Latest PAX 501
GPS is here, but guess what they're calling it?
- AUTOMATIC VEHICLE LOCATION SYSTEM
Someone has posted the entire text of the PAX 501 and it's a beautiful piece of Orwellian "NewSpeak." It truly is. The entire thing is passed off as "Officer Safety." In fact, they use the word "safety" four times in the first three paragraphs.
And it will protect you, too!
And it will protect you, too!
- The AVL system can also protect you against false accusations. If the device records your location at a specific time different than where the accuser claims, the AVL information will be crucial in challenging the accusation. The AVL technology will back you up.
Well thank goodness this technology will "back us up" - because everyone knows that the Department won't. This fucked up organization won't even go after proven perjurers who sign sworn affidavits against police officers and we're expected to believe that they're going to pull GPS records to unfound CR numbers? Give us a fucking break.
SCC PREDICTION - This system is used to fuck over a copper before it's ever used to clear one. Take that one to Vegas and see what odds you'll get on it.
GPS was inevitable boys and girls. Everyone uses it. Shipping companies, railroads, snowplows, garbage trucks, fire apparatus. You name it, it's tracked. We knew it was coming when SOS got entangled it the ongoing scandals. But we don't buy for a single minute the "safety" argument and the "false accusation" horseshit they're trying to spoon feed us.
We'd respect them more if they'd just come out and say what it's all really about.
SCC PREDICTION - This system is used to fuck over a copper before it's ever used to clear one. Take that one to Vegas and see what odds you'll get on it.
GPS was inevitable boys and girls. Everyone uses it. Shipping companies, railroads, snowplows, garbage trucks, fire apparatus. You name it, it's tracked. We knew it was coming when SOS got entangled it the ongoing scandals. But we don't buy for a single minute the "safety" argument and the "false accusation" horseshit they're trying to spoon feed us.
We'd respect them more if they'd just come out and say what it's all really about.
Labels: department issues, we got nothing
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
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SCC PREDICTION - This system is used to fuck over a copper before it's ever used to clear one. Take that one to Vegas and see what odds you'll get on it.
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But if you do what you are supposed to be doing, there's nothing to worry about. Right?
I have no problem with this. J-Fed, open your mouth, my DNA is boiling over for you!
GPS HELP YOU, YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME. TAKE IT FROM ME ALL IT DOES IS LET THE MAN KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU AT ALL TIMES. YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT SITTING IN THE HOLE THE BOSSES WILL KNOW YOUR EXACT LOACATION, HOW LONG YOUR IGNITION WAS OFF, AND EVERY OTHER DETAIL YOU COULD FIGURE.
AND IF YOU THINK THE CITY WONT MAKE A BIG DEAL OF THIS IF YOU SCREW UP YOUR WRONG. BACK IN SOS WE COULDNT TAKE CERTAIN ROUTES TO DISTRICTS BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE DRIVING IN SUMMIT. GOOD LUCK, THE JOB IS OVER. PS.. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK NO MOVERS AND NO PARKERS.
GPS will never be used to clear us of a false allegation. The dept & ops wont even use the A & A's as proof a copper wasnt on duty.
They should put GPS tracking on the rat secretary on 1st 025 who leaves at 3am.
Let's see...no more vehicle pursuits or backing someone up in one...why? Because your speed and location will now be verified...
Man with a gun call....10 tact guys show up...complainant states he was roughed up by the "slick boys." Well guess what if you were there, your gps will confirm it! So why go?
I barely get back up as it is in the dogass district I work....now I will never get it!
Detectives and tact your fucked. It won't affect the beat car as much...especially mine...zero hours per mile for 7 hours..sitting in my whole with my camera video taping a brick wall.
FTW/FTC/FTF
To quote an old fairy tale "The sky is falling, the sky is falling". GPS and DNA? J-Fed can KMA.
The GPS systems used in the cars that SOS had can tell where the car is at, what route the car took to get there, how fast it went, and how long the car was sitting there. It can tell how long the car has been with the ignition off, running, if the lights/siren has been activated.
The info can be pulled up on the departments intra-net. Yep, that’s right, on our computers. The new PDT’s have the capability, that means any supervisor, including our beloved inspectors, can tell the what, when, where, and how fast of the cars! (Does this mean we will have no use for Inspectors anymore? Has their job just been lost due to technology? If so, I’d be willing to take BIG BIRD over this bullshit any day! After all, he cant be every where at once, he does take days off, unlike GPS!)
Go ahead, fuck with the GPS unit in the car. I’ll bet you get hit with a “Criminal Damage” case! No, putting tin-foil over the antenna won’t work.
Judas-Fed just shit all over this job, took the fun right out of it! But what do you expect from a punk-ass, never has been, aint never gonna be the real Police, “special” agent from the FBI?
(P.S. The bike unit is looking REAL nice, right about now!)
no power source = no signal
Do the math.
Was that Rottner guy really an inspector? LORD HELP US!
In the next election, there will be a vote for constitutional amendments to the IL constitution...VOTE NO!!!
ALL unions should be campaigning for all citizens to vote NO...if this amendment passes, you will see major changes to our pensions/health benefits, eliminating them completely.
VOTE NO TO IL CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS...PASS IT ON!
How much does it cost to process DNA? But the city is broke right?
New GPS to screw over coppers. But the city is broke right?
New in car cameras to "protect the officer from false allegations" (not one person has been charged). But the city is broke right?
Nation wide, rape kits are not processed due to the cost (about $1000 each). They are prioritized by the amount of prosecuteable evidence. If there isnt a suspect, the kits may be shelved. Not too long ago a privat non-profit organization had to raise money (and still is i think) to get rape kits processed before the statute of limitations expired on them because the city could not afford to do them. This led to many arrests and convictions of rapists who would otherwise have continued to roam free if not for money from the private sector. But they have money for this? What is the purpose of this? I can't think of one benefit of them having my DNA on file. The last thing I want to do after I retire is have to come back to this city and explain why my DNA is at a crime scene on a piece of gum I spit out in an alley years before the crime even occurred.
THE BOSSES NEED GPS! WHAT ABOUT FORMER COMMANDER OF SOS AND MR ADS NOW M.T. DOES NOT HAVE GPS. IT WOULD BE A WASTE OF MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT MOVE. HONESTLY TAKING YOUR FAMILY FOR RIDE OR DRIVING THEM TO SCHOOL AND GETTING GROCERIES. THE CITY HAS NO MONEY FOR OFFICERS BUT FOR THE BRASS OF COURSE. NO GAS, INSURANCE, MILEAGE, PURCHASING A VEHICLE AND ALSO MAKING 6 FIGURES NICE.
Wow, i can't believe what this dep't has come to. In just the past 5 years it has turned upside down. I'm sure this wasn't their intended goal, but man, i don't think there's going to be any working police left out there. Well, there's always a few nuts on each watch, so they'll keep working (until they get sued) but after that NOBODY.
Seriously though, have we hit rock bottom yet? I didn't think it could get any worse than about a year ago and here i stand bewildered that they are managing to disgruntle each and every one of us.
I'll admit, i use to be a worker. One arrest a day, then relax and enjoy the rest of the tour.
Now: zero arrests in 4 months, having no fun, and afraid to do anything. Terrible way to go to work.
Is everyone pretty much in the same boat?
oh shit I can't sit in the hole all night.
Hi People, It's C.C. 025 1st
I was very mad today people. I was putting together my seating for my wedding and noticed no one wants to come. I had to go upstairs at the desk to retrieve my coffee and almost had to do a report! (OMG). I was told I was to never work on the street by Capt. B, when he was here. He does not want me to get hurt because he said I am the best worker on his watch. And I must be since all the other bosses kept me inside.
When I almost had to write a report I told them to go back to where it happened and call 911 so the boyz on the beat car can handle it. Whew, it was close!
One of the boyz made a nasty comment, and I wanted to say.. no-no, I collect radios and sit on the W/C's file cabinet and swing my legs and get paid over $60K to fuck with people.
I then called my Daddy white shirt crying. He came to were I was at. Thank God he came. The boyz on the watch can be so mean sometimes.
When I checked off, always around 3 am, the mean boys are still out there humping away in the thirty sector with the PPOs I put with them HA!
Missy lets be team players and screw over every male PO we can!
CC-25th. district
p.s. I may make sgt one day. And it will be sgt. of the radios cuz the street is scary.
Question to the old timers:
Has there ever been a lower point in CPD history?
A more hated Superintedent?
Can't believe i came on 7 years ago to a job that everyone loved and raved about and had so much fun at, and in these short years it has turned so south.
Just so sad :(
I only wish that GPS thing-a-ma-bob could tell me where I was at.
Bring all those ppo's to 025.I'll show them the ropes and how to make the robbery team
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Cannot be as good as the 12th Dist Robbery Team
FUCK THAT!
Let's bash Mealer some more! Yay!
If someone fucks up when they know they have a car with gps, they deserve it; be where you are suppose to be. Use your head these days....
And where would they get the amount of manpower they would need to sit and analyze all of the gps reports with all of the unit's humpers day after day?
off topic: Can anyone tell me what "Detached Services" does?
Go in your station and look up at the pictures on the wall at or near the desk. These are the dumbest non-policing mother fuckers you will ever lay eyes on.
They are fuming about activity and "de-policing" yet they are installing GPS and "always on" cameras in every squad car? And you thought THIS was a slow down???? Give me an event number for eight hours of nothin' squad.
I thought Aunt Bea with all her years of hard police service (5 honorables)would use better judgement.
And THEY want everyone to bust their asses to make up for the lack of manpower.
Typical short sighted nonsense. I am glad I am gone.
SCC- keep up the good work
old john
OT:
City replaces sewer inspection firm linked to mayor's family
Did they scrap the plan to call it ACL - Automatic Cruiser Location?
I for one don't care for GPS. They can install it on any department vehicle I drive. In fact j fed can ride along in the back seat. For the last 20 year I have always been where I was suppose to be. If doing wrong you deserve what you get.
