is pushing all the buttons and pulling all the strings. He is here to break the backs of all of the free thinkers and get the rest of you boys and girls in line. Yes Sir, No Sir, Three bags full Sir. No questioning the brass, No free thinking. He is here to oppress the troops. The whippings will continue until morale improves.
I just had the mandatory in-car camera training. It can be summed up in three words "screw over patrolmen". Every time you think this Dept can't make district patrol suck any more than it does, by God these assclown bosses make a liar out of me. 5 years to go and it's 20 and out for me.
3/08/2008 07:24:00 AM
Don't worry.....can't afford to get them in the cars anyway....can't even afford fucking computers....and if you can get a computer what is the likelyhood that it works properly. radio batteries cant hold a charge of more than 2 hours....starts chirping right away. They would rather spend money on bullshit like light up beat tags, swipers and that Oh so important station paint job for when J-FED comes to visit.
Another reason we can't afford shit is because the city is so quick to settle lawsuits that are winnable because they say it is "cost effective". BULLSHIT....still paying city attorneys whether in court or not. People know this and are suing like crazy....they see the city as "Deep Pocket Chicago" and are going after us.....and for such unprovable bullshit.....stressing our P/O's and their families.
We give the city billions if not trillions of dollars every year with tickets we write....save your parkers, anov's, movers, BA books for a year and tally it up.....then multiply that by 8,790 (because that's really how many we have out there....not that mysterious 10,500 or so) then divide by 2 (gotta count for dismissed tickets) that is a WHOPPING number.......covers way more than my PISS ASS salary.
I'm so poor I can't even afford to pay attention.......I wish the UNION would realize that we can ask for more than 6% over 3 years......Go for 20% or more, shit how about 50% and battle it out....
Off topic but I was sitting here thinking J-Fed/Fraud is worrying about DUI roadblocks, officer fitness, and drinking at the South Side parade and continues to show all of Cline's people the door. I have no loyalty to any boss, I'm not that privy. It is just pretty funny he is so worried about making changes he must not realize the biggest change he is making, the homicide rate!! LMAO this is one of the coldest winters in recent years and we are already up. Wait till summer comes and the savages are acting like nut jobs. I guess I will stop commenting on things way above my pay grade.
Morale SUX but we do have jobs for LIFE!!!
Awards are BS on this dept so the asshat that makes that comment about Jfed is a losser.
CPD Academy to shut down in 3 weeks and then all the staff will be FLUSHED. Bye Bye. Back to the streets. Now you can practice what U preach and be the real po po.
IN 006, MORALE IS EXTREMELY HIGH, CUZ WE ARE HEARING TRU IS GETTING OUR FEARLESS, INCOMPETENT LEADER....FUCK YOU TRU!!!!
-006 COPPERS
you know i thought that J-fed may have been a good thing at first, with the retirement of a lot of dead weight, but after just a little more thought and consideration i realize that we are screwed. it dawned on me that we have a man who has never pushed a beat car a day in his life making decisions based on his experiance from a cubicle half way across the country... or should i say based on what ulcle richie tells him, after all he is just another puppet pandering to the reverands and the like. think about it, if you were making 300,000 a year locked for three years would you really give a shit about 13,000 people you have never met, doing a job you have never done?
i just joined CPD and for all of my love for this job i still wonder if i should have stayed in suburbia... i just hope that i did not join a sinking ship
Morale should be its highest on the 1st & 16th!!!!
The loss of Commander Voulgaris to the TRU Unit is devastating. The members of TRU wish Eli all the best and a message to D.C. Shields and whomever his new commander of TRU may be - do everything possible to retain Sgt. Angelo Hitiris BT. 4244 - without him the unit may totally collapse. He is a diligent worker, helps boost morale amoungst unit members, and is very productive as a supervisor!
752am, GREAT POST, VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!
Morale will continue to be low until changes are done at city hall.
Stanley won't go~she's attached to the Stroger family.
Was it STanley at a meeting who didn't know what a felony 101 is?
I hate this job.
