Still a Bad Idea
- One driver saw the pedestrian in the crosswalk but hadn't heard about the "new" law requiring him to stop. Another knew about the law but didn't see the pedestrian.
Motorists offered all kinds of explanations after being pulled over recently by Chicago police for driving past, around -- and a few times nearly through -- an undercover officer posing as a pedestrian trying to make her way across a busy street.
- Two hours after Delgado started, 78 cars, trucks, vans and cabs had been pulled over for failing to yield. That number easily could have been doubled, but police stopped only motorists who kept driving after Delgado had made it four or five feet into the road.
That's 78 chances for her to get squashed like a bug. In two hours. It almost seems like a suicide mission. Wouldn't a few Public Service Announcements make some difference? Oh wait, there's no potential for revenue generation in a PSA. Sorry, back to bucking the odds in a stacked deck.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
50 Comments:
They should put he on a segway, and see how that goes.
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Whats the law? Whats the deal? Are we to let peds walk accross the street at any crosswalk or for the cross walk at an intersection when they have the WALK signal. Please let me know. I want to do right. I don't think you guy's and gal's should be putting yourself in danger like that just to bring a point home and give our mayor more money. You have it bad enough. I know you hardly hear it enough, but THANK YOU for everything you do out there. I sure couldn't do it.
Is the pedestrian crossing with or against the light?
Doesn't the pedestrian bear some responsibility?
I don't run into traffic. Survival of the fittest, run into traffic , adios, you must be an idiot and only a drain on society.
Who in God's name is doing this job? Someone with a death wish?
Great way to honor the sacrifice made by P.O. Francis by putting yourself in harms way for mcc infractions and city revenue. To the "undercover" who had to have volunteered for the job, fuck you.
Unless the driver is actually trying to run over the officer, the officer is not in danger. If you saw the operation you wouldn't be worried. It's no more dangerous than directing traffic downtown (probably even less so). And nothing gets the word out like some big fines. Do a PSA with the big fines and you may have a deterance.
great job to j. andruzzi and his idiot bike patrol officers. instead of patrolling the lake front or 016 or 008 or 022 , lets ignorantly run out into traffic and then ticket the driver. fuck you!!!
Delgado is bucking for a disability payment and a wheel chair!
How many dumb chances do you want to take?
Then the dept. wants us to feel sorry for her and throw her a benefit after she gets her dumb ass run over!
Pedestrians should only cross at the light, that's how it is done in California, If Chicago wants to follow laws of the fruits and nuts!
To make it really challenging they should try this at 63rd and Cottage.
What a goof! But then again it is time + 1/2 hello flop make it citywide for doing nothing! the city wants money so daley can take more!
Most drivers in the city don't have a D.L. and nowadays the test is so watered down anyone can pass. They took out parallel parking because it was too hard and not really used outside of cities. Look at those who make a left turn across a double yellow line, you can't do it. But hey, half the cops probably don't know that.
All that revenue will be lost when she gets smoked on duty and the city has to pay for broken bones...
It's kind of like the *running of the bulls* in Spain. I always root for the bulls. If they're stupid enough to run out there, they get what they deserve.
Same thing with peds. If they cross at a light with the signal, OK. If not, OLE'!!!!!
My parents always taught me not to walk in the street when cars are coming.
As a pedestrian, I have to say that drivers out there just don't care. Pedestrians in a crosswalk aren't people, they're obstacles to the driver's (perceived) timeliness. The only way to change people's behavior whether to watch for pedestrians or to actually stop for stop signs, or anything, is to ticket the bad drivers, multiple times if need be. A PSA won't do anything at all.
That being said, I think the idea that a car should stop if a pedestrian has one foot off the curb is also a bit ridiculous, and I hope the officers are taking care and being safe.
Send her out with a "few" in her next time; less pain just in case..
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/145243/1613279
So let me see cause I'm not familiar with this "Law." Anyone can walk out into the street and they must be yielded to? Is that the new thing? So basically because its a MCC now, the next drunk who runs into traffic and gets squished like a bug gives his family the ability to sue hard working citizens who are automatically in the wrong because they failed to yield? Is "jay-walking" no longer on the books? How about emergency vehicles? Should we be yielding to whoever feels its their time to cross the street regardless of the millions of dollars worth of traffic control devices? Someone please please pretty please clarify.
I hear this it da mayors idea and he want to raise money for the olympics one mcc violation at a time.
Waste of manpower! Ride your bikes down to a district in area 2 and gets some guns off the street!