I think the citizens of the great City of Chicago should know where all city vehicles are all of the time. Why should the police not be tracked? The people have a right to know exactly where police vehicles, which are paid for by our taxes, are every minute of every day. That will prevent abuse.
Now the first vehicles that should get the GPS are the mayor's bodyguard detail. I want to know where those cars are every day. I want to know how long they are in Michigan and how often. I want to know where all of the other details are parked as well. I want to know where cars for the city council are and why. I want to know where all city vehicles are and have a print out of why they were there and if it was for official business.
I also want to know how much money is being spent on take home cars when gas is so high. I want to know who gets this benefit and why the tax payers have to foot the bill for it while they have to pay for their own way to work.
Yes, it's a good idea. A good idea all around. As long as no one is being singled out, eh shortshanks?
If the device records your location at a specific time different than where the accuser claims, the AVL information will be crucial in challenging the accusation. The AVL technology will back you up.
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how will this help in a shooting or other high priority call? How will the CAR locate an injured officer?
last year charlie williams came to 008 and said GPS cell phone were coming--you sign them out with your radio. everyone knew it was coming. but let's for 1 second give the department the benefit of the doubt. if an officer is cleared of a false allegation becuase of GPS, then what will happen to the accuser????? hmmmmmmm
AVL ( Auto Vehicle Locator) is more than a GPS .... GPS simply gives you the Lat/Long of your position...the AVL is capable of printing out your direction and speed, also it can calculate your estimated location based on direction/speed etc...in advance.
All info is saved so they can go back weeks and pull up data...
PS it will not work if your in a garage, underground or even under heavy tree branches...or if your PDT is off.
If GPS was about safety, it would be installed on the computers the dispatchers have. It isn't.
Here in CPD, GPS is about control and that is why it was installed on SGT'S PDT'S and Commanders Computers.
I have seen the tracking abilities from SGT'S in SOS and yes, it is very good.
11 district goes live with the gps system tonight
Last one out, turn off the lights!
Fuck it. Leave 'em on!
GPS will be the end of proactive policeing on this department.
get ready for reverse seniority tac & gang teams.
OFF TOPIC But important. City of Memphis Drops Subpoena Against Anonymous Blogger; Decision is a Victory for Freedom of Speech. SCC,loks like your blog and the 1st Amendment is safe....for now.
This blogger drove the Memphis PD administrators nuts with its blog.
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Dating back to as far 1837 when this department started. This Department has done fine without having GPS Or our DNA samples. So why now? This is a complete crock of BULL$HIT!!! Just another case of how a couple bad apples screw it up for the masses and how the city folds for and bends over and takes it in the a$$ for people who shouldnt but do call the shots!
Thats not all. I was told by a source that the city is putting specs together to go out for bid for some new radio for all of us to use and they will also all have GPS built right into the radio. This way they will always know where you and your partner are.
Big Brother is looking out for are safety.lol
As important as the others issues, remember when you write paper that your vehicle’s position was recorded. Defense attorneys will get your locations – prior to the arrest. The State will attempt to keep this from them; however, Judges will allow evidence which may prove the innocence of a person. Therefore, defense attorney will get your GPS recordings. Do not listen to the State or Corporation Counsel if they tell you otherwise.
Safety? In 11 ½ years, I have never heard on Zone 6 and 8 a situation where an Officer was injured and we couldn’t find them. Further, most of the time, the officer is on foot, not in a vehicle, when the exact location is hard to determine.
At the same time, some of you brought this on all of us. This job has been easy, really easy. But, we hired poor, lazy officers. All we had to do was to respond to calls in an efficient manner.
The point being is, be where you are supposed to be, because if you aren't, you will DEFINITELY have some 'splainin to do!
I'm willing to bet response times will improve significantly now.
Sgts. will be able to track all of their cars on their PDTs. The "no arrest no case report" domestics that have taken an hour or more will fall by the wayside now...
011 is getting them today. No more driving to 018
In a word, ACCOUNTABILITY.
A better idea, Shortshanks.
How about installing transmitter ankle bands on us 24/7?
Surgically implant a microchip in our ass.
Can we mail you a steamer with our DNA?
DONT FORGET U CAN HAVE A GPS COMPUTER MONITOR UR SPEED AND SEND IT TO BASE.
JUST LIKE ON STAR!
SQUAD IM AT MY LUNCH LOCATION WRONG!
SQUAD IM STILL IN THE STATION WRONG!
SQUAD IM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DISTRICT WRONG!
SQUAD THE WAGON IS STILL DOWN ON A TRANSPORT WRONG!
SQUAD ALL THE GANG TEAMS VEHICLE ARE PARKED IN THE DISTRICT LOT 3 HOUR BEFORE CHECK OFF OUCH!
CHANGE HITS US IN THE NUTZ AGAIN KEEP WRITING TICKETS.
MAKES U WONDER WHY THE GPS ISNT IN THE RADIOS.
You were a premature ejaculator, Mr. Orwell.
In retrospect, 1984 was a very good year.
You people are so fucking paranoid....suburbs and state police all have GPS...what's the big deal??? if you are where you are supposed to be and doing what you are supposed to be doing...why the big problem??? Listen up kids...it's comming and you can't do anything to prevent it so deal with it....Just like the cameras...you all cried about them....it's the department's property...if you don't like it..bid for the desk,lockup,caps,etc....they are here to stay and if you don't do anything stupid...you don't have anything to worry about.Fucking paranoid people......what would you do if you worked for Park Ridge, Lincolnwood,Skokie,Niles,Northbrook,Norridge,Barrington,Mount Prospect,Arlington Heights,Desplanes,they all have cameras and GPS...HOLY SHIT!!!!!! Let's complain about it ...get a life
O.T.
But it was nice to see that Sen Meeks boycott really worked.
CPS has announced that it was the Highest 1st day attendence mark in their history.
what will come first? This or the rifles they promised?
To the endearing and heart warming comment from the house mouse who posted the pax 501 concerning the gps...........go fuck yourself. No matter how you slice it, management will use it to cut your balls off....oh wait YOU DONT HAVE ANY FUCKIN BALLS_ STAY OFF THE BLOG FUCKFACE AND BE CONTENT WITH YOUR MERIT PROMOTION OR THE FACT YOU'RE LIGHT DUTY AND THEY ALLOW YOU TO SUCK THEIR ASS AT HEADQUARTERS. If I may reiterate, FUCK YOU
That sucks . Now they will Know when the gang and tact teams go home early.
Time for foot patrols and oh yeah evry time something is wrong with our finely tuned car down it!
Nothing but an electronic leash what is a Sgt. for or Field Lt. no need for direct supervision!
at 3000 bucks a pop i highly doubt that this will be operational anytime soon. suburbs have had it for twenty years. remember though, bosses will have these things also-- be careful what you wish for.
This is just wrong. I looked for years to find a nice quiet spot to hide and now every Tom, Dick and Harry will know where I am hiding for eight hours :(
Man I am glad I took advantage of the tuition reimbursement program a couple of years ago. Good bye CPD, good bye Shitcago, goodbye Crook County and the highest taxes in the country, good bye corrupt ass State of Illinois.
I found a new job, I suggest you all take advantage of that program and leave this fucking city and department. This is the happiest week of my life.
---20 years and out and only 41 years old.
SCC,
I am working police officer, former Chicago Cop, and former Chief of Police of a busy PD with a diverse mission.
I wish I could believe that the City wanted to deploy AVL technology for officer safety reasons but I just can't. AVL does have its uses in jurisdictions that cover large land masses or are forced to deploy with minimal staffing, and or equipment.
Case in point, AVL is commonly used by Sheriff agencies that utilize solo units to police large or remote areas. AVL is also effective in sending the closest possible fire unit or ambulance to a fire or life/safety emergency.
It kills me to see so many 10-99 cars today. Back in the day the only cars that worked 10-99 were on Days. If you were 10-99 on 1st or 3rd Watch you were either an ET, Traffic, or a Hospital Paper Car. If the City is serious about improving officer safety add some more personnel to the Patrol Division.
My fear with AVL for the PD is that it will become a way for the Administration to spread the available units even thinner citing that units are being deployed and monitored for optimum coverage and response times. Another fear is that the City would use it as further argument for ensuring the safety of personnel working well beyond the boundaries of their assigned Districts, ie Tact and Gang Teams.
Supervisors should be especially leery of this technology as it can be used to make cases, not against officers, but against bosses who fail to keep assigned personnel from congregating or being off beats. If you are a supervisor you should become very familiar with the term Negligent Supervision, after all it ended up landing LAPD Sgt. Satcy Koon in federal prison.
Personally I am on the fence when it comes to enhanced technology in the field of law enforcement. Cameras, AVL, Tasers, DNA Testing and other devices can be useful but should not be allowed to become the status quo. Every incident of surrender to enhanced technology degrades the word of every officer on the street. In today's world we should not be undermining the integrity of the law enfocement community we should be improving the public's perception of it. I fear the day when court cases will rely completely upon electronic and forensic eveidence alone.
By the way for newer personnel I would like to state that CPD has had AVL for years. However, in the past if they were tracking you it was a secret. I pray that the current Administration starts supporting the rank and file instead of just frustrating it, I do and always will believe in the CPD.
Be Safe!!!
I'm just a civilian, but I support what you guys do every day for us. I don't blame you for being concerned, but maybe this will help: I work for a company that uses AVL's, and can tell you that in almost every case I'm aware of, it has been used to verify that vehicles were where they were supposed to be, when they were supposed to be there. In other words, it has been used for company and driver defense, not to spy on drivers. That said, who knows what CPD plans to do with it?
I don't work directly with the system, but what I do know is that it operates 24 hours a day on all cars- no one has the manpower to check all the AVL's all the time- so it's unlikely anyone's going to spy on you; they'll probably only use it when they need to investigate where a certain car was at a certain time.
