Not One New Car?
True or false?
- O/T A lot of exempts got new cars this year. How many new marked cars hit the streets? Oh thats right; none, zero. Fleet didn't purchase one new car for patrol this years. The few 08's out there were purchased last year in 07.
We did notice that fewer than normal new cars showed up this year. We know that Fleet canceled an order for Crown Vics after Ford reported they were discontinuing the model, shifting the Department focus to Tahoes instead.
But not even spending a dime on new cars? One hundred fifty recruits in the face of six hundred retirements. No contract raises. Aren't those Olympics paid for yet?
UPDATE: A lot of people saying we're mistaken as to the discontinuation of the Crown Vics. We thought we recalled that was one of the reasons given for canceling the order of cars this year, but it seems our memory is faulty. The fact remains that we've had few if any cars delivered at all this year. Fleet sucks ass.
But not even spending a dime on new cars? One hundred fifty recruits in the face of six hundred retirements. No contract raises. Aren't those Olympics paid for yet?
UPDATE: A lot of people saying we're mistaken as to the discontinuation of the Crown Vics. We thought we recalled that was one of the reasons given for canceling the order of cars this year, but it seems our memory is faulty. The fact remains that we've had few if any cars delivered at all this year. Fleet sucks ass.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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best police car ever crown vic, tahoe will never properly replace it
my car has157k and the ac didn't work the whole summer. can't wait for the winter
Has anyone else noticed the pick-up trucks bearing Streets n San or Water Management with Indiana license plates?
YEP Ive seen 3 at the gas pumps at North n Throop and 37th n Iron. Joey n Guido sporting their Obama buttons said that Fleet isnt buying new vehicles they are leasing them from Enterprise.
Did I mention that City vehicles with NO City Stickers with Indiana Plates.
In true Chicago fashion- do as I say not as I do. Somebody call the Inspector Generals Office.
As an old time exempt member told me once, there is more in-fighting at HQ about who gets a new car, what color the pin stripping is and where their parking space is than any conversation about the good of this department. Let's face it, most exempts are pompus no-brain assholes. Most of whom should of never even been promoted to the level of detective let alone an exempt position.
This whole job has become a joke. Even when we get nes vehicles at the district level, the D/C and all his little inside asskissers are given new cars they hardly use because they are never on the street as they pass the shit cars down to the working cops.
After 16 years I have become a big fan of do nothing more than you are told to do. Being a hero on this job will get you nothing usless your a boss licker to boot.
i want a new police cruiser!
That sucks. The Tulsa Police Department got around 12 marked and 4 unmarked Dodge Chargers and 6 or so marked Dodge Magnums, all 6.1 Hemis, of course. My next door neighbor is soldiering on with his Crown Vic.
ECS
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Its even worse with the the wagons. In some districtslike 007, at least one wagon is a beat car.
WTF
SCC, this one just about slipped under the radar... J-Fed is making the switch to SUV's because he says that they are better in the snow, better gas mileage, and that the troops really want them... or is it because... Ford is NOT MAKING THE CROWN VIC ANYMORE?!? He has been touting this as a major decision, when Ford made the decision by discontinuing the cars! What gives?
Ford is not stopping the production of the CVPI. They are now only a FLEET vehicle, meaning the general public cannot order a brand new Vic. They have to get it from the Poser-R-Us places (like the ones in (013, 014 and 017). But, the Vic is still online for fleet production until 2012 (and I can't see them discontinue they bread and butter on the fleet market, that and they're planning a redesign).
-Someone in the know on FORD
Off Topic.
What is up with these idiots writing coppers and our families? We are working under shit conditions, without a contract, yet some continue to write movers to coppers and OUR families? If I pulled that shit, not that I would ever stoop so low, I would have the tires slashed on my personal car. I am not saying what district I work in, but obviously it isn't 019.