Unless they've changed the law, the idiot who walks out into on-going traffic is the one to get the ticket. The law doesn't give pedestrians carte blance to make cars slam on the brakes. The law was to protect those already walking in the cross walk to continue safely across.
someone needs to grab a camera and video tape it.
Doesn't this just encourage the savages to continue walking into the path of traffic. They avoid the crosswalks like they avoid job interviews.
instead of patrolling the lake front or 016 or 008 or 022.
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from what i've heard,this an overtime job. not a tour of duty. the money comes from the feds, you know use it or lose it funding. the bike unit does patrol the lakefront from fullerton to 22nd st. also 008 and 016 have their own bike teams to patrol the districts. get your facts straight before spout off like a fool.
I have a question; who writes tickets for being in a crosswalk on a red light. Is that parking enforcement, traffic management, or CPD?
Honest question.
Hey Officers while your at could start going after those responsable moms who like to jaywalk with their little angels in tow.
Keep your chin up Officers not all of us civilians are cop haters.
I was hit by a taxi will crossing an intersection with a clear "walk" signal and on a green light. He did a left-hand turn into the back of my right knee, then swore up and down that 1) I wasn't there when he entered the intersection; 2) he never saw me; 3) he didn't hit me; and 4) I must have walked into the side of his cab and struck it with my hand. Yup. That's how I ended up bleeding and on the ground.
If people don't follow traffic laws at intersections with signal lights, they surely aren't going to follow them anywhere else!
Pedestrian walkway is different from a pedestrian crosswalk. The walkway is the extra wide crosswalk with white stripes inside the borders. Vehicles HAVE TO yield the right of way to pedestrians.
Pesdestrian crosswalks are at every corner. Vehicles HAVE TO yield the right of way to pedestrians if the pedestrians have the OKAY TO CROSS electronic go ahead on the pole on the corner.
If the corner isn't equipped with the walk or don't walk electronic sign then the vehicles have the right away if no stop sign is present.
First of all if it's a crosswalk not a walkway and their is no electronic crossing sign and their is no stop sign then what person in their right mind would just walk out into moving traffic. The driver doesn't know what your intention is either. He or she doesn't know if you are just hanging out on the corner, standing their waiting for somebody or if you're waiting to cross. Common sense would dictate that you wait until the coast is clear before crossing.
Of course this only applies to any other community other than all the ghetto districts here in the city. There is no common sense in gangsta land, rules and regulations don't apply and the law is always ignored. Hope that clears it up.
Great idea!!! Let's take all the responsibility away from the pedestrians and lay all the blame on the driver. Why look before crossing the street when the city says it'll be the drivers fault regardless. After all, it is easier to stop a 5000 pound car going 20-30mph then to just stop walking right? NEW LAW: cross outside of a crosswalk or against a don't walk signal and you are free game for any driver that may want to run your stupid ass over and said driver shall be immune from any future liability(civil and criminal). Instead the driver shall be rewarded for ridding society of another idiot. Free license plate renewal for any motorist that bags an alderman or county councilman. Free property tax for the year for bagging the midget.
Did the Bike Patrol Officers have to go to Traffic Safety School after crashing their bicycles into each other? What is this, the Leave it to Beaver Police now?????????
another bullshit project! What a way to pimp the middle class great job again richie! how about a new game we use your illegals and if we hit one we win a prize right mayor freido illegal is illegal right?
did they at least write tickets this time???
What I like to call a dirt mission.
Maybe they can put her in one of those bubble wrap suits.
i would not stop unless thr is a sign that say's peddestrian's have the right of way...
" Free property tax for the year for bagging the midget.
7/15/2008 12:48:00 PM"
Make that for life and you might get a few takers.
"If people don't follow traffic laws at intersections with signal lights, they surely aren't going to follow them anywhere else!
7/15/2008 12:13:00 PM"
Some cabbies are not people, at least not people in the sense of the word we've been taught.
Is the pedestrian crossing with or against the light?
Doesn't the pedestrian bear some responsibility?
I don't run into traffic. Survival of the fittest, run into traffic , adios, you must be an idiot and only a drain on society.
7/15/2008 12:40:00 AM
You can tell the asswipes ( aunt Bea ) ???? who thought of this are not from chicaga..granted many drivers in europe will stop for pedestrians, but after being in over 100 cities in the last 10 years I can count on my fingers the drivers from other cities that do stop . Maybe aunt bea should get her ass out to see how dangerous this pratice really is
from what i've heard,this an overtime job. not a tour of duty. the money comes from the feds, you know use it or lose it funding. the bike unit does patrol the lakefront from fullerton to 22nd st. also 008 and 016 have their own bike teams to patrol the districts. get your facts straight before spout off like a fool.