Hopefully this puts your mind at ease. Keep doing the great work you guys do.
regarding the comment about wanting to know where city council cars are (I belive only one alerman still has police guards), last summer Burke was up in Lake Genevea, WI for a personal event, being driven around by two guys in a city of chicago unmarked car. glad I don't live in the city, what a waste of fucking resources and money
This was in the scum times today:
Despite a boycott, Chicago Public Schools officials announced record high first-day attendance.
Are they kidding??????????? Who did the counting, a CPS student??? Were they counting in dog years? What a joke!
But if you do what you are supposed to be doing, there's nothing to worry about. Right?
9/05/2008 12:11:00 AM
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Officer's have been discliplined for doing WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. Go get back on the short bus .
city is OUT OF CONTROL, Time to fight back people. DNA? I mean i dont care so much about the GPS, many suburbs have it and I mean its not like im leaving my district or anything so they can track me whenever they want. i go to my jobs so I dont care about that. But DNA? This department is routinely violating the contract not to mention the constitution the way they do things. Criminals have way more rights than any of us. FIGHT BACK PEOPLE
DONAHUE HAS TO GO!
GPS will soon be put on the bikes, horses and motorcycles!
I can understand the concern about the potential for the use of GPS to track the location and speed of cops on duty. I would not get too concerned. A LOT of employers use GPS in company owned vehicles to track employees. it just another tool for managers and supervisors.
Look at it this way. There is no way they can spend the time to look at records of everyone in a squad car every day. It will mostly be used where there is some suspicion or allegation of wrong doing, and could quickly show either there is reason to proceed with looking into someone's behavior, or there isn't. In any case, there is nothing to fear if you are not doing things you should not be doing in the first place.
I have had "GPS" in my squad car for two years and let me assure you that the Department has used it in a manner that was anything but for the officers safety. This has been used as a disiplinary tool
and nothing more. This is not a prediction it is a fact. They have used it to question such things as, " why were you stopped for 22 minutes at 3230 N. Western. (They forgot where A/3 was i guess)Believe me when I say this is just another tool for disipline and keeps with the Sup.'s policies of
hammering the men and then he asks why activity is down and crime is up !!!! The OEC cant even find my
location if I was calling for help! They have no capcity to find me as it stands now. They fould have to wake up one of my bosses and have him get on a computer via the internet and use his pass key to locate my position then relay it to OEC ! They also can go back months and tell your exact route for the entire 8 hours of duty on any given day. Offifer Safety BS
like all of J-Feds other policys.
His administration focuses on one thing...disipline...and the homicide rate and crime stats show it. When will the city council wise
up and realize who the problem is?
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security - Ben Franklin
To all the people who say " if you're not doing anything wrong then you don't have anything to worry about" You are completely wrong. GPS will be able to show that your car was at a scene if someone makes a complaint. The department can make this small thing the preponderance of the evidence to sustain a CR. By the way they are starting to install GPS in radios.
They have been exoerimenting with this since at least 2001, so nothing new here. If you ever had a pool car that already had it's own PDT, you've been tagged like a fish.
Second City Corp. counsel says:
I've had cases where GPS on the cop car would have been a huge blessing. Huge.
Don't laugh at the false accusations bit.
Just saying.
Time to start "Share Driving". You drive first half your partner drives second half. That way your alert for the ride home. Sleep tight.
Terrible way to go to work.
Is everyone pretty much in the same boat?
yes
Honestly Who gives a FUCK about the stupid GPS... Fuck the City... IF they want to fuck with me that bad I will fuck with them even harder! No movers, no parkers, taking my sweet ass time on my jobs, writing my reports as slowly as I can right down the street from a job, making sure I take both personals and a lunch. I know many of you probably take both personals and a lunch everyday but its impossible if you are in a rap till 4am and then once the rap is clear, everyone wants a personal or lunch... and then you have a certain sgt. telling you lunch has been denied, stupid bitch..
Please stop saying "cruisers"! I can't take it anymore!
I have GPS on my penis. Now try to follow it all day long.
SCC PREDICTION - This system is used to fuck over a copper before it's ever used to clear one. Take that one to Vegas and see what odds you'll get on it.
SCC you are spot on as usual.Take it from someone who works in the burbs that the brass will use it to jamb it in your ass.Its just another tool used to fuck with guys.
The ooficer safety BS is just a ruse.
The hurt inside is fading
This shits gone way too far
All this time I've been waiting
Oh I cannot grieve anymore
For once inside awaking
I'm done, I'm not a whore
You've taken everything
and, Oh I cannot give anymore
My mind's done with this
Ok, I've got a question
Can I throw it all away?
Take back what's mine
Korn, Here to Stay
Gps and cameras will not help catch robbers and burglars; crimes that affect most tax paying citizens in this city. WORKING POLICE DO!!!!
Please someone give me a reason to work again.....Im so bored
I believe in civil liberties for everyone, including police officers.
Spycams, GPS, DNA swabs, breathalyzers -- it's all Big Brother stuff.
It's bad for all citizens, including police officers.
Anonymous said...
I think the citizens of the great City of Chicago should know where all city vehicles are all of the time. Why should the police not be tracked? The people have a right to know exactly where police vehicles, which are paid for by our taxes, are every minute of every day. That will prevent abuse.
Now the first vehicles that should get the GPS are the mayor's bodyguard detail. I want to know where those cars are every day. I want to know how long they are in Michigan and how often. I want to know where all of the other details are parked as well. I want to know where cars for the city council are and why. I want to know where all city vehicles are and have a print out of why they were there and if it was for official business.
I also want to know how much money is being spent on take home cars when gas is so high. I want to know who gets this benefit and why the tax payers have to foot the bill for it while they have to pay for their own way to work.
Yes, it's a good idea. A good idea all around. As long as no one is being singled out, eh shortshanks?
9/05/2008 06:57:00 AM
How about the aldermen that have drivers! Hey eddie burke how many times is your car the police car out of the city/state in Wisconsin at the other mansion? Put gps on it also! How about the city treasurers big deatil with the unmarked also GPS on it also! As a matter of fact why does she/he even have a detail no one knows who that person is! Waste of more money when the city is broke! Whats with all the D-3 guys working at midway/ohare guess the crime lab and bodyguards don' t make enough money, along with the detectives just greed!
If it shows howe fast ok, now I will not activate lights and obey every law unless it is a police family or copper calling for assist! The citizens lose again thanks to poor management of resources! This dept has been on a slide for a long time and it gets more slick every minute! I will obey every law and never speed even 1 mph over limit this is what they want this is what they will get! Glad i am in KMA club but will stay for awhile to watch the circus! No work just the theatre!
Anonymous said...
Question to the old timers:
Has there ever been a lower point in CPD history?
A more hated Superintedent?
Can't believe i came on 7 years ago to a job that everyone loved and raved about and had so much fun at, and in these short years it has turned so south.
Just so sad :(
9/05/2008 01:53:00 AM
Anonymous said...
off topic: Can anyone tell me what "Detached Services" does?
9/05/2008 04:51:00 AM
Question 1 this is the lowest it has ever been!
#2 they are the inspector generals rats, and all the drivers for the elected kings burke,daley,treasuerer,etc... It is a secret dontchaknow! D-3 city same pay as sgts plus overtime, plus they still work "special" to stick it to the working blue shirts! CLOUT all the way!
So can I request the info thru the freedom of information act and make the city explain why the fuck I haven't seen a police car in my neighborhood in months? I'm not really worried about that though because I have all those nice dept. of revenue suckholes patrolling on a constant basis. I for one could care a less about GPS because now I will be responding to all calls regardless of priority(with the exception of a 10-1) going the speed limit, waiting at all red lights and coming to complete stops at all stop signs. Too bad for the poor woman getting her ass beat by a drunk husband or the girl getting raped by another honor roll student because those are the only ones this will affect.
Anonymous said...
off topic: Can anyone tell me what "Detached Services" does?
9/05/2008 04:51:00 AM
Detached services oversees details which bring an Officer outside the depts. immediate supervision.
Examples:
States Attys. Office
Inspector Generals Office
Mayors and Burkes Detail
just to name a few that I know
just wait til dude says he be harrassed by the po-lice at the corner of (you pick) called him out of his name. no name no star number no vehicle number and they look up who was there via gps and the coppers get a beef. now you tac guys go out there and get them! let me know when the city and j- fed stick it in your ass. and don't cry that you have to make a house payment.
Has there ever been a lower point in CPD history?
A more hated Superintedent?
Leroy Martin was a bigger jagoff than this guy
I'm sure the micro manager mealer would love to know where everyone is at every second of the tour.
So, with gas costing 4+ bucks a gallon, does this mean that we're going to see a city income tax to pay for the increased cost of having every squad constantly moving during every watch, 24/7?
The city is pushing for GPS for all sorts of workers. Check out ctatattler.com and one of the most recent posts is about the bus locator service being expanded, and that's something that is available in real-time on the internet.
Thing is, I don't have a problem with being able to ensure people are where they are supposed to be. Problem is, and every one of you knows this, the only people who are likely to be affected by any of this are patrol and a few specialized units.
You think anyone is gonna do a GPS implant for all the bunnies at 35th street, city hall, and assorted hiding spots all over the city? How about for medical abusers?
They say its going into commanders cars, but I would but 99.9% on it that its only going into cars of those who they might wish to harm someday.
Its sort of like human resources in the private sector, and a bit in the city. You are supposed to document every single thing anyone does wrong in order to justify firing them for a pattern of misconduct or negligence. So they paper the file of almost everyone (but not the bosses or their relatives), and just bring out the dirty paper when they finally want to get rid of you.
Likewise GPS. Its only going to be used against the most oppressed workers in the city, and that is those workers who actually are supposed to be somewhere in the field at a certain time.
The other 7000, 8000 or 9000 sworn in the CPD? I guarantee you Daley and his crew don't even want anybody to know where they are.