150 recruits of which M.T. will fire 80-90. And don't worry about the olympic funding. My money is on city hall fixing up O'Hare with the new runways and then leasing it off for let's say 100 billion or more....
did see some, 2 or 3, new Tauruses briefly at the Area 1 garage.
it takes alot of money to bribe the IOC!
"...best police car--crown vic..."
WRONG--best police car ever--Box Chevy.
"my car has157k and the ac didn't work the whole summer. can't wait for the winter
9/10/2008 12:30:00 AM"
When, of course, you'll discover that the heater blower craps out on you....
What about a Chrysler 300? More interior room, more power, AWD. Chrysler should make it a fleet vehicle.
The Tahoe is the biggest piece of shit out there. Whenever I see a civilian driving a GM vehicle, I feel a sense of disgust that I can barely contain. The Crown Vic is hardly better. And what good will a two wheel drive, rear wheel drive SUV do in the snow? I drove one last winter and it got stuck just as easy as a Ford does. In any case, a new vehicle would be nice, but why the hell waste money buying shitty new vehicles. Think outside the box! Toyota trucks are by far the best, even a Honda, Subaru, or Nissan SUV would be kick ass in the snow. The American auto worker is just as stupid as the Chicago City worker...entitled to everything, lazy, uneducated, and no work ethic. You get what you pay for.
The CVPI will be out of production in 2011; Ford is working feverishly to make the new Taurus the replacemetn for the CVPI.
To 12:48 AM. The city stickers that are put on department vehicles dont cost anything, except what they cost to produce.
How much sense does it make to charge each city department to purchase stickers for their vehicles? None. Where does the money come from to purchase said stickers? It comes from the city budget. What funds the budget? Partly the purchase by you and the rest of us of city stickers.
Maybe mayor shortshanks will require all PO's to but their own squad car stickers to help the budget crisis.
Anonymous said...
150 recruits of which M.T. will fire 80-90. And don't worry about the olympic funding. My money is on city hall fixing up O'Hare with the new runways and then leasing it off for let's say 100 billion or more....
9/10/2008 02:54:00 AM
Academy has around 115 recruits. Situps are extremely critical at academy. Fired for situps but not for poor performance. We do not need new recruits. Technology will fight crime. Or as the mayor said; it is the responsibility of community residents to stop crime.
The only reason the city is getting Tahoes is cause the manufacturer is giving them to the city for free (cause the suv market is falling) in hopes that the city starts changing their police fleet to Tahoes. Think about it it saves the manufacturer money, they can devote the plant to police fleet production and don't have to retool that plant. They could then focus other plants on greener vehicles.
The car makers are giving away gas guzzelers to police departments all around the country to save their asses.
Tahoes - given to city for free from car maker.
TARA - Dept of homeland Security grants, they pay the instructors salaries, and the salaries for the POs when they attend it as well as the overtime for POs who have to cover for the POs in training. They also pay the city rent for that rathole high school where they hold the training.
Fusion Center - Department of Homeland Security grant, again they pay for the equipment and personnel.
LIDAR - DUI grant, again they pay for the equipment, PO instructors and PO students salaries.
The department takes advantage of grants and donations, but budgets for all these POs who are getting covered by the Fed. Just look at at R&D they have five civilians who all they do is write grant proposals. So where is the budgeted money going?
And when is the fed going to ask: How many DUIs did you get with the LIDARs, How many terrorist cells have you exposed, etc...?
have an asshole copper from 004th district days who has been writing officers and their neighbors for parking on opposite side of small side streets,was confonted by officer and the jagoff said tough shit.
To 9/10 @ 12:28am..."Best police car ever crown vic"????? You must be a new kid...LMFAO...The BEST police car ever was the Chevy "box" Impala.....You could drive that thing through a wall and it wouldn't stop!! The Impala was literally a tank!!
https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/2008fleetshowroom/2008-CrownVictoria.asp Ford will keep the making the vic for police,taxi, all fleet! The bosses all got new cars,eddie burk, the treasuer, the city clerk, the mayors complete detail, plus more! Look at the front line cars on 51st these are the highest royal turn ins some have 3-8K miles still new, but the kings need new cars at all times, and they never use old lights and sirens always brand new shit! Why does burke and the treasuer need new cars? Do they have GPS? Thought not! Maybe daleys guys could get toyota prius hybrid sedans, no guess not the fatass commnader sammy could never fit!