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If this is federal money, why not use it for Tara overtime. It helped a little with the manpower shortage.
anonymous said...
Delgado is bucking for a disability payment and a wheel chair!
How many dumb chances do you want to take?
Then the dept. wants us to feel sorry for her and throw her a benefit after she gets her dumb ass run over!
7/15/2008 06:32:00 AM
Nice girl, but not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Anonymous said...
instead of patrolling the lake front or 016 or 008 or 022.
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from what i've heard,this an overtime job. not a tour of duty. the money comes from the feds, you know use it or lose it funding. the bike unit does patrol the lakefront from fullerton to 22nd st. also 008 and 016 have their own bike teams to patrol the districts. get your facts straight before spout off like a fool.
7/15/2008 11:11:00 AM
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like a fool? look at her and john p. just walking into traffic. sure 008 has a 'bike unit', but theyre never on bikes
JUST ANOTHER GIMMICK FU#XING WITH DA WORKING MAN!
I CAN GUESS THESE OFFICER R NOT CROSSING AT 63 AND COTTAGE OR LAKE AND PULASKI.
LETS PISS OFF NO DRIVING WORKING PEOPLE SO THEY CAN HATE DA POLICE MORE.
HOW BIG IS THIS TEAM OF GO GETTER DOING THIS JOB!
MAY BE THEY SHOULD BE LOCKING UP BANGERS HELL THEY MAY AS WELL B LICKING STAMPS AT HEADQUARTERS!
ANOVS A SIMPLE TRICK TO GENERATE CASH $$$$ FOR DALEY.
Streets were actually invented for transport vehicles. Now the vehicle has to kowtow to clueless pedestrians and arrogant bicyclists.
AND we're supposed to read their minds and somehow know, and be responsible for, the insane moves they make.
Im an undercover sidewalk officer instructor.The city is paying me $$$.
MORE WAISTED MONEY. just like the firework stings and the seat belt missions and the wolf pack missions. lets do a crosswalk crackdown. yeah, that will fix the crime problem in the city. what a bunch of dumbasses that make these decisions. I'm so so embaressed in being a Chicago Police Officer these days.
I say you put jaywalking and not yielding to pedestrians on the list of things that the helicopter unit should handle...the list already includes:
Refueling
Making Loud Noise
Shining spotlight
Repeating of step one
SRT
Just some info:
a) the money came from a private grant for this study, the city was paid to pay the officers who participated. (for those still using crayons- NO wasted tax or fed money that could be used for tara).
b) the area was a pedestrian walkway (the big white lines which also had yeild to pedestrian signs) not a corner with lights.
c) this was no more dangerous than directing traffic at a sporting event with thousands of drunks driving home. (something the BS FlOP is fighting to get back because so many POs cried when we lost those details).
d) there is a huge difference between jaywalking and crossing at a designated spot for crossing, state law has given pedestrians the right of way at these crossings for some time.
Don't bitch at people on feet or bike for wanting to feel safe crossing the street. Some of the walkways are across six lanes of traffic; say eastbound traffic is clear so I begin my crossing, westbound traffic is now solid and I am now stuck in the middle of traffic as cars pass me in both directions. The law just makes it possible for someone to finish crossing by making both directions stop till the person/people are out of traffic.
My theory is this is all tied to the olympics. Its gonna take the people in this city 8+ years to finally catch on to pedestrian rights. Start teaching now and save the embarasment to the city of multiple people from other countries getting run down in 2016.
In all likelihood the officer will be run down by an unmarked car, you're the ones that hit pedestrians and bikers.
Anonymous said...
i would not stop unless thr is a sign that say's peddestrian's have the right of way...
7/15/2008 05:27:00 PM
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Based on your spelling and grammar, a sign being there would not matter.
Singed,
CPS honor student!!!!!
http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~dan/Crosswalks/
The right of way at crosswalks, extracted from the Illinois Vehicle Code, Rules of the Road, 625 ILCS 5/11-1002
Sec. 11-1002.
Pedestrians' right-of-way at crosswalks.
(a) When traffic control signals are not in place or not in operation the driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way, slowing down or stopping if need be to so yield, to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within a crosswalk when the pedestrian is upon the half of the roadway upon which the vehicle is traveling, or when the pedestrian is approaching so closely from the opposite half of the roadway as to be in danger.
(b) No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a moving vehicle which is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.
do I have to yield for a pedestrians gunfire??
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