Commissary?
Someone noted a contract proposal to replace uniform allowances with a commissary system similar to the Fire Department.
In the words of someone far old and wiser than we - "Never give anything back to the City. Ever." Any contract that comes through with anything like this needs to be voted down.
In the words of someone far old and wiser than we - "Never give anything back to the City. Ever." Any contract that comes through with anything like this needs to be voted down.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 1:01 AM
44 Comments:
Quote of the month herd on ZONE #6 today,.........7 or 8th district coopper, during 10 second lapse in radio chaos,,............"WHAT PLANET IS THIS"
P.S.
good job at 69th and Ashland today
between 7 & 8 several shootings
If this passes muster I believe that every sworn member on the CPD looks like shit and needs a full compliment of duty attire. My leather gets torn up, my holster is not up to snuff for Level 3 standards, my pants are worn, my shirts are looking yellow or bleached blue, my hats bill is squished, my rain coat has tears, my vest is over five years old, my cordura is torn, my Eisenhower is too small, my 3/4 length is all fuzzy, my leather looks brown, my clarinos are ripped,etcetra.
I think all of us could use a complete new issue, I just hope that the Quartermaster System is fully budgeted. I would hate to break the bank the first year. I usually try to budget accordingly with my uniform allowance but now I might as well take full advantage of this new great system. We are all going to look like recruits again.
Holy FOP Batman!!!
The first guy that hints of falling for this one, will regret it!!!
Fire dept does use commissary system......but they still get a uniform allowance! Check their contract or ask an idiot fireman.
SCC, get a paper route to supplement your income. It's pretty sad that you need to rely on a few sorry ass bucks to get by. Shake a cup and I'll toss a quarter in it for you.
The only reason police officers would vote down a commissary system over cash for a uniform allowance is that most never spend their uniform allowance on uniforms. Just look at the state of some officer's uniforms and gear for a confirmation.
There are officers out there right now, today, who are still carrying the old timer good for shit holster with a worn out strap or snap that leaves their revolvers hanging dangerously out to the side and available for the taking to any miscreant with a mind to commit murder.
Look around you at roll call and see if this isn't true.
Too many officers would rather risk their lives and their partner's lives than go out and spend some money on the latest security holster and belt. I have witnessed old wagon men go down into the bullpen in receiving at 26th street and wade right into a crowd of pissed off felons who are un-handcuffed with their weapons dangling dangerously out to one side.
I always thought that would be the scene of an officer losing his/her gun and the resulting mayhem.
I know of at least 4 officers who lost their lives directly due to old crappy holsters.
So, yes, I would be in favor of a commissary system if it would force officers to finally get rid of old, worn out and dangerous holsters and leather gear.
Yeah Right!! The Fire Department Commissary is run by a long time friend of Bernie Stone. Items are replaced on a need basis. In other words every time you tear a shirt fighting with the animal YOU have to take your ass ON YOUR TIME to the Commisary to get a new shirt. I know we must do it on our own time now but we have no idea where this so called Commisary will be located. Firefighters who live near O'Hare are forced to go to 24th and Halsted. Will it be the same for us. And who exactly will be given the contract for this new Commissary. You can bet your last dollar it will be someone related to Daley, Burke, Joyce, Degan, etc. etc. etc.
Not the biggest issue facing us but a matter of principle involved here. Clothing allowance increases over the years were given to offset any pension contribution issues for the City plain and simple. It was just another way for the Masters to give the Puppies another bone. FUCK EM. Don't give in to this issue.
Commisary will never happen. How will the Detectives use commisary???? They don't wear uniforms. How does Tact, Gangs, Narcotics, Etc, Etc, use commisary???
I'm sure the city has put this on the table. It won't happen. No need to panic. I'm a worrier by the way and this doesn't scare me.
The fop is giving away whtever to the city! But if they set it up like the fire department every stitch out of place I want a new shirt,pants,shoes etc.. The city would also have to buy us weapons also correct? hey mark don't give this up I know you guys make under the countre deals for jobs with the "family and friends" program but don't sell us out! thanks in advance! "have another drink on me"!!
Some of the CPD Officers really look like crap in the worn out and ill fitting uniforms some of them are wearing. Apparently they aren't spending the uniform allowance on uniforms. Take a little pride in yourself, but then again I blame their Supervisors as they aren't doing anything about it at roll call inspections.
Holy Commissass? Batman!!!