I'm going to start wearing dresses to work so I can get a psych discharge like Klinger on MASH.
You people are so stupid.
J-Fed is actually Conrad Black after cosmetic surgery.
Rather than go to prison, Conrad Black now runs the CPD. He did this so he could "leak" half-baked ideas and rebuild his Sun-Times empire.
Who is the Conrad Black sitting in federal prison, you ask?
You guessed it....its Seizer!
Everyone needs to be more patient and let this guy do his job. He has to start somewhere and I agree with getting rid of the current exempt staff. Every one of them contributed to our bad morale and to other current problems.
The way hes doing it, well, what else do you want him to do? Send them flowers? This is business. Its finally being done the way it always should have been done.
These bosses dumped some coppers without an explanation and did it behind the coppers back. At least the supe is telling them to their face.
This is karma. Screw them.
SCC (with all due respect), if you have to ask...You know it sucks.
More than just the job...society has a lot to do with it.
Also, 'big brother' is alive and growing.
Watching these bosses get slaughtered and humiliated is glee. If any of them cared as much as they said they cared about us all these years, why aren't they sticking around? Why dont they take the pay cut and show their devotion and stay on the job they said they loved? It was always the money. It was always about them. Fuck them. Fuck their retirement parties. My morale is high.
J-FART is not answer to our prayers. He will do nothing for our morale but take it further down the tube then it is now . DA MARE still runs him like a puppet and always will . Things will never change in this city.
My morale is low every time I see J-Fed in a CPD uniform. Today he was on the news, again with Little Richie, this time in a CPD leather jacket and all his regalia. While he's at 35 & Mich maybe he should stroll through the lobby and see what it's really like to ern the right to weat Chicago Blues. Raymond Kelly of NYPD is technically a civilian like J-Fed nd you never see him in uniform, even though he's retired NYPD. Quit playing police Mr. Superintendent...until you graduate our Academy and work our streets. In other words, sir, pay your dues!
Morale is LOW. How many PO's are stripped? Tell us the reasoning. Tell us what the parameters are before we violate them. Give us the guidelines. Don't change them in mid stream, tell us it's wrong now. eg: excessive force beef, no investigation, officer stripped. Strip everyone with an excessive force beef or no one!!
UP UP and AWAY!!!
Stanley is ignorant, incompetant and has a speech patern that makes Daley sound inteligant, but she is John Strogers niece so the beast aint going anywhere. Whacking clines guys is easy hes gone the stroger political hack machine is still beating wiess aint got the stones to go after the political hacks put in by burke stroger carothers(his twice merit useless brother),mell or Lapa. If your political your fine.
All you fucking crybabies who bitch about J-Fed wearing the uniform need to get a fucking life.
He got certified as a peace officer in Illinois, so he can wear the uniform like any other outsider hired as a chief. He only wears it for ceremonial purposes anyway, so it's OK with me.
The back stabbing and hateful comments on this blog are worse than the shit you'd hear from a 7th grader. Grow up!
He'll make changes just as any boss does. The important things are to keep your noses clean, do your job the best you can and back each other up.....then go home to your families.
Quit worrying about petty bullshit.
CPD Academy to shut down in 3 weeks and then all the staff will be FLUSHED. Bye Bye. Back to the streets. Now you can practice what U preach and be the real po po.
3/08/2008 04:21:00 P
Um, what do they do with the classes..current and upcoming recruit, in-car camera, promotions, etc?? What's a matter, got cut from hockey or something...douche
Want morale to skyrocket? Open up residency Little King Richy. I can move to a suburb and actually use the school system. I can afford a house with a big backyard with lower taxes. Leave the city to the rich and eclectic to frolic nude hand in hand. Give me some peace and quiet and let me ride my bike to work from the suburbs. There is your fitness plan Jack Crawford....I mean Mr. Weis.
the starship lexington, unit 376, is loaded with guys who don't belong here. stripped and sent down there for who knows how long. no one can tell you. some guys do belong here and are on their way out. many do not and have no due process. at least the bosses here are good.