Bunch of cry baby pussies all of you. Do your fucking job, that's all. Get a radio assignment, handle the assignment. You're done, come clear. Have to do a report, write the fucking report. See someone do something stupid, pull them over. Write them or not, depends on the violation and THEIR attitude.
Take your lunch and go home safe. GPS? I don't give a fuck. I do my job and and don't sit in the hole, don't stay at 7-11 for half the tour. Quit the whining.
Subject: ON DUTY USE OF CELLPHONE.
We should all quit using our cellphone" for any work related shit.
YOu are on the scene of a visit from " mr Chalkie" and the zone tell's you to call ops command and the fusion center asap. F-THEM! Don't call anyone anymore. Tell the zone politely "squad I don't own a cell phone they will have to wait until I get into the station".
There is no general order that states you have to own a cell phone and make immediate calls to ops command and the fusion center. Why do they need to know ASAP?
Judas -Fed wants to track our every bowel movement make it that much harder for him, aunt bea, and the screaming skull to get info from us out in the streets.
Has the department ever reimbursed you for the use of your personally owned cell phone? NO. They will only use it to screw you over in an incident. Get a trac phone and pay cash for it or get a phone in someone else's name.
Police work is over and so is j-fed's career. Worst superintendent in the history of modern policing. I mean de-policing.
"Go ahead, fuck with the GPS unit in the car. I’ll bet you get hit with a “Criminal Damage” case! No, putting tin-foil over the antenna won’t work."
Maybe aluminum foil won't work but I bet a nice big sheet of lead would.
This rumor has been on going since that mush became the Supt. You all knew it was coming why are you shocked?
Good luck in taking the power source off, they are all concealed in a LOCKED box.
Good, Now they will know that I sit and watch a movie in the DOC. I am where I am supposed to be, come get me.
"Is everyone pretty much in the same boat?
9/05/2008 01:44:00 AM"
Yep, and it's called the Minnow.
They can be 'foiled' (pun intended) as simply as wrapping the unit in tinfoil (block the signal). If you really want to be slick, use white shoepolish on the foil and it will look stock on a quick glanceover.
But if you do what you are supposed to be doing, there's nothing to worry about. Right?
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Yeah, like the "man" watching to make sure we make quotas on ticketing the decent citizens while thwarting our, on the job training, of sometimes not letting everyone know where we are so we can catch the bad guy.
So what that GPS is here? If you do what you are supposed to be doing then you have NOTHING to worry about. I am glad that we will have GPS. I work on 1st watch and there are lazy ass cops who park their car in a spot no one can see and sleep for a couple of hours, watch a movie on their portable dvd player or surf the net on their lap top.
As cops, some of us love to use "big brother technology" on civilians. But use that same "big brother technology" on us and all hell breaks loose. So to all of my fellow cops who love to have it both ways; too bad, you can't! Just do your job and you have nothing to worry about.
If someone fucks up when they know they have a car with gps, they deserve it; be where you are suppose to be. Use your head these days....
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And, when you and Jody are making our lunches for coppers on the southside and westside working midnites...make sure you let him know I like lettuce and honey mustard with my turkey...on wheat!!!!
im an inspector and i cant wait to fuck you guys..........hahahahahaha
I think the citizens of the great City of Chicago should know where all city vehicles are all of the time. Why should the police not be tracked? The people have a right to know exactly where police vehicles, which are paid for by our taxes, are every minute of every day. That will prevent abuse.
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WOW...let the bad guy know where the police are at every moment so they have no fear of getting caught while committing a crime...BRILLIANCE!!!!
to: 9/05/2008 06:57:00 AM
Good sarcasm...got so angry...had to reply before reading the whole thing...my bad.
Dating back to as far 1837 when this department started. This Department has done fine without having GPS.
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The actual department started in 1855.
I KNOW because I started in November 1856.
~ Sgt. George Whiteside -025 (just retired)
Citizens, Think about it! If they are going to take our DNA sample for each crime scene we are on?, Do you think we'll be running to get to crime scenes? I know I won't...and informants won't have anyone to inform. Welcome the FBI with open arms...shall we bring up their credentials?
looks like another outdoor roll call at the golden nugget
GPS and AVL were looked at as far back as the early 1990s for both police and fire. It is NOT a new idea for the CPD and capabilities were evaluated around 1993.
People who evaluated the technology at that time only had the safety of the officer in mind. Maybe today's administration would look at it as an electronic leash or way to discipline slackers. Abusing the technology for this IS a possibility. (applying it for administrative prerogatives)
However, locations of resources are important. Some of you are way too paranoid. Do the job - or leave.
off topic: Can anyone tell me what "Detached Services" does?
9/05/2008 04:51:00 AM
Whatever "Attached Services" doesn't.
GPS HELP YOU, YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME. TAKE IT FROM ME ALL IT DOES IS LET THE MAN KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU AT ALL TIMES.
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The man?!!! That's priceless. I hate to tell you, but once you pinned that star on, YOU became "the man"........lol
City replaces sewer inspection firm linked to mayor's family
They gave the contract to another political boy. The conflicted felon who is on the run in Mexico His son is the new contractor. nothing new the son is the pay off so the father will not talk. Oh the games they play. Ask John Kass.
I thought Aunt Bea with all her years of hard police service (5 honorables)would use better judgement.
I know a shit load of good policeman that don;t have Honorable mentions they don't mean shit. Get over youself already. How about she is a shit policemen.
What concerns me about the GPS is the fact the gangbangers can purchase equipment to track us as well. The big brother program can be used against us. The city will claim that the gangbangers can't track us but its a lie.
Safety? How about this department give us cars that f-n work? Instead of pool cars with no transmission, brakes or heat. Hell, how about they even give us enough pool cars instead of "sorry, we're all out, but we're downing your brand new car for brakes...you'll get it back in about 4 months. Enjoy your new foot patrol." Plus, if you need a pdt for this to work my district is safe. Not even half our squad cars have a pdt (and yes, the dispatchers get pissy if you wanna run a name). Is it too much to ask that before you start with this BS you give us all what we're supposed to ALREADY have? Oh wait... it is.
The next thing they are going to do is microchip us like my pooch so they will know where we are at all times (officer safety you know). It will also contain an ethyl alchol detector which will send a ping with our location to IAD so they can come strip us for unauthorized consumption of alcohol.
Don't laugh I'm sure they're working on it right now.
A QUICK STORY ON GPS.
A "FRIEND" OF MINE A STREET AND SAN. GUY WHO IS A SUPERVISOR WAS LOOKING FOR HIS SNOWPLOWS. A CERTAIN WARD SEEMED TO GET MORE COVERAGE. THE FRIEND THREATENED TO RETRIEVE ALL THE GPS FOR THE TRUCKS TO SEE WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
GUESS WAT THE OUTCOME WAS THOSE TRUCKS WERE ALWAYS IN THE WARD.
NOW IF THE CITY DOCUMENTS ARE MOVEMENTS A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT CAN BE SENT TO CITY HALL REQUESTING HOW MANY PATROL CARS GO THRU A BEAT.
OR HOW MANY CARS WERE DETAILED OUT OF THE DISTRICT AND WHAT WERE THEY DOING.
A FOIA CAN SEE HOW MANY CARS WERE UP AND FOR HOW MANY HOURS.
A FOIA COULD BE USED TO SEE WHAT J-FED DOES WITH HIS VEHICLE.
NOW THE DEPARTMENT MIGHT THINK THEY COULD BLOCK THIS TO CIVILIAN BUT HOW ABOUT AN ALDERMAN OR COUNTY COMMISIONER.
DONT FORGET THE CITY IS PUTTING THEMSELVE IN A TRICK BAG!
U KNOW THE CALL OF MY BABIES DADDY HAS A GUN AND IS GOING TO KILL ME. WHAT IF THE OFFICER DOESNT DRIVE FAST ENUFF OR GO THRU RED LIGHT WITH A SIREN AND R GENIUS VICTIM IS KILLED.
WHOSE PAYING THE TAB ON THAT SUIT... CHEW ON THAT THINK TANK, AUNT BEA,AND JACKSON.
They can track how I do NOTHING!
So WHAT! and a VERY FUCK YOU J-FED!
They can watch the car sit on the beat for all I care!
go f yourself
Why do a humper?
Just print out all of the bullshit!
SCC Said..........
Well thank goodness this technology will "back us up" - because everyone knows that the Department won't. This fucked up organization won't even go after proven perjurers who sign sworn affidavits against police officers and we're expected to believe that they're going to pull GPS records to unfound CR numbers? Give us a fucking break.
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right on SCC. We already had a Officer (JS) use a technology (In car Camera) to prove a Offender was making a false accusation against him. What happened? He was told to take a hike when he wanted to pursue and when he brought it up at a "Open" (HaHa) meeting he got dumped. Yeah its here to help us. (Note Sarcasm)
BARTENDER...............!
Rule 14's for everyone!
A toast to you and all the hard work for the last 100 years!
CPD here here!
CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN.
Damn did them Dems show their true colors after Palin's speech.
They are no more the party of women's rights(assault on Palin) then they were the party of minority rights (castration of Clarence Thomas). Remember that disgrace.
Does "women's rights" mean never wanting to choose life when faced with challenge, and if you do, don't hold yourself up as an example or we will paint you and your parents as irresponsible.
Does "minority rights" mean never choosing to be accountable to ones self, but if you should achieve on your own, in something besides sports or entertainment, keep it to yourself, or we will label you an Uncle Tom.
The Democrats have become nothing more than a nationwide collection of Meeks/Jackson/Flager/Sharpton ministers of misery.
I love my Union father and his commitment to the working people, but this paty has lost it's soul.
OT
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20080904/Intruders.Shot/
Worth the read.
OT...
Go pound sand you jealous MF. Drop a resume off in the CCG office (along with your ACTIVITY) and maybe when they re-up you can make the team. BTW, the saturation team works in 001 as well so maybe they spend the other 2-3 Hrs there.