I am a city manager for a larger Southwest suburban municipality and i can tell you, since I am the one that ordersthe things for my police department, Ford is making the CVPI at least through the 2010 model year. The only glitch this year with then though, if you want to call it a glitch, is that if you ordered the 2008 models in late production, those orders were delayed by Ford, and in most cases you should be receiving the 2009 models for the 2008 price.
Hey SCC, where did you get that Ford announced that they were discontinuing the Crown Vic/ police interceptor. Ford motor company will be building the CV/PI until at least 2011. You can go to "fleet.ford.com" click on police vehicles and see the 2009 model. The fact is that the dept. was 480 cars short when J fed came aboard. Fleet had an order with Ford for 300 cars which would have left the dept. 180 cars short. J Fed wanted Tahoes, the Mayor orders Fleet to cancel the Ford order and buy Tahoes. Fleet cancels the Ford order and places an order for 160 Tahoes which will leave the dept. 320 cars short. The order for Fords was canceled because J Fed wanted Tahoes not because Ford announced they were discontinuing the production of CV?PI. As for WAGONS, fleet let the contract for the purchase of new wagons expire. In order for fleet to buy wagons, specs have to be detailed and let out to bid. That process can take a year from start to finish. The rolling stock of the dept. is in sad shape and relief of the vehicle shortages is far in the distant future if ever. I am not optimistic that Fleet will ever get the police vehicles back to where it should be or where it was when it was controled by the police EMMD.
sent home last night because there was no available cars...so thank you big fucked up city for the free time off with pay...i'm sure the crack dealers and child rapist appreciate it also..
We were told by the front office yesterday to make sure no one parks in of garage doors so people can start installing GPS onto the beat cars in the next couple of days. I have to laugh, over 50% of our cars are pool cars. Go AHEAD Some day when we are not in a RAP somebody will be able to park their car for more than 10 minutes.......
My cruiser is still running like brand new. I keep it in tip top shape.
My Chevy Impala rules! i love when the check engine light comes on whenever it feels like. The transmission makes strange possessed random grinding noises. I did a traffic crash report the other day. By the time I was finished with the paper (not long either) I went to turn this fine machine back on and NOTHING! It only took R-service 2+ hours to show up and jump this high performance piece of dogshit.
This cannot be true!
Back in March, I was at the watch commanders meeting with the new Superintendent when Ted O'Keefe himself stated that he was in the process of updating our fleet of vehicles. He said we'd have them in a few months.
So if Ted ("Mayor's Boy") O'Keefe said it was going to happen, then dammit, it must have happened! Now quit with all this negativity.
they need to make a decision VERY SOON. we have at least 10+ pool cars that are poop. the areas have no pool cars and getting your regular car back would be a miricle.
my car has157k and the ac didn't work the whole summer. can't wait for the winter
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If the bastards at the garage refuse to fix the AC then just "down" it for something good like a blown engine.
Grinding compound fu%ks up a motor pretty damn good.
Its sad when you see some of the Fords that other departments put up for auction, they are in much better shape than the POS car I drive!
Must be nice working for a department that gives you a new car every two years and not having to wait for your junker to fall apart during an in progress call,
Hi People, Missy here.
I was away with my lawyer husband. He took me with him to NYC for a "woman rights seminar". Then to the annual A.C.L.U. awards presentation. No, my hubby did not get an award. He is just a card carrying member.
I seen many of the people here are writing nice things about me. To these many-many people, a "BIG-BIG THANK YOU & HUG".
You all know me to ne a parking ticket "GURU". Last night I was walking "Skippy", my baby shit-shu.
Well, I seen one of those "Revenue agents" on the 1400 block of North Dearborn. You people know me as a "People-Person" so we chatted.