9:00 news channel 9 J-FED looks like a bust-out member of the village people. Nice leather jacket!
What morale? At first I wasn't bothered by this Fed wearing the uniform but when I see this goof at an anti gun rally with Daley and see him now wearing the field uniform, a leather jacket I must admit this guy is a complete jag off. First he promotes Shields and now wears several versions of our uniform so what is this asshole gonna do about morale? Not a thing he is first and foremost a Fed which means he never was, will be or has been the police. On a side note will somebody tell Duncan to worry about the CPS grades and drop out rate and not worry about gun control which is something he obviously knows nothing about. Hey wait until St. Jude by then the Fed will have given himself some awards so he can have a chest full of ribbons on the uniform he never earned.
To the DICK-Head who keeps crying about the Contract, Shut the Fuck Up!!!! We have a contract in full force. The only thing missing is raises. Be careful what you wish for, the new contract may take some real nice protections we have away. If you need the money work special. So kiss my ass you Fuckin cry baby Loser!!!!!
I agree that many of these exempts gettin slashed were promoted under th, but pc kept them around because thats the old boys way of doin things.
Did it ever occur to any of you that the reason they're gettin launched is because they're just lousy at their job?
Maybe now everyone can see that th and pc were poor judges of character and based promotions solely on friendship.
Wow.......just think, dogs like this are who has your back if the shit goes down.
3/08/2008 03:13:00 PM
When the shit hits the fan that p.o will be the first to responed! Just because he doesn't make this job his "life" he is a dog?
You need to understand the city of Chicago doesn't want you to be the police . They want you to be a post active police officer. going after "bad Guys " causes law suits which the liberals give money to the "bad guys " and YOU lose your job! I've got almost 20 years on this job and agree with what this p.o stated. Remember, being a "WORKING" police is great but when you lose your job,it means nothing!! People like the "dog" and myself will always back you up! We just learned it isn't worth losing your job and family to a bunch of liberals who hate us anyways.
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I agree with someone from tru who said they were trained by officers with 1 or 2 years on. That is true across the board, and it isn't their fault.
It started in 1986 with mass hiring of 200 per month. Kids had to partner up with kids. 10 years later hillard starting making these kids commanders, and clien only made it worse. I always said that was the beginning of the depts downfall.
Nobody cared about proper police training, they only cared about schmoozing to get promoted.
The guy only been our boss for 6weeks. Will you give him a chance to create his staff first? Only then will we be able to see a difference.
The rub comes from the manner its being done. Word has it these folks are called in and given the bad news. No discussion as to the decision’ rationale, no opportunity to refute
Cry me a river, too fucking bad. Worry about the patrolmen who receives shit treatment and no advancement. stuck in patrol as an old man or women because they have no juice. Are you out of your mind.
my morale was going up slightly with hope that the new super will change things for the better... then I took the in car camera class.. which caused my overall level of job satisfaction to plummet into an abyss of apathy.... I officially no longer give two shits about proactively policing... my sole function is to stay off camera and fade away without being noticed. I am only answering calls from now on, that's it. I guess that's all they really want from us anyway.... Sincerely, a former ticket-writing, head hunting, working patrolman...
006 = LOW MORALE!
So fare J-Fraud's promotions have been ever so politically correct.
Richie the Rat is still calling the show.
Nothing changes in Chicago, the rats always win.
J-fraud, exactly how many hours have you spent in your "other" position. You know, and yuthat one that Richie the Rat said justified your stealing $315.000 per year from the taxpayers?
Focus those beady lil eyes of your in the mirror and what do your see?
Daley's newest bought boy.
Anonymous said...
I hate this job.
I'm going to start wearing dresses to work so I can get a psych discharge like Klinger on MASH.
3/08/2008 05:45:00 PM
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no, they'll transfer you to 023
Definitely down
Folks, let's not forget that some of that footage from the dash-cams just might show up on Youtube or the 24/7 news shows, and maybe the clueless public will get a chance to see some of the drunks, shitheads and other dirtbags who piss on us every day. Maybe...maybe there's a tiny little bit of a silver lining out there...