Fuck off!!! Just another way around the first issue program.
Although, I would trade this one to live outside of Chicago.
Anywhere in Illinois, Indiana or Wisconsin.
Anywhere away from City and County politics.
Take heed...remember back in the early '90's when health insurance was free? Then came the contract that FOP urged us to approve because the City only wanted to charge us $2 per pay day for single coverage? "$2 is nothing...."
NOW look at where we are.
PS...before anyone starts bitching about what we pay for healthcare, CTA members GET IT FOR FREE, with nothing coming out of their checks.
If this passes muster I believe that every sworn member on the CPD looks like shit and needs a full compliment of duty attire. My leather gets torn up, my holster is not up to snuff for Level 3 standards, my pants are worn, my shirts are looking yellow or bleached blue, my hats bill is squished, my rain coat has tears, my vest is over five years old, my cordura is torn, my Eisenhower is too small, my 3/4 length is all fuzzy, my leather looks brown, my clarinos are ripped,etcetra.
I think all of us could use a complete new issue, I just hope that the Quartermaster System is fully budgeted. I would hate to break the bank the first year. I usually try to budget accordingly with my uniform allowance but now I might as well take full advantage of this new great system. We are all going to look like recruits again.
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I'm supposed to give up mine because you can't take care of yours?
Buy some new shit every once in a while!
Who does your taxes?!
Det. SLC & SCC YOU ROCK !!
03:38 am IDIOT FIREMAN...Look at my days...Look at my benefits ,heart attack , stroke , cancer all iod. Public loves us because we are not ticketing mothers picking up childern from school or a construction worker driving home to his family. We have a real union and real unity. Dont get me wrong I have never had a problem with you cops I think you guys for the most part are great . But we are not idiots.
"SCC, get a paper route to supplement your income. It's pretty sad that you need to rely on a few sorry ass bucks to get by. Shake a cup and I'll toss a quarter in it for you.
9/06/2008 04:48:00 AM"
Who are you planning on stealing that quarter from, this time?
Not your mamma, again.
This, by the way, was one of Jody's contributions to the city's side of the contract proposals. As well as all the disciplinary revisions, including releasing our photos to the newspapers when we are ACCUSED, not found guilty, of transgressions.
Does the 'think tank' understand they will be the most hated people on this job and will have no place to hide when Jody folds up his tent and goes home?
As to leather gear, most of us don't take care of it at all. Leather must be oiled every so often to prevent it from drying and cracking. An occasional touch up with leather dye keeps it black. Most coppers on this dept. think it's a badge of honor to look like crap. It is not. You just look like crap. My gear is over a quarter century old and still looks good even after having been worn every working day in a blue and white over that time. I've bought new holsters a few times but the Sam Browne and cuff case are older than many of our younger officers. Maintenance is key, in your equipment and in yourself.
Will this commissary sell packaged goods? Perhaps a snack bar? Company Kool-Aid?
I'm all in!
To Anonymous 7:14AM:
You my friend are full of shit. You cannot enterCounty Jail's bullpen while armed. You have to leave your weaopn(s) secured at the front desk arear before they even let you inside.
You my friend must have just gotten home from Cicero for writting this shit at such an early hour.
This is from someone who has been there many times and not from someone who wishes he had been there!
The city would never go commissary because they would have to provide for all those optional uniforms(new jackets,bdu,etc) to be available for all po's. I would make sure I get a new shit as soon as a string breaks free.
I think this is just the city trying to offset the increase in duty availability/fitness cash.
F.T.F.U.S.
Fuck The Fucking Uniform Stores
I don't see a problem with it. Officers for CPD are currently alloted $1800 a year for "uniform
allowance." Yet, if you attended most roll calls in the vast majority of the Districts, you wouldn't be able to tell. Too many people not spending it to update their raggedy shit. I've seen people ordered to replace shoes, pants, shirts that even a homeless man or woman wouldn't put on. We're our own worst enemies on this.
Oh, and need I ask, how many of you have stood next to or partnered up with someone whose holster was being held together by ample amounts of black duct tape?
Tact guys will go to "Home Depot" and Detectives will go to "The Mens Warehouse". Your gonna like the way you look!
Problem solved.