What a nice person. I walked with her while she wrote and wrote. I got so-so excited watching her use that mini-computer ticket writer.
She got a good one. She pulled out her "ruler" and found that a car was to far from the curb. I was just in "AY".
We are friends now, and she told me that she writes 100 tickets a day. "For our beloved mayor".
When I told her I am a parking ticket "GURU" and wrote 300 to 500 parks a day, this nice lady nearly fainted. I told her my great uncle, Tom Byrne (rtd) will be getting a call from me about her. Uncle Tom, I bet will her promoted so she can lead by example like me.
Please-Please people, write an extra ten a day of parkers. The Mayor needs the $ to get this city out of the hole.
And for us getting a raise, I think we should just forget it until Mayor Daley gets on his feet with the city money problem.
One last thing, there is only one Missy here people.
Be safe people,
Missy 1st. district.
fleet guys told me that the 2009 Ford Taurus is a decent full size car but wont be for patrol. These cars are for Exempts and maybe a few will go to 35th street for admin coppers "The Real Police" Sorry Patrol.... unless your beat car reaches 200,000 miles there's no chance of a new car
Anonymous said...
best police car ever crown vic, tahoe will never properly replace it
Get Real...Box Chevy caprice..BEST. turns on a dime with big balls
Pay for GPS though!!! Pay to fuck over the working police!!! Hey since you are screwing us over, have fun paying all the victims families from all those homicides you morons in charge!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!
We all should have a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery long memory come a certain NOVEMBER NIGHT.Let them call private contractors to control the city and let the bosses do what most never did.We have to dance this political dance and my feet hurt.
"Has anyone else noticed the pick-up trucks bearing Streets n San or Water Management with Indiana license plates?"
This has been happening for years with S&S. They lease all of their heavy equipment and found substantial savings doing that. Now they're doing that with their lighter service vehicles. One thing that is being explored is the leasing of all city fleet vehicles. I doubt that they would do marked squads but the unmarked vehicles have been looked into.
Lies, lies, lies! I'm alderman Burke and I have a nice brand new car...so there!
my car has157k and the ac didn't work the whole summer. can't wait for the winter
9/10/2008 12:30:00 AM
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Pray for a long Fall, then, 'cause the HEAT probably won't work, either.
SCC, this one just about slipped under the radar... J-Fed is making the switch to SUV's because he says that they are better in the snow, better gas mileage, and that the troops really want them... or is it because... Ford is NOT MAKING THE CROWN VIC ANYMORE?!? He has been touting this as a major decision, when Ford made the decision by discontinuing the cars! What gives?
9/10/2008 02:03:00 AM
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No. It's just as simple as this. Chevy can't sell the gas guzzlers. Their sales are down something like 70%, so they're discounting them severely, just to move them out.
Jody can look like a hero, bringing the new ride to the streets for not much coin. CAPS, remember? Creating A Perception, Stupid. More smoke, many mirrors.
J-fed said at one of the meet and greets with the po's that 150 cars are on the way and they are paid for,so WTF j-fraud,were are the cars?were u lying?your just like the mayor,you should be ashamed,but we know you know your not,GFY
my wife just got a new car from rizza, i'm still drivin my 72 plymouth
anonymous said...
Has anyone else noticed the pick-up trucks bearing Streets n San or Water Management with Indiana license plates?
YEP Ive seen 3 at the gas pumps at North n Throop and 37th n Iron. Joey n Guido sporting their Obama buttons said that Fleet isnt buying new vehicles they are leasing them from Enterprise.
Did I mention that City vehicles with NO City Stickers with Indiana Plates.
In true Chicago fashion- do as I say not as I do. Somebody call the Inspector Generals Office.
9/10/2008 12:48:00 AM
You have a ticket book, don't you? need tickets, don't you? Start writing.
anonymous said...
i want a new police cruiser!