3/08/2008 02:17:00 PM
or maybe they'll see you taking care of busines in some fashion and misinterpret it
After he was summarily dismissed I heard that Jim Carroll extended his middle finger to everyone as he left the 5th floor in truly a classy manner.
These bosses dumped some coppers without an explanation and did it behind the coppers back. At least the supe is telling them to their face.
This is karma. Screw them.
3/08/2008 05:53:00 PM
Yes, sir. I got dumped by a female commander and did not find out til the order came out. At least some of you exempt whores got a week's notice.
Anonymous said....Anonymous said...
The rub comes from the manner its being done. Word has it these folks are called in and given the bad news. No discussion as to the decision’ rationale, no opportunity to refute,
I did not know I was dumped until the order cam out. The bitch mary west put bad paper on me.
I'm so poor I can't even afford to pay attention
3/08/2008 03:58:00 PM
be careful with that one its an antique...OH!
12 hour shifts would hurt like HELL!!! let's start with 10 hour shifts 1st!!!!!!
Alvorado, Kirby and Tobias are Cline people. I was just wondering, if we are dumping all the Exempts who will all retire, where are we going to get the people to replace them? My last count was 16 open spots. The Distircts are already short Lieutenants. Ok, you take the Lieutenants, when are you going to promote more. Ok, you promote more, why don't you encompass that number when you do this Sergeant promotion so we won't be back to the drawing board once this is said and done? It doensn't take a Rocket Scientist, just a P.O. from 008 to point out the obvious.
I love this job and can't wait to go in each shift, so I can drive a crap car, with a non working computer, and use my radio with a 5 hour battery.
The thrill is always to see if you can get a new battery before you get banged or redlined, or if the inspector can sneek around and follow you for some gradeschool BS infraction (35 min. lunch), 20 min. personal.
Plus my boss always tells me, if you don't like it. quit. He sure knows how to boost morale while he watches TV in his office, while the desk crew are afraid to tell him what's going on (the radio), or ask why he has to see his girlfriend every night for 3 hours.
Yeah. J-Fed, we got the best bosses Money can Buy!
Morale Problem, Nah!
Demoting a slew of bosses will not bring morale up. Going to visit a few coppers and talking about all the changes you will make does not either.
Giving us a descent raise, giving us the option of the extended tour, making mid level bosses lives less stressful so they can stop stressing us out, giving us equipment that actually works, and considering the fact that when we cannot get time off for family events, to take our kids places, go pick up report cards etc., that fact bothers our kids too. So when you see a coppers kid fucking up, think back to this job, how they treat us, how little we are allowed to conrol our own lives, how miserable the things are we see everyday and then we go home, look at our wives and kids and when they say, how was your day, you say I saw 3 people shot, 1 raped, 1 child abused, a drunken W/C bitch at us and I policed the most depressing area in the city. How was yours?
By the way honey, since gas prices are so high and we can't afford to live in a descent neighborhood and I got 1.5% raise, we will have to take the kids out of private school, sell one of the cars and if I get a third part time job, we can keep the house! Thanks Mayor for putting the money where we really needed it!
CPD, why don't you bitch about that fact!
"It started in 1986 with mass hiring of 200 per month. Kids had to partner up with kids. 10 years later hillard starting making these kids commanders, and clien only made it worse. I always said that was the beginning of the depts downfall."
BETTER GET YOUR YEARS STRAIGHT BONESTROKE. THE MASS HIRING DIDNT COME TO BE UNTIL 1991 WHEN RITCHIE MADE A CAMPAIGN PROMISE TO PUT 500 POs ON THE STREET. HILLARD DIDNT BECOME SUPE UNITL 1998. TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE OVEN & GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT
When Stanley was the Commander of 021 she refused to attend community meetings!
The University finally requested Cline to remove her and he did.
