Police Shooting - 007
And the offender jumped out of the car armed with...
- A RIFLE
Gee, who'd have thought a rifle would have appeared on the streets of Chicago?
Oh yeah, that would be SCC, most of our readers, and anyone with half a fucking brain.
Cops OK, bad guy critical, altar boy photos being fed to the media as we speak.
UPDATE: Bad guy dead, weapon recovered. Someone is claiming it wasn't a rifle. Some other anti-police asshat is claiming since 007 handled it with pistols, no one ever needs rifles again.
UPDATE II: Shots fired at/by the police in 011?
Oh yeah, that would be SCC, most of our readers, and anyone with half a fucking brain.
Cops OK, bad guy critical, altar boy photos being fed to the media as we speak.
UPDATE: Bad guy dead, weapon recovered. Someone is claiming it wasn't a rifle. Some other anti-police asshat is claiming since 007 handled it with pistols, no one ever needs rifles again.
UPDATE II: Shots fired at/by the police in 011?
Labels: shooting
posted by SCC at 5:24 PM
69 Comments:
Homey on ABC syating..."day shot the wrong shorty, I mean guy. He had no gun".
Here we go folks. Stay safe!
Yeah, and they're not giving M4's to everyone. I'm in great shape, but even fatties have the right to defend themselves. Fat or not, they still put their lives on the line everyday for these fucking animals.
Nice shot officer!!! When will these stupid shitheads learn?? Pull a gun on a police officer and you probably will die!! Good guys win again... Think this helps our shithead mayors olympic bid??
1815 hours...shots fired at the police at iowa and hamlin...more to come..
Be safe out there!!
Just saw on the news that the poor honor roll alter boy died. And the worst part of it is there are witnesses that say the poor victim wasn't armed when the poleeses done murdered that boy. Where in the hell do they find these people. Wanna know why you live in englewood you scumbag, because you're to fucking lazy to get a job.
Glad coppers are ok, great job. Now off topic everyone has to check out this link. If u want some funny reverend shit, this is classic. its about 8 min long, and quite amusing. www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr09-03-08.html
ABC news puts the most ignorant ghetto rat on the air to just say whatever. If the news is going to "interview" these goofs they could at least ask some questions to show the world that they are just making shit up.
was on the scene of the shooting, car full of bad guys shoots one person, beat car gets flash sees car they bail one copper grabs guy he got a gun his partner sees this and shoots bad guy right through the heart, bad guy dies at hospital
Media likes to show victims as "alter boys", even if they were selling crack and tar on streets.
So let's see this from "media" view:
* Guns are bad - ban guns - already happened in Chicago
* Police are criminals with trigger-happy fingers - ban police - ??
Media wants to create the real wild west. They will take a french poodle and make a dangerous rottweiler out of it, because it has teeth.
As usual, a bunch of alleged witnesses claiming the same ole thing........Da Polices shot da wrong boy......day shoot him in da back and he ain't have no gun! Once again, that's probably why the old timers always said....."Kid, take your time, I only have a couple of years until I retire!" They knew it wasn't worth it because as much as those pastors cry, "They be killin our childrens", obviously they only care until the police shoot one of theirs after he had the audacity to point a rifle at them. This is the most thankless job in the world.....damned if you do and damned if you don't. Let them police themselves and everyone should go work on the north side !
SCC, please at least post this here..
EVERYONE PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgwfVJIoBNM&NR=1
Now is no time to wait for the department to provide us with anything..Find training where you can..Imagine you're on the scene with a copper who has passed the power test to carry an M-4, yet he goes down and you're still under fire..You going to leave that rifle lay there..????? GET TRAINED ON YOUR OWN..
Sgt O'Brien
006
Please get it straight. It was a handgun
People are getting wise to the "ghetto lottery" BS. The same BS time and gain and the same mouthpiece Revuns yapping it up in front of the cameras to instigate their polictical base.
Glad the PO's are okay and the bad guy gone.
That's the media's style. Finding anybody that will talk to them. No verification if the facts are true or not. Just babble!
The detectives have several credible witnesses to back the officers and that's all that matters.