9/10/2008 12:58:00 AM
I want a pension and a moving van headed west out of Chicago. In two years I'll get it too, God willing and the creek don't rise.
best police car ever crown vic, tahoe will never properly replace it
9/10/2008 12:28:00 AM
Give me the old "Box Chevy" any day! However, the Cops that came on right before me will say the old Dodges/Chryslers. For me, Its the "Box"!
Ford is not stopping the production of the CVPI. They are now only a FLEET vehicle, meaning the general public cannot order a brand new Vic. They have to get it from the Poser-R-Us places (like the ones in (013, 014 and 017). But, the Vic is still online for fleet production until 2012 (and I can't see them discontinue they bread and butter on the fleet market, that and they're planning a redesign).
-Someone in the know on FORD
9/10/2008 02:21:00 AM
I'd be interested to know what they're doing as far as a redesign. As far as I can see, it'd have to simply be a refreshing as opposed to a whole new vehicle, as Ford doesn't have that much money for fleet vehicle product development, and the CV is very cheap for it's size (I've heard Ford can turn a $2k profit selling them at $18k).
my car has157k and the ac didn't work the whole summer. can't wait for the winter
Why in the hell didn't you get the AC fixed in the SPRING, bright boy?
Yesterday, several officers made mention if covert vehicles were to have GPS installed. Well I reached out to my C.I. at OEMC and he or she related that probably not. No GPS for the coverts. However, the C.I. explained that there are GPS systems that are portable and are secured under the dash of a car (such the case for a covert). Theses systems are not quite as good as the ones currently being installed in our broken down fleet (2,500 to be exact) but if the signal for help is given, the portable GPS will find you within a 100 foot area. (WOW)
Having explained this, the officers who have a covert, enjoy it. Burn the city's gas. I not envious of you if you earned it and have at least 15 years on, otherwise....well you got my message.
And don't worry about the olympic funding. My money is on city hall fixing up O'Hare with the new runways and then leasing it off for let's say 100 billion or more....
**Midway has already been leased, but the mayor will not make that public yet. He has to continue to cry poor but when the time comes for the olympics... Voila... he will have found a stash of cash.
best police car ever crown vic, tahoe will never properly replace it
in my opinion...best car ever was the bubble chevy squad car.. indestructable, big, dependable and was the fastest squad car ive ever driven.
How about when the Department had those Dodge Aspens with the huge engines. You could roll down the windows on the passenger side while you were driving. It was like having a girlfriend with huge tits. I loved taking that car through the car wash and having the Mars lights knocked off because it was such a goofy sized car.
best police car ever crown vic, tahoe will never properly replace it
9/10/2008 12:28:00 AM
I gotta go with the box Chevy. Good turning radius and pretty quick (but first you gotta kill the air).
How bout this.........A/2 garage had to down 4 cars yesterday from the watch.
Guess what....NO POOL CARS!!!!!!
What a way to run a railroad!!
My Commander got one of the new cruisers. He looks spiffy in it.
two comments, first. We used to get anywhere from 300 to 500 cars a year, so that means a lot of money has gone missing, AGAIN!
secondly, wasn't Enterprise involved in a big scandle connected with city hall many years ago? Maybe the good old boys are resurfacing again.
1.) Ford is not discontinuing the Crown Vic police car. Its a good vehicle and a good seller.
2.) They're getting the Tahoes for next to nothing because the public doesn't want them anymore. It is also a good vehicle with very comparable mileage to the Fords. They are more expensive to repair though.
It would be good for us to get either, as long as they're new.
Just look at at R&D they have five civilians who all they do is write grant proposals. So where is the budgeted money going?
And when is the fed going to ask: How many DUIs did you get with the LIDARs, How many terrorist cells have you exposed, etc...?
9/10/2008 09:46:00 AM
They have only 1 person working in the grant section for the past 6months or so. They keep quitting, and the hall does all the hiring. So you know how well thats going.
When you apply for a grant, there are reporting requirements for statistics. But if you write well, DC is satisfied and will continue to give you more money. They are only concerned about misappropriation of funds.