To the gentleman who responded above to another officer,you sir, are a fool. The current coin of the realm of this department is a phone call. If you think that special units or assignments are based on subjective assessment of ones activity or resume', you live in another plane of existence. Either you are ignorant (do not know the rules and culture),or are stupid (know them, but still deny them). It is hard to believe one could be so obtuse.
Be that as it may, i will continue to do the following...
Respond to my calls in a timely manner
Write paper that is thorough and complete
And back up fellow officers
Finally, I will ask the good officer in question the one that everyone seems uncomfortable answering...
If you get stripped, fired, or indicted, do you get to keep your "spot"?
Now go out there and generate some numbers for the bosses, who will throw you under the bus without so much as a second thought. I'm sure you want to keep your "spot"
I'm not sayin,I'm just sayin...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I love this job!
I came in to work yesterday at 0705. Roll call didn’t start until 0710, and when it did it only lasted five minutes because the Watch Commander didn’t come down. I chatted with my buddies for a while before picking up my radio at 0725 and turned it on just in time to hear the zone banging me. Since I don’t answer before 0730 I had time to urinate and make a quick phone call.
0730: I let the zone know that I was assigned by the desk sergeant to pick up coffee and treats from Dunkin’ Donuts. At 0745, I headed out to my car only to turn around and head back to the radio room for another; not only was the PDT not working, but the driver’s seat was stuck in a terribly uncomfortable position. I needed a beat tag too.
0800: I was in my car ready to roll. I completed my mission to Dunkin’ Donuts for the desk and was about to head back out when the review officer grabbed me for a run to Starbucks for a latte and piece of low-fat pound cake. At that time another car was making a third separate breakfast run for the lockup so I knew the review officer was in a pinch.
0900: The zone unleashes their first job on me, a #1 parker from an anonymous citizen that they’re holding me down on. That buys me travel time to breakfast so I immediately head off in the opposite direction. Half-way through my poached eggs and toast I give a 6B and request a personal which carries me through to 1000.
1015: Sergeant calls for cars at a street roll call where I finish my coffee.
1030: SOP mission. I read the paper.
1045: I volunteer to back up on a domestic. It’s over quickly, and now my fellow officer and I are ready for lunch. Between the job and travel time we down ourselves for lunch at 1130.
1200: I’m up and assigned a traffic accident. No injuries and one car can be driven, but on the other car the rear bumper is pushed against the tire. After a quick “repair” by yours truly I’m able to send both parties in to the desk for their report.
1245: Transport for some tact guys. They grab one then decide to round up two more so I follow them around for 15 minutes before driving three bad guys in to the station. They gotta have their numbers and I gotta have something to do…it’s a match made in heaven! On the way I chat with them about Meeks, Gustav and McCain/Palin. They don’t seem to be up on current events so they don’t have much to say besides “I didn’t do shit” and “whatchu talkin’ bout, muffukka”.
1330: Shots fired. I’m close, I go. Nothing to it.
1345: Personal.
1400: Man down. CFD gets him up and walking. Thanks, CFD! 9D. After that, the zone leaves me alone to enjoy my ice cream bar until check off.
Still waiting for our contract.
How was your day?
9/04/2008 12:03:00 PM
You sir, are my new hero!!
I have printed out your post and installed it in a handsome frame.
and I'm sayin it...
Prediction:
Mealer will make Mayor no wait Superintendent no wait something special.........maybe Groucho Marx stand in for the next Duck Soup Movie...............
HAIL HAIL FREDONIA!
Starring
Harpo: thats Oprah spelled backwards
Chico: Some illegal Day laborer
And
Zeppo: The guy working as his secretary already that had a taser pointed at him. (call him zappo instead)
Just sayin'
Anonymous Railroad Guy said...
Don't worry about the railroad guys writing parkers. The numbers are going to be almost non-existent. I was given a book and told it was mandatory to have but not mandatory to write any. The ticket book went right into my locker where it will stay till I retire.
9/04/2008 05:14:00 PM
A tip of the old chapeau to you sir. Thank you for your support. Now if the rest of the department would just pick up on that...
I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin...
Whenever they change the real name of something, you know you're fucked.
I was the suburban police prior to shitcago. This GPS is totally about fucking over patrolmen. I've been called into the Sgt's office and asked "why were you going 50 mph in that 30 zone?, we didn't show you on a job" or "You were stationary for 33 minutes, what were you doing?". Mind you, they already knew the answer, they were trying to ellicit a lie to really screw you over.
This is really bad and the un-clouted will be the only ones to get screwed by it.
And if you don't think they monitor this blog looking for "malcontents" to target you are indeed crazy.
The only officers who will get their pensions will be the clouted ones. All others will be targeted for harassment and petty rules violations and hounded off the job prior to their 20.
"gee officer, you took the long route to that job, inattention to duty" "gee officer, you were within 7 blocks of a disturbance call and didn't respond, cowardess"
And the burb I worked for swore on a 10 foot stack of bibles that this was an officer safety tool only...my ass. They were fucking over cops within days of full implimentation of GPS. And as for Mr 12:11 am, "if you are doing what you are supposed to be doing."
How I recall a similar kool-aide drinker who got religion after his suspension for not responding with lights and sirens to an accident assignment. He felt it unnecessary, but the A-hole micro manager Sgt felt otherwise and he took a day.
Brace yourselves, this job is headed for the crapper!
AND AGAIN THEY PROVE THEY DO NOT WANT US TO DO SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!
As a former member of S.O.S. I can say that the G.P.S. never hurt me. There were a few other guys that got it shoved up there ass in house for being out of an area they were supposed to be in...but what can you say? If you are where you are supposed to be and doing what you are supposed to do.....no big deal.
HOWEVER, since J FED wanted this for our "safety" and to "protect us" I'd love to have one of our
UNION REPS put it to J FED and ask him "NOW WILL THE CITY PROSECUTE IF A SHITBAG SIGNS AN AFFADAVIT ATTESTING TO AN OFFICERS WRONGDOING WHEN THE OFFICER WAS NEVER THERE??!!!".
And for the comment SCC that this will screw a copper long before it helps one....c'mon of course it will. Just look at the number of douchebags who got in trouble in 08 alone. For every story of a copper that was screwed there were five that left you scratching your head saying "No fuckin way not another one, not again!"
AVL ( Auto Vehicle Locator) is more than a GPS .... GPS simply gives you the Lat/Long of your position...the AVL is capable of printing out your direction and speed, also it can calculate your estimated location based on direction/speed etc...in advance.
All info is saved so they can go back weeks and pull up data...
PS it will not work if your in a garage, underground or even under heavy tree branches...or if your PDT is off.
9/05/2008 07:33:00 AM
WRONG!!!
GPS CAN give you direction and speed numbnutz. It's all based on math. Think about it. Just like ROD Blaboy-o-bitch wants to put cameras on the highway....NO NEED TO. You have an I PASS? then explain how your transponder got from toll both 1 to toll booth 2 in 10 minutes when the booths are 15 miles apart....should take you 15min goin 60. HERE'S YOUR SPEEDING TICKET for going 90MPH.
Anonymous said...
"Question to the old timers:
Has there ever been a lower point in CPD history?
A more hated Superintedent? "...........UMMMMM,NO and FUCK NO!!Does 22 years qualify as an old timer?During Leroy Martin Dada's reign of terror he was particularly unpopular........but no contest.....Jody is the number 1 JAG!!!!!
The GPS system that is being installed in ALL 2500 police vehicles is being done by OEMC. They, not the police budget paid for this.
We have talked about GPS for years coming to our cop cars, well today it arrived.
Don't bitch, BACK EACH OTHER UP!
And where would they get the amount of manpower they would need to sit and analyze all of the gps reports with all of the unit's humpers day after day?
9/05/2008 04:11:00 AM
As FORMER S.O.S. let me tell you there are LOTS of people looking at the G.P.S. First each Sargeant is responsible for their officers. Second, the LT. and Commander would randomly check out cars. They had INSPECTORS assigned to look at so many each day. Then there were people who were just curious looking at it and seeing how it worked. BELIEVE ME, when it first rolls out there will be LOTS of eyes on it. Eventually it will boil down to the basics like Sgts and W/C's with inspectors lookin randomly.
Two things this will force us all to do.
1. Buy a portable video player (what's the best model for the money?)
2. Join NETFLIX
Whatever "Attached Services" doesn't.
9/05/2008 02:31:00 PM
funny
what you sayin?
GPS also keeps record of how much time is spent on the street to the second..for example if the car is shut off for any reason the GPS is still making hits on that car at the end of the tour a sup can pull up that cars GPS log and it will tell them exactly how many hours a vehicle has spent on the street patrolling so if you start at 0800 and check off at 1630 and lets say you stopped at a place of business to talk to the good citizens on your beat(lol) and you spent 40 minutes there (lol like we have that much time)while still being available for jobs it would minus that from your tour time spent on the street so 40 + 30(lunch)+ 30 (2 pers) 1hr 40 min = 6 hrs 50 mins on patrol My question is...If this is for SAFTEY reasons why the break down?
I BET dALEYS DNA IS LOADED UP IN J-FEDS ASS!
I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy nut, BUT way back when you took the piss test they took a sample of DNA and recorded it. Remember when we got new badges…yep gps built in. Your new glock or soon to be new glock, you guessed it. Each one test fired and recorded at the factory and since you registered it the city knows. And when you stuck your penis into that hot blond, she went into the bath room and placed some of your swimmers into a glad bag incase you make it big some day.
Wow, i can't believe what this dep't has come to. In just the past 5 years it has turned upside down. I'm sure this wasn't their intended goal, but man, i don't think there's going to be any working police left out there. Well, there's always a few nuts on each watch, so they'll keep working (until they get sued) but after that NOBODY.
Seriously though, have we hit rock bottom yet? I didn't think it could get any worse than about a year ago and here i stand bewildered that they are managing to disgruntle each and every one of us.