3rd watch captain skinhead was out there shouting out conflicting commands until Mike Sheilds got there. I did not know he could suck-up so well.
Rifles in a squad car are a good Idea......
Rifles unloaded and locked in a trunk will get someone KILLED. Why would anyone buy off on an rifle locked in a trunk is beyound me. We see it time and time again........ man w a gun call and the cars pull right up to the scene....... now think about what would happen if the P.O. had to go to the trunk, open it, remove the rifle, remove the flag safety insert a magazine and charge the weapon???? 99% of the time no problem 1 % on a real call and an active shooter........... you have a dead P.O.
"And the worst part of it is there are witnesses that say the poor victim wasn't armed when the poleeses done murdered that boy."
Yeah that Drop Rifle I carry in my Pants really tears up the BVDS, thank God I was finally able to get rid of it!
O.T. Why is it that the Chicago Police Memorial doesn't list its officers or board such as all other Memorial Foundations? The only person listed is Honorary Chairman Richard Daley. Is PC hiding behind Daley? And why is his girlfriend M.H. working for the Memorial? Another salary we are paying. Geesh. P.C. has hired all his friends to work on our dime, just like he did when he was on this job. This is just too much. Daley should ask for an accounting of an organization that is pimping his name. I'm pretty disgusted by it all.
Here's the Iowa and Hamlin story from the compilation of news sites "Breaking News"
Federal agents and Chicago police on Tuesday cordoned off a house on the West Side where they captured a fugitive wanted in an Atlanta murder, according to the U.S. Marshals Service.
Members of the Marshals' Great Lakes Fugitive Task Force were working on an Atlanta murder warrant for Shakir Cole when they spotted him an a car and chased him to a house near the intersection of Chicago and Hamlin Avenues, said Geoff Shank, Chief Inspector of the task force.
After being barricaded in the house, Cole was in custody as of about 8:30 p.m. Agents already had a suspected accomplice in custody, Shank said. Additional details on the arrests were not immediately available.
Cole is wanted in a 2006 murder in Atlanta, and marshals tracked him to Chicago recently.
I've got it. The perfect compromise. No M-4's, but we'll all be allowed to carry Desert Eagles - the most powerful handgun in the world. It's got far better accuracy than our current peashooters. And, it'll put such enormous holes in shitheads that noone will be able to tell if we shot ol' boy in the chest or the back. Yeah, Desert Eagles. That's the ticket.
Oh SNAP! SCC wrong again. WTF!!!
As far as the M$ goes, after doing research, I have no desire to carry it. They are not dependable unless cleaned and lubed on an almost daily basis. I can almost bet my future retirement earnings with no regrets that no one will be cleaning these rifles with any regularity. Even the front line trops want nothing to do with them. This is interesting reading:
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-usas-m4-carbine-controversy-03289/
Also the rounds have a tendency to shatter on impact and don't penetrate that deeply. I think I will wait until another choice is available. I realize that with CPD that might be a while but for now Iwill rely on my trusty sidearm.
anonymous said...
ABC news puts the most ignorant ghetto rat on the air to just say whatever. If the news is going to "interview" these goofs they could at least ask some questions to show the world that they are just making shit up.
9/16/2008 07:04:00 PM
With new policy at IPRA and at News Affairs there is NO public word on any of these shootings forthcoming so the only story being told publicly is the assholes or whatever lying dogs get in front of a camera.
In the name of IPRA the assholes are winning the war of the media.
They can talk publicly any time they want. We cannot.
Maybe the patrol shotgun is the ticket. Full stock, no pistol grip , you need to shoulder it to hit the target. Use the OO buckshot reduced recoil 9 ball load. (The standard 12 ball load would recoil in excess.) Anyone can shoot it. Color code the rounds, red for buckshot and green for slugs. Look at LAPD, they have the short barrel Remington 870. Works great in the city of angels, why not here ? Law enforcement agancy is allowed to have less than 18" barrel, very handy in the patrol car . Failing that, why not ramp up your pistol craft...get new magazines if you need them. Replace those dead night sights, and go to the range a little more. Make the best of that sidearm, and most of all stay safe.