She only cares about the threads she wears!
morale is high, we wanted changes and the Supt did it get rid of the
old and bring in the new. We compalined about bosses now we got new ones, lets get rid of the old bossess overweight Lt;s , Sgt etc those are in the districts messing with the troops, they are jelous of the young and throw their weight around , they should go and retire, they are inspectors, watch commanders, Caps Lt's terrorizing the troops fat old man that should retire. These guys are not good for the district morale. watch Lt's that will never be nothing and push their weight on the new kids also a few Captains, thinking they will be Commanders. Daley retire before you make a fool of yourself and dude get off your knees you ae pathetic. embarrassed
Moral is down lower than whale sperm!!
J fed is all over the news wearing "our" uniform. So much for parades and funerals. This guy is such a goof...he probably sleeps and jerks off in "our" uniform!!
This department is a fucking joke!!
I'll take my $90K per year and continue to do nothing!!!
Stanley's qualifications:
Stroger's neice
Babysitter for Hillard's children
She should be gone, soon.
Nobody cared about proper police training, they only cared about schmoozing to get promoted.
3/08/2008 11:12:00 PM
Training new recruits is crucial for the future of this department. Yet, the FTO program is in shambles. No leader and bosses who treat FTO's very poorly. In other departments, a FTO is treated with respect. Here, very poorly. Bring in new leadership for FTo's and offer support in districts for FTO's. As a FTO, more training for us would be nice.
our new ceo made comment about its stupid paying extra for passing power test or paying a student to get an a. he has no problem taking 300 grand plus. classic new buisness model thats destroying our country. bring in new ceo fire abunch of people, make those still there live in constant fear. do more with less. this looks good on paper for a couple years than those left behind just start to break down. eron, worldcom welcome to shitcago.
"It started in 1986 with mass hiring of 200 per month. Kids had to partner up with kids. 10 years later hillard starting making these kids commanders, and clien only made it worse. I always said that was the beginning of the depts downfall."
BETTER GET YOUR YEARS STRAIGHT BONESTROKE. THE MASS HIRING DIDNT COME TO BE UNTIL 1991 WHEN RITCHIE MADE A CAMPAIGN PROMISE TO PUT 500 POs ON THE STREET. HILLARD DIDNT BECOME SUPE UNITL 1998. TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE OVEN & GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT
3/09/2008 06:51:00 AM
I believe the 1st poster is right and YOU are the "bonestroke". I came on in 1986, and there was a new class starting every month, with usually 6 rooms of about 30 P.O.'s each. This continued into 1987. Before you talk shit, do some research!
Morale used to be great. no one wanted to leave, we loved the job. Now it blows. Look at the Capts and Lts. they are a MAIN reason for morale being good or bad. If you have a good captain or Lt that could make or break a watch. Look at 025 days. It was a great watch, now Fagiano single-handedly destroyed it. It shows you that if the captain is a loser with no self respect, he will utilize the only power he has in life to make work miserable.
Anyone above the rank of commander eally has no effect on the rank and file unless they start fucking with your unit bosses, then it trickles down. Kinda like reaganomics for morale.
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Fagiano fucked up midnights there also. He's just a total prick. Hurry up and retire dickhead. You aren't liked in 25. By anyone.
Morale. Oh ya thanks to the 12th District female Lt. who asisted in the incident in Area Four. You command alot of respect. I am not that concerned that you were merrit Sgt. and merriut Lt., but let the Detectives handle the investigation, get out of the way and take off that fu$$$$ing vest when you are the area for over five hours. Have fun at your promotio pary at "Jillys"
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
J-fed was at 008 roll call last week and 1 po went at him good with real good questions for like 10 min.,the po just kept at it,said morale is low for alot of reasons but hit on manpower,no pool cars,in service training sucks,the 6th days has to go,10hr day is better than a 12hr day,asked j-fed why aren't we trained better?Even went at Brust,his IAD/Training guy to,Brust looked liked he didn't even want to be there,but the po ended with putting j-fed on the spot,asked him to do a ride along on a weekend,j-fed said he just might do that,we will see
"It started in 1986 with mass hiring of 200 per month. Kids had to partner up with kids. 10 years later hillard starting making these kids commanders, and clien only made it worse. I always said that was the beginning of the depts downfall."