I'll admit, i use to be a worker. One arrest a day, then relax and enjoy the rest of the tour.
Now: zero arrests in 4 months, having no fun, and afraid to do anything. Terrible way to go to work.
Is everyone pretty much in the same boat?
9/05/2008 01:44:00 AM
GPS, DNA, the hunters have become the hunted. God help us.
---not a cop.
But if you do what you are supposed to be doing, there's nothing to worry about. Right?
9/05/2008 12:11:00 AM
Typical white shirt mentality. Screw the blue shirts. Morale keeps on dropping.
It is getting worse. The whore bosses will stick it to you every time. Do not cooperate with idiotic whore bosses if it is not in you interest. I can say that you should act dumb but then they would promote you to Sgt. and you would be one of 'THEM'.
I know a shit load of good policeman that don;t have Honorable mentions they don't mean shit. Get over youself already. How about she is a shit policemen.
9/05/2008 02:53:00 PM
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Sorry, but the head the patrol division should have more than 5 honorables. It is not possible to have less than this amount if you were a "good policeman". I don't care how shitty your sergeants were.
Question to the old timers:
Has there ever been a lower point in CPD history?
A more hated Superintedent?
Came on in the 70's got 3 months left in this rathole,then goodby
Chicago/Crook county.In answer to your question,I can't remember morale ever being this low in my time.Every superintendent I've worked for from Rochford to J-fed was hated by some of the troops,but
J-fed takes the prize.Through his lack of mgmnt skills,and his FBI holier than thou mentality towards
local police depts he is hated by EVERYONE!That is not somthing I'd be proud of if I were in his position.In the service I learned a very long time ago as a 17 year old punk kid from the south side respect is earned,rank alone does not make you a leader.
It saddens me to see the CPD in the condition it's in today.But you can lay it all at the feet of shortshanks,this is what he wanted
now the chickens have come home to roost.And apparantly he does'nt know how to deal with it.
To all of you street coppers out there,keep doing the Lords work,by depolicing you can tell your being heard and your actions felt by the way their lashing out at you.
For you young officers with less than 10 years,keep the faith,the law of averages are on your side and shortshanks should end up like his old man,who by the way treated us a lot better than his spawn.
God Bless,back each other up,and go home to your loved ones each day
the same way you left for work.
To 9/04 @ 12:03...You are a typical lazy ass jagoff copper!!
Most of the people who post on this blog repeadedly are the same type of Lazy Ass Jagoff Coppers like this poster....but when they need something they better get all the help they demand....right?? Gang bangers on my block can you have tact go there and lock them up?? They are sellin weed from a house on my block can you have tact watch it?? I saw pookie in my neighborhood can the beat car cruise around?? FUCK YOU COP why don't you do it yourself?? You big mouth Lazy Jagoff!! You are they exact type of person who needs to get jammed up or resign...you're a do nothing...You want everything and give nothing...except when you need it...I have 15 years on this job and I come to work every day and have a blast...Yes I am a supervisor and if you worked for me I would make damn sure that you do something dogass... I don't give a flying fuck if they put a GPS on my car and attach a weather baloon to it...who gives a fuck....it will not stop me from being the police...I will just use my brain and do my job...the job I get paid to do right?? Oh and I bet you have one of those "evil" cameras too??? The kind that record everything you do...or don't do....in your case...GPS is great for dogasses like you who don't do anything because people like me can make you work and shut your big ignorant mouth...I am so fucking fed up with this whining bullshit...the city will do whatever it wants to do it's their fucking cars...just go and do your job...stop the whining already and earn your pay of fucking resign jerkoff....I am sure you will respond with all of your words of wisdom and reasons not to work and how you have been fucked etc...I have been in federal court 8 times killed several offenders and still do my job...so before you start with the lawsuits and CR#'s...save it hero..do the job or quit..plain and simple...let me end with this...if your own mother needed police service and a dogass like you responded to her would you be happy?? what is it that you need to be so fucking disgruntled about...any of you?? You have a job unlike any other...try this shit at Target or Jewel...you'd be gone in less than a month...Now shut the fuck up and do your job.
where can I get a Chalkie shirt?
PS it will not work if your in a garage, underground or even under heavy tree branches...or if your PDT is off.
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Squad I've got seven names to run...and two i.d.'s
The cars are the department's. My dna is mine. My wife and kids know when I'm coming home and that I will call if I'm working overtime. If they done hear from me, I'm dead. My wife will be ready with my toothbrush.
If you not comfortable advising your wife or single, get a buccal swab collection kit from an E.T. There's an instruction sheet enclosed. Prepare the kit and keep it with your important papers.
O.T. I am a Supervisor in a Unit, someone who might be bashed on this blog, for having a "spot". Day in and day out, to and from work and when I can during the day, I have the zone on and I respond to calls. To all the people in Patrol,where we all come from and where we can all be again tomorrow, I salute you for being the backbone of the Department. I enjoy backing you up, and it keeps me grounded to the reality of what you all do, and what i did, everyday. No matter what you hear, you are appreciated by this supervisor and many others. Keep up the good work and be safe! If we ever meet out there, I will be there to watch your back and make sure you go home safe to your family!
This job is really starting to suck. Glad I have the option to quit in a few short months. To all the new guys- I'll pray for you all.
The zone unleashes their first job on me, a #1 parker from an anonymous citizen that they’re holding me down on. That buys me travel time to breakfast so I immediately head off in the opposite direction. Half-way through my poached eggs and toast I give a 6B and request a personal which carries me through to 1000.
That isnt going to fly with the AVL system. You will be jammed.
Also, last year when 153 was in its final days before being disbanded by Starks, their cars had the AVL system installed.
A few cars one night got into a police shooting on the west-side. Partner bails out on foot and the other gives chase with the car. Bad guy had a gun and was shot by 153 guys. I dont remember if they killed him or not. Anyway, when the shooting was over and everything went back to the area, the driver of the squad car was interviewed by detectives.
The officer gave his account of what happened and what he did while driving, such as i went down this street then back up that street, etc. The detective took the statement and put it in a Sup report.
Well a few weeks later the detective got the print out of the AVL and guess what, the squad car didnt go in all those directions and streets that the officer said he did.
The officer was called back into the area and re-interviewed and shown the print out of the AVL. Nothing else the officer could do but say, ok i guess i was wrong on where i was driving. No one was acussing the officer of wrong doing but it made him look silly and it is now documented in official reports for the police shooting.
Yea, the AVL is here to help us.
If you have a car with this thing in it you better start growing a better memory on where you go and why so you can answer questions later. Also, they wont be asking you the same day you are driving around they will have the print out weeks later and call you in and have you start explaining your movements.
Parking the car in one spot doesnt work either. Add in the in car cameras and the microphone attached to your vest and you may as well request to partner up with a defense attorney.
After 129 posts to this thread, it appears that only "anonymous" at 12:58 PM has a clue as to how the city will abuse AVL/GPS technology to fuck with selected officers. It's called "disparate treatment".
It will be clout infested in its application, just like promotions, assignments, other disciplinary actions, awards, extradepartmental education and assorted perks based on almighty CLOUT.
First, I envision that neither bosses nor certain select city-wide units packed with clout babies will be monitored.
For arguendo, assume that the devices will only affect district patrol and apolitical detectives who won't tolerate the city's corrupt management.
Officer "A" and his partner are both dog-asses but they are heavier than whale shit. They spend most of the midnight tour cooped up in some desolate graveyard or industrial area. On all watches, they make frequent two hour stops at the homes of girlfriends and go shopping outside district/area boundaries.
Meanwhile, Officer "B" and his partner are outstanding police officers who are constantly making "on view" Part I felony arrests between radio assignments. However, management consider these officers as "loose cannons" who refuse to accept deeply entrenched clout and corruption. They are outspoken. They "rock the boat". They are potential whistleblowers.
On rare occasions after working their asses off, they may take a lunch break or run a personal errand outside their ghetto district. RIP 'EM! It's the Chicago Way.
All of you know that command will harass Officer "B", maybe even seek separation.
Will it be a coincidence that any monitored trangressions by Officer "A" will be ignored?
I think not. You are dealing with ruthless, treacherous cocksuckers who would throw you under the bus in a heartbeat for "making waves".
More than ever before, this whole miserable job is based on CLOUT! Excellence is meaningless.
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Department morale is non-existent. Some magnanimous optimists use the analogy of the Titanic, saying that the CPD is "a sinking ship". Au contraire. The CPD, like the Titanic, may as well be resting on the bottom of the North Atlantic. FUBAR.
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While Weis may be an abysmal failure to date, he has a long way to go to surpass the despised LeRoy Martin in the "worst ever" category.
The tragic thing is that like many of you, I was actually naive enough to believe that as an outsider, Weis would actually bring reforms to this clusterfick of CLOUT. Bad me.
Did Walsh construction get the GPS contract?
The history of GPS tracking in the Department has been for only one purpose, and that is to gather evidence against a Department Member who has been "alleged of wrongdoing." In almost all of these cases, the members were clear of any wrongdoing according to the GPS, however, the Department in it's wisdom for the trouble they put forth, hammered these members for whatever rule or order violation they could mold to fit their investigation to justify the effort. If it was truly for officer safety, the technology is available to GPS radios, and that should've been the method used. Fortunately for us, because the City sucks at keeping up with bills, and we always buy crappy stuff anyway, whatever system is in place, will fail most times. Stay Safe.
Anonymous said...
Dating back to as far 1837 when this department started. This Department has done fine without having GPS Or our DNA samples. So why now? This is a complete crock of BULL$HIT!!! Just another case of how a couple bad apples screw it up for the masses and how the city folds for and bends over and takes it in the a$$ for people who shouldnt but do call the shots!
9/05/2008 08:05:00 AM
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Well GOODY TWO SHOES.........