Oh No! Say it isnt so! Fuck you, you piece of shit ghetto motherfucker. God bless all officers involved.
I wasn't aware that Chicago is in a desert environment. The AR-type rifles are plenty reliable outside of the sandpit. They need to be cleaned and maintained after they are fired, but they won't fall apart riding around in your cars.
I prefer the LRWC M6A2, but that's just me.
ECS
http://theturkeyfootbrand.blogspot.com/
I miss chicago, but atleast my PD now allows us to carry M4s in the vehicle...they have a program where officers are allowed to purchase their own M4 (they are also available for check in/out from supply) and the department installed electronic side-saddle M4/870 racks in all cars. Also officers are allowed to have their own personal combat "kit" in the vehicle (I use a plate carrier, just in case) with extra ammo for 223 and handguns. We're west of chicago, but more and more goes down because of shitheads moving out of there. Maybe your FOP should bring up personal purchase as a means of getting these much needed tools into your hands? Its a bit pricey, but I considered how much my life was worth if I were to ever need it...far more than the 2500 I spent. Be safe out there, and watch your backs, because no one else is out there for us.
You'll never see M4's at the District level, just like you're not going to see hundreds of Tahoes for the beat guys. It's just not going to happen. We STILL don't have a radio battery that holds an 8 hour charge or a pool car available.
ALso, nice to see the Suburban teachers were going to strike after being without a contract for 2 weeks. HA HA HA HA We're on 15 months already and it's pretty clear we are getting next to nothing and not getting it anytime soon!
Anyone who votes for an Illinois Democrat is a fucking moron.
to 6:43pm ok watched the video, laughed my ass off it was great.
thanks
9/16/2008 09:23:00 PM
As far as the M[4] goes, after doing research, I have no desire to carry it. They are not dependable unless cleaned...
--Well, as far as the M4 (and other variants) goes, after CARRYING THE WEAPON IN TWO WARS and TEN YEARS IN THE ARMY, I have a great desire to carry it. It is the finest light weapon system in the world today, if properly maintained (like any other weapon, maintenance is crucial). Your research should have included talking to a few combat vets who would tell you the real facts.
You want funny reverend shit? No politics involved. Check THIS out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bE5141tc8Q
just a question, anybody? WHEN was the last time shotguns were cleaned, oiled, maintained AND by whom...a few years back when i worked in an area, saw a rack of them collecting dust and was told there was NO cleaning supplies for them...that the supplies were taken out of the budget, just like at all the gun ranges where we cannot even clean our own guns after qualifying.
Off topic, but related. The Cook County State's Attorney has announced that they will NOT file any criminal charges against the officers involved in a fatal police shooting in 2005 near 27th and Kedzie. They said an expert witness examined the evidence, and backed up the officers version of how tire marks were left on one of the officers pants. Numerous officers testified before the grand jury and all told the same story. A forensic expert at the Cook County morgue told the state that the bullet hole in the offenders back was most likely a ricochet, backing up the story of the officer who said he fired from the front of the car. Scumbag civil attorney Terry Ekl said the state caved under pressure from the city, and that it is the worst case of police misconduct he has seen in thirty years. He says his tire expert, who was paid for his opinion by Ekl, is right. To review; the offender was here illegally, driving drunk, driving without proper plates, driving without insurance, driving without a license, caused several accidents, fled from marked police cars, and tried to run over an officer. May Terry Ekl burn in hell some day. Chalk one up for the good guys.
prayers to St. Michael that the coppers are ok...good job offices..! remember boys and girls..WE are all we have out there..! be safe..back each other up..! The studdering midget and the PPO Sup dont give a fuck about us.
One very easy and cheap way to help insure that your semi auto works first time every time is to replace the magazine springs and recoil rod spring every five years
Calling the manufacturer and giving him a credit card number will ensure delivery at your home for about $25 ( three mag springs and one recoil rod spring)
A word to the wise
i believe the shots fired in 011 was at a US Marshall
Dear Mr> "9/16/2008 09:23:00 PM
As far as the M[4] goes, after doing research, I have no desire to carry it. They are not dependable unless cleaned..."
they are reliable as long as you clean them after you shoot them and lube them properly..........kinda like your drawers dont smell like shit as long as your wife washes them for you.