BETTER GET YOUR YEARS STRAIGHT BONESTROKE. THE MASS HIRING DIDNT COME TO BE UNTIL 1991 WHEN RITCHIE MADE A CAMPAIGN PROMISE TO PUT 500 POs ON THE STREET. HILLARD DIDNT BECOME SUPE UNITL 1998. TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE OVEN & GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT
3/09/2008 06:51:00 AM
See, now this is what I'm talking about. What makes you so upset that you must respond with the all caps uncivil defaming retort?
I said the down fall started in 1986 with the mass hiring of 200 each month. Meaning some of us noticed the change beginning back then.
My hillard comment, I meant to say 10 years or so later, but I didn't. So what?
Take a valium, sir.
Been on the job for 17 years and have seen many changes. The morale on this job is at an all time low. I have marched in St Jude parade every year except one due to death in family. I will always respect this day since I knew and worked with a few of the officers who have died in the line of duty. This year however my plan is to visit the memorial with my family on the day before and pay my respects. I REFUSE to march or salute this new boss. I am a working stiff who is not out of shape and used to love this job. After seeing the front page of the Sun Times, it pretty much made it a no brainer to boycott the march.
Please consider the same and visit the memorial some other time to pay your respects and send a message of no confidence to Jody.
14th district P.O. female asked for assistance the other nite at "Green Dolphin" gangbanger incident. Great response. there's you morale. Keep backing eachother up!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S. some of the officers were a little chubby.
Give them a break.the Feds were never police officers, now they get to dress up like one and fulfill that long lost desire to be like ponch and john.
3/09/2008 06:51:00 AM
Uh hum.....who's head is in their ass?
Listen KID...first class from the '85 test hired in June '86, followed by July '86, August '86, September '86, October '86, November '86, December '86, Feburary '87, and March'87. Hundreds hired at a time and it started up again in December '87 and didn't end til December '88.
If you don't know what you're talking about, just shut the fuck up.
Love being a CHICAGO POLICEMAN. HATE THIS police department. Exactly...
And Where are the 10-hr days?!?!?
Stanley (Stroger) has to be in the Top Ten of Police Boss Morons Hall of Fame.
Anonymous said...
006 = LOW MORALE!
3/09/2008 01:13:00 AM
006= two year wonders and dogs. too dumb to realize how to use a par form. Dumb asses shut the fuck up.
3 people on the medical and 4 on "IOD"
and nobody checks on 'em? While I still have to show up and handle calls, ETC. We all know these are not all legit. What say yoU, Capt.? Is morale up?
1st watch-017
Mass hirings DID start in 1986. The academy was in full capacity and they were putting recruits through like a bad case of diarrhea. Background investigations were not very thorough and there were more than a few bad apples that were hired, then fired, or indicted and went to jail. I think "Pacman" and his crew were part of the 86 mass hirings.
Anonymous Bella's Jock Strap! said...
To the DICK-Head who keeps crying about the Contract, Shut the Fuck Up!!!! We have a contract in full force. The only thing missing is raises. Be careful what you wish for, the new contract may take some real nice protections we have away. If you need the money work special. So kiss my ass you Fuckin cry baby Loser!!!!!
3/08/2008 09:53:00 PM
fu brotha .....i want a new contract as well! And why should i work special.....i want my raise now!
Anonymous said...
Folks, let's not forget that some of that footage from the dash-cams just might show up on Youtube or the 24/7 news shows, and maybe the clueless public will get a chance to see some of the drunks, shitheads and other dirtbags who piss on us every day. Maybe...maybe there's a tiny little bit of a silver lining out there...
3/08/2008 02:17:00 PM
I guess sex with my FTO is out of the question.
"Take a valium, sir.
3/09/2008 01:39:00 PM"
And make sure you've got a valid prescription written by a real MD to your name.
We wouldn't want to see you on the nightly news.
I'm going to start wearing dresses to work so I can get a psych discharge like Klinger on MASH.
3/08/2008 05:45:00 PM
Keep it up, You'll get bounced out of here real quick! but you need to remember, J Edgar Hoover liked prancing around in a dress! FBI will hire you with a quckness!