If you haven't figured it out yet bad apples or NOT! They DON'T trust any of us NO MATTER HOW MUCH ASS SUCKING and hanging of other coppers you do or pushing beat cars doing your job or how perfect you think you are because you are SGT. material and not merit......etc. etc.
FACT IS someone else SOLD out on these ideas to someone else bad apple or not and now it is time for the REAL micro managing to begin.
RULE 14 or whatever they want to use against you is now why they are stacking the deck (or their cases) against any of us when they want to because NOW they can catch you with your pants down and as you fail to document your every move they catch u in a lie and you are stripped and done!
Best of luck everyone, DO A HUMPER whether you are a supervisor or not for your own good just in case.
I said it once before ....this department is in a "go to well" mindset now. Meaning get RID OF EM and we will just "go to the well" and find another one better or that will fit or that we can MOLD!
Keep the Academy filled? But get rid of them their too as they are prejudged by the staff there too.
NO MORE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT WE ARE ALL SHITHEADS NOW!
Anonymous said...
If the device records your location at a specific time different than where the accuser claims, the AVL information will be crucial in challenging the accusation. The AVL technology will back you up.
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how will this help in a shooting or other high priority call? How will the CAR locate an injured officer?
9/05/2008 07:00:00 AM
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It won't.
GPS = slower police service. I will not speed or blow lights or signs like Old Schoolers did. I will stop and wait like everyone else.
When the citz that got robbed ask what took so long, I will give him details of how f-ed up this Dept has become.
You are welcome.
off topic i had the best welcoming gift from 019th district, i just moved to the 019th district and i was with my mother is who was driving, we again were both new to the neighborhood and my mom did not see the stop sign until the last second she stopped but just not behind the crosswalk sign. so we were pulled over by beat 1995 3rd watch #19934 well and once he finished talking i asked him if i could ask him a question, he replied in a cocky tone but i still held my cool i told him that i was an off duty and we were both new to the neighborhood and that we were sorry but we did not see the stop sign until the last minute and if he would accept professional courtesy at which point he replied "im writing your mother" so i said ok have a nice day... the point of the story is that yes maybe she did not stop completely but my point is that i cannot believe this copper refused to give professional courtesy and had no respect for another copper. this was a great welcoming to the 019th district thanks beat 1995 3rd watch.. i will always give professional courtesy to all coppers regardless of this tool.
The University of Chicago Police have been using this for years and it is used to enhance patrol. Sgts/WC's activate the system during an in progress call and can tell were all cars were during the call. If your off your beat you explain why. If the car is stationary at lets say a mall, and your inside shopping and getting your eyebrows tweezed, you got to do some splainin. So beware, all you shoppin ass biotches, this is for you not the working police.
And where would they get the amount of manpower they would need to sit and analyze all of the gps reports with all of the unit's humpers day after day?
The DOC -- it is DEPLOYMENT OPERATIONS, right??
What's everyone worried about? Just look at the dept's history on buying and running hardware. The new radios......batteries last only 6.5 hrs before they start chirping. First generation car computers, the one's that we were all told were the best money could buy. Boy, you can take them out of your car and into a job. First time I tried that the battery died in 5 mins.
The In-Car Cameras. In 024 you keep getting an error message "Server Not Connect" so you cannot upload your video.
The dept will do what it has always done......spend buku bucks on getting the equipment and zip on the personnel and equipment to keep them running. Besides, if you put the car down and get a pool car, it won't have GPS installed.
Anonymous said...
I for one don't care for GPS. They can install it on any department vehicle I drive. In fact j fed can ride along in the back seat. For the last 20 year I have always been where I was suppose to be. If doing wrong you deserve what you get.
9/05/2008 06:25:00 AM
Hey stupidfucker, next time you head across the beat to get a cup of coffee without clearing that bullshit burglar alarm you were just on and get buttfucked by your boss, remember the your ignorance.
And maybe when you park that fucking car you're driving because you're tired from having to work 2 jobs and your boss comes riding up your ass and tells you you've been parked there for 15 minutes when your status is clear and fucks you over for sitting still while on duty, remember how much of a fucking clueless idiot you are that can't see past the two seconds of thought you put into your moronic post here, dumbfuck.
""I'm just a civilian.... In other words, it has been used for company and driver defense, not to spy on drivers. That said, who knows what CPD plans to do with it? ....it operates 24 hours a day on all cars- no one has the manpower to check all the AVL's all the time- so it's unlikely anyone's going to spy on you""
Thanks for your input, however never underestimate the amount of time and manpower the CPD has available to F*^%^K with people. We know exactly what they will do with it and can guarantee you it will not be used to help us.
How about posting who you work for, sounds like a better job.
Oprah proves Racism alive and well in the good ole USA. Obama on the show not once but twice. Producers snag Palin for a show OPRAH throws a fit.. Never ever ask about Husein Obamas oponents to be on the show... now all is well and everyone who wants to keep their job at HARPO studios is saying it never happened everyone except those in Palins camp who scheduled the show.. I love it can she be more obvious..
Palatine has had this for years.Talked to an ex-Palatine copper, he said it sucked on Midnights if vehicle did not move dispatcher was asking why.It will be put in place to use to fuck you whenever the need arises.
OK, here is the TRUE STUFF: Sgts. can't I repaet Can't track you from thier PDT, they first said that we could when they installed the GPS in SOS cars, We can only track from a desk top in any station. I used to tell my team, Fuck the GPS, just put yourself dowen anytime you need to leave your mission area. let me know and I would Put it on my log, Yes it can be used to jam you if you are into wrongdoing but a few times it actually save my guys. Example a W/C from 5 called me into the station and had a citizen there who said one of my cars took his keys, I took the info, went to the computer and found that the car was never int the area where it alledgely happened, I'm by no means a supporter of GPS, as I had it on my car too. PS. all cars these days even your own private car have a black box in it, it records your spped at the time of impact in accidents. So don't fear the GPS. Learn to deal with it, there is nothing we can do to prevent its coming.
"Thats not all. I was told by a source that the city is putting specs together to go out for bid for some new radio for all of us to use and they will also all have GPS built right into the radio. This way they will always know where you and your partner are.
Big Brother is looking out for are safety.lol"
This is true. Each radio will have gps some day but battery technology still hasn't made it feasible yet. Yet.
Also realize you are probably the last department to get gps so the whining falls on deaf ears.
Let me see... I want to roll out gps but would like to avoid the backlash so I'll roll out gps with some kind of dna sampling which will send people through the roof to get the focus off the gps.
CPD, not easily supervised but easily led.
Now get in your cruiser! GET! IN! YOUR! CRUISER!
Many years ago I Buccal Swabbed my children, wife and myself. The kits are stored in a safe secure place, and my relatives know where to find them if the need arises.
If the City was concerned about identifying your remains(which they could care less) they'd supply you with the kit for you to keep.
The City doesn't give two shits about you while you are alive, what makes you think they care about us when were dead?
WRONG,Leroy Martin was an ignorant prick,but not half the jag-off this prick is.
To the next ball-less prick who says on here ,Do your job or leave,I have been for almost 30 years , so fuck you,the bullshit these asshole are pulling now is just a way to fuck with us.If you think OHH I super-cop am doing my job,no one will hurt me! You got a lot to learn punk.Again I say FUCK YOU. Or is this just Jody ?
Anonymous said...
I can understand the concern about the potential for the use of GPS to track the location and speed of cops on duty. I would not get too concerned. A LOT of employers use GPS in company owned vehicles to track employees. it just another tool for managers and supervisors.
*** You mus tbe a tool supervisor. Most jobs don't require split second life and dead decisions that will be monday moring QB'ed in IAD and federal court!
Look at it this way. There is no way they can spend the time to look at records of everyone in a squad car every day. It will mostly be used where there is some suspicion or allegation of wrong doing,
**** Ya well they probably won't tell you inadvance that they are suspicious of you will they, "boss"?
With this technology every exempt with their Department issued laptop or desktop will be able to monitor locations of cars whether at the office or at home.
Can you picture it? Car XX or the District Commander sitting at home eating dinner monitoring the locations of cars?
With the proper access codes this is do-able.
Like to see this AVL placed on the Department website for the public to see. How long till the public outcry is heard from the residents of 008 or 016 when they see where the cars are?
To :9/05/2008 09:25:00 AM
Suburbs are not the City of Chicago Lamebrain! Where are you writing from...some farm in Kansas? This is the big city with big city problems.
Why don't you move to the south or west side of Chicago and see if you want your coppers, especially detectives, gang & tact muzzled? We are already losing this city to savages, corrupt pols & stupid merit pukes.
Move there or Detroit, it's about the same. There's a grey area in the ghetto or all the good people might as well move. Anyone who doesn't get that is a fool.
- not a cop, just not a complete idiot
The more I read this Blog and realize How stupid you goofs are I say to this department fuck Them over they like it. Worried about this shit when The economy is tanking, Fanny may and freddie mack is going to be taken over by the government on Tuesday. Never mind a recession we may have a depression. Children
Our new (2004) Police ID has a "super top secret microchip" implanted in it. It is just awaiting activation.
You have all been warned!
1995, 3rd is a big jagoff!!! The guy is like 5'01" and thinks his shit don't stink. Also be careful, he'll write you a DUI in a heart beat. I would love to kick him like Kevin Butler kicked a football.
Northside,
I agree Leroy was a jag as sup but I think Matt, The Rat, Rodriguez was the worst. He did his best to cut the balls out of this Dept with CAPS and together we can. I remember when he said he would fire any of us who raised their baton to hit someone during the DNC in 1996.
Actually the GPS unit be a source of amusement if you use it right.
Like say getting 2 squad cars and driving down the street side-by-side at EXACTLY 30 mph....during morning rush hour. Maybe 26 mph would be better. Non 10-1 emergency calls, top out at 30 mph. Be there when you get there.
Anybody passes you, they are speeding and/or driving left of center.
The safety issue is total Bullshit. It has never been needed before, so why is it critical now? Does someone need a contract?