If you dont want it because ur two lazy to clean it do yourself a favor and retire before you get hurt out there
How can we keep paying these shitheads all this big "lotto" money if the city is so broke?
Next time the jury awards some big bucks to an "alter boy's" family, the Mayor needs to say "Sorry, but we can't pay you. We're broke....Coo Coo".
we have alleged offenders and alleged victims, now we can add "alleged witness" to the list. hear that channel 7?
For those who attended the new FOP meeting. Did anyone catch what jagbag hillard is up to? Well let me tell you. He works for this company called Taser or www.taser.com. According to Mr.Doahue he stated that Hillard is in the door with the new superintendent trying to push guess what? Blue tooth cameras on your person, which will record everything. He said that it will be just like your bluetooth on your ear and will record you and everything you do. Also it has audio which will record up to 30 hours. Also I wanted to let people know that another good guy Greg Bella stated that we "DO NOT NEED TO GIVE OUR DNA TO ANYONE!!!!!" and if this does happen call the FOP and they will send out a lawyer. So please dont take the test.
ABC news puts the most ignorant ghetto rat on the air to just say whatever. If the news is going to "interview" these goofs they could at least ask some questions to show the world that they are just making shit up.
9/16/2008 07:04:00 PM
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yea .. gotta love the media.
ABC interviewing/showing clips of ignorant ghetto punks saying "he wasn't armed" "he was innocent" "he was shot in the back".
Don't do ABC any favors.
.....if properly maintained (like any other weapon, maintenance is crucial). Your research should have included talking to a few combat vets who would tell you the real facts.
9/16/2008 11:10:00 PM
Thats the point. How well are the inside of the cars taken care of everyday? What about radios? Or any other thing that is issued? Who will be responsible for cleaning and caring for the weapons? I would go along with it if we were allowed to own the weapon or have it issued to individuals and then it was on us to take care of it. I just have a problem having that variable being out of my hands. Sure I could break the weapon down at every start of the tour but how often do you have that luxury to examine every single piece of equipment that you will use during the tour and how long will it take?
Elm Creek Smith said...
I wasn't aware that Chicago is in a desert environment....
Not sandy but it sure is dirty. You would not believe some of the things you will find in a squad car. In the olden days, shotguns used to get mounted on the dash. More often than not, the barrel got used as a ashtray and garbage can. This made squad cars a target for getting broken into and the shotguns were getting stolen. Then they were mounted in the trunks. That defeated the purpose of having them available in the cars for quick deployment. How many remember the old box Crown Vics that had trunk alarms?
All my brothers and sisters in blue stay safe!
OT a bit........
Driving home from work yesterday came upon a battery in progress...bunch of gangbangers by an el-stop.
Basically beating the tar out of each other. I was stopped at the light--debated calling it in but figured I'd see what happened.
Sure enough, after some mutual battering all got up off the ground, and walked together to a restaurant.
While I sat there I contemplated the situation....why call it in and have coppers come flying over when we really don't give a shit what they do to each other?
Plus I was by myself and figured they all very easily could have turned on me...so before you go flying to the bullshit, give them time to settle it amongst themselves...
Media wants to create the real wild west. They will take a french poodle and make a dangerous rottweiler out of it, because it has teeth.
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I'm a French poodle and I would like to know how I can become a rottweiler!
O.T.--- Chalkie made a visit to 009 last night, nice one too!! That along with another nailed at 47 and Wood sounded like he was on his way out as well. Put that together with the 20 or so shots fired calls, but no, we're not out gunned J- Pussy!! Thanks--just another insignificant copper.
Scum times strikes again----"cops kill teen in traffic stop"
journalism integrity strikes again, the sad thing is it is not a shock and it doesn't effect me one way or the other, but I am sick of my family having to read this shit and defend the police at their place of work, school, etc...Of couse being family they will do it to the end. but the burden isn't theirs to carry. It is time to start striking back. These pukes at the scum times aren't squeaky clean, and someone knows something, time to start an investigation, don't worry they won't catch on because they are not investigators anymore, only rag writers.