"...I got so-so excited watching..."
I just wrote the name 'Missy' on the forehead of my inflatable.
Without using a pen.
Anonymous said...
Just look at at R&D they have five civilians who all they do is write grant proposals. So where is the budgeted money going?
And when is the fed going to ask: How many DUIs did you get with the LIDARs, How many terrorist cells have you exposed, etc...?
9/10/2008 09:46:00 AM
LIDAR uses federal DUI money but they have nothing to do with DUI enforcement. Most of the LIDAR unit are not trained in DUI. That is a complete fraud. Traffic receives millions of dollars in grant money from IDOT and Feds. Where is the over sight?
"They are only concerned about misappropriation of funds.
9/11/2008 12:09:00 AM"
'If I don't see it, it didn't happen.'
'Oh, and I'm not looking.'
Uncle Sam
I was in public housing and the cars we had all had holes in the floorboards. I could see the street under us as we drove............but then again we could smash the shit outtathose cars and no one gave a shit.......GOD I MISS THOSE CARS...........
sent home last night because there was no available cars...so thank you big fucked up city for the free time off with pay...i'm sure the crack dealers and child rapist appreciate it also..
Seriously!!! As much as anyone would want a free day off with pay, they had no work for you to do even at the station. No doubling up with someone, no driving a car which does not get a lot of use regularly. Wow!!!
Anonymous said...
two comments, first. We used to get anywhere from 300 to 500 cars a year, so that means a lot of money has gone missing, AGAIN!
secondly, wasn't Enterprise involved in a big scandle connected with city hall many years ago? Maybe the good old boys are resurfacing again.
9/10/2008 10:01:00 PM
Yes enterprise was involved in a scandal guess your right "the envelope please"!
G P S....is here we know where you are SCC and Det. Longshavedcock
we are coming for you!
old guy in 015
The best cpd squad { box chevy impala }
1 am radio - hay at least it worked
2 milk crate to hold up your seat-lever would always break that held seat in up right position.
3 fastest car i ever drove on this job !!!
never lost a hot car in a chase ** oh yeah thats when we were still the police **
4 nice trunk space for the beer and ice on those long hot summer days !!!! for you bosses who remember those days you still owe me a six pack !!!! for you young coppers tooo bad you weren't around.
"we are coming for you!
9/11/2008 01:00:00 PM"
Why not make it 'I', and show the world how big your balls really are.
I happened to have to go to A/1 Garage and on the east side of the radio shop lot there were about 6-8
black 2008 Tauras' parked there. I think they are going to the D units. but they also had a load of what they call front line crown Vics. These are cars used for the bossess when thier regular cars are down, What about the men in blue, I'm an older Sgt. who cares about the guys.
Anonymous said...
sent home last night because there was no available cars...so thank you big fucked up city for the free time off with pay...i'm sure the crack dealers and child rapist appreciate it also..
9/10/2008 11:30:00 AM
Outside #3399, driver's door can't be opened from inside or out. Guess that car will last forever, at 102 K miles. No-body wants to drive a death trap, Ergo - no additional miles.
Anonymous said...
I happened to have to go to A/1 Garage and on the east side of the radio shop lot there were about 6-8
black 2008 Tauras' parked there. I think they are going to the D units. but they also had a load of what they call front line crown Vics. These are cars used for the bossess when thier regular cars are down, What about the men in blue, I'm an older Sgt. who cares about the guys.
9/11/2008 09:03:00 PM
The cars are "spares" for the bosses and burke's and daley's + the tresurers (whoever that is), all have very low mileage and are fully equipped but you must be "elite" to drive it! More daley bullshit! Hey boss could you free up thse cars? Thanks in advance!
I'm lovig this Missy shit ---is she for real like Hitney???
From good source....every district is getting 6 Tahoes....they are at 51st street getting striped....ALL Tahoes will go to patrol...also....40 unmarked...20 clown cars(Impalas) and 20 Fords.
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