Off your beat: tagged.
No more staying down and sliding over to lunch location.
Glad I have only a short time left....
Well five more shot in Englewood tonight with one dead,keep up the good work boys.
True story, when the first unit in the city to get GPS installed was SOS, right before they were dismantled, Fleet Management notified the Office of the Mayor that they had the GPS units ready to be installed in the two cars the Mayor uses for transportation.
The Mayor himself shitcanned that idea because he didn't want to be tracked. The police and OEMC wanted it so they could know the location of the Mayor at all times for safety and security reasons.
The Mayor was having none of it because it could track his every move and leave a paper trail of his movements. It is good enough for Fire and Police and countless other city workers but not hizzoner, Mayor Richard M. Daley. He flat refused to allow his limos to be wired for GPS.
This is true, a good reporter might find the people over at Fleet Management who do the GPS work on the executive fleet and maybe one might confirm this story. I learned this from a very well placed source. This is the truth.
1995 3rd watch in 19 dist wrote me a few years back even after I told him I was an offduty police officer. his remark was I write everyone even police officers and there family.
I really fail to see what the problem is with GPS. The city owns those cars, they have a right to know where they are at all times, no matter the reason.
Garbage trucks have them, fire trucks, ambulances, bread trucks, beer trucks. Jesus Christ, to even think that police officers were not also going to get GPS is simply ludicrous.
What might officers be afraid of, that they might have to give 8 hours work for 8 hours pay? Jeez, what a concept. totally foreign to the CPD no doubt.
Once again, go to work, do your job, there is no problem.
1. Someone needs to name this 1995 3rd Watch in 019. Whoever he is he can go fuck himself. One day, muthatfucka...one day.
2. Food for thought. Anyone who has been in the military in the past ten years has their DNA stored in the CODIS database.
3. How long do you all think these GPS systems are going to work? About as long as the rest of these pieces of shit equipment they give us...in-car-cameras are going down all the time, PDTs suck, radios suck, cars suck. Plus I'm sure the manufacturer is some fly-by-night company with connections to the Daley family or the HDO, so once they go out of business, forget about ever fixing them.
4. Remember, the City and the Department are big, clumsy, stupid bureaucracies. Do not fear them for they are not as dangerous as they appear.
anonymous said...
Dating back to as far 1837 when this department started. This Department has done fine without having GPS Or our DNA samples. So why now? This is a complete crock of BULL$HIT!!! Just another case of how a couple bad apples screw it up for the masses and how the city folds for and bends over and takes it in the a$$ for people who shouldnt but do call the shots!
9/05/2008 08:05:00 AM
There were coppers who cried foul when they did away with call boxes and installed radios in the cars. Cut down on the graft opportunities.
Then the city gave us hand held radios, I know coppers, one retired earlier this year, who till the day they left refused to carry a radio and kept theirs off their whole tour. If the partner didn't listen they got red lined. This also is an example of old time coppers. Not all were hard chargers bent on ridding the city of crime. I know of coppers who stopped writing tickets and complained bitterly about not being able to steal a couple of hundred a day any more. That was in the late 1980's and very early 1990's. Not all that long ago.
It all is a matter of perspective I guess.
So when I hit a "perp" with my "cruiser" while driving "code 3" will CSI use my DNA and GPS data to take to the DA?
STOP SAYING CRUISER! STOP!
PS. all cars these days even your own private car have a black box in it, it records your spped at the time of impact in accidents. So don't fear the GPS. Learn to deal with it, there is nothing we can do to prevent its coming.
9/05/2008 10:27:00 PM
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Insurance companies pull that black box info off private cars all the time. It tells the last thirty seconds or so of your driving 'experience'... speed, accelerating or braking, air bag deployment, seat belt on and locked in place or not. You lie, they won't pay.
I think all members who have inside spots in the department, civilian and sworn, should wear a gps ankle bracelet for their own safety. What if another member of this department falls off his chair while going through archives in the basement of headquarters? He could starve to death by the time somebody finds him.
Gps bracelets for desk personnel=officer safety first.
To SOS who experienced gps: What disciplinary actions were taken against officers who got caught up in some type of gps violation?
Where is all that money for the gps's coming from?
And who is it going to?
Northside makes excellant point about going after good coppers with a brick on them.
Leroy Martin was the worst sup, hands down.
There were coppers who cried foul when they did away with call boxes and installed radios in the cars. Cut down on the graft opportunities.
Then the city gave us hand held radios, I know coppers, one retired earlier this year, who till the day they left refused to carry a radio and kept theirs off their whole tour. If the partner didn't listen they got red lined. This also is an example of old time coppers. Not all were hard chargers bent on ridding the city of crime. I know of coppers who stopped writing tickets and complained bitterly about not being able to steal a couple of hundred a day any more. That was in the late 1980's and very early 1990's. Not all that long ago.
It all is a matter of perspective I guess.
9/05/2008 11:57:00 PM
WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU VOMIT AND SPILL YOUR SKEWED IMPRESSION OF YESTERYEAR ON THIS FORUM? YOU ARE ONE DUMB FUCK.
Anonymous said...
To 9/04 @ 12:03...You are a typical lazy ass jagoff copper!!
Most of the people who post on this blog repeadedly are the same type of Lazy Ass Jagoff Coppers like this poster....but when they need something they better get all the help they demand....right?? Gang bangers on my block can you have tact go there and lock them up?? They are sellin weed from a house on my block can you have tact watch it?? I saw pookie in my neighborhood can the beat car cruise around?? FUCK YOU COP why don't you do it yourself?? You big mouth Lazy Jagoff!! You are they exact type of person who needs to get jammed up or resign...you're a do nothing...You want everything and give nothing...except when you need it...I have 15 years on this job and I come to work every day and have a blast...Yes I am a supervisor and if you worked for me I would make damn sure that you do something dogass... I don't give a flying fuck if they put a GPS on my car and attach a weather baloon to it...who gives a fuck....it will not stop me from being the police...I will just use my brain and do my job...the job I get paid to do right?? Oh and I bet you have one of those "evil" cameras too??? The kind that record everything you do...or don't do....in your case...GPS is great for dogasses like you who don't do anything because people like me can make you work and shut your big ignorant mouth...I am so fucking fed up with this whining bullshit...the city will do whatever it wants to do it's their fucking cars...just go and do your job...stop the whining already and earn your pay of fucking resign jerkoff....I am sure you will respond with all of your words of wisdom and reasons not to work and how you have been fucked etc...I have been in federal court 8 times killed several offenders and still do my job...so before you start with the lawsuits and CR#'s...save it hero..do the job or quit..plain and simple...let me end with this...if your own mother needed police service and a dogass like you responded to her would you be happy?? what is it that you need to be so fucking disgruntled about...any of you?? You have a job unlike any other...try this shit at Target or Jewel...you'd be gone in less than a month...Now shut the fuck up and do your job.
9/05/2008 07:19:00 PM
Without a doubt this enormous run-on sentence full of gibberish is the product of the same blithering idiot Sergeant who has been blasted here before for similar gung-ho holier than thou comments. The same goof who would have us all believe he can single-handedly clean up this town and has already done it before. Ranting away anonymously here isn't a very effective method of supervising, is it boss? Are you getting a lot accomplished?
Sarge, I actually have to thank you for the laughs. I picture you in your jammies all angry and red faced typing away furiously on your keyboard while chomping Toprol pills to keep those bulging blood vessels on your forehead from popping. I imagine the Star Spangled Banner playing in the background and an 8x10 picture of Rambo kept on your desk for inspiration.
While comical, I actually feel sorry for you. With all of the traps and treachery our department is dealing out you obviously can't or won't adapt. The environment we live and work in shapes us. Smart coppers adapt to change in order to survive. If you can't adapt to survive in your environment you'll fade away just like all the other dinosaurs that have come and gone before you.
Yep, you just plain don't get it. All I can do is shake my head and feel sorry for you. And chuckle.
?? what is it that you need to be so fucking disgruntled about...any of you?? You have a job unlike any other...try this shit at Target or Jewel...you'd be gone in less than a month...Now shut the fuck up and do your job.
9/05/2008 07:19:00 PM
YES LADIES AND GENTS, THIS IS ONE OF OUR FINEST BOSSES AT HIS BEST!!!!!
Do us a favor, company suck-hole, while youre out there, doing "Police Work", and then shit hits the fan, DONT CALL US! But looking at your post, you must be Superman, so you dont need us. In between your temper-tantrums, breaking your arm patting yourself on the back, bothering us, and being a total jag-off, try and time to GO FUCK YOURSELF!
Has anyone been f'd over that has GPS? I know several with take home cars that are so equipted.When off duty their car is used like it was their personal car. Some even use them for their second job.
"Oprah proves Racism alive and well in the good ole USA. Obama on the show not once but twice. Producers snag Palin for a show OPRAH throws a fit.. Never ever ask about Husein Obamas oponents to be on the show... now all is well and everyone who wants to keep their job at HARPO studios is saying it never happened everyone except those in Palins camp who scheduled the show.. I love it can she be more obvious..."
WAAAH! Guess what? SCC gets to decide what he (they) want to post on THEIR blog. I guess Oprah has the same right to do whatever she wants to on HER show. No difference!
019 is a fucking joke! I'm not the least bit shocked you got a ticket from that jag-bag. The last time I've seen a squad car in my area was a sgt. and he was writing city sticker violations the day after the deadline! Don't worry, this jag-bag must live in one of the twenty-five districts and I'm sure drives a car. Just find out which one and return the favor.
Well I guess it's tit for tat! We don't trust them and they don't trust us! This shit is getting stuck on so many shoes that this department will never recover.
If it's true that these things can track speed, anyone still thinking about getting into a car chase better reread the order on chases and levels of speed allowed.
The Sgt is Right "Shut up and do your job" some of us are sick of you Small Pee Pee Guys crying all the Damn time. Good for you Sgt.
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