Anonymous said...
I've got it. The perfect compromise. No M-4's, but we'll all be allowed to carry Desert Eagles - the most powerful handgun in the world. It's got far better accuracy than our current peashooters. And, it'll put such enormous holes in shitheads that noone will be able to tell if we shot ol' boy in the chest or the back. Yeah, Desert Eagles. That's the ticket.
9/16/2008 09:16:00 PM
The Desert Eagle in .50AE is not the most powerful handgun in the world.God,you are probably a dick too,lord help us.
dead alterboy on camera shooting someone minutes before police shoot him....
He never had a gun, he wasn't that type a boy...
3rd watch captain skinhead was out there shouting out conflicting commands until Mike Sheilds got there. I did not know he could suck-up so well.
9/16/2008 08:07:00 PM
Mike Shields was in charge?
Holy Fuck.
"And the worst part of it is there are witnesses that say the poor victim wasn't armed when the poleeses done murdered that boy."
Yeah that Drop Rifle I carry in my Pants really tears up the BVDS, thank God I was finally able to get rid of it!
9/16/2008 08:16:00 PM
I had that same exact problem before so I switched from drop rifles to drop mac-10's. They are much easier on the cargo pants and the fruit of the looms'.
When daley uttered those two syllables, "coo-koo", it was the first time he's ever spoken what's really on his mind.
Mayor 'coo-koo'.
I see the postings about weapon maint. and yes thats the case with pool weapons, they get shitty because no one takes care of them since theres no sense of ownership. Thats why allowing officers to get their own is a good idea. Put it on a buyback program and pay like 20 bucks back a paycheck, thats what we do. Just a thought...even though they cant get new cars...
Off topic but seen this on the web and thought it was something all of us should see. Was the officer wrong...yes, but is this a place most of us been...yes! be carefull out there they are all looking for a payday!
www.liveleak.com/view?i=72c_1221628704
Graet job to all the officers God bless all of you! (OT), why years ago did ronnie huberman quit after 5 years on the job, and they terry hillard sought him out hired boy wonder back and made him a deputy? Guess we have hillard to blame for "boy wonder"! ronnie another one with no skills but he knows how to ship our millions out to the contractors. The big question who gets the "donations?"
Maybe the patrol shotgun is the ticket. Full stock, no pistol grip , you need to shoulder it to hit the target. Use the OO buckshot reduced recoil 9 ball load. (The standard 12 ball load would recoil in excess.) Anyone can shoot it. Color code the rounds, red for buckshot and green for slugs. Look at LAPD, they have the short barrel Remington 870. Works great in the city of angels, why not here ? Law enforcement agancy is allowed to have less than 18" barrel, very handy in the patrol car . Failing that, why not ramp up your pistol craft...get new magazines if you need them. Replace those dead night sights, and go to the range a little more."
AT LAST! This is, by far, one of the most intelligent posts I have ever read here regarding heavy weapons carry by CPD Officers.
Obviously, not everyone is going to carry the big guns. Some of you are just too out of shape to do the power test. Either get in shape, or deal with it and start doing some serious practice with whatever your sidearm of choice is.
Protective cover and shot placement win gun battles...and a little prayer. God bless all, and stay safe! I STILL LOVE THIS JOB!
Boy that captain pineapple/bubble head is something else.
While I sat there I contemplated the situation....why call it in and have coppers come flying over when we really don't give a shit what they do to each other?
Plus I was by myself and figured they all very easily could have turned on me...so before you go flying to the bullshit, give them time to settle it amongst themselves...
9/17/2008 07:46:00 AM
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F*ck em all. Let them kill each other. You did the right thing.
While I sat there I contemplated the situation....why call it in and have coppers come flying over when we really don't give a shit what they do to each other?
Plus I was by myself and figured they all very easily could have turned on me...so before you go flying to the bullshit, give them time to settle it amongst themselves...
9/17/2008 07:46:00 AM
i've seen plenty battery in progresses off duty and all i did was watch. it's not worth calling it in.