I don't see a problem with it. Officers for CPD are currently alloted $1800 a year for "uniform
allowance." Yet, if you attended most roll calls in the vast majority of the Districts, you wouldn't be able to tell. Too many people not spending it to update their raggedy shit. I've seen people ordered to replace shoes, pants, shirts that even a homeless man or woman wouldn't put on. We're our own worst enemies on this.
**STFU! Spend your uniform allowance any way you see fit and I will do the same. Mind your own fuckin business.
My $1800 annual uniform allowance goes toward booze, broads and gambling. And that's the way I like it.
How many police spouses even know there's a uniform allowance?
And just how long does everyone think those new crisp uniforms will look good for? The uniforms look bad because they are worn by working officers. Officers who put their lives on the line for some citizens who don't even deserve to live. If someone is there to save your sorry a**es do you really care what he looks like? Perhaps if that officer is in perfect uniform and the dept wants it to continue looking new, that officer may think twice before getting it dirty trying to save you sorry a** cheeto and grape pop fans.
Hey 9/06/2008 04:48:00 AM,
Shake the Keesing Bandit's cup and he'll toss one into you
Der Commisar's in town--oh-oh
Northside cops showed me a trick to oiling your leather belt with KY Jelly. It's make it sooooooo shiny.
Who are you planning on stealing that quarter from, this time?
Not your mamma, again.
9/06/2008 11:09:00 AM
Actually I got it from your sister. She did me a favor for $2.00 and felt obligated to give me change.
03:38 I've been keeping track over the last 10 years and I've met a hell of a lot more idiot police officers that firefighter's, and I've done both. I'm just sayin, but you know
As to leather gear, most of us don't take care of it at all. Leather must be oiled every so often to prevent it from drying and cracking. An occasional touch up with leather dye keeps it black. Most coppers on this dept. think it's a badge of honor to look like crap. It is not. You just look like crap. My gear is over a quarter century old and still looks good even after having been worn every working day in a blue and white over that time. I've bought new holsters a few times but the Sam Browne and cuff case are older than many of our younger officers. Maintenance is key, in your equipment and in yourself.
Im real proud of you. Now go get your appearance award and your fuckin shine box.
I'm supposed to give up mine because you can't take care of yours?
Buy some new shit every once in a while!
Who does your taxes?!
9/06/2008 09:39:00 AM
Hey Moron,
Why don't you read intot hat comment just a little bit??? If this system comes into play it will cost the City of Chicago dearly when every sworn member needs a complete new set of uniforms annually. The city will quickly revert back tot he old uniform allowance after we all hit them up for that full set,including leather,etcetra.
03:38 am IDIOT FIREMAN...Look at my days...Look at my benefits ,heart attack , stroke , cancer all iod. Public loves us because we are not ticketing mothers picking up childern from school or a construction worker driving home to his family. We have a real union and real unity. Dont get me wrong I have never had a problem with you cops I think you guys for the most part are great . But we are not idiots.
9/06/2008 11:07:00 AM
"See the fire? Pour water on it. Done"...not exactly rocket science there, is it?
The Keesing Bandit says---
"...a lot more idiot police officers that firefighter's...and I've done both."
Number one--learn how to spell and the proper use of an apostrophe.
I have no doubt that you have DONE both.
Now, kees me you fool!!!
The Keesing Bandit says---
I love a good cup shaking contest.
Now, kees me you fool!!!
"Actually I got it from your sister. She did me a favor for $2.00 and felt obligated to give me change.
9/06/2008 10:23:00 PM"
So you're the little fellow that she told me paid her to piss on him.
Actually I got it from your sister. She did me a favor for $2.00 and felt obligated to give me change.
9/06/2008 10:23:00 PM
Because it was so small she didn't have to do that much work.
idiot fireman hopes the police don't get a commissary. The police will only fuck the system up with wanting too much for free. Thus ending the commissary for the idiot fireman.
think you guys for the most part are great . But we are not idiots.
9/06/2008 11:07:00 AM
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,We know you arn't someone is just jealous because you guys do have a better job than we do, and the mayor love you
TRY GETTING A UNIFORM IN THE CORRECT SIZE OR GOOD SERVICE UNDER THE COMMISSARY. DOESN'T HAPPEN. SORRY WERE OUT COME BACK NEXT WEEK. PRICE OF GAS AND YOUR TIME. HHHMMM. BUEHLER
Rocket Science??? See the dead banger, put up the yellow tape and then stand there with your thumb in your vest....and find the nearest dunkin donuts....outta shape crybabies...
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