Anonymous said...
3/09/2008 06:51:00 AM
Uh hum.....who's head is in their ass?
Listen KID...first class from the '85 test hired in June '86, followed by July '86, August '86, September '86, October '86, November '86, December '86, Feburary '87, and March'87. Hundreds hired at a time and it started up again in December '87 and didn't end til December '88.
If you don't know what you're talking about, just shut the fuck up.
3/09/2008 02:20:00 PM
I was in 86 class academy was full, and to think it was all Harold washintons doing as mayor! We now have dumb daley who sends complete recruiting class home! Guess Harold was smarter than daley could ever dream of! I miss harold yes he had his quirks but he hired many of us and for that I am greatful! God speed harold and i am a caucasion male!
3/09/2008 01:41:00 PM
I will be in that march always! Does not matter if I am working or not! The boss whatever! daley the asshole never shows up, becuase simply he disrespects every working officer and hell his detail guys think he is nothing but a jagoff pompous ass same as burkes huge deatil but they stay for the money D-3+ and overtime!
Do NOT start the crap again about NOT attending the St. Jude March. We are there for our fallen officers NOT for the bosses. When you go past the reviewing stand, turn your heads AWAY from them and make it clear to them that they are not liked!
Stay safe..back each other up!
BETTER GET YOUR YEARS STRAIGHT BONESTROKE. THE MASS HIRING DIDNT COME TO BE UNTIL 1991 WHEN RITCHIE MADE A CAMPAIGN PROMISE TO PUT 500 POs ON THE STREET. HILLARD DIDNT BECOME SUPE UNITL 1998. TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE OVEN & GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT
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You were probably in grammar school in 86 but for almost a year they were hiring 230 a month. I know - I was one of them
Hillards kids are in their 20's and maybe even 30's by now lunkhead. I love cops. When we don't know something, we'll just make up some shit.
Not only did those classes start in 86 there were two shifts in December and January that I'm aware of. Since I know Stanley couldn't possibly be Hillards babysitter (his kids are adults) how much of her being Strogers neice do you think I'm gonna be dumb enough to belive? Speaking as someone with a matter of days left on the job, If I was changing my staff, I wouldn't have even let them walk back to their desks without one of MY people supervising their every move. Dirty tricks have occured in the past by departing personnel. The Chicago Board of Trade has had off-duty CPD for years, that are summoned before an employee gets the axe. They accompany him to retrieve personal property, give him/her final pay, court order to stay ???? feet from bldg, escort to transportation be it car, train, etc all the way to there means of transport away from downtown. Then they are assigned to that office til the the office manager feels comfortable. Some offices have permanent CPDs.
Please consider the same and visit the memorial some other time to pay your respects and send a message of no confidence to Jody.
By all means visit the memorial, however do not give anymore money to the memorial fund, this fund as been a cash cow for Phil Cline and company. He refuses to account for millions of dollars. Cline's people have been on the phone soliciting funds only to pay himself and others big bucks. All this is being done on the backs of dead police officers. This fund need to be investigated. Shame on you Phil Cline.
3 people on the medical and 4 on "IOD"
and nobody checks on 'em? While I still have to show up and handle calls, ETC. We all know these are not all legit. What say yoU, Capt.? Is morale up?
1st watch-017
You Cry baby punk! 17th dist on midnights is a piece of cake. You Jello piece of garbage, if your scared suck ass or leave.
"DISAPPOINTED IN THE MANNER demotions are being handled" What police agency are you from? J-Fed is letting people go the same way all incoming Supts. let people go. Quick and painless. He doesn't need to give a reason. That's the way the game is played. Jimmy Carroll has always ass-kissed the big shots so it's no surprise he glad handed everyone on the way out. That line about being sure every one of them had a relationship with someone who's star was in the honored Star Case was cheap shot. Sympathy anyone?
Harold Washington not only hired almost all the cops currently on the job, he put curbs in Mt. Greenwood. Oh yes he did!
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