When the shit hits the fan I don't care how fat or out of shape a cop is as long as he can shoot and cover my ass.
Also the rounds have a tendency to shatter on impact and don't penetrate that deeply. I think I will wait until another choice is available. I realize that with CPD that might be a while but for now Iwill rely on my trusty sidearm.
9/16/2008 09:23:00 PM
Uh, they work just fine in the desert. Unless you're a total lazy ass and never clean it, you won't have a problem.
One very easy and cheap way to help insure that your semi auto works first time every time is to replace the magazine springs and recoil rod spring every five years
Calling the manufacturer and giving him a credit card number will ensure delivery at your home for about $25 ( three mag springs and one recoil rod spring)
A word to the wise
9/17/2008 12:54:00 AM
And, your words are wise. Next time in HQ, look for Officer Tucker's star in the display case. He was a hero killed in the line of duty in the late 60's. His automatic jammed for an unknown reason and the bank robber had enough time to shoot and kill Officer Tucker before Officer Tucker could clear his firearm.
Do not allow this hero's death to have been in vain. Check your automatics regularly. Put the odds in your favor. Any mechanical device can fail, but regular attention and maintenance can reduce the risk. Make sure the magazine (clip) spring and the recoil rod spring are not fatigued, make sure the clip does not have ear damage, and make sure your firearm is clean. A fatigued spring(s), a damaged clip, or grime and dirt, can all cause a firearm to fail, and cause you to fail at saving your life and the lives of others.
As said in the previous post, change the springs and clip at least every 5 years, or sooner as needed.
And remember, whenever a clip is ejected and it hits another object or the ground, it has the possibility of sustaining damage.
Be wise, Stay safe.
The shots fired at/by the police in 011... was anyone there? How long did it take SWAT to show up once it was made a 'job'? Any word on how it went down and the final outcome?
12 GUAGE REMINGTON 870 WITH CUT-DOWN 14 INCH BARREL, LASER SIGHTS, AND FOLDING STOCK, ABOUT 500 BUCKS NEW, LOOK ON POOKIES FACE WHEN IT'S COCKED AND POINTED AT HIM - PRICELESS !!!
"Uh, they work just fine in the desert. Unless you're a total lazy ass and never clean it, you won't have a problem.
9/18/2008 01:33:00 PM"
You don't pay attention too good, do you?
Uh, they work just fine in the desert. Unless you're a total lazy ass and never clean it, you won't have a problem.
9/18/2008 01:33:00 PM
You obviously don't work for the CPD. They are not ours to maintain. They will be signed out at the beginning of the tour 3 times a day. How many cleaning kits are going to be provided to accomplish this? Will we be allowed down time before hitting the streets to make sure that they are properly cleaned and lubed? Who is going to provide records showing that the proper cleaning has been done? How do we know what was done to the weapon on the shift prior to it being issued to us? If I am going to trust my life on a weapon, I damn well want to know that it is in perfect working order but for the CPD, that is a fantasy. The shotguns mounted in the station have never been cleaned or maintained ever as far as a I know. I'm worried that the same will happen to the M4's.
http://www.defensivecarry.com/documents/officer.pdf
You don't pay attention too good, do you?
9/18/2008 09:30:00 PM
Yes, I do. The post stated that, "They are not dependable unless cleaned and lubed on an almost daily basis. I can almost bet my future retirement earnings with no regrets that no one will be cleaning these rifles with any regularity. Even the front line trops want nothing to do with them."
Not true. I carried one in the desert and maintained it. They work just fine.
"You obviously don't work for the CPD."
Yes, I do. And I stand by what I said. I was responding to the claim that the weapon system was somehow flawed and unpopular with the troops. It's not. I made no claim as to how or by whom the weapon would be maintained.
"I think I will wait until another choice is available."
If you think waiting for a weapon that you can use dirty will come along, keep waiting.
"If you think waiting for a weapon that you can use dirty will come along, keep waiting.
9/19/2008 07:33:00 AM"
It's hard to believe that the Keesing Bandit didn't jump all over this one.
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